Re: [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone with gimp

[Kevin Payne via gimp-user-list]

>From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of M.R.P. 
>zensky via gimp-user-list l...@gnome.org>
>Sent: 21 February 2021 21:06
>To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org 
>Subject: [Gimp-user] How to get a lighter neutral tone with gimp 
 
>Hello I am wanting to change the gimp default background to a lighter color 
>that is more natural. I did not care for the >default themes. What are my 
>options?

Creating your own theme is possible.

Here's an example of the mid-grey theme I created for myself: 
https://imgur.com/a/Zs3m8uZ
you're welcome to a copy of it.

I've modified one of the supplied themes, mostly separating out the colour 
definitions to make it easier to modify, although several of the UI elements 
are defined by images which need to be mangled manually.

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Python script

[kevin payne via gimp-user-list]

On 21 June 2018 at 10:32, Alexander V. Kalachev via gimp-user-list
 wrote:
> Dear list members,
>
> I wrote a script that adds an outline to the text. The script works as I 
> expected with on exception. When it finished, it removes all textual 
> information and converts the text into graphics. Could anyone give me an 
> advice how to modify the script in order to keep the textual information 
> unchanged? The script itself below.



You are stroking the path onto the Text layer, which will convert it
from text to raster. To keep the Test layer you will need to stroke
the path onto a new layer.
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimprc in 2.10

[Kevin Payne]

From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Maurizio 
Loreti 
>Hello -
>I installed gimp 2.10.0 on my iMac; and edited the related gimprc inserting 
>the two lines
>
>(default-snap-to-grid no)
>(default-snap-to-canvas yes)

>But these lines have no effect in 2.10 (but worked in 2.8).  What did I miss?  
>Where may I find the commands allowed in >gimprc?

You need to look for the system-wide gimprc, (mine is at  C:\Program Files\GIMP 
2.10\etc\gimp\2.0\gimprc)
In there you will find examples of all the things you can set.

I believe what you are try to set is now included as part of default-view and 
default-fullscreen-view :
# Sets the default settings for the image view.  This is a parameter list.
#
# (default-view
# (show-menubar yes)
# (show-statusbar yes)
# (show-rulers yes)
# (show-scrollbars yes)
# (show-selection yes)
# (show-layer-boundary yes)
# (show-guides yes)
# (show-grid no)
# (show-sample-points yes)
# (snap-to-guides yes)
# (snap-to-grid no)
# (snap-to-canvas no)
# (snap-to-path no)
# (padding-mode default)
# (padding-color (color-rgb 1.00 1.00 1.00)))

# Sets the default settings used when an image is viewed in fullscreen mode.
# This is a parameter list.
#
# (default-fullscreen-view
# (show-menubar yes)
# (show-statusbar yes)
# (show-rulers yes)
# (show-scrollbars yes)
# (show-selection yes)
# (show-layer-boundary yes)
# (show-guides yes)
# (show-grid no)
# (show-sample-points yes)
# (snap-to-guides yes)
# (snap-to-grid no)
# (snap-to-canvas no)
# (snap-to-path no)
# (padding-mode default)
# (padding-color (color-rgb 1.00 1.00 1.00)))

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Curious about GIMP-2.10 bugs on Windows

[Kevin Payne]

On 05/11/2018 09:06 AM, Elle Stone wrote:

> Are some/many/most of the problems being reported for GIMP-2.10 on
> Windows, only specific to Windows?
>
> Or are these bug reports by Windows users simply bugs that weren't
> detected by various people running GIMP-2.9/GIMP-2.10-rc/GIMP-2.10 on
> Linux?

I'd suggest that one of the reasons is the relative lack of availability of 
executables during the 2.9 development 
phase - self compilation not 
really being an option on Windows.

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Curious about GIMP-2.10 bugs on Windows

[Kevin Payne]

>That would explain a lot. Though people do manage to compile GIMP on
>Windows, it's apparently not easy to do.

>Partha's 2.9/2.10 builds for Windows have been available for a long time
>(https://www.partha.com/), without giving rise to nearly so many bug
>reports as the official release of 2.10. But maybe most Windows users
>don't know about Partha's builds.

The problem with Partha's builds is that he changes things to suit himself and 
therefore it's not a reliable reference for creating bug-reports against.

A case in point is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795855 which 
apparently Partha's build isn't suffering from: 
https://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-opening-from-and-saving-to-local-folders?pid=8074#pid8074

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Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue

[Kevin Payne]

And Alex explained why this is happening a month ago: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-user-list@gnome.org/msg13187.html


Kevin


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of ugajin 

Sent: 10 April 2018 16:12
To: Carol Spears
Cc: Andrew; gimp
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Mailing list issue


I too, often receive  bursts of 'late' messages but today[April 10, 2018] is 
exceptional. I had 100 messages waiting in my inbox. The earliest of which is 
dated March 15, 2018 with the subject line 'How to print'. Ironically, this is 
dated the same as yours!

-u

 On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 01:33:42 + Carol 
Spearscarol.spe...@gmail.com wrote 

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:48 AM, Andrew 
andrew.alangdondavies...@smtp.gnome.org wrote:

 On 13/03/18 07:16, Ben Oliver wrote:

 Every now and then I get a burst of mail from this list all at once, 
some
 of which can be 3-5 days old. I don't think they are duplicates.

 Does anyone else have this issue?


 Happens to me too. Pretty sure they're not duplicates.


