Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-26 Thread Birger Heede
Gary Green wrote: Interview about why everyone should migrate away from the mainframe. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/qna/0,289202,sid80_gci1265623,00.html?track=NL-576ad=598271asrc=EM_NLT_1860635uid=1900046 -- For

Re: Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers

2007-07-26 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 7/25/07, Eric Loriaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers Hi All ! Note : I don't know whether you people will see my message as appropriate but there's no better place I know to discuss this issue. It doesn't matter whether you're angry against me or

Re: Console named *DICNsysclone.

2007-07-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
Paolo, yes, that helps quite a bit. So I guess internally everything that was directly sent to a console z/OS 1.6 and lower is now first queued to this EMCS console that another task/tcb will then probably output to the actual green screen/3270 emulation session. Oh, and that EMCS console is

Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread David Boyes
I grumbled about this a couple SHAREs ago and was told that vendors that are SHARE sponsers get to email SHARE members that have not opted out of SHARE announcements. You don't have use a spam filter; you can ask SHARE not to send them. After hours on the phone to get to the right

Re: Console named *DICNsysclone.

2007-07-26 Thread Paolo Cacciari
Barbara, console id *DICNSxx is a typical name of a DIDOCS console, introduced after Console Restructure stages (time ago...) From internal documentation... The DIDOCS EMCS console, named *DICNSxx, where xx is the 

Re: SDSF z/OS 1.7 Quirk

2007-07-26 Thread Griffin, John G
This happens (for me) when your already in SDSF and then go into ISHELL, when you come out of ISHELL (and return to the previous screen which was SDSF) the command line is now at the bottom. Exiting SDSF and going back in put's it back at the top Thanks and regards

ICC Console

2007-07-26 Thread Andy White
Can anyone out there who are using ICC consoles tell me how they have the console itself defined both in the consol member and hcd. This all worked for us when we had a z8 hardware we are now on z9 but I dont see why there is a difference. Here are some observations V 1001,CONSOLE IEE936I

Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? Work with DFSMS products? Looking for a new career opportunity? What are you waiting for, Open this!!!!

2007-07-26 Thread SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN Niall
I wouldn't be able to find it in myself to work for a company which didn't know the differene between your and you're. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Paul D'Angelo
From my perspective , there isnt a Shortage of Mainframe Systems People. Companies today simply do NOT want to pay for the expertise. Most Sys-Progs I know are not Just specializing in CICS or Z/OS or RACF. The Companise I have seen want multiple skill sets and DO NOT WANT TO PAY for That

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Eric Bielefeld wrote Also, management seems to want to eliminate the positions, and make do with the rest of the staff instead of replacing the person leaving. Well I have to agree with Eric. One person leaving is Not too bad. However when A Company decides to downsize and 2- 3 sys-progs leave

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I know that in Wisconsin, for the few jobs that came up lately, there seems to be no shortage of people applying for them. Also, management seems to want to eliminate the positions, and make do with the rest of the staff instead of replacing the person leaving. I've found this in at least 3

Re: PDS to SEQ and back to PDS.... Check the CBT Tape for LISTPDS

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:08:52 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Note: ./ in the input members is translated to in the output. That's valuable. How do they deal with occurring in the input? Etc. PDS uses the OFFLOAD program from CBT file 093. It only translates ./ if it is in cc 1-2. The

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Yes In 2005 I was insulted with offerings like That Jeffrey D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 07/26/2007 12:54 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject z/OS job market (I

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Pinnacle wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs to

Re: Secure clist

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:51 AM, Phil Kingston wrote: You should be able to protect it with the RACF PROGRAM class? Phil Kingston z/OS Systems Programming Consultant Website www.zostek.com Sigh... This was BEFORE that option was available. Please just remember it JUST WASNT ICKDSF it was

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Eric Bielefeld wrote: I know that in Wisconsin, for the few jobs that came up lately, there seems to be no shortage of people applying for them. Also, management seems to want to eliminate the positions, and make do with the rest of the staff instead of replacing

