Re: REXX vs other languages WAS: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-04-19 Thread David Crayford
I’m not sure I would use Java as a REXX alternative now we have Python. REXX is very much legacy now. The old timers love it because it’s all they know but push come to shove Python is much easier to learn then Java with all the OO cruft. > On 19 Apr 2024, at 7:50 AM, Andrew Rowley > wrote:

Re: list Unix domain sockets

2024-04-17 Thread David Crayford
zlsof https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=scd-zlsof-display-information-about-open-files-sockets-pipes > On 17 Apr 2024, at 06:42, Frank Swarbrick wrote: > > Is it possible to list Unix domain sockets? I don't see any netstat option > to do so. > > >

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-18 Thread David Crayford
> On 19 Mar 2024, at 9:08 am, Andrew Rowley > wrote: > > On 19/03/2024 11:05 am, David Crayford wrote: >> If you’re care so much about Java catching errors at compile time then why >> don’t you use Kotlin instead? NPE’s are one of the most common form of Java &g

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-18 Thread David Crayford
Python has had type hints for ages https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html. If you use an IDE you can set the review to block commits if liniting fails. If you’re care so much about Java catching errors at compile time then why don’t you use Kotlin instead? NPE’s are one of the most

Re: Learning one's tools

2024-03-18 Thread David Crayford
> On 18 Mar 2024, at 22:33, Dave Beagle > <0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > LOL, I was a programmer for almost half my 40+ year career. IMS/COBOL DB/DC > at first. Later mostly COBOL CICS and COBOL DB2. So I’m excellent in COBOL. > In college, I programmed in PL/I,

Re: Hmm, 3 ... (Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-16 Thread David Crayford
developing extensions. I believe this gives me a significant level of expertise to offer commentary on the matter. > On 16 Mar 2024, at 6:03 pm, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > > On 16.03.2024 01:17, David Crayford wrote: >>> On 16 Mar 2024, at 7:45 am, Jay >>> Maynard&

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread David Crayford
ll that stuff. DevOps, Git repos. REXX is a pretty poor language for anything modern. IBM and ISVs are working on Python APIs for products right now. And they will be better than the REXX versions. > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 6:36 PM David Crayford < > 0595a051454b-dma

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread David Crayford
עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל לֹ֥א יְשַׁקֵּ֖ר > > ________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > David Crayford <0595a051454b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2024 6:40 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.U

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-15 Thread David Crayford
REXX can indeed be quite tricky to navigate. I recently conducted a session titled "Python for REXX programmers" at work, and during the preparation, I was surprised (although not entirely) by the numerous traps and pitfalls inherent in REXX. When you add to this its absence of basic

Re: ZOS Sending Logs to Sumologic Experience?

2024-03-07 Thread David Crayford
> On 7 Mar 2024, at 10:08 am, kekronbekron > <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> You are making a mistake if you discount the effectiveness of >> industry-standard tools in analyzing mainframe data. > > Let me clarify... I'm not saying don't use it at all. Just saying

Re: What am I doing wrong with BPXWUNIX sort?

2024-03-06 Thread David Crayford
You’re using the same stem variable for input and output. Use a specific stdout. stem and see if that fixes it. Kolusu’s snippet works for me. > On 7 Mar 2024, at 8:41 am, Charles Mills wrote: > > Thanks. As I said, I have tried both -k2 and -k 2, and also -k1 and +1, all > with the same

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-20 Thread David Crayford
Very nice. Good work Frank. You’ve taught me something new. > On 21 Feb 2024, at 1:54 am, Frank Swarbrick > wrote: > > You have to have some knowledge of C to be able to do it. For example, I had > to look at /usr/include/time.h to be able to known what types and sizes of > the data fields

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-19 Thread David Crayford
Services function that implements the function? > > One issue of course is the lack of sufficient example code for how COBOL > can call the C/C++ library routines. > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of David Crayford > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:4

Re: Nanosecond resolution timestamps for HLL's?

