Re: Measure Tool

2000-10-13 Thread Ben FrantzDale

>   I'm fairly new to "Gimp" and I know that the measure tool is new but
> I'm wondering if there is a way to actually draw a line using this tool?

There isn't that I know of. I'm not sure what that would mean. It's not
a drawing tool.

On the other hand, It might be a nice feature for the shift+click with a
painting tool to show the distance between points...

--Ben




Re: True Space

2000-10-09 Thread Ben FrantzDale

> ** Reply Requested When Convenient **
> 
> Is there a program like true space for linux?


Have you tried blender?
(You can find it on freshemat.net I think)

--Ben




Re: inconsitent antialiasing

2000-10-09 Thread Ben FrantzDale

> Hello,
>   I am running gimp 1.0.4 on red hat 6.2 
> I am trying to make text gifs in gimp, and found a strang inconsitency.
> If you look at the attached gif, 
> the "T" in "TE" "TA" "TH" "TQ" all look different. 
> I need a context-independent antialiasing solution.

It appears that you forgot the attachment but I bet this is what's going
on:

Antialiasing allows for ``sub-pixel'' rendering. a 50% grey pixel means
that half of the area of the pixel has black pixels in it and half have
white. Because most fonts dont have intigral pixel width characters, the
T can start at pixel x=5 the first time, but then pixel x=18.342 the
next time, etc.

Imagine this: Draw a box from x=10 to x=20, then one from x=31 to x=41.
Scale the image down by 1/3. The box from x=10 to x=20 maps to x=5 to
x=10. 
The box from x=31 to x=41 maps to x=15.5 to x=20.5. Therefore the second
box will have a grey pixel on each side whereas the first box will be
only black/white. The same thign is happening to you with fonts.

(This was discussed a few weeks ago I think)

--Ben




Re: Speaking about fonts

2000-09-30 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:21 AM
Subject: Speaking about fonts


> Does anybody know how to uncompress the MS Win32 self extratcing
> archives? It seems that they are becoming a new trend latelly (instead
> of zip and a good system to install fonts, they use self installers
> and waste KB like mad).

I suspect WINE will be your best bet. I don't know if there's a way to
extract the data from a self extracting .exe.


--Ben




Re: creating patterns

2000-09-29 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Hago Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gimp-Liste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:58 PM
Subject: creating patterns


> Hi,
>
> I try to create a pattern, using a part of a JPG-image.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean...

> I already did patterns, sometime I could save it as *.pat, sometimes
> not, but I don't know what it's depending of.
>
> Could somebody please describe the exact way to create a pattern?

What sort of pattern are you trying to create? What will you be using it
for? Are you talking about tiling background sorts of patterns or what?
Also, I'm not familiar with *.pat. I'd think you'd save a pattern as a
standard gif, png, jpg, whatever...

--Ben




Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Stephan Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Marc Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Ian Boreham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Does this filter exist?


> On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:42:44PM +0200, Stephan Henningsen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are
interpolated,
> > > > rather than simply repeated?"
> > >
> > > Exactly.  How do I do that? =)
> >
> > Use the scale tool or "Image->Scale Image". The answer is so obvious
that
> > I still don't think this is what you wanted to know?
>
> And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush)
> graphics tool would?

It would stretch it b stretching it, not like paintbrush does (which I
believe is not antialiased.) Gimp antialiases but there is only so much
information in an x by y pixel image.

> I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool.  Like you said, not
> just repeat the same pixels.

The best you are going to get is filtering the output of your enlargement
which is essentially what you are looking for. Do you know of any software
that does what you'r talking about?

--Ben




Re: Filters...

2000-09-21 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Tobias Gärder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gimp-User Mailinglist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:00 AM
Subject: Filters...


> Since everyone's talking about scripts & filters...
>
> Does anyone know of some script/filter to create sin/cos curves? I want
> to be able to choose the tool i want to use with it, set the
> "step"amount between every mark and then the sin/cos variables +
> decimals to get some tweaked curves (which ofcourse does not end up
> where it started from the beginning).

I'm not sure if this is quite what you want but you can get perfect sine
curves by doing a repeating sinusoidal gradient and using that as a
displacement map.