Re: VSAM in extents

2007-07-26 Thread Mark Zelden
Where's Mark Thomen when we need him. This is really a little out of my area and when it is I tend not to respond, but I'll have a go anyway... On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:06:36 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious about this one. A person here has stated that when a VSAM KSDS

Re: Batch IPCS CTRACE commands

2007-07-26 Thread Robert Wright
Tom Schmidt wrote on 2007-07-26 15:09:39: I can't find BLSCBSUQ in the standard documentation either, but a google search revealed it from an old IBM Redbook (Interoperability Between VSE DL/I and OS/390 IMS DBCTL). BLSCBSUQ is a CLIST that is shipped in support of IPCS dialog option 5.4,

Re: Coupling Facility

2007-07-26 Thread Staller, Allan
Just roughing it out: 600K tracks * 1 vol/56k tracks * 2.8gb/vol = 30 GB So, probably not without a CF upgrade snip ...Our current CF has 8 GIG. ... Remainder snipped /snip .ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Bob Shannon
As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Ray Mullins
Ou quelque parte de la France? Irgendwo in Deutschland? Or in the UK? Or nearby countries? :-) -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Secure clist

2007-07-26 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
No. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Secure clist On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:55:32 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Sigh... This was BEFORE that

Re: Batch IPCS CTRACE commands

2007-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:09:39 -0500, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... //SYSTSIN DD * %BLSCBSUQ DUMP.D0508.H00.SC62.CICSD.S00018 IPCS NOPARM EVALDEF CLIST(CONFIRM(CON) PRINT(PRT) SOURCE(SRC) TERMINAL (TRM) FLAG(FLG)) LOCAL SETDEF DSNAME(¢ DUMP.D0508.H00.SC62.CICSD.S00018¢ ) NOCONFIRM

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Bob Shannon wrote: As much as I didn't care for it. IBM (when it co-hosted SHARE) never pulled this type of crap (excuse my english). The DEFAULT for any mailing should be NO unless I say YES IBM never co-hosted SHARE. Check your facts once in a while. bob,

Re: Secure clist

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:55:32 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Sigh... This was BEFORE that option was available. Please just remember it JUST WASNT ICKDSF it was a host of other no-no programs that were in sys1.linklib. It was amaspzap and others.

Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Steve Grimes said: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:30:04 -0500 Since a job that would read these counts from the SYSOUT file would be cumbersome to write, I would like to know if there is a means of directly counting the records in a dataset. One method of counting is

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Phil Kingston
My wife earns more than that pulling pints of beer in my local pub Sysprog contract rates are actually increasing over in Europe. Average rates seem to be between £350-£450 per day, although there's still not many roles around. We still need some more people to retire to kick start the

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Ray Mullins
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 14:37 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!) You guys are making me nervous. I actually want to be a

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Andy Wood
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:37:20 +0200, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these days. There are some openings for ones with Irish accents. I just saw an episode of Doctor Who which featured Ardal O'Hanlon as some sort of weird cat

Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-26 Thread John P Kalinich
Steve Grimes of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/26/2007 04:30:04 PM: Hello! z/OS 1.7 here! This is (I hope) a pre-Friday easy opinion question. The only parameters are, that we have no real third party tools to solve this except SyncSort. We need

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Steve Comstock
Lindy Mayfield wrote: You guys are making me nervous. I actually want to be a z/OS systems programmer. Some day. )-: My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these days. Neither does being a systems programmer. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-26 Thread Havelock, Glenn A
If you have a file manipulation product, such as CA FILEMASTER PLUS or some other similar product, most have a function that will provide a record count in any sequential or VSAM file for you. Regards, Glenn Glenn Havelock, CA Sr Consultant Cellular phone 908-398-7726 Office phone 908-874-9436

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Lindy Mayfield
You guys are making me nervous. I actually want to be a z/OS systems programmer. Some day. )-: My second choice is to be a cat, but that doesn't pay well these days. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: 26.

