Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-08 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/8/07, Sven Neumann wrote: > > What I was trying to tell you is that that message exists, but doesn't > > show up. Which means that something is broken ;-) > > It does show up. So the brokeness seems to be on your setup. Both Ubuntu Feisty laptop at home and WinXP SP2 workstation at work? ;-)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 10:41 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > What I was trying to tell you is that that message exists, but doesn't > show up. Which means that something is broken ;-) It does show up. So the brokeness seems to be on your setup. Sven __

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/8/07, Sven Neumann wrote: > > As of 2.3.14 there is not such tooltip. DIsplay of tooltips is enabled > > in preferences. > > There is. I just checked once more (and I had already checked > yesterday). What I was trying to tell you is that that message exists, but doesn't show up. Which means

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 13:13 +0200, Aurimas Juška wrote: > It actually uses GtkDrawingArea. This is related to zoom & cropping > functionality. If we dropped cropping, one of Gimp widgets could be > used. I don't see why you couldn't implement cropping with one of the GimpPreview widgets. >

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-07 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Thu, 2007-02-08 at 02:36 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > As of 2.3.14 there is not such tooltip. DIsplay of tooltips is enabled > in preferences. There is. I just checked once more (and I had already checked yesterday). Sven ___ Gimp-de

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/7/07, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 05:39 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > While we are discussing it, is it possible to add a remark to the > > current dialog that enabling preview also calculates size of resulted > > file? I already heard several times from new

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-07 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/7/07, gg wrote: > I should probably have chosen a more precise and less emotive term than > lame. In chosing "save for the web" the use indicates he does not know > what is involved and is expecting gimp to magically do it for him, not > unreasonably since the program is offering that as an o

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-07 Thread gg
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:32:04 +0100, Thorsten Wilms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 01:58:21PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Despite the idiot-user title of this feature (copied for PS it seems) > > ... > >> If the user is so lame that they are going to click on a featur

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-07 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Wed, Feb 07, 2007 at 01:58:21PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Despite the idiot-user title of this feature (copied for PS it seems) ... > If the user is so lame that they are going to click on a feature called > "save for the web" If a user wants to save images for use on the web,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-07 Thread gg
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:16:33 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 20:03:59, peter sikking wrote: > >> - that in-dialog cropping looks like a very uncomfortable way >>to do that to me; >> - simply display the Size in the fields that are now called >>Resize now w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-07 Thread Aurimas Juška
Hi, On 2/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 20:03:59, peter sikking wrote: > > > - that in-dialog cropping looks like a very uncomfortable way > >to do that to me; > > - simply display the Size in the fields that are now called > >Resize now

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-07 Thread Aurimas Juška
Hi, On 2/6/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, does this plug-in use GimpPreview widgets? I would like to get some > feedback on features and API of GimpPreview and its derivatives. > It actually uses GtkDrawingArea. This is related to zoom & cropping functionality. If we dropped

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-07 Thread jernej
On Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 20:03:59, peter sikking wrote: > - that in-dialog cropping looks like a very uncomfortable way >to do that to me; > - simply display the Size in the fields that are now called >Resize now without the open/close triangle, and remove the >other size display;

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 05:39 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > While we are discussing it, is it possible to add a remark to the > current dialog that enabling preview also calculates size of resulted > file? I already heard several times from new users that GIMP doesn't > calculate resulte

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/6/07, peter sikking wrote: > So I think, right now, that the all the image area should be used > to preview the jpg, with a Preview checkbox, for the users like > Thorsten who want to do original/jpg comparisons. While we are discussing it, is it possible to add a remark to the current dialo

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread peter sikking
Aurimas wrote: > I've worked on a similar plug-in. It would be very interesting to hear > some comments on it as I am planning to improve it. Here is a short > introduction: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6571/ > saveforwebid4.jpg > Peter, could you tell if it fits in save for web scenarios a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 05:01:33PM +0200, Aurimas Ju?ka wrote: > I've worked on a similar plug-in. It would be very interesting to hear > some comments on it as I am planning to improve it. Here is a short > introduction: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6571/saveforwebid4.jpg > Peter, could you

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 17:01 +0200, Aurimas Juška wrote: > I've worked on a similar plug-in. It would be very interesting to hear > some comments on it as I am planning to improve it. Here is a short > introduction: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6571/saveforwebid4.jpg > Peter, could you t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread Aurimas Juška
On 2/3/07, peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > BTW, some apps have web export dialogs with side by side > > panes original/compressed. I found toggling between > > original/preview in the same view to be superior if > > you want to spot JPG artifacts. It's important

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 21:01 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > > Yeah it can go. It would only make sense if a Cancel on > > the jpeg options would get you back to the Save_Image dialog, > > in case you see that the jpeg compression is not appropriate, > > you change your mind and go back for png o

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 14:02 +0100, peter sikking wrote: > Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > > I think the Save_Image dialog should just disappear > > after use, as both Cancel and Help are available on > > the second dialog and what else would it be good for? > > Yeah it can go. It would only make s

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 11:28 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote: > Me too. The new setup where the preview is a layer in the image > dialog (I just updated and saw it) is wonderful. I'd been struggling > with focus/raise issues with the old separate-window setup (click on > the dialog and it would raise

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 12:48 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > I think the Save_Image dialog should just disappear > after use, as both Cancel and Help are available on > the second dialog and what else would it be good for? If I remember correctly, it used to serve as a place to show the prog

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-03 Thread Akkana Peck
Thorsten Wilms writes: > I found toggling between > original/preview in the same view to be superior if > you want to spot JPG artifacts. Me too. The new setup where the preview is a layer in the image dialog (I just updated and saw it) is wonderful. I'd been struggling with focus/raise issues

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-03 Thread peter sikking
Thorsten Wilms wrote: >> If we try to do an all in one, then the result has to >> look and feel like a dialog, not like a main window, >> because of the modal nature (finish this first) of the task. > > But this would not be like your common dialog that disappears > after Cancel/OK, but rather a w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-03 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 02:02:58PM +0100, peter sikking wrote: > Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > > I think the Save_Image dialog should just disappear > > after use, as both Cancel and Help are available on > > the second dialog and what else would it be good for? > > Yeah it can go. It would only make

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-03 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 01:13:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Saturday, February 3, 2007, 12:48:54, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > > > Then the Save_as_JPEG controls could appear on the image > > window (inspired by the Firefox find bar) to further cut > > down on window juggling. > > Only a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-03 Thread peter sikking
Thorsten Wilms wrote: > I think the Save_Image dialog should just disappear > after use, as both Cancel and Help are available on > the second dialog and what else would it be good for? Yeah it can go. It would only make sense if a Cancel on the jpeg options would get you back to the Save_Image d

Re: [Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated

2007-02-03 Thread jernej
On Saturday, February 3, 2007, 12:48:54, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Then the Save_as_JPEG controls could appear on the image > window (inspired by the Firefox find bar) to further cut > down on window juggling. Only as an option - some of us have multiple displays, and use the advanced options reg

[Gimp-developer] Save As JPG Integrated (mockup)

2007-02-03 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi! Whenever I save an image as JPG, I have to move both the Save_Image and the Save_as_JPEG dialog out of the way to check the preview. I think the Save_Image dialog should just disappear after use, as both Cancel and Help are available on the second dialog and what else would it be good for