Hi,
I'm playing with the MCSOPER and MCSOPMSG macros and no matter what I do, I
can't seem to get MLWTO messages to be seen by the interface. Am I missing
something or does MCS not see the MLWTO messages at all?
All I seem to get is the first message of the MLWTO with no indication telling
me
I don't think any were removed yet, but the older SSL stuff was moved to TLS.
I think SSL is still technically supported though.
What is the exact circumstances of the failure and/or what messages are being
generated at IP startup and/or when they try to connect?
I'm sure there is probably a r
I do a lot of upgrades for many sites and it's pretty rare that I replace /etc
or /var. I would never do it causally and It does happen VERY occasionally,
but normally you can tell in the apply jobs (for maintenace updates) what has
changed and running DIFF is always a good idea, but I really d
Personally I think z/OSMF is a big step in the wrong direction for IBM,
especially since they made it a the only choice. Before them it was also
pretty much just a single choice, but you had a lot of flexibility that you no
longer have with the newer method. There appears to be no good reason
/etc/security and /iked.conf are both part of Internet Key Exchange
Daemon(IKED), which was changed in z/OS 2.2, and 2.3, I don't think there were
changes in 2.4 or 2.5
Even though it's int he etc directory, you probably should not delete it.
Unless you are sure you won't need IKED.
Brian
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That's exactly what we suggest to our Syzygy Automation Suite product sites.
They start automation SUB=MSTR, and then set a script entry that starts it up
again and ends the one that it's currently executing under when JES is
successfully up and executing. I don't see any reason why Netview co
Just so you know, it's not SYSPLEX that you need, it's GRS and you have have
that with just a couple FICON ports.
I have been doing it at several sites now that really don't need CF's (and some
who can't afford them) and it works very well, no problems at all.
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That's the main reason they want you to do these individually, they are really
big.
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No the problem is that you can't install these particular PTFs with everything
else, they have to be performed separately via an Apply the PTF by itself with
NO Groupextend and then Apply the
remaining PTF's needed from the original Apply.
Like:
APPLY S(UI76945)
BYPASS(HOLDSYSTEM)
CHECK
If IBM remains true to form, there will probably be a smaller z16 with a suffix
that denotes that it's less powerful, then the follow process on for the z16
would be introduced a year or two after that.
It seems fairly consistent that a processor is introduced, then a slightly less
version of t
Yes,
Many products, SAS, several Broadcom, ASG (now Rocket) and several others now
send a file or files that they want loaded into a zfs. Normally they ship it
in PAX format so that you can unpax it, but sometimes it's in other formats as
well.
I don't see any issues with creating the zfs f
I never really thought about it. I use the ISPF panels (for racf and smp/e) a
lot, and I know pretty much all of the commands to do it otherwise. Actually,
I think I built my SMPe jobs originally from the panels. :)
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I think that's a pretty invalid point. I don't see anyone questioning how to
write an exit or install a new system, or use SMPe, so why would they question
my use of anything I need in order to perform my job efficiently?
Maybe it's just that they all assume I must know what I'm doing. If th
The USB is just for emergencies, I can download from my phone just as well, and
from my NAS at home if necessary. It seems odd to me to lock down a systems
programmer from getting information that may save the site, but maybe it's just
me. I can honestly say that no one has ever told me I coul
I carry everything around on a USB drive. All JCL, manuals and source code and
even load libraries that I might ever need. Drives are very cheap and can hold
much more data than I ever would need. I rarely go anywhere without it
because, well, it's attached to my keys.
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I think you guys are mixing up being productive after the first day with being
able to take everything over and run the site by yourself. And remember this
isn't a test, it's just asking for our personal opinions of our personal
experience. There are all types an levels of systems programmers,
I completely agree with one day. You should be productive by then, as for
learning all of the sites naming conventions, procedures and standards, you
would pick them up as you go. I have found that by the end of the first week,
I typically know more about how things are "supposed" to be manage
I migrate the individual dumps directly to ML2 for 30 days. I migrate them
once they reach 3 days in age. If I need it longer than that then I just
change the mgmtclas. Mostly, any problems are fixed within that time. If you
have dumps that you don't want that get migrated, just HDEL them.