I made their web site install by just typing "make", basically. So now I
wonder if it is a clog in the approval filter which is perhaps on
someones phone *or* someone needs to type make somewhere

carol
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Re: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

[Kevin Payne]

>1) You don't don't believe adding an option for a larger font size to the base
>product as part of the default install, is a high enough priority relative to
>the backlog to merit near term consideration?   Anecdotally there seem to be a
>lot of requests for it.  Please consider this is not a convenience, or a time
>saving feature.  A significant amount of users are simply not functional with 
>an
>8pt font.

With my larger themes for 2.8 I was asked to NOT set the font by some users 
because the operating system/window manager is setting the font independently 
of GIMP. I believe the same is true of the 2.9 themes, where the font-size 
setting is present but commented out of the gtkrc files.

So the way forward is a small piece of documentation to explain how to edit the 
theme gtkrc file for those users who need to change it.

>3)  The thread I refer to is the current one for this message.  In case you are
>following from a mailing list the URL is
>http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/18002-change-the-ui-size.

 Ah - you have that backwards. The web-site you refer to (gimpusers.com) has 
parasitically attached itself to the gimp-user mailing list and is not the 
source of the messages.

regards

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Does GIMP have automated macro / batch processing?

[Kevin Payne]

>Could you (or any kind-hearted individual) provide any idea or
>feedback about http://gimpchat.com ?

I would certainly recommend you post your requirement at GimpChat as there are 
a few people there who could create the script you require.


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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.9.4 Release-Icons

[Kevin Payne]

From: gimp-user-list [gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org] on behalf of Rick 
Strong [rnstr...@primus.ca]
Sent: 10 January 2017 22:48
To: GIMP User List
Subject: [Gimp-user] 2.9.4 Release-Icons

I have V. 2.8.16. Reading about GIMP 2.9.4 I am wondering if I will still be 
able to use my Color-32 icon theme?

Rick S.
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No you won't be able to use Color-32 as it's a full theme not an icon theme.

Also, unless some work has been done to allow for users to select larger icons, 
GIMP's use of the icon-theme mechanisn will prevent you from having larger 
icons.

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] HiDPI Displays

[Kevin Payne]

I'd recommend trying one of the themes from here: 
http://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-GIMP-2-8-Large-size-Icons-Themes

GIMP 2.8 Large size Icons 
Themes<http://www.gimp-forum.net/Thread-GIMP-2-8-Large-size-Icons-Themes>
www.gimp-forum.net
This is a thread to support a couple of larger icon GIMP 2.8 themes. The 32x32 
Symbolic theme is here: https://bitbucket.org/paynekj/paynekj-gi...-Big-32.7z 
The 32x32 Colour Theme is here: https://bit




Kevin




From: Praveen Baratam <praveen.bara...@gmail.com>
Sent: 29 December 2016 18:56
To: Kevin Payne
Cc: GIMP Users
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HiDPI Displays

Hello Kevin,

Thank you for responding.

My GIMP Version 2.8.16

The gimp-hidpi theme I tried using was from 
https://github.com/jedireza/gimp-hidpi
[https://avatars0.githubusercontent.com/u/979929?v=3=400]<https://github.com/jedireza/gimp-hidpi>

GitHub - jedireza/gimp-hidpi: A theme for HiDPI 
displays<https://github.com/jedireza/gimp-hidpi>
github.com
README.md Gimp HiDPI. A theme to for HiDPI displays (Macbook Pro Retina / X1 
Carbon). I am (at the time of writing) running Gnome 3.18 and Gimp 2.8.


This is how it looks when I install it as per the github readme -

[Inline image 1]
[https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=acHJhdmVlbi5iYXJhdGFtQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D=zerocontent=cbc72511-f3d7-4840-93df-6f321bc7551d]?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Kevin Payne 
<payn...@hotmail.com<mailto:payn...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
From: gimp-user-list 
<gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org<mailto:gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org>> on 
behalf of Praveen Baratam 
<praveen.bara...@gmail.com<mailto:praveen.bara...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 27 December 2016 08:20
To: GIMP Users
Subject: [Gimp-user] HiDPI Displays

Hello everyone,

I am trying to use GIMP 2.8 on Windows 10 with HiDPI display (XPS 13
Infinity Display - 3200x1800). GIMP has been my long term work horse but
now its almost unusable. I tried installing the gimp-hidpi theme also but
it is broken on Windows.

Please help.

Thank you.

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Which exact version of GIMP are you using (2.8.???) and where did you get this 
so-called gimp-hidpi theme?

Kevin



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Re: [Gimp-user] HiDPI Displays

[Kevin Payne]

From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Praveen 
Baratam 
Sent: 27 December 2016 08:20
To: GIMP Users
Subject: [Gimp-user] HiDPI Displays

Hello everyone,

I am trying to use GIMP 2.8 on Windows 10 with HiDPI display (XPS 13
Infinity Display - 3200x1800). GIMP has been my long term work horse but
now its almost unusable. I tried installing the gimp-hidpi theme also but
it is broken on Windows.

Please help.

Thank you.

--
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Which exact version of GIMP are you using (2.8.???) and where did you get this 
so-called gimp-hidpi theme?

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Custom Script UI

[Kevin Payne]

>What, you mean with no "PF-XXX" parameters? Yeah, I got that much as I've made
>scripts with both no UI and the built-in UI before. I'm rather certain it still
>wants you to use their UI, though.