--Ben

> Or do i have to get myself some old pascal vga-lib for linux and do this
> myself? =) (That was a "i don't want to do that" sentence).
>
> Would be great if it existed.. Really simple to do too
>
> --
>  mvh,
> .---+-+---.
> | tobias gärder | webdesigner | scandinavia online ab |
> | 0733-201060   | 08-58781112 | www.passagen.se   |
> `---+-+---'
>
>
>




Re: Simple jpg question

2000-09-20 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Rick Rosinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gimp User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 11:47 PM
Subject: Simple jpg question


> I have been scanning photos with a flat-bed scanner, then
> cropping each picture in the scan into separate files.
> When I saved the separate files, I moved the compression-quality
> to 1.00 (replacing the default .75), hoping that  I would not loose
> any more quality.  I was not sure if saving a file multiple times with
> .75 would continuously degrade the image.  I figured that I  would
> wait until all of my modifications are done for each image before
> I save the final image to .80 quality.  But, I am finding that my
> disk space is drastically declining.
>
> My question is:
>
> Can I crop the images into separate files, saving them at
> .80 quality, then do modifications and save them again (into a
> separate file *.modified.jpg) at .80 quality without loosing
> quality after each save?

I believe the answer is no. Each time you save the image you encode it so
each time you loose quality. Depending on what you are going to do with the
final output it may not matter, though. If it's going to go to press then
probably you want high quality. For the web I wouldn't worry too much.

--Ben

> Thanks alot for all of your help.
>
>
> --
> Rick Rosinski
> http://rickrosinski.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-20 Thread Ben FrantzDale

[...]
> > >
> > >Neither "blow up" nor "stretch pixels" are well-defined terms. What do
you
> > >mean by them?
> >
> > I would assume that the intended question here is "How do I increase the
> > number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are interpolated,
> > rather than simply repeated?"

(just to nitpick, when you blow up an image, the pixels are interpolated,
not repeated. That's why it looks blury. Without anti-aliasing you do get
repitition. What gimp does (more or less) is a simple liniar interpolation
to find out what inbetween colors are. IE if you have a black box on white,
when you double the size you'll end up with a grey line between the black
and white because that pixel would map to between a black and a white
pixel.)

>
> Exactly.  How do I do that? =)

I think the ting to do is scale up normally, then use something like unsharp
mask to get some detail back. I remember seeing a link (perhaps from this
list) that was to information on unsharp mask and an even better shaprening
filter someone had made.

--Ben




Re: Reverse video

2000-09-20 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Leonard R. Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:45 PM
Subject: Reverse video


> Hello.
>
> Is there any quick way in GIMP to swap
> black and white colors in an imported
> color image?
>
> I have a .tif image (generated by another
> program) which I want to send to my
> printer.  The .tif image consists of a
> color graph superimposed on a black
> background.  The black background covers
> most of the image.  The graph is labeled
> by white text which appears superimposed
> on the black background.  The reason I
> want to swap black and white is that
> currently when I send this plot to my
> printer, a ton of ink gets used up in
> printing the black background.  (I am
> going to be generating a bunch of these
> plots, so it would be nice to have a
> way to swap black and white.)
>

Here's how I'd do it:
Edit->select by color
Select the black color. Copy it to the clipboard.
Select the white color. Fill it in black or invert the color (same effect).
Paste the black from the clipboard, invert the color (image->colors->invert
I think). Finally, line things up if the paste didn't go where it's supposed
to.

--Ben




Re: Very Interesting

2000-09-17 Thread Ben FrantzDale

I have only one question.

WWWD?

(what would Wilber do?)




Re: variety in letters

2000-09-15 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Jim Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: GIMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:50 PM
Subject: variety in letters


> Well, I made my own bullet, one pixel at a time, but it looks really
> good.  Now, here's another question.  I am putting black text on white,
> and using the same font at the same size I get 3 very different letter
> e's.  Take a look at :
> http://www.bsmanagement.com/llywelyn/images/e.gif
> Note how different each final e is.  Is there a reason for this?  This
> is at 8X display, but it is a little visible at 1X display too.  I'm
> only using 20 pt font.  However, reagardless, it does seem as if it
> should do the same thing every time.  Or does it?