Hi,
I'm not sure what you are trying to do, Most people would use the ASVT to get
tot he ACSB to see what's running. If it is that you are trying to search the
ASCB to see if a task is actually executing, then all you really need from the
ASVT is max number of ASCBS (located in ASVTMAXU) and
You are completely right, and thanks for setting things straight.
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You're incorrect, you don't need a coupling facility to share PDS/e, you can
(and I do at several sites) use FICON CTC's just as well, and in fact it's a
lot cheaper, (unless you already have a coupling facility installed in which
case it would be silly to not use it).
IBM does not require a CF
I think that you are missing the fact that you can VERY easily add GRS ring via
a couple of really inexpensive FICON cards. You may already even have them
just sitting there unused on your processor. In any case, you can buy them
even on eBay now for next to nothing.
The GRS ring (not star)
any years and it has never
failed me yet. In fact, it's gets used daily at at least 6 dozen shops that I
have worked with.
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I agree, I can't possibly convey how much I learned from some old IBM fiche
that I had access to in the computer center when I just started college. The
first really important thing I wrote (I was 17) were mods to pass the condition
codes from step to step within JES2 and then send the highest
Wait, I missed the part where it was completely deleted. Sorry about that. I
thought it was just overwritten.
Brian
On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 00:18:45 -0500, Brian Westerman
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>I use PDSEGEN on z/OS 2.5 all the time and have no problem recovering old
>versions.
>
>Brian
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I use PDSEGEN on z/OS 2.5 all the time and have no problem recovering old
versions.
Brian
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 07:14:17 -0500, Lionel B. Dyck wrote:
>If these are PDSE's with generations then the question is what release of
>z/OS are you running? If 2.4 then the ISPF delete member selections w
When you order z/OS 2.5 (or after if you have already done so), you need to
order the COD package (you can do it from ShopZseries directly and get it
electronically in under a day), which is a pre-built z/OS 2.3 (not 2.5 yet)
system (with z/OSMF pre-installed) that you restore to a single volume
I think that the developers of z/OSMF have either forgotten or didn't care that
after the installation, there will be far more customization which moves from
the "might want to do" column to the "must do" column. Something as simple as
having a system that the size of the datasets fit when you
Cool,
Thank you both very much.
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Hi,
I was asked a question today that I have no idea what to answer to it. I was
asked if it is possible or advisable to change the system parmlibs from PDS to
PDSE and if there was nay benefit to doing it.
My first reaction was that it would be a bad idea, and that PDSe's might not be
suppor
I have maintained for quite a while now that z/OSMF is not ready to exist as
the sole installation method. I have complained here, and directly to IBM and
directly to the z/OSMF advocates at IBM about the myriad of problems that need
to be resolved, but IBM's view seems to be damn the torpedoes,
I think there is a file on the CBTtape that allows you to do this, but why do
you want to keep the same VOLSERs, wouldn't it be better (and easier) to use
another VOLSER group, and copy from/to using any number of utilities?
I have converted several sites from EMC to IBM to Luminex to Optica v
Can you do that and use multiple base regs?
Brian
On Mon, 19 Sep 2022 07:32:07 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 22:03:34 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote:
>>
>>I prefer to use:
>>
>>LARL R12,Constants
>>USING (Constants,Constants_End),R12
>>
>>thereby dispensing with permanent base regis
I had to take Latin as well, and while I never used it directly trying to
communicate with anyone, it has been a great help over the years. Plus, it
makes me not sound as dumb as I really am.
Brian
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 22:52:14 -0400, David Spiegel
wrote:
>Hi Bob,
>Based upon your remarks, i
Hi,
Is anyone aware of a version of the Fullscreen zap program that works on load
modules in a PDS/e dataset?
I looked through the CBTTAPE but can't find one that supports PDS/e datasets.
Brian
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ME Too!! I can't remember ever using my Fortran after the class was over.
Luckily the instructor also offered an assembler class that he taught "on the
side" for an extra $50. I still use the stuff he taught us almost every day.
Brian
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 19:29:01 +, Farley, Peter x233
It sounds like either you are not both doing "exactly" the same transaction, or
there could be a network issue between the two locations, although networks
tend to slow things down for a handful of seconds, not minutes. Are you sure
that the transaction isn't waiting for something? Is it alway
Has anyone successfully received the zD&T learners edition setup yet? I
realize this is about zpdt, but it reminded me that I was told that I was
approved last November, but nothing seems to have happened after that time.