>Even if that's all it took, there's still the issue of gimp using a watered 
>down
>Python 2.7.5, which I'm not sure how to add normal modules to. I assume Kivy's
>pretty much out of the question, but TkInter's normally built in to python,
>except with gimp a number of base modules, including TkInter, aren't present
.anymore.

As you say TkInter isn't in the GIMP supplied Python (which is a pity as it 
uses native file browsers instead of the GTK abomination), but you can use 
PyGTK, which you should be able to understand quite readily as you have TkInter 
experience.

Here's a relatively simple PyGTK GIMP plug-in I wrote some time ago: 
https://bitbucket.org/paynekj/paynekj-gimp-scripts/src/2e8e87faf5eaaf6036e0d8b68ff9f6f37a3f0421/plug-ins/pygtk_add_multiple_guides.py?at=default

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] set layer name

[Kevin Payne]

You got an answer when you asked the question on GimpForums: 
http://gimpforums.com/thread-set-layer-name


Kevin


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of jbmorrison 

Sent: 02 August 2016 23:19
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] set layer name

Hi.

I'm putting together a very simple python-fu script that will load three png's
as layers, set the names of the layers to something other than the file name,
and then export the whole thing as a PSD.

I've found most of the api calls I need to make, but I'm not able to find a way
to set the layer names.  Am I missing something or am I going about this the
wrong way.

If this has already been answered, please point me to the threads.

Thanks
John Morrison

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Re: [Gimp-user] small icons and display

[Kevin Payne]

If you are using GIMP 2.8, you might try this: 
http://gimpforums.com/thread-large-size-icons-themes

Kevin 



From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of 
eric.clif...@esaconstruction.com 
Sent: 31 May 2016 17:04
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] small icons and display

I have a 4k computer and the icons and menus are real tiny.  I tried going
into preferences and cannot seem to change the icon and menu sizes.  Is this
even possible with a 4k computer with windows 10?



Eric Clifton

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP, .pdf, and threshold

[Kevin Payne]

My initial guess would be that your image mode is Indexed.

Check Image>>Mode and make sure it is set to RGB after importing the images.

Kevin



From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of 
m.r...@5-cent.us 
Sent: 11 April 2016 15:40
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP, .pdf, and threshold

Hi, folks,

   I'm running CentOS 6.7, and the most current GIMP for that, 2.6.9-8. A
friend, half a continent away, is scanning parts of a number of old
'zines for me. From that, The originals were printed on colored
paper

I want to do OCR. On a couple of .pdfs, one I d/l from the 'Net, and
one from a different scanner, I import it into GIMP as images (we're
talking 16-20pp), and, page by page, push the contrast to max, cut the
brightness to half or less of what it was, then pull up threshold, and
the preview shows me black text on white, and saving it that way,
tesseract works just fine.

   Doing that with these scans, nada. No useful changes, and threshold
does nothing.

   Clues for the poor?

mark

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Re: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

[Kevin Payne]

Jehan: re font-size

  The font size can be controlled by the theme, but to judge from this post, 
there may be some operating system/window manager effects as well:
http://gimpforums.com/thread-new-default-double-theme-for-uhd-4k-sp4?pid=47087#pid47087
  
  Maybe it's seeing "14 point" and deciding that as it's a high dpi screen, it 
needs to be drawn bigger. I also don't have a high dpi monitor so this is all 
speculation.

Kevin


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Jehan 
Pagès 
Sent: 01 April 2016 19:20
To: DAWO
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org; notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

Hi,

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 9:49 AM, DAWO  wrote:
>
>>
>>BUT - you're using a GIMP 2.9.? version? If you have the option in
>>your Edit>>Preferences>>Icon Theme, then the theme you have downloaded
>>is not going to work.
>
> Thanks again, Kevin!
>
> The version I downloaded and installed, is 2.8.16, so I will go ahead and try
> your icons. It seems that this is a problem for others as well which a quick
> search with Google verified. And I think it should be one of the most
> prioritized issues for the Gimp developer community as it “accessibility”
> defines who can use the software, and who cannot.2

I agree, since I am working on the icon size customization (the
"future plans" Kevin told about earlier). Though I must say it's not
easy to prioritize and see what others are going through because I
don't have access to any HiDPI screen, not even to test, even less for
my own daily use.

I have also a question, about when you say that text is also too
small. From what I understood, GIMP should simply follow whatever text
size settings your operating system is configured with. Are you saying
that font size is bigger everywhere else but not in GIMP? I think this
should not happen (but once again, I can hardly test myself without
such a screen).
Thanks.

Jehan

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Re: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

[Kevin Payne]

Dag,

  Sorry I haven't explained in more detail what to do with the .7z files.

  Yes, you need to put the Color-48 folder (containing all the subfolders) into 
your personal GIMP profile Themes folder (C:\Users\Dag\.gimp-2.8\Themes).

  BUT - you're using a GIMP 2.9.? version? If you have the option in your 
Edit>>Preferences>>Icon Theme, then the theme you have downloaded is not going 
to work.

  With 2.9.3.???, Icon Themes now control which icons you get BUT the theme 
controls which size icons, and as far as I know, no-one has made a suitable 
pair that specify and supply larger size icons. Quite frankly, it's a mess at 
the moment.

Kevin 


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of DAWO 

Sent: 26 March 2016 10:58
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Cc: notificati...@gimpusers.com
Subject: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

>There are future plans to allow users to allow easier control over the
>icon sizes etc, but at the moment it can be done using add-on themes.
>
>You will find links to some themes that I have made that use bigger
>icons (either 32x32 or 48x48) that others have found useful here:
>http://gimpforums.com/thread-large-size-icons-themes
>
>Kevin

Thank you very much, Kevin!

