[Gimp-user] printing GIMPed photos
Is anyone able to recommend the best (or a good) printer for a Gimp user on a Linux (SuSE) system? I want good quality prints, with good color. Cost is a factor, but is not the most important factor. Gimp is the only photo-editing program I use, but I don't have to use Gimp for printing. I could learn to use Scribus for printing, if that's recommended. Thanks for any help with this. Helen, using GIMP 2.2.9, SuSE 10 see my photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettervor/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] using a mask to help blend exposures
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 10:05:52PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an image showing the two images I started with (using the Canon raw image, I created the two images on the left with different exposures), and the mask I created using the threshold: http://www.aracnet.com/~patman/gimp/gimp-snapshot.jpg Using the above with layer masks, (plus the invert of the threshold mask), I can create the following two (below on left and right), and then combine these in two layers with addition mode to create the final image on the far right: http://www.aracnet.com/~patman/gimp/gimp-final.jpg The final image is not much better than the darker image I started with :-( Anyway, it's just hard to get good photos with a snow background, especially white-on-white of the dog and snow. I have another image I want to try this on, even if this didn't get much improvment. you have managed to provide an image that is as confusing as what you have described :) congrats :) the xcf would have told me almost everything that i needed -- but i did not ask for that. i think that what you would like to do will be more easily accomplished if you mask only the upper layer. what ever pixels are not transparent will block the same pixels from the layer below. you can make whatever color adjustments to the color of the snow background on the lower layer (the levels tool is really nice for this) and handle the color of the puppy in the masked layer. the way to access the image part of a masked layer is to use the mouse to select the image icon in the Layers dialog. there is a menu in that dialog that allows you to see the mask in the image as well. the things that you are doing in this image are very much like the tutorial i have that makes the sky nicer. one masked layer and two separate color changes to the image (or a complete replacement of the sky, even) is the simplest way to handle that. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Golden Letters #2
Am 29.11.2005 um 22:10 schrieb Michael Henke: Hi all, Attachment No. 1 shows the letters that I created in The Gimp, Attachment No.2 shows the result after I copy and paste it in Microsoft Frontpage. wait a minute - that wasn't you sending a 500kB post with binary attachments to a mailing list with hundreds of recipients right?? But if you would have been the one - would you p_l_e_a_s_e have a look on google and check for a document called netiquette - get it, read it and then you are invited to ask the question again. Thanks a lot lexa --- Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get... GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] using a mask to help blend exposures
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:14:28AM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 10:05:52PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you have managed to provide an image that is as confusing as what you have described :) congrats :) Well that is how it goes ... the xcf would have told me almost everything that i needed -- but i did not ask for that. The xcf files (from a previous try) are there, under: http://www.aracnet.com/~patman/gimp/ i think that what you would like to do will be more easily accomplished if you mask only the upper layer. what ever pixels are not transparent will block the same pixels from the layer below. I think that is what I've been trying to do. It should make it easier to fix up the resulting image if I can get all the data (multiple layers and masks) into one xcf file. The method I have is working, but it is not easy to fix up the result. you can make whatever color adjustments to the color of the snow background on the lower layer (the levels tool is really nice for this) and handle the color of the puppy in the masked layer. yes ... I am also using ufraw plug in for white balance / color adjustment and exposure setting before editing in gimp. the way to access the image part of a masked layer is to use the mouse to select the image icon in the Layers dialog. there is a menu in that dialog that allows you to see the mask in the image as well. the things that you are doing in this image are very much like the tutorial i have that makes the sky nicer. one masked layer and two separate color changes to the image (or a complete replacement of the sky, even) is the simplest way to handle that. guess you mean: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/photography/sky/replace/ The part I am having trouble figuring out would be the complete replacement of the sky technique. I need to add a portion of another (darker) image, ideally via some layer mask. -- Patrick Mansfield ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Carol Spears wrote: it is should be easy to install gimp-perl. Most everything's easy once you know what to do and how to do it. Learning what to do and how to do it is the hard part. 1) make sure you have libgimp-dev installed from your distribution. it might also be called gimp-dev. gimp-devel was the only package which came up as uninstalled when I queried YaST for gimp. So I installed it. 2) get the tarball and as a user inflate it and cd into that new directory. Did that 3 days ago. 3) as a user only (not as root) type perl Makefile.PL. once that is completed and successful, type make. Once that is completed and successful is the catch here. I'm still getting the same problem I had before I installed gimp-devel. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 perl Makefile.PL checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for gimptool-2.0... /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gimptool-2.0 script: /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 configure: error: ** unable to find gimp, make sure it's in your path (version 1.3.15+ required!) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde3/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 which gimp /opt/gnome/bin/gimp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 ls -l /opt/gnome/bin/gimp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2005-12-05 11:52 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp - gimp-2.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 ls -l /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12577997 2005-11-10 01:59 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.2 What now? Thanks, Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] using a mask to help blend exposures
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:27:04AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:14:28AM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 10:05:52PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the xcf would have told me almost everything that i needed -- but i did not ask for that. The xcf files (from a previous try) are there, under: http://www.aracnet.com/~patman/gimp/ http://carol.gimp.org/files/example.xcf.gz i think that what you would like to do will be more easily accomplished if you mask only the upper layer. what ever pixels are not transparent will block the same pixels from the layer below. I think that is what I've been trying to do. It should make it easier to fix up the resulting image if I can get all the data (multiple layers and masks) into one xcf file. The method I have is working, but it is not easy to fix up the result. what is stopping you from working with only one image? you can make whatever color adjustments to the color of the snow background on the lower layer (the levels tool is really nice for this) and handle the color of the puppy in the masked layer. yes ... I am also using ufraw plug in for white balance / color adjustment and exposure setting before editing in gimp. whatever works for you. the way to access the image part of a masked layer is to use the mouse to select the image icon in the Layers dialog. there is a menu in that dialog that allows you to see the mask in the image as well. the things that you are doing in this image are very much like the tutorial i have that makes the sky nicer. one masked layer and two separate color changes to the image (or a complete replacement of the sky, even) is the simplest way to handle that. guess you mean: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/photography/sky/replace/ could be. i am finding it difficult to look at my old tutorials. The part I am having trouble figuring out would be the complete replacement of the sky technique. I need to add a portion of another (darker) image, ideally via some layer mask. if you add your original layer to the ones i put together for you, you should have all you need to make it look better. the mask i used is the hue layer in hsv decomposition. i used the paintbrush to make the mask black where it should be black and white where it should be white -- meaning, the decomposition did not work entirely to make the mask the way i wanted it. i am curious to know what kept you working on the images separately. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:22:51PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Carol Spears wrote: it is should be easy to install gimp-perl. Most everything's easy once you know what to do and how to do it. Learning what to do and how to do it is the hard part. 1) make sure you have libgimp-dev installed from your distribution. it might also be called gimp-dev. gimp-devel was the only package which came up as uninstalled when I queried YaST for gimp. So I installed it. 2) get the tarball and as a user inflate it and cd into that new directory. Did that 3 days ago. 3) as a user only (not as root) type perl Makefile.PL. once that is completed and successful, type make. Once that is completed and successful is the catch here. I'm still getting the same problem I had before I installed gimp-devel. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 perl Makefile.PL checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for gimptool-2.0... /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gimptool-2.0 script: /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 configure: error: ** unable to find gimp, make sure it's in your path (version 1.3.15+ required!) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 echo $PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde3/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 which gimp /opt/gnome/bin/gimp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 ls -l /opt/gnome/bin/gimp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2005-12-05 11:52 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp - gimp-2.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 ls -l /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12577997 2005-11-10 01:59 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.2 thank you for sticking with it. i do not even know how to strip this email, i left it in tact. try editing this script to use /opt/gnome instead of /usr/local : http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimpenv then type source gimpenv before perl Makefile.PL btw, you seem to have a handle on some *nix things that i don't. i still fumble around when trying to use echo. it is one of the problems that happens when you get things working and they work so well for so long. again, thank you for your persistence. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Carol Spears wrote: thank you for sticking with it. I *require* Add Glow in the work that I do with The GIMP. I have no choice but to stick with it. :) try editing this script to use /opt/gnome instead of /usr/local : http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimpenv OK. then type source gimpenv before perl Makefile.PL OK. That didn't really seem necessary. AFAICT, it simply added /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig to my $PKG_CONFIG_PATH, /opt/gnome/bin to my $PATH, and opt/gnome/lib to my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH - all of which already contained those paths as you can see below. btw, you seem to have a handle on some *nix things that i don't. Really? Hmmm... That makes me feel good, I guess. :) I still fumble around when trying to use echo. I really only use it whenever I want to see the contents of my $PATH variable. it is one of the problems that happens when you get things working and they work so well for so long. again, thank you for your persistence. You're welcome, I suppose. Thanks for yours as well. Honestly, though, I don't feel, though, that I'm doing anything out of the ordinary whenever I run into this kind of trouble with something on my system. BTW, nothing improved. :) Myke -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 source gimpenv ACLOCAL_FLAGS set to -I /opt/gnome/share/aclocal PKG_CONFIG_PATH set to /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig PATH set to /opt/gnome/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde3/bin LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to /opt/gnome/lib:/opt/gnome/lib: You can now build GIMP in /opt/gnome. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 perl Makefile.PL checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for gimptool-2.0... /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gimptool-2.0 script: /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 configure: error: ** unable to find gimp, make sure it's in your path (version 1.3.15+ required!) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Luptak wrote: look at config.log - it found gimptool this time, but had another error. http://mykec.com/mykec/config.log Looks like you're missing glib.h - on my SuSE system, it's at /opt/gnome/include/glib-2.0/glib.h . I'd guess it's in the glib2-devel package on SuSE. P.S. You replied to me personally and not also to the list. Was that intentional? Nope, as soon as I sent it, I said, 'Did I reply to all?' -a ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:07:41PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Carol Spears wrote: thank you for sticking with it. I *require* Add Glow in the work that I do with The GIMP. I have no choice but to stick with it. :) try editing this script to use /opt/gnome instead of /usr/local : http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimpenv OK. then type source gimpenv before perl Makefile.PL OK. That didn't really seem necessary. AFAICT, it simply added /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig to my $PKG_CONFIG_PATH, /opt/gnome/bin to my $PATH, and opt/gnome/lib to my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH - all of which already contained those paths as you can see below. btw, you seem to have a handle on some *nix things that i don't. Really? Hmmm... That makes me feel good, I guess. :) I still fumble around when trying to use echo. I really only use it whenever I want to see the contents of my $PATH variable. it is one of the problems that happens when you get things working and they work so well for so long. again, thank you for your persistence. You're welcome, I suppose. Thanks for yours as well. Honestly, though, I don't feel, though, that I'm doing anything out of the ordinary whenever I run into this kind of trouble with something on my system. BTW, nothing improved. :) inspite of my couple of mistyped instructions, this should have worked. i am curious if you have gimptool installed now after installing the developer package from your distribution (was it suse?). i am trying to save face here and read the man page for pkg-config. what does pkg-config --modversion gimp-2.0 report? carol -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 source gimpenv ACLOCAL_FLAGS set to -I /opt/gnome/share/aclocal PKG_CONFIG_PATH set to /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig:/opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig PATH set to /opt/gnome/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde3/bin LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to /opt/gnome/lib:/opt/gnome/lib: You can now build GIMP in /opt/gnome. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 perl Makefile.PL checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for gimptool-2.0... /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gimptool-2.0 script: /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 configure: error: ** unable to find gimp, make sure it's in your path (version 1.3.15+ required!) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] printing GIMPed photos
Helen wrote: Is anyone able to recommend the best (or a good) printer for a Gimp user on a Linux (SuSE) system? I want good quality prints, with good color. Cost is a factor, but is not the most important factor. Gimp is the only photo-editing program I use, but I don't have to use Gimp for printing. I could learn to use Scribus for printing, if that's recommended. Thanks for any help with this. Helen, using GIMP 2.2.9, SuSE 10 see my photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/ettervor/ Gimp uses Gimp-Print for printing so if you see the list of supported printers at the Gimp-Print website (use Google to search for Gimp-Print to find the URL of the site), you can find a printer that suits your needs best. :) Good luck! Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Myke C. Subs wrote: checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you The problem lies in where you have gimp-2.x installed. That is what the error message is saying. Q. Why can't it find the gimp? A. because it is looking in the wrong place Q. Where is it looking? A. Where the enviroment variable is telling it to look. Q. Where is that A. Unless you tell it otherwise, it is looking at /usr/lib/pkgconf Q. Where is the gimp-2.0.pc file? A. most likely in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig Q. So what do I do? A. Tell it to look in the right place. Q. How do I do that? A. set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ Comment. This is normally done on the standard linux distros with export. I suggest you do # export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib # export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/:/usr/lib/pkgconfig/ However if you have built gimp in /opt or some othe strange place, put the correct path in Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Aaron Luptak wrote: On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Luptak wrote: look at config.log - it found gimptool this time, but had another error. http://mykec.com/mykec/config.log Looks like you're missing glib.h - on my SuSE system, it's at /opt/gnome/include/glib-2.0/glib.h . I'd guess it's in the glib2-devel package on SuSE. OK. glib2-devel wasn't installed on my system. It is now. A dependency required pkgconfig to also be installed - so I'm guessing that that takes care of the missing pkg-config which Carol was telling me about. Thanks, we'll see what happens now. Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Carol Spears wrote: what does pkg-config --modversion gimp-2.0 report? 2.0.4 pkgconfig had to be installed due to dependencies when I installed glib2-devel. Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Carol Spears wrote: inspite of my couple of mistyped instructions, this should have worked. i am curious if you have gimptool installed now after installing the developer package from your distribution (was it suse?). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/gnome/bin ls -l gimptool* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 gimptool - gimptool-2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root10660 2005-11-10 02:00 gimptool-2.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 gimptool-2.2 - gimptool-2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 perl Makefile.PL checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for gimptool-2.0... /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gimptool-2.0 script: /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 configure: error: ** unable to find gimp, make sure it's in your path (version 1.3.15+ required!) I am most concerned at this point about this line in particular from the above: checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no ...because that's not true. Perhaps I should uninstall and then reinstall my GIMP 2.2.9 RPM? Or what about rpm --updatedb? Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] using a mask to help blend exposures
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 12:06:27PM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 10:27:04AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:14:28AM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 10:05:52PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the xcf would have told me almost everything that i needed -- but i did not ask for that. The xcf files (from a previous try) are there, under: http://www.aracnet.com/~patman/gimp/ http://carol.gimp.org/files/example.xcf.gz i think that what you would like to do will be more easily accomplished if you mask only the upper layer. what ever pixels are not transparent will block the same pixels from the layer below. I think that is what I've been trying to do. It should make it easier to fix up the resulting image if I can get all the data (multiple layers and masks) into one xcf file. The method I have is working, but it is not easy to fix up the result. what is stopping you from working with only one image? That is what I've been trying to figure out! you can make whatever color adjustments to the color of the snow background on the lower layer (the levels tool is really nice for this) and handle the color of the puppy in the masked layer. yes ... I am also using ufraw plug in for white balance / color adjustment and exposure setting before editing in gimp. whatever works for you. I don't think it's possible to do this with a jpg, at least it is more limited in range of exposure values (AFAIUI), the raw has more information, and you can adjust exposure levels (to some degree) with no loss of detail. if you add your original layer to the ones i put together for you, you should have all you need to make it look better. the mask i used is the hue layer in hsv decomposition. i used the paintbrush to make the mask black where it should be black and white where it should be white -- meaning, the decomposition did not work entirely to make the mask the way i wanted it. i am curious to know what kept you working on the images separately. I got it now ... I just had to put both my under and over exposed images in separate layers, add masks too each, and copy the threshold (black/white image with some gaussian blur) and its inverted version into the masks. I still have to muck with the masks separately and copy them in again when they are changed - I'm playing some with gaussian blur ranges, and affect on the final photo. Thanks ... -- Patrick Mansfield ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 08:05:04PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-07-05 19:07]: Q. Where is the gimp-2.0.pc file? A. most likely in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig Nope. It's in /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig You, at least, have one. I have a SUSE install almost strictly rpm which has gimp-2.2.8-9 and there is *no* gimp-2.0.pc. i am having problems with this because i have been using a different distribution, and once you figure out how they work together -- well, you can even see very very fine points where they don't. to the very best of my understanding, although it is not written in stone or anything like that, the distributions will only install the stuff that runs on top of X in /usr and you get to install things in /opt or /usr/local or even some directory you invent and mkdir myinvention yourself. i have never used suse, so they might do things