Brian
On Tue, 6 Sep 2022 10:54:26 -0500, Parwez Hamid
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>Wante
The "normal" reason this happens (at least to me) is because the task isn't
authorized to issue the detach. It has nothing to do with whether or not the
task was able to start, because the task may not have needed to be authorized
when it started, but needs it to perform a specific function and
Since this is a DR test, I would be willing to bet that someone made an error
in the PROGxx member and you have at lest one and probably several datasets
that are not authorized correctly. It could be that someone forgot a comma or
they specified the wrong volume (i.e it's on Z24RES on the prim
I think that you will find that until you fix the problem with backing up the
MCDS, that you won't be able to release the rest of the work that you want HSM
to do.
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There are some valid reasons to deactivate "some" of the heath checks, but most
of them are there for a very good reason. It is not going to hurt to have them
there, the overhead to produce them is quite small, and you will be happy you
have some of them from time to time.
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That's correct. I didn't delete mine either, I just made them very small.
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15 is way too low for a site that runs address spaces that are not restartable,
or at least are not restarted to reuse the reserved ones. There is only a
small overhead for setting a bunch up and it's not worth the chance to IPL to
not specify something big. 2500 is not unreasonable if you hav
Peter,
Where can I find a definitive write-up on how ESTAE recovery works and how to
use it? The doc I can find is not really very easy to understand. Since I
have problems understanding it, I would think that someone trying to use it for
the first time would have even more issues. :)
Brian
I don't think ESTAE knows about PGM-1, since PGM-2 is the one that established
the ESTAE, and assuming you didn't call PGM-1 from PGM-2 I don't see how it
would see PGM-1. Are you sure it's not areas within PGM-2 that were passed
originally from PGM-1 that you are seeing? Especially if you are
It should work fine, I have a client that is running 2.2 on a z114 with LE
COBOL 6.3 and they are happy with it. I wish I could convince them to upgrade
to get the benefit of 64-bit from it, but they are happy where they are.
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I am assuming that you are printing with JES2 and not VPS or some other remote
print product.
This can happen if you didn't re-assemble your separator exit. Although it can
happen with VPS as well if you forget to assemble it, but VPS is good about
telling you if you forgot. JES can mess up i
Your tape management system (CA-1, RMM etc.) can tell you what it thinks is the
size, and your Virtual tape appliance has the data on how much it compressed it
(if at all) after it got hold of the data. Also, if you data is sent to a
storage point, i.e. like storing on a NetApp appliance instea
One of the vendors that uses AWS is Optica, their z/VT uses AWS format. It can
also compress internally, but you don't have to.
Brian
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 21:44:25 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:
>I'm curious. What are you trying to accomplish with it? If it's just a
>matter of faster transmission o
Hmmm...
Well, first of all, "display" doesn't "DO" anything, you need to use the
EXECUTE parm instead, plus just doing ML2 won't really help your BACKUPS. You
also need to expire the backup volumes via a completely different command.
When you say a percent of zero, that only frees up volumes w
While you can have the output delivered in PDF format, we don't support the
data transforms, we call a routine that formats the output as a PDF, I thin the
op is looking for something that performs the actual transforms like from IBM,
LRS or Makinney systems
Brian
On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 14:13:36
Incidentally, we only implemented it because of our automatic email system
(SyzMAIL/z) that sends email with the condition codes and out from any job to
make sure that things would work correctly under all abend types. It's hard to
actually create some of the esoteric abends, and it's much simp
Our SyzCMD/z product )which is far less expensive than TWS or BMC's product)
does that, you can set any return code or abend code after any type of delay or
pause that you want. I don't think most companies provide that sort of thing
because I think they try to stay as far from abends as possib
This has happened to me several times because I typically do the ordering at
night. Apparently, sometimes when you try to add a csreport during off (for
IBM) hours, one of the servers that IBM uses to parse the report isn't there,
and you just have to wait a little for it to come back online.
That one's pretty hard to beat.
Brian
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 12:49:07 +, support wrote:
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directly with very little
effort, the only ones that give you problems are the ones that you wonder what
they were actually trying to accomplish in the first place. :)
Brian Westerman
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That's almost the same thing, right? :)
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 06:56:29 -0400, David Spiegel
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>In Ontario, OPP=Ontario Provincial Police.