It might be a good idea, for users like me, to explain how to go about
installing the theme. As I did not realize that these were zipped files, I
started off by just putting the downloaded color theme and symbolic theme files
in what I thought would be the right folder, but, understandably nothing
happened. I then did a search on the file suffix in order to find out that they
were 7zip-files. I have now downloaded and instlled 7zip, and unzipped the files
and I now have a folder named "Color-48" with several subfolders and files in
it, but I am uncertain what to do? Should I place the WHOLE folder as it is in
the Themes folder? Or just some of the files? And on my Windows 10 PC, I found
one Gimp Themes folder in "C-> User-> Dag -> .gim-2.9-> themes" would that be
the correct folder?

Regards,

Dag

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Re: [Gimp-user] Cloning tool

[Kevin Payne]

Yes there is a clone tool in GIMP. Here is the documentation about it: 
http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-tool-clone.html

Kevin


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Sent: 25 March 2016 21:02
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Subject: [Gimp-user] Cloning tool

I am currently contemplating the installation of GIMP.  I do not have it
downloaded yet.  I am wondering if GIMP contains a "cloning tool" similar to the
"stamp" tool in Photoshop.  I use this tool extensively and would like to have
it available to me in GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

[Kevin Payne]

There are future plans to allow users to allow easier control over the icon 
sizes etc, but at the moment it can be done using add-on themes.

You will find links to some themes that I have made that use bigger icons 
(either 32x32 or 48x48) that others have found useful here:
http://gimpforums.com/thread-large-size-icons-themes

Kevin



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Sent: 25 March 2016 09:57
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Subject: [Gimp-user] Change the UI size?

Hi,

I have just dowloaded Gimp 2.8.16 and installed it on my Windows 10 - 64 bit PC.
However, the user interface with all the icons and texts are too small for me
and it is very hard to read what is on the screen. My monitor size is 3440 X
1440. Of course I can change the size of everything on the screen by using the
Display settings in Windows 10 and set the slider to, say, 150%. But then ALL
applications and windows on the screen get bigger, even if I do not want them
to.

Is there a way to customize the size of textlabels, toobars, icons etc in the
user interface of GIMP?

Thanks!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Color of fonts of context help

[Kevin Payne]

The theme can change the colours of the tooltips, BUT the GIMP Default and 
Small themes do not do this, so the colour is being set by your operating 
system/window manager.

On Windows 8.1, I can change the desktop theme and it will change the 
background colour of the tooltips (but not the text colour)

You haven't said which operating system you are using and what the desktop 
theme colours are.

Kevin 



From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of gm40 

Sent: 20 March 2016 23:15
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Subject: [Gimp-user] Color of fonts of context help

>I noticed by clicking through the themes I have installed that some do
>not change the colors of the pop-ups, and others do. Can you name the
>different themes you've tried?
Default
Gimp-CS6-theme
Small
>If the theme isn't changing it, it will get the color information from
>you OS desktop theme. Have you changed that recently?
Yes, I went through numerous themes without success. In fact the desktop
tooltips seem to be alright (white on black) if I can go by what it is in a
terminal window. All other programs except 'audacity' show readable tooltips. So
I get the impression the tooltip configuration is set by each program.
>Just to rule it out, you should try a different desktop theme and see
>if
>it changes.

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Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu vs script-fu

[Kevin Payne]

How much extra time are you seeing with the Python dialog? 

Here on a Windows 7 machine, I can't be sure I'm seeing any difference, so it 
must be less than 0.5 seconds.

Kevin 


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of 
uga...@talktalk.net 
Sent: 23 March 2016 10:22
To: ofn...@gmx.com; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu vs script-fu

Intersting idea, but running Python interactively before launching GIMP
does not seem to make a noticeable  difference.

Thanks.

>Original Message
>From: ofn...@gmx.com
>Date: 22/03/2016 21:04
>To: 
>Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu vs script-fu
>
>On 22/03/16 21:34, Kevin Cozens wrote:
>> On 16-03-22 03:04 PM, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:
>>> I don't see the difference to be about efficiency. There is
noticeable
>>> lag when executing python-fu.
>>
>> Script-Fu is always loaded in memory when GIMP starts. For Python
>> scripts the Python interpreter must be loaded before it can run the
>> script. The times it takes to load the Python interepreter would be
>> the lag you are talking about.
>>
>
>Possible. I don't experience such lags but then on a Linux system
there
>is always a Python script running somewhere so the interpreter is
>already loaded, and it's only a matter of initializing a new
instance.
>But then on OSX I would expect the interpreter to be kept in the IO
>buffers, so the lag would be noticeable only on the first execution.
A
>good test would be to start an interactive python session before
>starting Gimp, keep it open while Gimp runs and see if the lag
remains.
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Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu vs script-fu

[Kevin Payne]

As you haven't provided a link to Akkana's script, we have no way to compare if 
the scripts are even remotely similar.

My experience with writing a script in Scheme, then converting it to Python was 
that it runs considerably faster in Python, so I think it's as Ofnuts says, 
it's entirely dependent on what you are trying to do.

Kevin 


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of 
uga...@talktalk.net 
Sent: 22 March 2016 19:04
To: ofn...@gmx.com; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu vs script-fu

I don't see the difference to be about efficiency. There is noticeable
lag when executing python-fu.