That would be true except for the fact that the font is anti-aliased.
Basicly what gimp does (though it may actually do it slightly differently)
is draw a big copy of the font into memory, then scale it down smoothly and
draw that. Your font isn't monospaced so the e isn't an intigral number of
pixels from where that line of text started. That's why they look different.

(I think.)

--Ben




Re: A little, teeny, tiny bullet

2000-09-14 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Jim Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: GIMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: A little, teeny, tiny bullet


> Hi folks--
> I suspect my old 1.04 RH standard install may not be up for this, but I
> want to make a little tiny triangular bullet.  I've looked at a bunch of
> unsatisfactory clip art both on CD and on the web, but I would suspect
> this is something I can readily do, if I knew how.  Which I don't.  So,
> is there some easy way in GIMP (or somewhere else if that's a better
> solution) to tell it to make a little shiny bullet in selected colors?
> --
> Thanks!
> Jim Clark

Do you want a shiney bullet (like gun bullet) or a triangular typographical
bullet?
Both should be trivial even in an old gimp but what are you trying to do?

For a triangular text bullet:

using a small brush, use shif+click to draw streight lines for the outline,
then fill it in. To make it square you may want to drag from one of the
rulers on the side of the window onto your image to make a guideline.
(pretend you are draging the ruler onto the image)

Resize to taste.

For a gun bullet:
select a rectangle, then shift+select with the elipse tool to make the tip
of the bullet. Then fill that in with the gradient tool using a metalic
gradient. After that, shade, etc. the image 'till you get what you want.

--Ben




Re: MNG

2000-09-12 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Lea Anthony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Joachim Ansorg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: MNG


>
> MNG?
>
> PNG is pronounced Ping. Tell me this isn't pronounced Ming!

MNG: Multiple-image Network Graphics
(Animated PNG)

JNG: JPEG Network Graphics

> -Lea.
>
> Joachim Ansorg wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Is there a plugin to read and save MNG and JNG images in GIMP?
> > Since Konqueror can use them now I'm eager to create some.

I'm not sure if there is one. A quick Google search gives references to
people talking about the idea of MNG in Gimp but no code.

--Ben




Re: How to install GIMP.

2000-07-14 Thread Ben Frantzdale

It installs no differently (basicly) than any other unix software. You can
install it from source or you can also install it from RPM or whatever the
package type is for your system. Once it installed you can just run
``gimp'' from the command line.

--Ben

On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Marcel Olrichs wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I heard some good news about GIMP. So I downloaded the files. But how do I
> install the program!? Lots of technical bla bla on the GIMP site, but some
> kind of user (you know, people who want to use software without being bored
> with techie talk) friendly installation program is nowhere to be seen.
> 
> Any help?
> Thanks
> 
> Marcel Olrichs
> Amsterdan
> 




Re: how to transform colors

2000-06-29 Thread Ben Frantzdale

Try image->colors->hue/saturation and then rotate the colors :-)

--Ben

On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Dave Morse wrote:

> I have a picture of a helicopter in green paint.  I want to turn it into a
> picture of a helicopter in, say, pink paint.  How do I do it?
> 
> (Basically I want to preform a rotation in color-space like you can do
> with the OpenGL color-matrix extension)
> 
> http://24.16.52.60/~dm/xcobra-green-w.tif(the real image)
> http://24.16.52.60/~dm/xcobra-green-w.jpg(since netscape & tif don't mix)
> 
> PS: Though I just subscribed to this list, it may not take for a few
> hours, so you might want to CC me explicitly in any follow ups.
> 




Re: postscript to big !!

2000-06-20 Thread Ben Frantzdale



On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Christian Wenz wrote:

> i normally scan pictures with gimp and save them as *.xcf. when i like
> to plot them or to edit with xfig, i have to revert them to *.ps or
> *.eps. but the size of the files are increasing terribly. is this
> increase gimp-dependent ?? i know that gimp is pixel based !! maybe
> there is another better way to get small *.ps files ???
> 

You got it. Gimp is exporting to a bunch of pixels rather than nice
postscript shapes. there's no way to do better with GIMP. There may be
other programs that would be better for this. I'm forgeting the name but
there's one that can export to SVG that might do nice PS output.

