Re: [geo] Trump, Energy and Climate

> encouraging use of farm land for energy and CDR as a second competing > market for food should help all farmers and ag states - as well as the > climate.* > > * There are probably other “geo” examples in the disaggregated analysis > that Fred recommends.* > > *Ron* &

Re: [geo] Trump, Energy and Climate

This is an interesting article that breaks down the state by state results by industry sector in a way that suggests a more granular rethink of climate change policy is needed than I think your article suggests. Not being negative, just suggesting that success might require rebuilding climate

Re: [geo] White Arctic vs. Blue Arctic: A case study of diverging stakeholder responses to environmental change

An important but dangerous line of thought, as it implies questions like "Green Amazon v. Amber Amazon": rain forest v. savannah? On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 3:42 AM, Andrew Lockley wrote: > Attached > > Earth’s Future > White Arctic vs. Blue Arctic: A case study of

[geo] Fwd: solar cell captures CO2 and sunlight, produces burnable fuel (Science, July 29)

Thoughts? I'm having a difficult time evaluating significance of this. https://news.uic.edu/breakthrough-solar-cell-captures-co2-and-sunlight-produces-burnable-fuel Researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago have engineered a potentially game-changing solar cell that cheaply and

Re: [geo] CIA Director Brennan Speaks at the Council on Foreign Relations on geoengineering

oxide removal reduces the motivation to deploy solar > geoengineering. > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 07:52 Fred Zimmerman <geoengineerin...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> What I find interesting about this is that it had seemed to me that this >> community >> had

Re: [geo] CIA Director Brennan Speaks at the Council on Foreign Relations on geoengineering

What I find interesting about this is that it had seemed to me that this community had largely moved on to CDR & especially BECCS as the preferred mechanism, most people accepting David Keith's view of SAI as a last-ditch option for slowing the rate of change. Do others agree with my formulation?

Re: [geo] Special Message : Geoengineering 2015 Annual Review

May I ask the group members each to nominate a top 5? (or 3, or 1, or 10, whatever you like?) On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Ken Caldeira wrote: > Andrew, > > I would add Kwiatkowski et al. (ERL, 2015) which performed the first > simulations of effects of ocean

Re: [geo] Climate scientists ponder spraying diamond dust in the sky to cool planet : Nature News & Comment

What could possibly go wrong: how would this plan prevent enterprising entrepreneurs from "harvesting" the atmospheric diamond dust and repurposing it for "bling" or industrial applications? ᐧ On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Andrew Lockley wrote: > >

Re: [geo] Creating corals that can survive climate change (off topic?)

It becomes more problematic if we think about the precedent of selecting for super resilient individuals of every species ... ᐧ On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Greg Rau wrote: > Thinly disguised GMO? How did this evade ETC's and CBD's super sensitive > radar? > Greg > > >

Re: [geo] Evidence for deep-ocean frozen methane release VERY bad news?

ease could reach the > gigaton per annum level, raising global concentration very rapidly and > kiboshing efforts to curb global warming. > > What to do? Try cooling the Arctic while developing methods to suppress > methane, e.g. diatom food and nutrients for methanotrophs. > > C

[geo] space based observations & geoengineering

, they can detect a launch faster than ever, more accurately identify the missile type, ... Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA *PageKicker <http://www.pagekicker.com/> -- real-time, customized, mobile, social deep contentNimble Books LLC -- innovative, idiosyncratic independent pub

[geo] Russia now requiring scientists to vet articles with FSB - climate/geo impact?

or climate/geo research, not a good omen. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA *PageKicker <http://www.pagekicker.com/> -- real-time, customized, mobile, social deep contentNimble Books LLC -- innovative, idiosyncratic independent publisher on military, naval, and politics* ᐧ -- You r

Re: [geo] Evidence for deep-ocean frozen methane release VERY bad news?

Worrisome but as with all these bubble studies the data is sparse relative to the area covered so difficult to make any firm conclusions. A major large area study is needed: lots of sensors or a new remote sensing optoelectronic seismological or sonar technique exploiting bubble phenomenology.

