Carsten Trebbien/CARSP/Intranet/DDB træffes ikke.

2008-04-16 Thread Carsten Trebbien
I will be out of the office starting 16-04-2008 and will not return until 05-05-2008. Contact Niels Simanis (NSI). FONT SIZE=1 FACE=Arial___ Vi goer opmaerksom paa, at denne e-mail kan indeholde fortrolig information. Hvis du ved en fejltagelse modtager e-mailen, beder vi dig

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Craddock, Chris wrote: We're so used to having access to the keys to the kingdom that we tend to forget that everyone else doesn't get them. IPCS for example; when the system captures an SVC dump all of the available data (even fetch protected data) is going to be laying around in the dump

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2008-04-16 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:15:33 -0400 Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin said : :That's all I've collected so far. Are there more ways? : DEBAPFIN : SVC screening. :Pardon? Modifying the APF bit isn't going to do you any good in an :address space that is already running since

Re: SVCDUMP capture phase statistics.....

2008-04-16 Thread Barbara Nitz
Wl, after setting GRSQ to CONTENTION (IBM default) and fortunately Q=NO, too, NDM proved true to prediction and dumped again in production with an 'already fixed' problem :-) But: Here's the relevant part of the dump statistics (some stuff snipped): Dump was complete Total dump

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers (*** Private ***)

2008-04-16 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 06:58 +0200, Barbara Nitz wrote: grin In my experience most people tend to have no clue how to use IPCS, much less how to use it to advantage, again much less how to figure out things from an sdump. Uh-oh - sounds like I'm being dragged into this (again). Damn. I'd

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers (*** Private ***)

2008-04-16 Thread Shane
O.K., so the fact this (re-)appeared in my inbox probably indicates it wasn't all that private. The rest of you never saw it - o.k. ???. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: IBM - MLC question

2008-04-16 Thread Jim Marshall
I would think ISVCOSTs would be appropriate for asking the question if IBM gives discounts on MLC products. Answering exactly what one got as a discount may over step the bounds on any talklist; particulars can always be handled offlist. The answer I believe is yes if one negotiates. The Art

z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side

2008-04-16 Thread Jim Marshall
I want to thank z/Journal for running another Viewpoint. I want to know what is being said about how folks can get off of the mainframe and convert it to Windows or even run a mixed mode. By reporting what is being contended and all in one place it make my life a bunch easier. Otherwise I would

Re: FTP serious error... HELP!

2008-04-16 Thread Cwi Jeret
We have a similar problem using the NETSAT command , on some our LPARS while on the others it work OK . The NESTAT commnand with parameters like HOME, DEV or ROUTE functions OK on all Lpars... The output we get on the failing Lpars : Command === netstat

Re: IBM - MLC question

2008-04-16 Thread George McLaren
Thanks for the reply Jim. I will post the question on ISVCOSTs as well. I'd hopes someone would say it was possible but expect IBM to tell me its not. When you say Workload Charging do you mean WLC/VWLC , as we currently do use VWLC. Regards George This e-mail is confidential and, if you

Re: Offload Process to change dasd types for spool

2008-04-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:56:29 -0700, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hot start is not adequate. Each member of the MAS will allocate 'things' on (often) every spool volume. This depends on your SPOOLDEF FENCE settings. But the default will cause the behavior you indicated. Mark -- Mark

Parmlib Paranoia (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers)

2008-04-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:12:56 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sheesh! I've never understood what some sysprog's think is so secret about the contents of parmlib. IMHO, UACC(NONE) for parmlib is more draconian paranoia than anything else. But, that's a discussion for another thread...

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers (*** Private ***)

2008-04-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shane wrote: The rest of you never saw it - o.k. ???. Mate, I'll be really honest... (I'm not a car salesperson or a lawyer) I did saw that post sitting nice and warm on my wide laptop screen at IBM- MAIN's web pages. I'd better go find another line of work :-( No, you stay here on

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/11/2008 at 03:08

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we go back to the old way - displays in the code. Wasting time good for job

Re: Consistent Data Set Names (Was: Workable Debuggers ...)