differently. perhaps they allow you to install their packages elsewhere. to be honest, i think they all started out as redhat. the pc files are installed with the -dev packages. are you certain that you did not build your own or redirect the installation? i am going to be really honest now. it is days and challenges like this that make me sorry we wrote about how to get and install gimp from cvs and not about how to get and install gimp from a tarball. the linux i know and wish you were using should have no problems putting their packages where they should be and allowing you to find them with your build tools and use them to make your own software. debian names their distributions more according to where they are in development. stable is so stable it is boring, testing is usually really stable it feels boring to use. sid grows mold before they update. experimental is still behind what i would like to see in some of the software i am using. i have two questions now. i sit here and try to imagine what the problem is here. one question is 1)what are the different suse distributions and why did you choose that one and 2)did you redirect your gimp installation? i wonder if suse was trying to hard to be different from the redhat it started life as that it now does not behave like a linux should. it doesn't really need to be a my distribution is better than yours discussion, especially since i know that it can be really difficult to work with volunteers the way debian does and i can probably point to evidence where it is a difficult way to work before you can. i guess i would at this point like to understand suse and what your expectations are and the reason you are working with that particular version. i do know its parent company let go a larger portion of its linux employees and kept a larger portion of its employees that keep its enemies software alive. as two users, we are totally allowed to guess at what this might do to users of this distribution. at least i think we can. a few years ago, it was possible to say type this into any terminal and with the occasional exception of usually gentoo, it always worked. i honestly started this thinking it would be installed and working sanely days ago. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] using a mask to help blend exposures
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 05:38:02PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 12:06:27PM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: what is stopping you from working with only one image? That is what I've been trying to figure out! xcf is the gimps native file format. it is useful for saving layers, selections, paths, masks and maybe more. it in itself is only useful for gimp. if you save your working copy in xcf and flatten the whole thing when finished and save as jpg, then you can easily go back and edit it from the xcf. most of the graphics art applications (no matter what the parent operating system is) have a format like this. i cut the portion where you understood that jpg does not handle layers. with the xcf you can save the finished copy as jpg, png, gif, xpm or any of a number of formats, and still go back and work on it if you think it needs improving. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Myke C. Subs wrote: Owen wrote: The problem lies in where you have gimp-2.x installed. That is what the error message is saying. I have gimp-2.x installed right where the SuSE 9.2 RPM said to put it. fair enough, but where is that gimp-2.0 executable? /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.0 ??? Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-07-05 20:50]: i am having problems with this because i have been using a different distribution, and once you figure out how they work together -- well, you can even see very very fine points where they don't. they are all the same only different. to the very best of my understanding, although it is not written in stone or anything like that, the distributions will only install the stuff that runs on top of X in /usr and you get to install things in /opt or /usr/local or even some directory you invent and mkdir myinvention yourself. i have never used suse, so they might do things differently. perhaps they allow you to install their packages elsewhere. to be honest, i think they all started out as redhat. no, SuSE is from Slackware as is Redhat. the pc files are installed with the -dev packages. are you certain that you did not build your own or redirect the installation? Installed from the distro dvd and updated in the same position. i am going to be really honest now. it is days and challenges like this that make me sorry we wrote about how to get and install gimp from cvs and not about how to get and install gimp from a tarball. tarballs upset the rpm way. If you are going to use rpm, you need to stick with rpm. tarballs do not update the rpm database and package dependencies don't match, file locations end up where the programmer designs rather that following the distro.. the linux i know and wish you were using should have no problems putting their packages where they should be and allowing you to find them with your build tools and use them to make your own software. there was a drive that SUSE was party to, to create a base standard file system design to be followed, but I don't belive that everyone has bought into it. debian names their distributions more according to where they are in development. stable is so stable it is boring, testing is usually really stable it feels boring to use. sid grows mold before they update. experimental is still behind what i would like to see in some of the software i am using. SUSE is pretty much cutting edge. i have two questions now. i sit here and try to imagine what the problem is here. one question is 1)what are the different suse distributions and why did you choose that one and 2)did you redirect your gimp installation? 1. I still am using 9.0, but have 10.0 on the disktop ready to install. I seem to drag my feet when I get something to work really well. SUSE has two main (not commercial) distros now, one with only open source freely downloadable and one iso which is sold and contains a few things like acroread... 