Re: [geo] Economic impacts from thawing permafrost

$43T in damages seems like a lot to me, especially if spread over a century or the period 2015-2100. Global GDP is about $78T. I don't have access to the article, so can't comment in detail, but if I did I would be trying to figure out what they imply is $T/degC/year. While a cost of a few

Re: [geo] (must read) Geoengineering as a design problem

I ran this by my pal Pete Jones who is an expert on system design among other things (redesignresearch.com) and here is what he had to say: > > Seems to me like a provocation to consider a large-scale engineering > design approach to analysis, identification of points to induce effects, > and to

Re: [geo] A novel sub-seabed CO2 release experiment informing monitoring and impact assessment for geological carbon storage

your criticism of the paper is not fair. Also, in the context of the question being asked, a 37 day test was an entirely reasonable first attempt at addressing the question. Chris. On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 9:27:43 PM UTC+1, Fred Zimmerman wrote: I don't see where this paper addresses my

Re: [geo] Coral bleaching under unconventional scenarios of climate warming and ocean acidification - NCC

For skimmers: The conclusions drawn from this body of work, which applied widely used algorithms to estimate coral bleaching8 , are that we must either accept that the loss of a large percentage of the world’s coral reefs is inevitable, or consider technological solutions to buy those reefs time

Re: [geo] Geo-Engineering the Anthropocene

An interesting piece indeed that would be more useful if it offered proposals as well as raising questions. One gets the impression that the author's idea of appropriate visuality would be a 24/7 loop of the destruction of the global environment by fossil fuels. But it's hard to see how such a

Re: [geo] Mineral protection of soil carbon counteracted by root exudates : Nature Climate Change

Does this also mean bad news in that 1) terrestrial biotic sequestration may be less effective than believed 2) this may affect crop productivity? Also, does the article offer any numbers around the degree of soil loss and whether this is across all latitudes? On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:08 AM,

Re: [geo] Impacts of ocean albedo alteration on Arctic sea ice restoration and Northern Hemisphere climate - ERL

Mark, I don't mean to be difficult, but I think the answer to this question is plainly no and is likely to remain that way until such there is such time as there is an unambiguous, impossible to rationalize away, real-time climate catastrophe. This thread is talking about a large quasi-industrial

Re: [geo] Stratospheric aerosol geoengineering - Robock

I think the most important implication of all findings of anticipated changes in precipitation as a result of SRM -- of whatever degree or direction -- is that they dramatically raise the bar for the level of confidence (and therefore, amount of research) that would be needed to achieve wide

Re: [geo] Robock interview in Bull. Atom. Sci.

I think people are concerned about conflict from geoengineering but I don't think they are any more concerned about nuclear war risks from geoengineering than from any other cause of conflict and probably much less so. I would agree that preventing new causes of conflict is a credible reason for

Re: [geo] Robock interview in Bull. Atom. Sci.

weapons. -Jamais On Apr 17, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Fred Zimmerman geoengineerin...@gmail.com wrote: I think people are concerned about conflict from geoengineering but I don't think they are any more concerned about nuclear war risks from geoengineering than from any other cause of conflict

Re: [geo] Dilution limits dissolved organic carbon utilization in the deep ocean

Isn't this also relevant to sequestration strategies? It sounds as if increased concentrations could create different results than currently anticipated. ᐧ On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com wrote: Poster's note : of interest to OIF researchers

Re: [geo] Fwd: When Global Catastrophes Collide: The Climate Engineering Double Catastrophe | Scientific American

means (Climate Intervention?) would seem our first priority for evaluation, ahead of strategies for somehow becoming resilient to alternative outcomes. Greg -- *From:* Fred Zimmerman geoengineerin...@gmail.com *To:* Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com

Re: [geo] Fwd: When Global Catastrophes Collide: The Climate Engineering Double Catastrophe | Scientific American