Re: Secure clist

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:55:32 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Sigh... This was BEFORE that option was available. Please just remember it JUST WASNT ICKDSF it was a host of other no-no programs that were in sys1.linklib. It was amaspzap and others. This has been discussed many times on this list. There's

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Gary Green
Sounds like a way to prove there is no one to fill technical jobs in America so they NEED to either send the job overseas or bring in more HB1's. (or is it H1B) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark H. Young Sent: Thursday, July

Re: Problems with Language environment and setting ENVAR(_EDC_ZERO_RECLEN=Y)

2007-07-26 Thread Axel Miller
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] says... Has anyone tried using the Language Environment option: ENVAR(_EDC_ZERO_RECLEN=Y) [...] Has anyone got this to work by using the //CEEOPTS file to provide the setting? No, but setenv(_EDC_ZERO_RECLEN,Y,1); works for us. Axel.

Re: Batch IPCS CTRACE commands

2007-07-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:32:27 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: In a batch execution of IPCS, how do I enter an IPCS CTRACE command that is longer than 80 (or maybe 72) characters? I've got ... //SYSTSIN DD * %BLSCBSUQ WMSB.TCPIP.TRACE.SYSN.DATA.G0021V00 //COMMAND DD * CTRACE COMP(SYSTCPDA)

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:32 AM, Jeffrey Deaver wrote: They just don't get it. Does SHARE get monies from the vendors for the mailing lists? Or for other participation opportunities? Is it possible that vendor advertising is necessary in order to be able to continue SHARE and keep the costs

Re: Batch IPCS CTRACE commands

2007-07-26 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:32:27 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I try standard TSO continuation characters (+ or -) on the CTRACE statement I get INVALID KEYWORD -. If I leave off the continuation character only the first line of the CTRACE statement is processed. I wouldn't

Re: Batch IPCS CTRACE commands

2007-07-26 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Put a + sign at the end of each line except the last: //SYSTSIN DD * %BLSCBSUQ WMSB.TCPIP.TRACE.SYSN.DATA.G0021V00 //COMMAND DD * CTRACE COMP(SYSTCPDA) + START(07/26/07,09.16.42.548700) +

Batch IPCS CTRACE commands

2007-07-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Here's a question that deserves an RTFM answer, but I've just spent a couple hours with the fine manuals and have gotten nowhere. In a batch execution of IPCS, how do I enter an IPCS CTRACE command that is longer than 80 (or maybe 72) characters? I've got ... //SYSTSIN DD *

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Have any jobs in southern France? Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS job market

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:54:11 -0600, Jeffrey D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- With 1-3 years experience ALREADY on a Help Desk, and the profieciency in MVS etal they are also looking for.sounds like an entry level SysProg job?! But don't the TSA Homeland

Re: XMIT loses the AC(1) attribute

2007-07-26 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:12:07 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just XMITted a load module and it lost the AC(1) attribute. Anybody know if that's a bug or a feature? Regards, Tom Conley You *ARE* using IBM's XMIT (Transmit), right?! The 3270 emulation software you are using to

VLF Question

2007-07-26 Thread Art Celestini
I have a situation where there are high EXCP counts against a PDSE STEPLIB, but a GTF trace of the target volume shows no actual I/O. Does anyone know whether VLF accumulates fake EXCPs, perhaps to reflect what would be the case if it (VLF) wasn't active? Thanks, Art

Re: XMIT loses the AC(1) attribute

2007-07-26 Thread Ray Mullins
I've never seen that before. I just ran a test in z/OS 1.8 and it worked great: BROWSEMYHLQ.APF.LOAD.TEST Command === Name Prompt Alias-of Size TTR ACAM . CCKDDUMP 00025F2000051001 31 . CCKDLOAD

Re: Librarian to a PDS

2007-07-26 Thread Smith, Sean M
Yes, Librarian can do it. See chapter 2.4.4 in the Librarian Users Guide. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Montevago Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Librarian to a PDS Hi, Are

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Weidt, James
An updated version - A CEO was trying to save money. So, each year, he let his computer systems go a little bit longer without upgrading. The CEO later lamented: Just when I had gotten them to not upgrading anything, the systems up and died on me! Thanks, Jim Weidt Senior Systems Engineer