--Ben




Re: Brush Size preview?

2000-06-14 Thread Ben Frantzdale



On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Relating to this I seem to have had trouble doing something as simple as 
> drawing one pixel at a time, it seems even the pen/pencil tool is not as 
> fine as one pixel.  Is there something I'm missing?

Yea... ctrl+shift+b to get the brush dialog then hit the one pixel brush
and use either the pencil or paintbrush.

--Ben

> 
> Thanks,
> Josh
> 
> 
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Robb Kidd wrote:
> 
> > Does the GIMP provide on option to replace the default pencil
> > pointer with a circle/shape representing the current brush size?  I'm
> > trying to make the switch to GIMP (or at least get up to speed with it)
> > and the "precision bursh" is a feature I've found very handy in my years
> > of working with Photoshop.
> > 
> > 
> 




Re: Can you please help me?

2000-06-13 Thread Ben Frantzdale

The gimp website is created with the Gimp, of course :-) The gimp is a
nice image manipulation program for unix, linux and even (to some
extent) windows.

I'd imagine the HTML for the page was done with vi or emacs but I wouldn't
know.


--Ben

On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
> I've visited your website Gimp. Can you kindly tell me what you make it 
> up with? What software... for example? Thanks very very mcuh!!
> 
> Annie
> 2000/6/12
> 




Re: Change Color

2000-05-27 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Garrett LeSage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2000 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: Change Color


> * Julien Mulot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000527 02:39]:
> > I want to change for example all the red color in my pic to blue color.
> > How can I do ?
>
> You can select (from the image's menu) > image > colors > hue-saturation.
>
> Using the HSV tool, you can click on the radio button closest to the color
> you wish to alter. From there, it's just a hue slider away from altering
> the color.
>
> Please note that this is a different effect from the color select method,
> and will produce different results. For some images, this method is more
> desirable; other images, the other.

You can also use both effects together, selecting all the red in a picture
with the color select tool, then using the hue/saturation tool to change all
the red in the image to blue, leaving everything else untoutched. There are
lots of possabilities.

--Ben




Re: making a transparent png

2000-05-20 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Ben Skelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 6:14 AM
Subject: making a transparent png


> Hi all
>
> I am having real trouble making transparent pngs. My lovely airbrushed art
is
> turned into ugly solid (opaque) colour when I save as a png. Is there a
> trick, or a RightWay, to make these things? Maybe I have some broken
> software, I am running gimp as per suse 6.4.

It depends on what your're using your images for. It sounds like you are
seeing your images in 1 bit transparencey rather than full transparency like
in GIMP. Is that correct? If it is correct, there isn't all that much you
can do about it.

If you are doing airbrushing on a transparent image and then viewing it with
a program that only supports 1 bit alpha then you'll have to add a
background layer and flatten the image in GIMP so that your airbrushing
shows up as a color gradient rather than an alpha gradient.

--Ben




Re: Just beginning

2000-05-05 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Ryan Alexander Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Leanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Gimp User Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: Just beginning


>
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2000, Leanne wrote:
>
> > I'm just starting to learn GIMP and I'm having trouble. Whenever I do
undo I
> > lose everything that I've done and end up with a checkered backgroup and
someone
> > please tell me what is happening?
> >
>
> Leanne,
> I am not an expert but I believe I can explain a few of your
> `events` :^)
> `undo` undoes stuff, gonzo!! So, very often as you are working hit
> the key combo ^S (control key, letter s combo) to save your work to the
> point you are presently at. Do not wait until you are finished to save
> your work.
> The `checkered backdrop` is the indication you are working with a
> transparent layer and when you `undo` or `erase` your work, well, what you
> are left with is just the now empty transparent layer.
> If you get into the habit of `saving` your work, the `undo` will
> only kill at most back to what you last saved.
> Hope this all is of some help.

Unless something has been changed, I think this is incorrect. In every
version of GIMP I've ever used, undo undoes only the most recent action. You
can hit undo more times to get more layers of undo but you'll still only be
undoing one action at a time. If you save along the way then there's a
revert option that will drop back to the saved version but that's certainly
not wat undo does.