The link in Google Scholar to the PDF is wrong -- it is correct here at Google Books https://books.google.com/books?id=4M6AAgAAQBAJlpg=PP1ots=xkwc1eUYi9dq=piers%20blaikielrpg=PP1#v=onepageq=piers%20blaikief=false On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Fred Zimmerman geoengineerin...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [geo] Fwd: When Global Catastrophes Collide: The Climate Engineering Double Catastrophe | Scientific American

There is a related Comment in a recent issue of Nature. If I may summarize: the most cost-effective form of adaptation to climate change catastrophes (whether single or multiple) is to improve resilience of vulnerable individuals populations in every dimension -- health, education, sanitation,

Re: [geo] Survivable IPCC projections are based on science fiction - the reality is much worse - The Ecologist

The article is quite right in my estimation that the most likely outcome based on current trends is 500+ ppm and RCP 8.5. Where it is exaggerated is in arguing that the lowest RCP scenario 2.6 is the only one that is survivable or that exceeding it is equated to the survival of human

Re: [geo] Chill factor at 'cia' weather query | Daily Mail Online and BBC interview

Fascinating couple of pages about the bromine bomb in Fleming FIXING THE SKY https://books.google.com/books?id=zmdBon09PY0Clpg=PA220ots=WFitxrgPu2dq=bromine%20bombpg=PA220#v=onepageq=bromine%20bombf=false ᐧ On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Adrian Tuck dr.adrian.t...@sciencespectrum.co.uk wrote:

Re: [geo] Chill factor at 'cia' weather query | Daily Mail Online and BBC interview

I am less concerned about outcomes for the major parties and their zones in the scenario you describe than for the risk of incidental catastrophe for largely uninvolved parties in particularly vulnerable areas like sub-Saharan Africa. I think this is the concern Cush was hinting at in his

Re: [geo] The Risks of Climate Engineering - NYTimes.com Hamilton

Hi -- I agree with this skeptical assessment of certainty, especially with regard to impacts on regional and subregional climates and biomes critical to human life society, but as many on this list argue, the issue i choosing between a) BAU emissions with high confidence of major impacts 3-5C

Re: [geo] A closer look at the flawed studies behind policies used to promote 'low-carbon' biofuels | University of Michigan News

trees down and bury them and do that over and over again every 10-20 years, than to convert the land to a carbon-dense biome? That gives you ongoing carbon removal, not just a one-time effect. On Thu Feb 12 2015 at 8:16:40 AM Fred Zimmerman geoengineerin...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of weeks

Re: [geo] NRC geoengineering report: Climate hacking is dangerous and barking mad. Pierrehumbert. Slate

Worth noting perhaps that the NAS has done careful studies of climate impacts http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12877 so one response to the limitations of the climate intervention study is to suggest that the climate stabilization/impacts report be read together with the climate

Re: [geo] Re: Washington Post op ed

Do you even need a proposed mechanism? From what I recall, both models and observations struggle at the poles, and we know that we don't want to go forward with SAI without a strong understanding of behavior at the poles. Maybe we should be asking what will we need to do to improve models and

Re: [geo] Washington Post op ed

Well, yes, but despite the Cold War era fears, nuclear war has not yet happened in 70 years, not just because of Andrew's common interest argument, but because politicians and military men apparently reached the conclusion that nuclear bombs were an ineffective way of coercing other nations to do

[geo] Nature article on biochars scarcely mentions CDR

?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews I am interested in thoughts from our biochars enthusiasts. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA a fox, not a hedgehog -- Isaiah Berlin http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Fox_Hedgehog.html ᐧ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [geo] Keystone pipeline veto importance?