2008-04-16 Thread John Eells
Edward Jaffe wrote: snip However, when I experimented with this a while back, I found that it worked as expected only when the HLQs of the base name and alias were the same -- or more precisely -- expected to be in the same catalog. I believe both the alias entry and the related object must

Re: COBOL / VSAM question.

2008-04-16 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Savor, Tom And I dislike application folks who won't test in my sandbox then complain when things blow up the first few days after a roll-up. An impasse? That was the point. I understand that you guys

DCF: Can it live again?

2008-04-16 Thread David Boyes
DCF and Waterloo SCRIPT had a few differences in the interpretation of the dot commands, so often macros written for one didn't work on the other. Waterloo SCRIPT did support GML, but again, a slightly different set of tags than DCF, so that documents written for one often looked different on the

Re: COBOL / VSAM question.

2008-04-16 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: COBOL / VSAM question. [snip] From the other side of the fence, it is equally tiresome when you

Re: COBOL / VSAM question.

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
snipped Oh, and I might also mention that our CEO doesn't give a ... whose problem it was. He just wants it fixed so that the business can go back to making some money and helping our customers. I think maybe he has the right idea. end We allowed the users 4 weekends with 6 hour windows for

CICS Wiki news

2008-04-16 Thread Corneel Booysen
Hello everybody, 1. We got a nice addition from Leigh Compton on how to optimize web service invocations when the requester and provider programs are in the same region:

Re: Consistent Data Set Names (Was: Workable Debuggers ...)

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:28:25 -0400, John Eells wrote: Extended aliases (those defined with SYMBOLICRELATE) don't work well (i.e., at all!) for entries in the master catalog. Did you mean data set aliases? Really? In what way do you mean? I used them for an ISV product a few years ago and

Re: FTP serious error... HELP!

2008-04-16 Thread Bill Wilkie
I have seen that same error, but in our case, one of the systems was being ipl'd. After the last system came up, it went away. This message wreaks havoc on programs that are checking for a specific number sequence being returned. Bill Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:54:11 -0500 From: [EMAIL

Re: z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side

2008-04-16 Thread Jon Nolting
Actually, there will be one less Amdahl'er next week when I move from doing mainframe interoperability at Microsoft and start with IBM as a zITA in the Pacific Northwest next week. Jon Nolting EPG Compete - CATM Enterprise Technology Architect (425) 707-9334 (O) (925) 381-2375 (M) (425)

LOGR application

2008-04-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I have an application which which is running from a HSM exit routine and issue an IXGCONN request=connect IXGWRITE and IXGCONN request=disconnect evrything is fine, except a large number of console messages about structure connect and disconnect How can I avoid a number of IXC582I and

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2008-04-16 at 07:57 -0500, McKown, John wrote: So I guess my thought is, why would a __normal programmer__ want to use IPCS? Especially instead of something like AbendAID or Symdump or DumpMaster or ... ? Of course, I've now labelled everybody who uses IPCS as abnormal grin. Recently

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Don Leahy
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:03:09 -0700, Paul Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every once in a while someone pulls up a debugger tool, intending on having that skill in our resume. But when we actually need to debug, we

Re: Consistent Data Set Names (Was: Workable Debuggers ...)

2008-04-16 Thread John Eells
Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:28:25 -0400, John Eells wrote: Extended aliases (those defined with SYMBOLICRELATE) don't work well (i.e., at all!) for entries in the master catalog. Did you mean data set aliases? Really? In what way do you mean? I used them for an ISV product a

Re: Consistent Data Set Names (Was: Workable Debuggers ...)

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:06:04 -0400, John Eells wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:28:25 -0400, John Eells wrote: Extended aliases (those defined with SYMBOLICRELATE) don't work well (i.e., at all!) for entries in the master catalog. Did you mean data set aliases? Really? In

IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread Paul Whelan
Hello, I'm trying to use the RACF command exit IRREVX01 to limit the types of searches submitted through a z/OS LDAP server and am seeing some very strange behaviour that I can't understand. If I tell the exit to reject any search command containing FILTER(*) the exit works perfectly and if I

Re: FW: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 16 Apr 2008 07:16:33 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy) wrote: Every once in a while, we have time to waste - pulling up debugger tools is as good of a way to fill that time as any. soapbox If a debugging tool is seen as a waste of time it is usually because the installation hasn't put

