Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management

2005-08-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Hal V. Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is needed for GIMP 2.4 are two very simple plug-ins that will do two things: 1. Allow the user to assign a profile to an image. This would pull up a dialog that allows the user to assign the default working space profile or select from a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management

2005-08-13 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 04:15 am, Jordi Canton wrote: I disagree somewhat. IMO there should be a configurable profile search path similar to what we have for brushes, fonts etc. The user shouldn't have to select ICC profiles by selecting files. Instead there should be a profile

[Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management

2005-08-10 Thread Jordi Canton
Hello, Hal wrote: 1. Currently embedded profiles are not used. This needs to be implemented The gimp-color-management plug-in (by Jordi Canton [EMAIL PROTECTED]) looks like it has the code needed to read in an embedded profile and could be leveraged to get this functionality. Highest

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management

2005-08-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Jordi Canton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually the plugin is reading the profile attached as parasite. Last time I checked, only the TIFF files were abe to read/write the profiles as color parasites. There is no problem to read the color profile as parasite but the read/write color

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management

2005-08-10 Thread Jordi Canton
I disagree somewhat. IMO there should be a configurable profile search path similar to what we have for brushes, fonts etc. The user shouldn't have to select ICC profiles by selecting files. Instead there should be a profile selector. This widget would list all available profiles, showing

[Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2005-02-09 Thread Jordi Cantón
I just released version 0.1.0 of the gimp-color-manager plugin. Important changes since last version: -Re-design of the user interface in order to clarify the workflow (Thanks to Hal suggestions) -I correct several bugs found in the code -Now it should also work on a windows box. I made a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2005-02-09 Thread Hal V. Engel
I just installed and tested this latest version. At this point it is good enough to be of use for those that need/want color management. The changes that were made between version 0.0.9 and this version were mostly to the user interface (big improvement) and some bug fixes. I have also

[Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2005-02-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, J.Canton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I should also compile a local version fo glib2.6/GTK 2.6 in order to be able to compile the Gimp cvs HEAD, isn't it? You will need glib/gtk+ 2.6 but there is actually no reason to keep those local since 2.6 is fully backward compatible to earlier

[Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2005-02-07 Thread Jordi Cantón
Hello, Great news!! I have been working in the gimp-color-manager plugin which is strongly related (in fact it can be modified to meet your 7th point) I already have corrected the bugs found in the previous release and made some changes in order to clarify the workflow. Actually the plugin can

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-31 Thread Francisco Bernal
The idea is to be able to use different color management systems and not to restrict ourselves to lcms. Yes !! Please. We should have the possibility to decide if use one or other CMS. /*--*/ Francisco Bernal Rosso Webpage at:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Hal V. Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - default cmyk-profile (is later used to convert RGB-CMYK) I guess that this is for the printer? Since all of my printers are logically RGB devices (the drivers expect RGB input) I am not sure how useful this is to me but for others it might

[Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Gerhard Gaußling
Sven Neumann wrote: If we don't convert the image at load time, all plug-ins that change colors would have to be aware of the color-space the image is in. Since this is not the case for the time being, it would probably be a bad idea to not convert the image. As soon as we go further down the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread David Neary
Hi Gerhard, Gerhard Gaußling wrote: I'm not a Programmer, but isn't it possible to make a plug-in which load's the icc information at a first step, to offer the user the ability to decide in which way he wants to handle the file regarding it's color space? It would be possible to do the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Gerhard Gauling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the suggestions made by Hal V. Engel and Jan-Peter Homann (a well known color management consultant in Germany, afair also a member of the eci.org maillist, a very good resource for cms knowledge) are very important for a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...Sven has expressed a desire that color management be kept out of the core in the past. You misunderstood me then. Managing colors does of course belong into the core but I would like to keep the implementation out of the core. The idea is to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday 15 January 2005 13:21, David Neary wrote: Hi Gerhard, Gerhard Gaußling wrote: I'm not a Programmer, but isn't it possible to make a plug-in which load's the icc information at a first step, to offer the user the ability to decide in which way he wants to handle the file

[Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Gerhard Gaußling
Hello Sven, thank you for your reply! Sven Neumann wrote: Gerhard Gaußling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, so I assume, that my (and Hal's and Jan-Peter's) suggestions have to wait for the release after GEGL? For a new rendering-engine further to GEGL? GIMP 3.0? Why? Almost everything

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi Gerhard, Gerhard Gaußling wrote: What kind of softproof is available? Hmm.. I can nothing similar find here. It took me a while to find it too - it's under the View - Display Filters. In the resulting dialog you can choose from a number of filters, including Colour Proof. When we were

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Gerhard Gauling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What kind of softproof is available? Hmm.. I can nothing similar find here. Go to View-Display Filters and enable the Display Proof filter. Please, I'm sorry for my sad english, and I hope this all doesn't sounds to rude. I wanted only spend

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alastair M. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When we were discussing colour management a few months back, I hacked the Colour Proof filter to do a normal working-profile - monitor-profile transform, and it worked pretty well. Yes, it's a shame that you never submitted this for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday 15 January 2005 17:37, Sven Neumann wrote: snip Let's try to implement this in small steps then. As a first step I would like to add a couple of options to the preferences to allow users to define default locations for color profiles, to enable/disable color management and to set a

[Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2004-07-16 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
Hello. Several mails in this thread says that the images will be converted between colorspaces, such as monitor colorspace. Does GIMP keep two versions of the same image: one for image processing and saving, and one for displaying? I remember how XV converted images to fit better to the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2004-07-16 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 16:40:23 +0300, Juhana Sadeharju [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Several mails in this thread says that the images will be converted between colorspaces, such as monitor colorspace. Does GIMP keep two versions of the same image: one for image processing and saving, and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: color management

2004-07-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Juhana Sadeharju [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Several mails in this thread says that the images will be converted between colorspaces, such as monitor colorspace. I don't think anyone ever mentioned to convert the image to the monitor colorspace. Does GIMP keep two versions of the same