The McGlade paper is indeed very important and well worth reading since it works backwards from the 2-degree target to provide what amounts to a regional hit list for declaring carbon resources unburnable (see Table 1 in the paper). Most of the Canadian oil and gas resources are found to be

[geo] NASA ROSES RFP - topics workshops

methods of bringing together members of the scientific communities relevant to NASA, such as online discussion forums and web-based collaboration portals, especially in support of a traditional event. Proposals for multiple related events should be well justified. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan

[geo] policy Qs re CDR-ATM

obstacles rather than passive barriers such as lack of interest] * What countries are the leaders in CDR research, development, investment, and technologies? I have my own ideas about the answers but am looking for sanity check. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA a fox, not a hedgehog -- Isaiah

Re: [geo] GM biogeoengineering risks

I am writing up a brief precis of this topic (GMO for CDR) but as I read through this thread I'm not seeing any citations to journal articles. Can someone provide me with citations to a few key papers? ᐧ On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Andrew Lockley andrew.lock...@gmail.com wrote: I'm very

Re: [geo] Abstract: Antarctic Pumpdown---a New Geoengineering Concept for Capturing and Storing Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide (2014 AGU Fall Meeting)

Prof. Beget -- 1) can you please explain the scale of operations that would be required to achieve climatically significant reductions? 2) is there a termination scenario where SRM/CDR efforts including MEA are abruptly terminated (say, because of political disorder), warming accelerates, the

Re: [geo] Re: GM biogeoengineering risks

/1m9VXozADC0IIE6mYx5NsnJLrUvF_fWJN_GyigCzDLn0/pub * On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Fred Zimmerman geoengineerin...@gmail.com wrote: In the spirit of making this discussion more realistic with regard to broader consumption, let me put the obvious argument on the table, which

Re: [geo] Why is geoengineering so tempting? Doda | Grantham Research Institute on climate change and the environment

ᐧ The finding in the last sentence is important especially given that the impacts of climate change are likely to be felt most heavily by developing countries. That's an important aspect of the equity arguments around geoengineering that is not perhaps given enough weight in ethical discussions

Re: [geo] Open : A review of ocean color remote sensing methods and statistical techniques for the detection, mapping and analysis of phytoplankton blooms in coastal and open oceans

Many interesting developments in here. 1) We're getting better at real time observation of algal blooms thanks to multi sensor multi band and multi platform devices (ARGO + satellite is a potent combination) but not there yet. 2) Of particular note for the geoengineering community is the

Re: [geo] 6 commercially viable ways to remove CO2 - Schuiling

, Olaf Schuiling *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com [mailto: geoengineering@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fred Zimmerman *Sent:* woensdag 1 oktober 2014 18:58 *To:* Andrew Lockley *Cc:* geoengineering *Subject:* Re: [geo] 6 commercially viable ways to remove CO2 - Schuiling Title

[geo] no geoengineering awardees in Climate CoLab

http://climatecolab.org/web/guest/plans/-/plans/contestId/1300209 Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA a fox, not a hedgehog -- Isaiah Berlin ᐧ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Fwd: [geo] Open : A review of ocean color remote sensing methods and statistical techniques for the detection, mapping and analysis of phytoplankton blooms in coastal and open oceans

Many interesting developments in here. 1) We're getting better at real time observation of algal blooms thanks to multi sensor multi band and multi platform devices (ARGO + satellite is a potent combination) but not there yet. 2) Of particular note for the geoengineering community is the

[geo] Fwd: Researchers paint a new picture of carbon in land ecosystems

Does this mean that carbon sequestration by preservation and afforestation in boreal forests has more bang for the buck than in tropical forests? Also, does this mean that there is an unexpected benefit of SRM influence on hydrological system--longer carbon residence times? Fred *Researchers

Re: [geo] Re: what's new on cost estimates for DAC CDR?

18:37, Rau, Greg r...@llnl.gov wrote: What qualifies as DAC CDR? Greg -- *From:* geoengineering@googlegroups.com [geoengineering@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Fred Zimmerman [geoengineerin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, August 29, 2014 7:02 PM *To:* Mark

Re: [geo] Re: what's new on cost estimates for DAC CDR?

into a table of DAC CDR cost estimates which we could all view. Best, Charlie On Monday, August 25, 2014 10:17:58 PM UTC-7, Fred Zimmerman wrote: Hi -- I am updating a literature review on cost estimates for DAC CDR and I am wondering what has changed both empirically and analytically since

[geo] programmatic summary of David Keith article on air-liquid contractor

. * Finally, we note that the fourfold discrepancy between our estimate of contactor cost and that in the recent APS DAC report is due to fundamentally different design choices, insufficient optimization in the APS design and our choice of lower-cost contactor internals. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan

[geo] what's new on cost estimates for DAC CDR?