Re: z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:24:01 -0700, Jon Nolting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, there will be one less Amdahl'er next week when I move from doing mainframe interoperability at Microsoft and start with IBM as a zITA in the Pacific Northwest next week. Jon Nolting EPG Compete - CATM

Re: IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:46:49 -0500 Paul Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :I'm trying to use the RACF command exit IRREVX01 to limit the types of :searches submitted through a z/OS LDAP server and am seeing some very :strange behaviour that I can't understand. If I tell the exit to reject any

Re: SYSRES Data Set Names (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers)

2008-04-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You always believe that your every word is golden, and go ballistic when people only quote the part that they are commenting on. 1. I'm probably going to regret responding. 2. I do not think my words are golden; I'm simply trying to clarify, since I did not articulate my position well enough to

Re: Consistent Data Set Names (Was: Workable Debuggers ...)

2008-04-16 Thread John Eells
Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:06:04 -0400, John Eells wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:28:25 -0400, John Eells wrote: Extended aliases (those defined with SYMBOLICRELATE) don't work well (i.e., at all!) for entries in the master catalog. Did you mean data set

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: But much more difficult, at least for the programmers around here, than a nicely formatted AbendAID dump. Which they look at in the ISPF dialog, not on SPOOL. So I guess my thought is, why would a __normal programmer__ want to use IPCS? Especially instead of something like

Re: SYSRES Data Set Names (was Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers)

2008-04-16 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip You always believe that your every word is golden, and go ballistic when people only quote the part that they are commenting on. 1. I'm probably going to regret responding. 2. I do not think my words are golden; I'm simply trying to clarify, since I

Logging successful attempts was Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 13 Apr 2008 to 14 Apr 2008 (#2008-105)

2008-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Apr 2008 06:56:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: -- Date:Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:01:51 -0700 From:Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SMF in System Logger In the absence of

Re: Z Education Needs

2008-04-16 Thread Clark Morris
I finally am getting around to commenting on this. On 23 Jan 2008 03:13:49 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: This is my $0.01... If I get an engineer out on a call for a Cartridge drive, I expect the following: 1. Well dressed, Easy to communicate my problem to. Neat, yes but well

Re: Workable Mainframe Debuggers

2008-04-16 Thread Kelman, Tom
On Tuesday, April 15, 2008, Edward Jaffe Wrote: Sheesh! I've never understood what some sysprog's think is so secret about the contents of parmlib. IMHO, UACC(NONE) for parmlib is more draconian paranoia than anything else. But, that's a discussion for another thread... Ed, I agree and

Re: Consistent Data Set Names (Was: Workable Debuggers ...)

2008-04-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:28:25 -0400, John Eells wrote: Edward Jaffe wrote: I created a file called 'MYUID.BASE' and used SYMBOLICRELATE to create 'SYS1.ALIAS.OF.BASE'. In my environment, data sets starting with MYUID I have experienced that to fail (to my dismay) because there's no symbol in

Re: Z Education Needs

2008-04-16 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip- Clark Morris wrote: I finally am getting around to commenting on this. On 23 Jan 2008 03:13:49 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: This is my $0.01... If I get an engineer out on a call for a Cartridge drive, I expect the

Re: Attachements (Was IRREVX01 strangeness)

2008-04-16 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Since when has IBM-Main allowed attachements. This is the first time I've ever seen one. Eric Paul Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, SNIP The code is based on the samples in SYS1.SAMPLIB(RACEXITS) and is attached. Best regards Paul Whelan -- Eric Bielefeld Systems

Re: Attachements (Was IRREVX01 strangeness)

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:40:12 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: Since when has IBM-Main allowed attachements. This is the first time I've ever seen one. Eric, The ibm-main LISTSERV web interface (which many of us use) has allowed attachments for quite some time now. I don't believe this

Re: IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread Visser, Hans (PinkRoccade Infrastructure Services Technisch Specialist)
Paul, Could you give us the output of the WTO? Mvg, Hans Visser -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Whelan Sent: woensdag 16 april 2008 16:47 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IRREVX01

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:45:34 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: But this provokes an interesting question: If (as I believe) HFS data sets are dynamically allocated in the OMVS address space (that's what's cited when I try to delete one), isn't OMVS at extreme hazard of impacting DVC etc.