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-26 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 1:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:31:10 -0400 Craddock, Chris [EMAIL

Re: XMIT loses the AC(1) attribute

2007-07-26 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip I just XMITted a load module and it lost the AC(1) attribute. Anybody know if that's a bug or a feature? snip if it was M$, it would be a feature, with IBM that would be hard to say :-) Fletch -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Librarian to a PDS

2007-07-26 Thread Dean Montevago
Hi, Are there any utilities available that will unload a librarian source file to a PDS ? TIA Dean Dean Montevago Sr. Systems Specialist Visiting Nurse Service of New York (212) 609 - 5596 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN

XMIT loses the AC(1) attribute

2007-07-26 Thread Pinnacle
I just XMITted a load module and it lost the AC(1) attribute. Anybody know if that's a bug or a feature? Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- Not only have they pocketed their bonus for reducing this month's bottom line, they have moved on to a different company or government agency and don't care about the mess they left behind. ---unsnip-- And

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Thomas Kern
Not only have they pocketed their bonus for reducing this month's bottom line, they have moved on to a different company or government agency and don't care about the mess they left behind. /Tom Kern On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:34:48 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but that doesn't

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Rugen, Len
Columbia, MO http://www.shelterins.com/shelterwebnew.nsf/x/86256C52005A1D9B862572CD00 55BA3C?OpenDocument It's not my company, but I am a customer, not that I enjoy paying my auto insurance -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Gary Green
I probably tuned out before they got to those items... ;) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul D'Angelo Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sysprog demand Gary Green wrote Last week I

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Gary Green wrote Last week I was approached for a SSP position and the recruiter thought they were doing me a favor by offering me the whopping salary of 65-69 a year! They wanted z/OS (ALL flavors), CICS, IMS, DB2, the usual SMP/E, Assembler, Cobol, CA, ISV products, 24x7 coverage, yada, yada,

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sysprog demand You can get along with less for a while. Eventually burn out will occur

Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/25/2007 11:50:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can I have the tolls from that bridge? I could sure use the money!! Most big container ships can swallow that guppy whole. Guess it was early 7 0's Sealand took a US destroyer plan and blew it

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Eric Bielefeld
It always amazes me how some people get so upset about spam. It seems to be almost a religious war against it! Personally, I have to agree with Lizette - if vendors can't send emails to people who belong to Share, they probably wouldn't want to spend as much money on Share. I seriously

Re: Email Client Settings

2007-07-26 Thread McKown, John
I sometimes get that weird stuff too. I know enough to know that it is BASE64 encoded. But I don't know why my email client sometimes does not properly decode it. My home email client, pine, never decodes that stuff. Outlook here at works ususally decodes it. As best as I can tell, it seems that

Email Client Settings

2007-07-26 Thread Thompson, Steve
From time to time I get postings from IBM-Main that only contain a block of something like the following: V2UgdXNlIGEgc2luZ2xlIENPQk9MLVNvdXJjZWNvZGUgKG1vc3RseSBzdWJwcm9ncmFtcykg Zm9y IG11bHRpcGxlIHVzZSB0byANCmF2b2lkIHJlZHVuZGFuY3kgKEJhdGNoLCBDSUNTLCBQQyku DQpT

Re: PSI MIPS

2007-07-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jul 2007 21:40:20 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) wrote: 4. Do your mainframe staff have a working concept of different application classifications based on differing quality levels of delivery? Or are they only able to follow processes and deploy at a single quality level

Re: Spam from SHARE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 5:42 AM, David Boyes wrote: ---SNIP- On the other hand, an organization that purports to provide IT education *ought* to know what is acceptable and not acceptable as good practice in a well-run IT organization. SHARE's IT decisions are just

Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:08:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why ever use a mainframe? There are just some things you can do more efficiently with a bulldozer than a thousand people with shovels. You know the famous story where the union representative goes to the WPA official suggesting they

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:18:57 +1000, Stephen Mednick ibm- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know where you are situated at the moment but there always seems ? to be a demand in some of the Asia/Pacific areas, Singapore, Hong Kong etc. Maybe you should learn Chinese. Stephen Mednick Computer

Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On 25 Jul 2007 21:49:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) wrote: And make sure you ship it from California to Hawaii. -unsnip- Can I have the tolls from that bridge? I could sure use the money!! I'd like to have enough money to build a

Re: SUSPECT: Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? Work with DFSMS products? Looking for a new career opportunity? What are you waiting for, Open this!!!!