E.g., when I run Akkana Peck's show_py_ui.py plugin, and compare this
with GIMP.org's test-sphere.scm script there is a big difference in
performance up to launcing the UI. I note show_py_ui.py is a smaller
file size, 3kb compared to test-sphere.scm's 6kb (12kb inc comments).

Is it just me on pre-build OSX?

Thanks.

-u


>Original Message
>From: ofn...@gmx.com
>Date: 22/03/2016 16:34
>To: 
>Subj: Re: [Gimp-user] python-fu vs script-fu
>
>On 22/03/16 12:27, uga...@talktalk.net wrote:
>> Is there a known performance issue for python-fu compared with
script-
>> fu?
>>
>> I have a pair of comparable scripts, and I find python-fu to be
>> noticeably lagged.
>>
>> I am running 2.8.16 on OSX.
>>
>> -u
>>
>
>A script is normally just glue around operations carried out by Gimp,
so
>the efficiency of the script language is normally fairly irrelevant.
>
>But different scripts could be using different operations for
equivalent
>results, one set of operations being more efficient...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scheme - image ID

[Kevin Payne]

I'm puzzled what you're trying to do because it seems you're going about this 
backwards.

You would usually know the item ID because you know which image it's associated 
with, so wouldn't need to find the image that the item is associated with.

For example to get a layer-id, you'd have to know which image it's in, using: 
gimp-image-get-active-layer

Kevin 


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of 
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Sent: 12 March 2016 19:20
To: uga...@talktalk.net; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scheme - image ID

I found the answer. Not sure why it wasn't working when I first tried
it.

Still don't know how to get the item id as required by (gimp-item-get-
image item) function.

-u


>Original Message
>From: uga...@talktalk.net
>Date: 12/03/2016 18:04
>To: 
>Subj: [Gimp-user] Scheme - image ID
>
>I would likke to find the image ID from a Scheme script.
>
>(gimp-image-list) run in the Scheme console returns e.g. (1 #(5)) so
I
>know from this that the image-id is 5, but if I have multiple docs
open
>I may get the return value (2 #(8 5)). So how do I find and pass the
>correct image ID to a Scheme variable inside a script? E.g. (let* (
>(img (cadr(gimp-image-list))) ) img ) now returns #(8 5).
>
>I believe the function needed may be (gimp-item-get-image item), but
>how do I find the item-ID and assign it to a variable?
>
>Any help is appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>-u
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-drawable-curves-spline

[Kevin Payne]

If you use the procedure-browser  (at GIMP menu  Help>>Procedure Browser) it 
shows the parameters required (which appear to be mostly the same, other than 
the control points have changed from being INT to FLOAT)

Kevin

Question for developers: Can you please make it possible to copy the text in 
the Procedure Browser for situations such as these. 


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Maurizio 
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Sent: 24 February 2016 15:16
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] gimp-drawable-curves-spline

Hello -
I am using GIMP 2.9.3 from Partha’s Place, on a Mac running OS X; from time to 
time I use a scheme plugin found in the gimpfx-foundry distribution 
(http://gimpfx-foundry.sourceforge.net) called "salonen-vivid-saturation.scm”.  
And, yes, I understand that gimpfx-foundry is unmaintained since ?2008? - 
however that scheme procedure has always worked well for me up to GIMP 2.8.

With GIMP 2.9 I get al alert saying that gimp-curves-spline (called from line 
63 in the .scm procedure) is obsolete, and replaced now by 
gimp-drawable-curves-spline.  The procedure however works; but I know some 
scheme and I would like to edit the .scm file in order to call 
gimp-drawable-curves-spline - but I cannot find on the Internet the synopsis 
for that new function.

The synopsis for the old one is:  gimp-curves-spline (drawable, channel, 
num_points, control_pts)

Can some kind soul tell me how gimp-drawable-curves-spline must be called?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where are the plug-ins?

[Kevin Payne]

It's all still there, just click-through on "see the glossary": 
http://registry.gimp.org/glossary/a

Kevin


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Dennis G. 
Wicks 
Sent: 10 February 2016 22:00
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] Where are the plug-ins?

The plug-in registry seems to be locked/trashed/kaput whatever.

Is there any place that I can download plug-ins
now? Or am I just out of luck?

Many TIA!
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Re: [Gimp-user] [off-topic] how to register on gimpchat.com

[Kevin Payne]

I've posted a message asking for support on your behalf: 
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=13=13635

Kevin

From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Helmut 
Jarausch 
Sent: 05 February 2016 10:33
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: [Gimp-user] [off-topic] how to register on gimpchat.com

Hi,
sorry for the noise.

I can't register for the gimpchat forum since I've never received the 
confirmation email. I have requested it several times without success.
I am on Linux and log ANY incoming mail (even if classified as SPAM).

Many thanks for you help,
Helmut

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Re: [Gimp-user] Hiding tabs

[Kevin Payne]

> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Greg Chapman wrote:
>
>> button and the menu option: Tab style > Option > Icon
>
> Which is the default value, no? :)
>
> Alex

No. The default appears to be "Automatic" and hence the text is displayed when 
there is space to do so.

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Save and automatically apply a series of editing steps

[Kevin Payne]

 Yes it is possible to automate a sequence of steps, BUT it's a programmatic 
solution - you have to write scripts in Scheme, Python or maybe Perl.