Re: z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side

2008-04-16 Thread Skip Robinson
I too believe that 'reality will prevail'. But 'reality' is a complex thing that includes *perception* as much as it does molecules and photons. The truth is that the better mousetrap does not always win the day. Examples abound. Not to mention the legions of Mac users who passionately believe in

SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
Hello everyone, I have an unknown that I have not been able to figure out or at least I don't know where to look. I have a user who is trying to define a vsam file using IDCAMS as follows: DEFINE CLUSTER - ( NAME(BLAH.BLAH.BLAH) - LINEAR -

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Ah! colony address spaces; plural. Will OMVS create additional colony address spaces as hundreds of filesystems are mounted, as needed to avoid system limits on TIOT size, etc.? This should not be an issue. Authorized programs are not constrained by traditional

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-16 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 4/16/2008 12:28:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Authorized programs are not constrained by traditional limits on TIOT size and 24-bit virtual storage. ... Such programs can support literally hundreds of thousands of simultaneous allocations.

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/16/2008 at 09:31 AM, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've used both as well; the comparison is closer if you compare GML to DocBook; raw DCF is rather like raw troff macros; not for the faint of heart. It's not that bad, especially if you write macros for your

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 09:33 AM, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'll say in public: if IBM is willing to let me have the source for DCF and Bookie, I will port it to Linux for free. I want it for my own use, and I think there are others who feel the same.

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 03:55 PM, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is IBM DCF significantly different from the publicly available Waterloo Script? Yes, even if you're talking about the chargeable[1] Waterloo Script. I don't know whether they contributed the latter or

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 04:11 PM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Basically 'text formatting languages' DCF adds GML tags and on into XML. Both way behind La Plume(MI) and La TeX(Stanford). Don't confuse TEX, which is Donald Knuth's, with LaTEX, which is Leslie Lamport's.

Re: Attachements (Was IRREVX01 strangeness)

2008-04-16 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Thanks Tom. I am actually posting from the web page this time, and I see the place for attachments. I used to use the web page all the time, after Pamp;H Mining said I was getting too many emails. I found it hard to use, as it sometimes was hard to find my place the next day. Now I read

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Gilbert, What is your device geomtery on your CDS BASE DISPLAY? For 3390 it should be 56664 bytes per track and 15 tracks per cyl. If it were set to 3380, I would expect your allocations to be approx 20% smaller than requested. Where in the manual did it tell you not to use Cyls? I've been

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
Additional info, I found out where the default allocation is coming from (CDS base configuration). Apparently, when they setup the SMS default configuration, they setup the default unit to be 3390 and the default bytes per track to be 56665 : Default Management Class : Default

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread David Betten
I'd also ask if when you see the dataset using 3 times what the user requested, are you looking immediately after it's been defined or after data has been loaded into it? It might be extending once it's populated. Have a nice day, Dave Betten DFSORT Development, Performance Lead IBM Corporation

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-16 Thread Edward Jaffe
(IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote: They can also do I/O without any allocation, TIOT entry, DD statement, enqueue, open, etc. All they need is a UCB address, some CCWs somewhere, and about 150 bytes of ECSA. Of course ... using the low-level STARTIO interface. But, dynamic data set

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:52:52 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Where in the manual did it tell you not to use Cyls? I've been using Cyls or Tracks for years with no problem. I was looking at the Access Method Services for Catalogs Chapter 14 page 142.

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:57:05 -0400, David Betten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also ask if when you see the dataset using 3 times what the user requested, are you looking immediately after it's been defined or after data has been loaded into it? It might be extending once it's populated. Have a

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
And when was the last time you used non-3390 geometry? The device independence was important back in the early days of VSAM, circa 1975 when you had 3330s, 3350, 3340s on the floor, which were then followed by 3380s and 3390s. Assuming that 3390 geometry is here to stay at least from a

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:02:33 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And when was the last time you used non-3390 geometry? The device independence was important back in the early days of VSAM, circa 1975 when you had 3330s, 3350, 3340s on the floor, which were then

Re: Huh?