2007-07-26 Thread Richards.Bob
Guys! It is the recruiter who misspelled, not the company for whom you would be working. IBM is indeed the company, but the rate is pitiful even if you already live in Tucson. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill

Re: ICC Console

2007-07-26 Thread Andy White
We have the same definition I wonder if its the Attachmate or Bluezone sessions we have set up neither works, they work as a tn3270 (meaning I can get a vtam10 screen and logon) but as console it gets the error. Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Antwort: Re: Cobol Conditional Compile

2007-07-26 Thread McKown, John
It would not be compatable with your current source, but have you considered using the C compiler's preprocessor? You use it's macro capability, run the original COBOL code through it, then run the resulting output through the COBOL compiler? The C preprocessor is relatively simple and I cannot

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Dave Thorn
Lizette is correct. I have been very involved in CMG for years, which most of you have probably heard of and/or attended. The income provided by vendors/sponsors is very important in keeping YOUR costs of attending down. Imagine what it would cost without them, not to mention your job of

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:31:10 -0400 Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Ed Jaffe asks... : Out of curiosity, which software products allocate CSA in keys A- : F? :I know of one major vendor's storage management product that right up :until the last time I looked

Re: Secure clist

2007-07-26 Thread Phil Kingston
You should be able to protect it with the RACF PROGRAM class? Phil Kingston z/OS Systems Programming Consultant Website www.zostek.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: 25 July 2007 19:00 To:

Re: ICC Console

2007-07-26 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:57:48 -0400, Andy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone out there who are using ICC consoles tell me how they have the console itself defined both in the consol member and hcd. 3270-X in HCD and 3278-X in CONSOLxx. HTH, PTL

How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at us. If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products

Re: Z/Journal issue June/July 2007

2007-07-26 Thread Paul Gillis
My boomerang won't come back. :-D -jc- Here in Oz they call that a stick. It's almost Friday for me. Cheers, Paul Gillis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread R.S.
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Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Anthony Saul Babonas wrote: A 50 hour week! Egads, where do I sign up? I know at one point in my life I put in 100 hours a week for several years. However it was partially choice and demands for the job. Another point is that they don't get paid any OT. They

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread r hey
Poland R.S.: I tried a few companies there CZ, but didn't get far. I wasn't even after big $. To me good signs of 'demand' are: 1- demand is far more than the 'local supply', so companies have to hire people from other countries. 2- finding a job doesn't take long for local people. Based

Counting Records in Files

2007-07-26 Thread Steve Grimes
Hello! z/OS 1.7 here! This is (I hope) a pre-Friday easy opinion question. The only parameters are, that we have no real third party tools to solve this except SyncSort. We need to count the number of records in about 100 flat files.Since we're already running these through SyncSort, I'm

Re: Counting Records in Files

2007-07-26 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
copy each into a pds/e, then reset the stats. edit the pds/e, then S * G of course if you use df/sort to copy them, just look at the output of each copy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Grimes Sent: Thursday, July 26,

Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On 26 Jul 2007 09:53:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: After 30 years of developing commercial grade software, this is the kind of opportunities that are coming my way. Has anyone else been degraded like this? That's not a typo, it is $15 an hour for proficiency in MVS. The job is in

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Anthony Saul Babonas
A 50 hour week! Egads, where do I sign up? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sysprog demand On Jul 26, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Eric Bielefeld

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 2:34 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Doesn't VTAM OWN Kex x'0a ? Ed While I don't condone it, I don't see the exposure (unless the standard zOS problem state key mask includes key 10). -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen

z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-26 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- /snip/ If you are interested please contact me at any time, this is a contract position with **. We can submit your resume for review and the manager can then decide to set up an interview with you. Please contact me at any time and we can discuss this further,