At present (in 2.8.x) the support for scripts is firmly based around low 
bit-depth. I was asking if the API has been updated to incorporate the high-bit 
depth features (and all the GEGL operations), but perhaps that question (and 
the multitude of associated questions) would be better placed on the developers 
mailing list.

Kevin

From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Elle Stone 

Sent: 07 December 2015 16:14
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save and automatically apply a series of editing steps

>> I'd like to be able to open an image file in GIMP (GIMP 2.9, not sure if
>> the version makes a difference) and have a series of editing steps
>> performed automatically.

If I were asking this question just for myself, I'd probably assume that
figuring out "how to" is too much trouble.

However, in addition to my own interest in being able to automate
applying a series of editing steps, recently two other people have sent
me emails asking the same question.

Both of these people are new to GIMP and using my patched version GIMP
2.9 from git. They both seem to like high bit depth GIMP quite a lot.
And both of them are looking for ways to automate steps for faster
throughput when there are a lot of images to edit all at once.

I'm in a total state of confusion as to what Pat's and Kevin's answers
actually mean in practical "how to" terms, so my apologies but I'll try
asking again:

Is it possible right now for users to automate a series of editing steps
in high bit depth GIMP? If yes, is there a guide somewhere? Will the
resulting images be high bit depth images or only 8-bit images?

Best regards,
Elle

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Re: [Gimp-user] Plugin for copying mouse coordinates to clipboard

[Kevin Payne]

From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Alexandre 
Prokoudine 
Sent: 06 December 2015 22:06
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Plugin for copying mouse coordinates to clipboard

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Ofnuts wrote:

>>> So yes, theoretically it would be entirely possible to make as many
>>> sample points as needed, then run a script that would export positions
>>> of all sample points to something like CSV. For this to happen,
>>> someone will have to:
>>>
>>> 1) adjust UI to allow for more sample points;
>>> 2) write PDB API;
>>> 3) write a script to access sample points via PDB API and export their
>>> positions.
>>>
>>> Volunteers are more than just welcome.
>>
>> Actually, Kevin is just asking for item #2 :)

>Wouldn't make a huge difference without #1 :)

>Alex

My apologies for appearing to be ranting (again)

Ofnuts is right about what I was asking for, and I beg to differ about the 
number of sample points.

I've raised a bugzilla: 759104 and given a couple of examples of use-cases, 
which use one and two sample points.

Kevin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Save and automatically apply a series of editing steps

[Kevin Payne]

That then begs the question: Have any of the changes in 2.9.2 been reflected in 
updates to the pdb calls for scripting? And if so, how are the fixed 0-255 
ranges being handled?


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Pat David 

Sent: 06 December 2015 17:42
To: Elle Stone; gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save and automatically apply a series of editing   
steps

Unfortunately no, no short version of pushing buttons (yet).

Script-fu or Python are probably the best bet at the moment? At least
there's a script fu console and the pdb to reference while building out a
script...
On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 6:35 AM Elle Stone 
wrote:

> I'd like to be able to open an image file in GIMP (GIMP 2.9, not sure if
> the version makes a difference) and have a series of editing steps
> performed automatically.
>
> I found the following tutorial:
> https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Automate_Editing_in_GIMP/
>
> That's a long, complicated tutorial (probably how people feel when they
> read some of the articles on my website :) ).
>
> Is there a short "push these buttons" version of how to save and then
> automatically apply a series of editing steps?
>
> Best,
> Elle
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Re: [Gimp-user] Plugin for copying mouse coordinates to clipboard

[Kevin Payne]

As GIMP's built-in mechanism for picking points (Sample points) is completely 
unscriptable (WHY ), I'd imagine creating a new, small layer consisting of 
some crosshairs, then having the user move that layer to the desired location 
and using a script to get that location.

Kevin


From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Ofnuts 

Sent: 05 December 2015 21:01
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Plugin for copying mouse coordinates to clipboard

On 05/12/15 19:13, Hugo M wrote:
> I need a plugin for copying image coordinates to clipboard when I click a
> point in an image. This is because I need to manually copy some coordinates
> of some points in images, but I'd really like to just click a point and
> then the coordinates are copied into the clipboard. That will really boost
> my productivity in this task.
>
> If there is no plugin to do something like that, I'd appreciate any clue of
> how to create that plugin.

A completely different way of doing it, but possibly just as efficient:
use the path editor, making an anchor on each point for which you want
to export the coordinates, then use my path-csv script to export the
path (ie, all the points in one go) to a CSV file:


Doc: http://gimp-path-tools.sourceforge.net/tools.shtml#path-csv
Download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimp-path-tools/files/scripts/path-csv-0.1.py/download
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Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP

[Kevin Payne]

According to the current documentation,  Tcl is still available!: 
http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-concepts-script-fu.html

Sadly I don't think it's true, and the TkInter support didn't get included in 
the bundled Python, so we can't have the native file-open dialog and have to 
use the GTK abomination.

Kevin 



 Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 12:48:40 +0300
 From: alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Comments on GIMP
 
 On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Ofnuts ofn...@gmx.com wrote:
  On 09/08/15 02:28, Kevin Cozens wrote:
 
  On 15-08-08 12:11 PM, Ofnuts wrote:
 
  Which of the two scripting languages are you talking about?
 
 
  Two? There are four. Two of the four see the most use.
 
 
  Two of the four are also available out of the box. I know about Perl, what
  is the fourth one? (C doesn't count as a scripting language)
 
 https://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp-ruby
 
 Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)

[Kevin Payne]

Did you attempt to attach an image? The mailing list doesn't support 
attachments so you will have to put it somewhere and then send us a link.