Hi -- I am updating a literature review on cost estimates for DAC CDR and I am wondering what has changed both empirically and analytically since the flurry of papers in 2011-2013 with APS, House, Keith, Lackner et al. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA a fox, not a hedgehog -- Isaiah

[geo] ice sheets as a source of highly reactive nanoparticulate iron

, and are similarly expected to increase in a warming climate with enhanced melting. Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA a fox, not a hedgehog -- Isaiah Berlin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [geo] Ocean waves influence sea ice extent

Why not try to increase the duration and intensity of polar storms? We've already got a good start on that with the massive ongoing global effort to increase the intensity and frequency of extreme weather events. Seriously, it baffles me that sometimes it seems that the response here to every

[geo] HAARP is no more

http://www.adn.com/2014/05/14/3470442/air-force-prepares-to-dismantle.html?sp=/99/100/ihp=1 Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA a fox, not a hedgehog -- Isaiah Berlin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [geo] Re: technical potential of ocean bioenergy?

the potential of the marine environment as a fuel/food/feed/fertilizer/freshwater/polymer (etc.) source. Best, Michael On Monday, April 21, 2014 6:41:06 AM UTC-7, Fred Zimmerman wrote: I have just been skimming through the IPCC AR5 appendix on bioenergy and I see helpful estimates

[geo] technical potential of ocean bioenergy?

I have just been skimming through the IPCC AR5 appendix on bioenergy and I see helpful estimates of technical bioenergy potential for land but don't see any estimates of technical potential for marine bioenergy -- are there any good papers on that topic? Fred Fred Zimmerman Ann Arbor, Michigan

Re: [geo] Open access paper on BECS in Climatic Change (Blanford et al 2014)

If I remember correctly, terrestrial primary productivity is greater than oceanic primary productivity. So isn't it a mistake also to regard the oceans as a sort of reserve larder of biocapacity simply because they are larger in area/volume than the terrestrial biosphere? On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at

Re: [geo] Detecting geoengineering effects

and be detected. I remember hearing David Keith express high confidence that we would be able to detect SRM, this seems to take a different view. Thoughts? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http

Re: [geo] Iron Limitation Modulates Ocean Acidification Effects on Southern Ocean Phytoplankton Communities

How much acidification is required to affect npp? On Nov 28, 2013 4:04 PM, Ken Caldeira kcalde...@carnegiescience.edu wrote: Of course, even under rather extreme assumption, changes in planktonic productivity can do little to slow the rising tide of ocean acidification. (see Cao and Caldeira,

Re: [geo] [off-topic] Romm post criticizing allowable CO2 emissions budget concept

. There is a value to driving up the scarcity, but a countervailing risk that the fossil fuel assets will become less valuable due to technological innovation or social change. Burn em or lose em (fuels and $$, respectively). Surely very big numbers. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together

Re: [geo] [off-topic] Romm post criticizing allowable CO2 emissions budget concept

/journal/v458/n7242/extref/nature08017-s1.pdf ) It's way too late to worry about whether the carbon emissions budget is a useful framing device. the simple message is we're going to blow way past our budget. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering

Re: [geo] The National Academies Contemplate Geoengineering - GeoSpace - AGU Blogosphere

amounts of energy and manpower to operate – yet the committee asked thoughtful follow-up questions. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 5:31 AM

[geo] system modeling of all geoengineering approaches (SRM and CDR)

for years to deployment and RF per year and cost per unit of RF has anyone done an exercise modeling the optimum mix across all methods/all flavors? if some methods/flavors are disapproved? if values are modified? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering

Re: [geo] proposed definition of geoengineering, suitable for use in an international legal context