Re: Librarian to a PDS

2007-07-26 Thread Dean Montevago
Thanks. I breezed right by that before ! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Sean M Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Librarian to a PDS Yes, Librarian can do it. See chapter

Re: VSAM in extents

2007-07-26 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi John: The cost for extra extents occurs when the extent is required because of thbe overhead of having to go to the catalog and VTOC. There is a little more virtual storage required. The only other danger is that you run out of available extents allowed for the component. Regards, Gene

Re: Mainframe shops held hostage, Itanium alliance says

2007-07-26 Thread Howard Brazee
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:18:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I've been in a lot of mainframe shops over the last 20+ years and have seen one thing over and over. Mature shops have spent the last 30+ years building layers of policies and procedures to manage software development and

Re: VSAM in extents

2007-07-26 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
If he wishes to improve VSAM KSDS performance, increase the buffers and be generous doing it. If that fails to reach your performance target look at using BLSR and allocate enough buffers for the entire index. Also what is your Index CI size? If it is small 512 or 1024 and your Index level is

Re: VSAM in extents

2007-07-26 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: McKown, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: VSAM in extents I'm curious about this one. A person here has stated that when a VSAM KSDS file is in multiple extents, it performs more poorly

Re: SUSPECT: Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? Work with DFSMS products? Looking for a new career opportunity? What are you waiting for, Open this!!!!

2007-07-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:17:47 -0400, Richards.Bob wrote: Guys! It is the recruiter who misspelled, not the company for whom you would be working. IBM is indeed the company, but the rate is pitiful even if you already live in Tucson. Uh, nope, it isn't. The company you would be working for

Re: PDS to SEQ and back to PDS.... Check the CBT Tape for LISTPDS

2007-07-26 Thread John P Kalinich
-- gil of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/26/2007 09:53:37 AM: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:08:52 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote: Note: ./ in the input members is translated to in the output. That's valuable. How do they deal with occurring in the input?

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/26/2007 7:12:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am okay with this so long as Share continues to provide the conference at the level it is at currently. Think what's grating is as a Technical organization shows no sign of intelligent life at

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-26 Thread Gary Green
I concur with this sentiment... Last week I was approached for a SSP position and the recruiter thought they were doing me a favor by offering me the whopping salary of 65-69 a year! They wanted z/OS (ALL flavors), CICS, IMS, DB2, the usual SMP/E, Assembler, Cobol, CA, ISV products, 24x7

Re: Mailing lists / online forums for IBM mainframers

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/26/2007 4:04:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you should be able to check them all out yourself. Jazbots...the boink in Sheboygan is not all lists use LSOFT. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? Work with DFSMS products? Looking for a new career opportunity? What are you waiting for, Open this!!!!

2007-07-26 Thread Howard Brazee
OK, I'm thinking My an expert in MVS Diagnostic tools. It's a bit hard getting a handle on the capital D, I'm assuming that's a brand name. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: ICC Console

2007-07-26 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:20:38 -0400, Andy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have the same definition I wonder if its the Attachmate or Bluezone sessions we have set up neither works, they work as a tn3270 (meaning I can get a vtam10 screen and logon) but as console it gets the error. Andy Andy -

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE) Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much

Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 26, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Listers - I must now put my two cents in. How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets? I would think most of their funding comes from the vendors. And the only reason the vendors provide sponsorship is so they can get at

Re: SUSPECT: Re: Think your an expert with MVS Diagnostic tools? Programmed in Assembler? Work with DFSMS products? Looking for a new career opportunity? What are you waiting for, Open this!!!!

2007-07-26 Thread Steve Comstock
Richards.Bob wrote: Guys! It is the recruiter who misspelled, not the company for whom you would be working. IBM is indeed the company, but the rate is pitiful even if you already live in Tucson. Bob Richards Gee, ya' don't think they're setting things up for an H1-B worker, do you? A

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