Kevin

 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:05:15 -0500
 From: wzur...@gmail.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] (no subject)
 
 Can anyone tell me how I could do this using Gimp? Rather new to Gimp, so
 may need detailed instructions!! Thank you
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Re: [Gimp-user] Problems Actually Starting/Launching Gimp

[Kevin Payne]

Adam

  You need to ignore the unhelpful torrent download link and instead use the 
link where it says: If the torrent download doesn't work, you can also follow 
this link:

http://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.8/windows/gimp-2.8.14-setup-1.exe

Kevin

 From: adam.kinshas...@hotmail.co.uk
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:04:25 +
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Problems Actually Starting/Launching Gimp
 
 Hello Gimp Users,
 
 I have a Lenovo , Windows 8 laptop. I use Mozilla Firefox as my browser.
 
 I have downloaded the gimp-2.8.14-setup-1.exe.torrent file , but when I try 
 to run this file, I am asked which application I want to open Gimp with (EG 
 Mozilla Firefox etc...)
 
 Does anyone know how to get around this and how to install and run Gimp 
 please ?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Adam
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP and GEGL in 2014

[Kevin Payne]

 Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:33:47 +0100
 From: ciam...@libero.it
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP and GEGL in 2014
 
 On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 03:01:36PM +0100, Maurizio Loreti wrote:
  Two questions: will the new GIMP support high-resolution displays (e.g.
  Retina on Macs)?
 
 High resulution screens are just, high resolution screens. They does not
 need any special support. Or I have not understood the question.
 
 -- 
 
 
 Marco Ciampa
 

But high resolution displays do require suitable themes and currently GIMP is 
slightly broken in that regard: 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739469


  
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I download Gimp?

[Kevin Payne]

If I had to guess then I would say you have clicked on the link on gimp.org 
that says updated 2.8.14 installer This is pointing to a torrent for the 
installer. If, like most people, you don't know what a torrent is, then try 
clicking where it says http instead and this will get you the executable for 
the installer directly.

Kevin 

Kevin 



 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:25:06 +0100
 From: cvond...@gmail.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] How do I download Gimp?
 
 Hello,
 
 I can´t download Gimp. I already called the helpdesk of my firewall: No
 result. I called my internetprovider: No result.
 
 What´s wrong?
 
 Caroline Dormans
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Re: [Gimp-user] edited files wont play on tv

[Kevin Payne]

There's a good possibility that your problem is the same as many other people 
have seen with displaying GIMP 2.8.n edited .jpgs - the JPEG progressive mode:

When exporting a JPEG, click to show Advanced Options and un-check 
Progressive.

Kevin 



 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 05:49:54 +0200
 From: for...@gimpusers.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 CC: notificati...@gimpusers.com
 Subject: [Gimp-user] edited files wont play on tv
 
 * SteveMe for...@gimpusers.com [08-31-14 22:34]:
 What is the extra information?
 Not w/o more information.  A stab in the dark, try removing the
 meta-data
 from your jpgs.  
 
 ps:  you might google your tv's to see what manner of jpg they accept.
 My Vizio's accept jpg's from gimp w/o alteration as does both of my
 samsung android phones and an ipad and a kindle tablet.  ???
 
 I am not sure exactly what exactly this additional information is. I got 
 this
 from the last comment at
 https://community.sony.co.uk/t5/televisions/kdl-32ex403u-playback-not-available-some-photos/m-p/190619
 I am not sure how true this is.
 
 I tried removing the metadata but this seems to have no effect.
 
 Steve
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP keeps crashing

[Kevin Payne]

Let's get the obligatory questions out of the way:

What operating system?
Which version of GIMP?  (2.6.7,  2.8.10 etc)
What size of images?

Kevin 

 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 02:12:36 -0800
 From: sirir...@yahoo.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] GIMP keeps crashing
 
 I am first time user of GIMP and was looking forward to try it out. However 
 after couple of seconds GIMP keeps crashing on me when I start editing 
 photos. I have been trying a photo several times and am getting frustrated 
 when it dies on me in the last step of my editing process. Can someone please 
 advice as to what is wrong with the software?
 
 Thanks

  
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Re: [Gimp-user] color proofing / printing -- profiles not applied when printing? gutenprint plugin

[Kevin Payne]

I suggest you have a look at what Rolf did getting a profile specific to the 
printer/ink/paper:
http://blog.meetthegimp.org/episode-185-the-52-02-error-printing-with-profiles/

Kevin



 What I don't understand is this:
 I have physical prints from cone color on Epson premium glossy photo paper,
 printed with conecolor k3 inks which were designed specifically to be a 
 very close match for epson ultrachrome k3 inks.
 Regardless of what the image looks like on screen,
 if I import the image and keep its embedded profile,
 then print it using the appropriate profile for the printer + paper + ink,
 I should get an image that closely matches the professionally supplied
 one.
 I'm not; it's got too much yellow in the skin tones.
 
 In the gutenprint print dialog, under the Output tab, by default it has
 the following settings:
   Color Correction:  Default
   Image Type:Mixed Text and Graphics
 I set Image Type to Photograph, but left Color Correction alone.
 
 If I set Color Correction to High Accuracy I see no difference.
 