2008-04-16 Thread Arthur T.
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:25:07 -0700 (PDT), in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could account for the following IDCAMS output? DELETE ('RACFID') ALIAS CATALOG('USER.CATALOG') IDC3012I ENTRY RACFID NOT FOUND IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN

Re: Attachements (Was IRREVX01 strangeness)

2008-04-16 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Eric, My guess is that the ban on attachments was part of the package of LISTSERV exits that Darren had to remove upon his retirement from the university. Hopefully it will not become widespread! Wayne Driscoll Product Developer NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Gil, Is it only the one file that you have this problem with? Actually, I don't disagree either. We have always used tracks/cylinders for allocation and have not had the urge or need to convert to other formats. But considering the current problem I'm

Re: z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side

2008-04-16 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
While Microsoft is closer to Bellevue than it is to the Pacific Ocean, it is no more in the former than it is on the shore of the latter. I wonder who should be more offended: the city of Bellevue whom you accuse of harboring the evil empire or the city of Redmond whom you just deprived of its

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Arthur T.
On 16 Apr 2008 10:28:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gilbert Cardenas) wrote: Hello everyone, I have an unknown that I have not been able to figure out or at least I don't know where to look. I have a user who is trying to define a vsam

Re: TIOT filling up: too many dynamic concatenations

2008-04-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:28:00 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Gilmartin wrote: Ah! colony address spaces; plural. Will OMVS create additional colony address spaces as hundreds of filesystems are mounted, as needed to avoid system limits on TIOT size, etc.? This should not

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:27:07 -0400, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gil, Is it only the one file that you have this problem with? Actually, I don't disagree either. We have always used tracks/cylinders for allocation and have not

Re: z/Journal - Dark Side or Bright Side

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:44:38 -0700, Schwarz, Barry wrote: While Microsoft is closer to Bellevue than it is to the Pacific Ocean, it is no more in the former than it is on the shore of the latter. I wonder who should be more offended: the city of Bellevue whom you accuse of harboring the evil

Re: IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:46:49 -0500, Paul Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to use the RACF command exit IRREVX01 to limit the types of searches submitted through a z/OS LDAP server and am seeing some very strange behaviour that I can't understand. If I tell the exit to reject any search

Re: IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:15:32 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:46:49 -0500, Paul Whelan wrote: I'm trying to use the RACF command exit IRREVX01 to limit the types of searches submitted through a z/OS LDAP server and am seeing some very strange behaviour that I can't understand.

Re: IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread Visser, Hans (PinkRoccade Infrastructure Services Technisch Specialist)
Walt, i don't think you're right. he is looping from the end of the buffer to the beginning. SRCHLOOP CRR7,R8start of buffer reached? BEFINALyes, exit CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER

Re: C++ Workable Mainframe Debuggers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-16 Thread Anthony Giorgio
dbx has supported 64-bit code since z/OS V1R6. It's also a 64-bit native application. Timothy Sipples wrote: Side note: Another dividing line for the debuggers seems to be whether they support 64-bit code or not. z/XDC and IBM Debug Tool do, to pick two examples. So I would advise the

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread William H. Blair
Arthur T. wrote You don't mention the CI size. He does not need to. Gilbert Cardenas wrote: LINEAR - which means that it will have a CISIZE of 4 KB (4096). There are exactly 180 4K blocks (CIs) in each 3390 CYL. All LINEAR cluster space allocation calculations can be

Re: Encrypted Tapes and DR [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-04-16 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Russell Witt wrote: That will work just fine Mark, if your DR site is dedicated to you and you have a running system there that is not recovered from your DR tapes themselves. If your DR is running at a Sunguard/IBM shared DR recovery site, then that will not work. In that case, you will have to

OAM copying a platter

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Saraco
I have a question is there a way to make a copy of a Optical platter using OAM. We have 3995 optical drives. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: IRREVX01 strangeness

2008-04-16 Thread William H. Blair
Hans Visser wrote: Walt, i don't think you're right. he is looping from the end of the buffer to the beginning. SRCHLOOP CRR7,R8start of buffer reached? BEFINALyes, exit CLC 0(R9,R8),FILTER