My quick reactions: 0) A good definition overall. 1) I observe that discussions in this group and in political advocacy about geoengineering are spending a great deal of energy defining certain things in and out of geoengineering. I think it is something of a time sink. In the end the labels

Re: [geo] system modeling of all geoengineering approaches (SRM and CDR)

Well, maybe what that says is that we should simply consider SRM in the same context as mitigation and adaptation proposals. Everything winds up coming out of the same RF/carbon budget. We need a global systems solution anyway. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds

Re: [geo] 'Super grass' could vastly reduce agriculture emissions, say scientists

Hyped. N2O is a fraction of other RFs (0.18 w/m2 from 1750-2000 per Hansen 2005) and the proposed expansion a) is admittedly (!) a monoculture (!) strategy and b) only affects a fraction of the agriculture N2O. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering

Re: [geo] OIF albedo data - can you help?

tell you that the bloom albedo value necessary for significant radiative forcing too great to be plausible, which would save you the trouble of doing imagery analysis. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http

Re: [geo] New WMO Report on Weather Mod Plus Geoengineering

that numerous independent academy-level review boards have drawn every decade or so over the last sixty years, namely, that the efficacy of activities intended to modify weather cannot be statistically demonstrated. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering

Re: [geo] OIF albedo data - can you help?

and on Thursdays! If this is not helpful you needn't send it through to the group--just thinking in response. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:57 AM

[geo] sperm whales and oif

at depth and excrete near the surface. Several other toothed whales do this, and some filter-feeding ones may do too. *Reference: *Proc Roy Soc B http://dx.doi.org/10.1098/rspb.2010.0863 *Image *by Cianchttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cianc/298211739/in/photostream/ --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering

[geo] reflections on summer school at Harvard

for climate change). Enough for the moment; too short on time to expound further and probably at the useful limit for email anyway. Please no one be offended by my paraphrase of your thoughts or words! Cordially, Fred Z. Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds

[geo] Fwd: industrial base for large artillery in SRM schemes

economy. Plus, this is defense procurement. All that says to me ... . Fred Zimmerman Research Scientist ISciences LLC +1.734-214-9810 (office) +1.734-531-6062 (home office) -- You received this message because you

Re: [geo] ESD - Carbon farming in hot, dry coastal areas: an option for climate change mitigation

... Essentially, we would be paying 42-63 EUR/tonne CO2 to push the CO2 X years into the future, where X is not that big a number (compared to oceanic or geologic sequestration). I don't see our descendants thanking us profusely for this particular effort, am I missing something? --- Fred Zimmerman

Re: [geo] ESD - Carbon farming in hot, dry coastal areas: an option for climate change mitigation

Do forests sequester carbon with the same physical security and long time span as the deep ocean or geologic structures? My impression from what I've read is that forests can come and go on centennial scales. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering

Re: [geo] What kind of observing system do we need in place to take maximal advantage of the next big volcano?

will be inescapably present in much larger quantities: drones, cellphones, autonomous floats divers, citizen observers, 3-D printers, wireless appliances, and on and on,. Scientists should be thinking about how to take advantage of these developments. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing

Re: [geo] Re: Oli Morton with Opinion Article on Nitrogen Geoengineering

order of life innovations like aerobic bacteria, viruses, etc. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Oliver Tickell oliver.tick...@kyoto2

Re: [geo] Re: The governonsense of climate engineering

and lay the groundwork for the major dispositive studies that will be undertaken at some point in the future when the frog feels the heat of the water a bit more acutely. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter

[geo] FB group: summer schools on climate geoengineering

For those interested in networking prior to the Harvard geoengineering session, or for those who have attended summer schools in the past or may attend in the future, Hollie Roberts at Harvard recommends this group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/214837068555382/ --- Fred Zimmerman

Re: [geo] Re: Oli Morton with Opinion Article on Nitrogen Geoengineering

solution. * I am not crazy about identified by the scientific elite, I would prefer the more objective and more accurate scientific method -- it's not the eliteness that gives the threat credibility, it's the method. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

geoengineering patent be reserved for large-scale methods? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mick West m...@mickwest.com wrote: It's not good

Re: [geo] Re: good list of geoengineering patents?