 Gary
 

  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Can't Find feather_paste Plug-in

[Kevin Payne]

Can I suggest we take this problem over to one of the GIMP forums, where it's 
possible to add attachments and show pictures: for example gimpchat.com

Kevin




 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 06:26:22 +0100
 From: for...@gimpusers.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 CC: t...@gimpusers.com
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Can't Find feather_paste Plug-in
 
 Yes, I do have the entry FiltersPython-FuConsole
 
 Joe
 
 As no-one had asked the question up to now I was going to ask which
 version of GIMP you have installed, but this post tells me that you
 have a 2.8.? version, so the presumption is that Python support gets
 installed automatically (and isn't an installation option)
 
 Do you have the following menu entry:  FiltersPython-FuConsole  ?
 
 Kevin
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Can't find feather_paste.py in GIMP

[Kevin Payne]

As no-one had asked the question up to now I was going to ask which version of 
GIMP you have installed, but this post tells me that you have a 2.8.? version, 
so the presumption is that Python support gets installed automatically (and 
isn't an installation option)

Do you have the following menu entry:  FiltersPython-FuConsole  ?

Kevin 




 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:09:25 +0100
 From: for...@gimpusers.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 CC: t...@gimpusers.com
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Can't find feather_paste.py in GIMP
 
 Among other places, I've put the file in: 
 C:\Users\Joe J\.gimp-2.8\plug-ins and 
 C:\Users\Joe J\.gimp-2.8\scripts
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Script Fu and Shadow

[Kevin Payne]

Can I suggest taking this request for help over to one of the active GIMP 
forums: gimpchat.com  or gimpforums.com as there's plenty of people who are 
willing and experienced with helping with a vague request for help like this.

Kevin



 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 01:13:36 +0200
 From: schum...@gmx.de
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Script Fu and Shadow
 
 
 This has been caught by the mailing list content filter (probably
 because the message has been composed in Microsoft Word), so I'm
 forwarding it to the list as plain text.
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  Script Fu and Shadow
 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:39:24 +
 From: Sloan, Jamie jasl...@k12.com
 To:   gimp-user-list@gnome.org gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 
 
 
 I am using GIMP in my Image Design  Editing Class and there are a LOT
 of “bugs” I don’t know how to fix because I am not familiar enough with
 the Program.
 
 Can you help me with why my kids can’t access the Script Fu and the
 Shadow Box!? I know this is vague…I just know SO little of this program.
 Can you help? J
 
 
 
 *Jamie L. Sloan **J***
 
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 IHS PreAlgebra/Algebra 1 Instructor
 
 580-919-3339
 
 jasl...@k12.com mailto:jasl...@k12.com
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Layer Opacity Access Point(s) Madness

[Kevin Payne]

I think I've deciphered  your request and please correct me if I'm wrong 
(preferably in a concise way), but you are saying that you don't have an 
Opacity slider in your Layers dialog? 
http://docs.gimp.org/2.8/en/gimp-dialogs-structure.html#gimp-layer-dialog

You've met one requirement for requesting help by specifying the version of 
GIMP that you are using, but have failed to meet the requirement to inform us 
of the operating system that you are using. Please do so as it may be a 
significant factor in finding the remedy for your problem.

Regards

Kevin




 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 23:26:15 +0200
 From: for...@gimpusers.com
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 CC: t...@gimpusers.com
 Subject: [Gimp-user] Layer Opacity Access Point(s) Madness
 
 GIMP: Opacity Access Obscurity
   
 I. Would-be Satisfied User Question   
   
  
   
 II. System Feature Access Change Request | Recommendation, for GIMP SMEs and
 Online Enthusiasts' Forum:
 Maddening | Urgent Help Request:  
   
 I. Apparent is no navigational work-around for a lost, deleted (or simply no

 PSCS5ImagerConvert (via www.gimpusers.com/forums)
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Re: [Gimp-user] I cannot support 2.8

[Kevin Payne]

 But the developers of GIMP will have to do it without my funding until they 
 get
 back on the right track. Until then, I will be waiting.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Marc
 
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Dear Developers,

  In response to the above, I've made a donation. 

  Keep up the good work.

Kevin
  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

[Kevin Payne]

Perhaps you could leave it buggy and maybe these python script writers with 
problems won't see their changes ignored:

http://gimpforums.com/thread-problems-using-python-scripts
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=9t=6486

Kevin



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 From: jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org
 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:11:11 +0200
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every   
 startup
 
 On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 02:21:15 -0400, Jesse Pavel wrote:
 
  Have others been experiencing this?
 
 This appears to be a bug in 32-bit build - we're looking into it.
 
 -- 
  Jernej Simončič  http://eternallybored.org/ 
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] samjcreations gone?

[Kevin Payne]

According this her comments some reorganisation is going on: 
http://gimpchat.com/viewtopic.php?f=7t=6441#p80135

 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:38:38 -0600
 From: dave_bodens...@sbcglobal.net
 To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: [Gimp-user] samjcreations gone?
 
 [Sorry if duplicate; got weird error from Thunderbird -- which 
 disappeared too fast to read -- something about try again later.]
 
 I had (at my own snail's pace) been downloading, compiling myself and 
 installing various Gimp plugins for Win7x64 from:
 
 http://samjcreations.blogspot.com/2011/12/liste-des-greffons-compiles-pour-gimp.html
  
 
 
 Today I went back to browse the 64-bit plugins and the site has been 
 shut down! Everything is gone! (And although the wayback machine has 
 archived some of the pages, of course the downloads are not archived.)
 
 Has this been archived and/or moved? If not, I will be really disappointed.
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