>
>Regards,
>David
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>On 2022-06-22 23:35, Brian Westerman wrote:
>> Please excuse the marketing aspect of th
Please excuse the marketing aspect of this, but our SyzMPF/z product can notify
via email, sms text message, or TSO notify any person or persons that are
interested in any message that comes up.
Internally, on our own processor, we don't really rely on the operators to see
any message, that's
It is NEVER a good idea to NOT re-assemble the exits. Especially when you are
upgrading. In this particular case, you will find that if you don't
re-assemble them, you will get an error when you start up VPS and it will stop.
Brian
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Yes, but AFTER July 10th, you can no longer do that. What good will that do
for people who don't install until after that date, or that want to install the
next release when it comes out?
Brian
On Thu, 19 May 2022 07:50:33 +, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>Mike Schwab asked:
>>Doesn't IBM als
I understand, but in this case the z13s is a supported processor for z/OS 2.5,
but is almost completely incapable of running z/OSMF. It can run z/OSMF, but
the response time is unacceptable. We finally got IBM to compare z/OSMF on a
z13s without any zIIP and they came back to say that the one
It's very sad that the IBM response to selling a smaller machine to sites based
on their needs is that they should get a bigger box or buy a zIIP. I don't
think that's really an acceptable response from IBM. Sadly, there really
isn't going to be any other option(s) provided. For my clients t
What will be done for the smaller systems z13s level that only have 15MSU
(80MIP) in the entire box? Nothing appears to have been done for the
excruciating amount of time it takes to perform the install compared to the old
packaged delivery. Will it still be order-able for those smaller system
I think they extended the time to some future point when it seemed like things
were not completely stable. As of last week I think you could still order it
the old way.
On Fri, 13 May 2022 02:39:15 -0500, Adrian Topp wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I haven't installed z/OS under z/OSMF, but I don't believe t
Same here, I had to restart in March, and still have not heard anything.
Brian
On Wed, 11 May 2022 18:44:44 -0400, Matt Hogstrom wrote:
>I’m still waiting on processing the paperwork. Somehow it get’s started and
>lost and they ask me to start over again
>
>Matt Hogstrom
>m...@hogstrom.org
>
If you have a very small machine (under 20MSU) you are likely better off with
the old method. If you are larger then it doesn't really matter as they are
fairly equal in use.Whether or not you are running a monoplex is not really
relevant to whether one way is better than the other, but wit
on't think it's the product itself so much as the way they decided to go
with their implementation. SyzMPF/z has more features and has virtually nil
overhead.
Brian Westerman
www.SyzygyInc.com
On Tue, 3 May 2022 22:19:29 +, Mark Jacobs
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>We do, but these WTOs are malf
If you talk to CA (Broadcom), they will tell you that they don't fully support
PDS/e in a sysplex environment. I spent a long time dealing with them for 5
smaller sites, and the end result is that all 5 could not afford to add a
specialty processor to handle GRS so they purchased (very cheap) FI
The alias name is not valid to z/OS processing for APF. It's in the manual
somewhere. The alias name is jsut a catalog construct, it doesn't physically
exist on DISK anywhere.
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There is no real reason that your ICC consoles need to be on the rest of your
network. However, there are people who set it up with a VPN so they can
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There are advantages to Windows and Linux based PC's because they will be able
to use the extra capabilities of the emulators they use to emulate the 3270's.
But you are completely correct that you probably don't want very large PC's
because most operators would likely use them to play call of
3 (thanks to some recent help from the
>CBT Tape folks).
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>On 4/1/2022 9:16 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
>> Some of our clients were using the older Mocha, we found from Mochasoft that
>> they had to use version 2.3 (from 2015) or above, version 2.4 (from 2016)
>>
Some of our clients were using the older Mocha, we found from Mochasoft that
they had to use version 2.3 (from 2015) or above, version 2.4 (from 2016) was
the "preferred" lower limit from mochasoft. Some of the clients were able to
get a "free" update tot he current version, but that was back i
I think you could probably learn "how" to make your product on the LE edition
and if things start working out for you and you think you might have a viable
product, you could then switch to the personal edition. I don't think you are
locked into anything by starting with the LE edition. Many p
A lot of this is trusting people when they sign the agreement to do the right
thing.