:31:49 UTC+1, Fred Zimmerman wrote: has anyone got a good list of major geoengineering patents? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 -- You received this message

[geo] good list of geoengineering patents?

has anyone got a good list of major geoengineering patents? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [geo] The importance of feldspar for ice nucleation

a complex story here of unconscious geoengineering that is not well observed much less well understood. Way too early to start shooting feldspar into the atmosphere! ;-) --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http

[geo] flashcard deck on The Science of Geoengineering

. (Roe 2012). Disadvantages of foo include P and Q. (Face of Bo 2012). Cheers, Fred --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 -- You received this message because you

Re: [geo] Making Science Public » Mitigation, adaptation, geoengineering: Patterns of discourse, patterns of mystery

would need much more granular data from much different set of sources to capture what is actually happening in near real time. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Sat

Re: [geo] Money

with a robust flexible and innovative response to climate change but do not wish to be pigeonholed as members of a geoengineering professional society. I --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http

Re: [geo] The Caldeira If you Sterilize the Ocean We'd Still Have Chicken McNuggets Hypothesis questioned by Ocean expert

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM, David Lewis jrandomwin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm one of those who tend to believe civilization can only go so far down a path of thoughtless interference with the planetary systems. I haven't tried to assemble anything like a case that might convince a

[geo] challenges synoptic view of discussion

the box: what human and technical systems can we put in place that will facilitate making good decisions about GE? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 -- You received

Re: [geo] NASA Ames meeting

at the margins but consumers and businesses start to balk as soon as the cost effect becomes significant. Even if ExxonMobil had never paid a climate skeptic a dime, we would still have an energy system in which fossil fuel emissions are dominant. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together

[geo] why GE? (or why not?) summary of ocean acidification science

the evolution of knowledge throughout this period. *Citation:* Brewer, P. G.: A short history of ocean acidification science in the 20th century: a chemist's view, Biogeosciences Discuss., 10, 8715-8748, doi:10.5194/bgd-10-8715-2013, 2013. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds

Re: [geo] Re: Transcript of Keith, Shiva, Hamilton, Goodman interview

a somewhat different agenda than authors: they may have a somewhat keener interest in making the subhead punchy as opposed to descriptively exact. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net

[geo] Why GE? classic articles that set the context

, it is clear that we live on a human-dominated planet. * --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [geo] Clive Hamilton's op-ed in the New York Times today

and accountability in a pragmatic measureable and visible way, and we need to start building that into our activities without waiting for a decadal governance debate to commence (let alone conclude). * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing

Re: [geo] Moderation of messages submitted to the group

work. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Sam Carana sam.car...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, More than two years ago, I submitted a message

Re: [geo] Clive Hamilton's op-ed in the New York Times today

An excellent point. This is why I have been arguing for a holistic view of anthopocene climate management that includes the full 15,000-year? span of anthopocene modifications beginning with animal plant domestication (never underestimate the land use / land cover modification ability of sheep

Re: [geo] Opinion: Dreams we cannot afford, by Russ George — The Daily Climate

..;.For better or worse Holocene == conserve. I'd like to find a word that conveys human appropriation of net primary productivity -- HANPPoforming? --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net

[geo] TCR ECS

faster. This is the warming has slowed argument. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter: http://geoengineeringIT.net:8080 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[geo] Grist magazine on geoengineering

not the planet?” If the hubris there is too much for you, Hamilton balances it with a line from another scientist, Ron Prinn: “How can you engineer a system you don’t understand?” --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering and information technology GE NewsFilter

Re: [geo] New climate article, peripherally related to CDR

I like the idea of listing many (most?) of the known processes. I believe that GE in general suffers from a lack of synoptic thinking as advocates of individual technologies become single issue voters. --- Fred Zimmerman Geoengineering IT! Bringing together the worlds of geoengineering

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