2. I installed from the distro dvd and have updated apps in the same locations as the original install. (via rpm) i wonder if suse was trying to hard to be different from the redhat it started life as that it now does not behave like a linux should. not from Redhat, from Slackware. But they are not trying to show that they are different than Slackware. There is no longer any simularity other than they are both linux. it doesn't really need to be a my distribution is better than yours discussion, especially since i know that it can be really difficult to work with volunteers the way debian does and i can probably point to evidence where it is a difficult way to work before you can. i guess i would at this point like to understand suse and what your expectations are and the reason you are working with that particular version. I have used maybe 20 different distros over the years, starting with Slackware downloaded onto 20 floppy disks on a 1200 baud telephone modum. I guess I just feel SUSE fits the best. I also have a '99 Harley Wide Glide, but rode Yamaha rockets for many years. i do know its parent company let go a larger portion of its linux employees and kept a larger portion of its employees that keep its enemies software alive. as two users, we are totally allowed to guess at what this might do to users of this distribution. at least i think we can. I know that they cut people, but I beleve that the SUSE development team is mostly intact. The cuts were mostly in other areas. a few years ago, it was possible to say type this into any terminal and with the occasional exception of usually gentoo, it always worked. i honestly started this thinking it would be installed and working sanely days ago. file system design.. If you would like a look at the rpm I updated gimp with, it's available at: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/gimp_2.2.8-9_i586.rpm the directory structure and requirements are within the rpm. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 ___ Gimp-user mailing list
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/gnome/bin ls -l gimptool* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 gimptool - gimptool-2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root10660 2005-11-10 02:00 gimptool-2.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 gimptool-2.2 - gimptool-2.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Downloads/TGZ/Gimp-2.0 perl Makefile.PL checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for gcc... cc [snip] checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes [snip] checking for gimptool-2.0... /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the What is the output of tail config.log? *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved GIMP since it was installed. In the latter case, you *** may want to edit the gimptool-2.0 script: /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 configure: error: ** unable to find gimp, make sure it's in your path (version 1.3.15+ required!) I am most concerned at this point about this line in particular from the above: checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no ...because that's not true. Perhaps I should uninstall and then reinstall my GIMP 2.2.9 RPM? I don't think it has to do with your RPM. The checks for GIMP that the source makes assume certain conditions which usually are created when gimp is built from source. I'm conserned about this line: *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log What compiler are you using? Do you have the development headers for the libraries used to make gimp? (Installing gimp-devel should have brought them in, but...) for the Or what about rpm --updatedb? Naw, I don't think the source would check your package manager if GIMP was installed. Hum... what if you look for a package called gimpperl in YaST? If it's not there, maybe google for a SuSe RPM for gimp-perl (make sure it matches your OS exactly, since IIRC RPMs can be lethal if they don't match your distro name and version perfectly). IIRC, In Ubuntu and Linux, there is a concept of multiple repositries (e.g. multiple software CDs and/or multiple repositries on the internet) - maybe YaST needs a similar thing added if gimp-perl is not already in your OS? The only problem is, all references to gimp-perl for SuSE 9.2 that I can find refer to gimp-perl 1.2; Ubuntu is providing something that looks like a gimp-perl 2.0 so i'm naturally puzzled... *sigh* -- ~Mike - Just the crazy copy cat. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
Owen wrote: Myke C. Subs wrote: Owen wrote: The problem lies in where you have gimp-2.x installed. That is what the error message is saying. I have gimp-2.x installed right where the SuSE 9.2 RPM said to put it. fair enough, but where is that gimp-2.0 executable? /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.0 ??? Yes. Except it's gimp-2.2, not gimp-2.0. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ls -l /opt/gnome/bin/gimp* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root8 2005-12-05 11:52 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp - gimp-2.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 12577997 2005-11-10 01:59 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 2005-12-05 11:52 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-remote - gimp-remote-2.2 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root34881 2005-11-10 01:59 /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-remote-2.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool - gimptool-2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root10660 2005-11-10 02:00 /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool-2.2 - gimptool-2.0 Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer
this email was great. you are competent and know what you are doing. however, you are also not the person with the problem here nice read though carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