--Ben




Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?

2000-04-23 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Robert B. Easter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:02 AM
Subject: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?


> Other image manipulation programs I've used let you see the x,y
coordinates
> where the mouse is.  When dragging to create a rectangle some will show
the
> x,y and the relative x,y of the start and the current mouse position in
the
> box being made.  With gimp, I can only see the rulers which don't
> give me exact coordinates.  Is there a way to add a status line to an
> editing window that will show the x,y coordinates?

The latest (unstable) versions have this feature.

> Robert B. Easter
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is your name really Easter? (if so, do I wish you a happy birthday or what?)




Re: Bezier lines

2000-04-19 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Victor Orlov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: Bezier lines


> Hi!
>
> By the way, does anybody know how to make a 1 pixel width line using
"stroke" command?
> It seems that even if I set my brush to 1x1 pixel  the result line will be
2 pixels
> width.
> One way is to make image twice as big and then resize it, but, probably
it's not the
> best way.
>

One solution is this: Working with an otherwise blank layer, do the stroke
then invert the selection and do ctrl+k to delete the ``outside'' half of
the stroked line. It's an ugly way to do it but it works (you can get
interesting effects using this with large airbrushes)  I too would like to
know if there's a way to do it ``right'' if not then perhaps a feature
request :-)

One other thing I've noticed about stroke is that if you are using a low
opacity on your brush, the starting point of the loop is darker (try it with
a rectangular selection) I assume this is because it's just drawing the path
so the starting point gets hit twice but it's a bit ugly.

--Ben

> alex wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Lars Burgstahler wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I know how to create shapes using the bezier tool. I also know how to
draw
> > > lines with the pen or brush.
> > > But is there also a way to draw a line with the bezier tool, using a
certain
> > > brush from the palette? I just want to draw an arc or a wave or
something
> > > similar. Making a bezier shape is quite painful for something like
that because
> > > it is difficult to get the same line width everywhere,
> >
> > Quick suggestions:
> > 1. Convert it to selection and use 'stroke' command ( not sure, but it
shuold be in
> > 'Selection' submenu. It fills selection with current brust.
> > 2. If you use unclosed path, try GFigure tools (if you have it, it
included at
> > least in 1.1.17 ver)
> >
> > Alex
> > --
> > // Only the fireborn understand blue.
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> > http://im.yahoo.com
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Victor.
>
>
> +
> To light a candle is to cast a shadow...
> +
>
>




Re: Painting cool icons

2000-04-07 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Ralf Gerlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gimp User Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Painting cool icons


> Hi!
> > > > I'm wondering how these really cool icons of KDE2 and GNOME are
painted.
> > > >
> > > > How could I do this?
> > > >
> > > > Pixel for Pixel or somehow else ?
> > > >
> >
> > Somehow else, mostly. Take a look at tigert's tutorials at
> > http://tigert.gimp.org That's where I learned.
>
> Cool. That's what I call a lesson!
>
> But how do I do e.g. a folder like the one tigert has for "Dull files"?
> I mean those light effects and the dark borders around the paper and the
> folder itself. I suppose there's a trick?

Several tricks: For outlines use edit->stroke and then touch up with shift +
click with the painbrush to draw streight lines. For things like a folder
with a back a front and paper, use a layer for each piece. For shading use a
gentle airbrush to highlight and shade with black and white paint.

Hope that helps.

--Ben

> Thx in advance,
> Ralf
>
> --
> Ralf Gerlich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Passionate programmer http://www.d-design.net/rgerlich/
>




Re: Painting cool icons

2000-04-05 Thread Ben FrantzDale

Amy wrote:
> 
> which icons, specifically?
> 
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Joachim Ansorg wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm wondering how these really cool icons of KDE2 and GNOME are painted.
> > 
> > How could I do this?
> > 
> > Pixel for Pixel or somehow else ?
> > 

Somehow else, mostly. Take a look at tigert's tutorials at 
http://tigert.gimp.org That's where I learned.