Brian
On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:51:33 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka
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>Well, how can it be enforced?
>Let's assume someone is working on some software, called XYZ. He's
>working on zPDT emulated machine.
>Finall
Has anyone heard any news about the lower cost z/PDT lately? I was on the
list, but everything seems to have been dropped.
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Others have already responded to let you know pretty well how velocity works,
but I thought it might be important to clarify that velocity has nothing to do
with memory use. If a space is set up with a velocity of 5 that does getmains
for 50GB of storage, and another one with a velocity of 95 o
I see his point. Maybe the companies could list the number of z/OS clients
they support and/or the number of consultants on staff. For Syzygy, Inc. we
have 105 active z/OS support clients/sites, 11 cross-support (z/OS software
vendor) clients, 313 software clients (sites that run only our Syzy
Syzygy Incorporated (www.SyzygyInc.com) does ONLY z/OS Systems Programming
support, including all IBM and non-IBM mainframe Vendor products.
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The largest site I currently maintain has just over 90,000 RACF ID's, but many
of the people have more than one ID, I have 3 there.
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You're correct, that you need to code that card and use JESEDS, and that was my
point. None of that was really necessary, which is why we developed
SyzMail/z. Actually we developed it several years before IBM, and I still
wonder why IBM came up with such a convoluted way to send email when it
I hate for this to sound like a marketing email, but the difficulty of using
Jesmail via z/OSMF and several other Jes to email products is (one of the)
reason(s) we developed SyzMail/z. There is zero changes needed to the system
and the install is complete in 5 minutes. No changes to any JCL o
Bummer,
I had thought it should be really easy, but they seem to make a lot of
assumptions on setting it up.
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Does anyone know of a ZOWE for dummies type of book or directions that covers
the installation for those that have never used any of the parts that are
necessary to install it all?
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Or you could recreate the missing catalog, recatalog the dataset to it (define
recatalog) and then move the dataset somewhere else, then delete the new
catalog. If there are othjer datasets on the volume, you would be better off
zapping the VVDS than deleting it.
If you look at FSZAP you can s
you need to either use AMASPZAP or full screen zap.
I don't think there are any other kinds of JCL to do it, except maybe for some
Vendor programs
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We had a client request that we send console information from our SyzMPF/z
(console automation) product to a twitter feed, and we did it for them. But
since that time (in 2018) no one has requested it again. It's a simple
combination of sending a SMS text message to a simple IFFFT process.
Ho
Yes, in fact, when you install maintenance, you should always re-assemble your
exits, but specifically, you have to do 00, 08, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 25. You
don't have to redo exits that you don't use.
Also, you will need to re-assemble your DRS and VSV exits, if you run them.
As a general rule,
I was notified of a build issue with the z/OSMF build for z/OS 2.5.
The first order I placed was missing several components in my order list, the
second one (the redo) was the one they told me would be delayed while they
fixed the z/OSMF build process.
However, when I placed my redo order, I
I am leaning towards "He who shall not be called after midnight without
invoking his considerable wrath", but I don't think it would fit on my card.
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I don't get it, JED is not an IBM product.
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Do you have the announcement link you can post. I didn't see any today about a
JCL checker.
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One of the things that you "lose" when only IPLing once or twice per year is
the ability to install maintenance on a more frequent basis, at least anything
but individual fixes. To try to install an RSU upgrade without an IPL will be
very foolish.
As we previously stated by me and others, your
All of the sites we manage have 2 "possible" times when we "can" IPL a year, we
typically don't use them unless we are changing something that can't be done
another way. We POR only when necessary.
On average, we will ACTUALLY IPL once a year or less, some sites are once every
2 years.
In t
Yes, it does suck a little.
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That's right, I think CA's ENF product (now Broadcom) does that. I think it
uses TCP/ip but maybe it's VTAM or something else.
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I hate to make this more complicated, but if (all of) the LPARs are not
connected via a plex or CTC's, then you can't use some of these suggestions.
The reason DASD was used originally with a lot of old time software (think
Checkpoint datasets) was because it was available to ALL of the LPARs th
Running on a VM on a 400mip box doesn't count, no. The information provided to
me was that the "smallest" box that had been tested by IBM is a 400+mip one, so
the answer is "no", none of those count. I'm frankly kind of astonished that
it never occurred to IBM to test on the smallest box they
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