PGP Command Line

2008-04-16 Thread Greg Shirey
Hello, Is anyone using PGP Command Line 9.0 for Mainframes from PGP Corporation? Does it require a Linux partition or is it installed as a Unix Systems Services application? (or something else?) The tech specifications on their website says that one of the platforms supported is IBM zSeries

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

2008-04-16 Thread Tony Harminc
2008/4/16 David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It'd still be nice to have something on Linux that understands 1403 listings, though. lpd...? Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: OAM copying a platter

2008-04-16 Thread Chuck Arney
As far as I know the OAM MOVEVOL command is the only standard utility provided to change the location of a set of objects but that is a move of the objects not a copy. It would be possible to write a program to query the DB2 OAM tables and determine the names of the objects on the optical volume

Re: SVCDUMP capture phase statistics.....

2008-04-16 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/16/2008 03:38:13 AM: after setting GRSQ to CONTENTION (IBM default) and fortunately Q=NO, too, NDM proved true to prediction and dumped again in production with an 'already fixed' problem :-) But: Here's the relevant part of

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 06:19 PM, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: __ Call an SVC that flips the JSCBAUTH bit back on. This is non-standard. If it is to be implemented even on a development system then added security needs to be built in to make sure it isn't misused.

Re: COBOL / VSAM question.

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 01:52 PM, Savor, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I understand that you guys are very smart folks, but you guys LOVE to point all problems at application folks Perhaps at your shop, alhough I doubt it. its tiresome. What's tiresome is people who pretend to

Re: Authorized Rexx Assembler Function

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 07:05 PM, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: None that can be discussed in polite company :-) What if the discussion simply states that the details are in the part of the PMR that only IBM can see and that I won't discuss them until the fix has been

Re: Has z/Journal gone to the dark side

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 02:36 PM, Daniel McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: dinosaurs and chickens can coexist and each has a role to play. We differ as to what those roles are. I don't word process in Script That's unfortunate, because I find it to be more user friendly

Re: DYNALLOC question

2008-04-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 01:16 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am writing a TSO command processor. One option is to direct output to a dataset. In support of this, for new datasets, I would like to support the parms LIKE(existing.ds.name) and USING(attr-list). I can

Re: DYNALLOC question

2008-04-16 Thread John McKown
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/15/2008 at 01:16 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am writing a TSO command processor. One option is to direct output to a dataset. In support of this, for new datasets, I would like to support

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
The following is from the AMS manual concerning CISIZE for Linear datasets: For a linear data set, the size specified is rounded up to 4096 if specified as 4096 or less. It is rounded to the next higher multiple of 4096 if specified as greater than 4096. So a Linear dataset will have a

Re: SMS allocation in Cylinders using AMS

2008-04-16 Thread William H. Blair
David W. O'Brien wrote: So a Linear dataset will have a Cisize that is a multiple of 4096, not an absolute value of 4096. You are correct. I was assuming that nobody had (and the original poster had NOT) done anything really inappropriate. For any CISIZE past 16KB you get into diminishing

Re: Attachements (Was IRREVX01 strangeness)

2008-04-16 Thread Darren Evans-Young
Text attachments are allowed. Non-text attachments will be rejected. Darren On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Eric Bielefeld wrote: Since when has IBM-Main allowed attachements. This is the first time I've ever seen one. Eric -- For

Re: IBM - MLC question

2008-04-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
I forgot one: IBM ShopzSeries. ShopzSeries provides electronic delivery of System z software, and it is available in many countries. (The online Passport Advantage system provides electronic delivery of IBM software for Linux on System z.) IBM keeps adding countries as time marches on. I think

Re: SVCDUMP capture phase statistics.....

2008-04-16 Thread Barbara Nitz
Hi Jim, thanks for fixing the time stamp! I think this time around it was somewhere else than last time. I looked at RMF M3, at the storage statistics, in particular the working set size: 18:36:30 234 18:37:00 19097 (60%delay, of this 27%common, 33% locl, 33% other) 18:37:30 70784 (57%delay,