--Ben




Re: Download the gimp

2000-04-05 Thread Ben FrantzDale



> Hi all,
> I'm looking for a ftp site where I can found last gimp version in rpm
> format (1.1.19) and / or the daily CVS source in a tarball.
> Thank's for all

Try ftp.helixcode.com

--Ben




Re: Web logo problem - transparency/gradiant

2000-03-26 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Wandered Inn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: Web logo problem - transparency/gradiant


> Ben FrantzDale wrote:
> >
> > You should be able to save as png which is readable by newer browsers.
>
> You might want to define newer browsers.  Navigator 4.7 does not suport
> png transparency.

Good point. I wasn't thinking. The newer browsers can do pngs but no
tranparency on 'em yet.

--Ben

>  The
> > only other way would be to use a 256 color gif (255+transparency). You
could
> > try to use a jpg and get pixel perfect alignment with the background to
give
> > the illusion of tranparency but that will not work as well as it might
> > sound.
> >
> > --Ben
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: John S. Coxen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 4:13 PM
> > Subject: Web logo problem - transparency/gradiant
> >
> > > I'm trying to design a webpage logo - for my own page, nothing
> > professional.  I
> > > know exactly what I want it to look like but I can't seem to get there
> > from
> > > here.
> > >
> > > What I want to do is have a webpage background that is a gradient from
> > light to
> > > dark (running from left to right).  On top of that, I want to put the
> > domain
> > > name, bump mapped, beveled and drop shadowed (I can do without the
last,
> > if
> > > necessary) and having a gradient that runs from dark to light.  What I
> > want to
> > > end up with is dark text on light background transitioning into light
text
> > on
> > > dark background.
> > >
> > > I can get the webpage background gradiant (very easy) and the logo on
a
> > > transparent  background (not quite as easy but I figured it out).
What I
> > can't
> > > do is put the two together.  If I save the logo in a www-able format,
I
> > either
> > > lose the transparency (.jpg) or the color depth (.gif).
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me?  Preferably using words of 1 syllable or less -
> > definitely
> > > newbie level instructions required.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > --
> > > Do not meddle in the affairs of Systems Administrators for they are
subtle
> > and quick to anger.
> > >
>
> --
> Until later: Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I'm afraid there will be more problems with W2K than there were with
> Y2K...
>




Re: Web logo problem - transparency/gradiant

2000-03-26 Thread Ben FrantzDale

You should be able to save as png which is readable by newer browsers. The
only other way would be to use a 256 color gif (255+transparency). You could
try to use a jpg and get pixel perfect alignment with the background to give
the illusion of tranparency but that will not work as well as it might
sound.

--Ben

- Original Message -
From: John S. Coxen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 4:13 PM
Subject: Web logo problem - transparency/gradiant


> I'm trying to design a webpage logo - for my own page, nothing
professional.  I
> know exactly what I want it to look like but I can't seem to get there
from
> here.
>
> What I want to do is have a webpage background that is a gradient from
light to
> dark (running from left to right).  On top of that, I want to put the
domain
> name, bump mapped, beveled and drop shadowed (I can do without the last,
if
> necessary) and having a gradient that runs from dark to light.  What I
want to
> end up with is dark text on light background transitioning into light text
on
> dark background.
>
> I can get the webpage background gradiant (very easy) and the logo on a
> transparent  background (not quite as easy but I figured it out).  What I
can't
> do is put the two together.  If I save the logo in a www-able format, I
either
> lose the transparency (.jpg) or the color depth (.gif).
>
> Can anyone help me?  Preferably using words of 1 syllable or less -
definitely
> newbie level instructions required.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> --
> Do not meddle in the affairs of Systems Administrators for they are subtle
and quick to anger.
>




Making Themes

2000-03-07 Thread Ben FrantzDale

I have been using the Gimp to make GTK and Enlightenment themes. I'm
wondering if there is a way to resize selections where a border of given
width(s) remains the same size.

For those that don't know, when making a theme, for things like buttons you
give the image that is to be used along with a border This allows the button
to be resized leaving the bevel effect of the button the right size but
allowing the button to be resized to an arbitrary size.

Is there any way to do this without manually breaking up an image into nine
pieces and resizing each separately?

--Ben