2024-02-19 Thread David Crayford
clock_gettime() was added to z/OS https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=functions-clock-gettime-retrieve-time-specified-clock. It's my understanding it was a requirement for the clang stuff. You may be able to call the RTL. On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:23 AM Peter Farley <

Re: IBM Reopens Its Frozen Pension Plan, Saving the Company Millions

2024-02-13 Thread David Crayford
Please Mr Z, don’t feed them! > On 14 Feb 2024, at 9:18 am, zMan > <059081901144-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > But that's not what you said. Make up your mind, Bill! > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 8:17 PM Dave Beagle < > 0525eaef6620-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >

Re: AI System Services on z/OS 3.1 - is a CF really mandatory?

2023-11-21 Thread David Crayford
> On 21 Nov 2023, at 8:20 pm, Scott Chapman > <03fffd029d68-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I think the better question is why does EzNoSQL require RLS? Probably makes > it easier because they don't have to handle different sharing issues, but it > seems possible that some might

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-17 Thread David Crayford
6.11.2023 22:54, David Crayford wrote: >> I don't find ooRexx useful on the PC as it's basically on life support >> where Python has millions of contributors. Take data validation as an >> example. There is a first class library https://docs.pydantic.dev/latest/. >>

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-16 Thread David Crayford
O scripts. But on z/Linux ooRexx with BSF4REXX is a viable > option. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf >

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-16 Thread David Crayford
write it and it isn't "mine.") I wanted to be sure I > had THE right environment block, not SOME environment block. An > 11-instruction assembler module seemed like a great solution. I still believe > that it was. > > Charles > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:31:20 +08

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-15 Thread David Crayford
property issues. > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of David Crayford > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 9:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: External Functions in C on z/OS > > > My advice is to write a command process

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-15 Thread David Crayford
There's a TSO/E vector table that has the address of the REXX routines. // get the address of the TSO/e vector table CVT * cvt = *(( CVT ** ) CVTPTR); TSVT * tsvt = cvt->cvttvt; // IKJTSVT.H - TSO/E Vector Table mapping // // Contains addresses of branch entered routines and control

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-15 Thread David Crayford
My advice is to write a command processor. As I said creating an LE environment for each function call will result in terrible performance. I’ve done this many times https://github.com/daveyc/RTK. The trick is to use CEEPIPI to create a pre-initialised LE environment and hang the pointer in

Re: External Functions in C on z/OS

2023-11-15 Thread David Crayford
There isn’t an R0 issue. IRXINIT(‘FINDENVB’) will fetch the environment block. All of the REXX mapping macros have been converted to C structures and can be found in /usr/include/zos (there is a PDS/E but I can’t remember what it's called). FWIW, writing external functions in C/C++ is a bad

Re: Anyone with zCX docker hands on?

2023-11-08 Thread David Crayford
> > On Thursday, November 9th, 2023 at 10:29, David Crayford < > dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > You misunderstood my point. I'm not bashing WireGuard. I'm sure it's a > > brilliant product and all power to them. My point is that using it to > hack >

Re: Anyone with zCX docker hands on?

2023-11-08 Thread David Crayford
and see what happens. > > > > On Wednesday, November 8th, 2023 at 19:30, David Crayford < > dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 8 Nov 2023, at 9:36 pm, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: > > > > > > Dave Jousma wrote: > > > >

Re: Anyone with zCX docker hands on?

2023-11-08 Thread David Crayford
> On 8 Nov 2023, at 9:36 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > Dave Jousma wrote: > >> Thanks Timothy. Yep found all that, have the instance up and working just >> fine > >> it’s the peer to peer networking that is not working. The fine folks at > >> Rocket indicate that their software is

Re: Anyone with zCX docker hands on?

2023-11-08 Thread David Crayford
On 8/11/2023 8:48 pm, Jousma, David wrote: Thanks Timothy. Yep found all that, have the instance up and working just fine it’s the peer to peer networking that is not working. The fine folks at Rocket indicate that their software is picking up the internal container IP, and not using the Host

Re: Anyone with zCX docker hands on?

2023-11-07 Thread David Crayford
To clarify, you are mentioning Rocket Terminal Emulator Web (TE Web), which serves as a Node.js-based backend application, offering a web-based user interface. I personally use it on my Mac and have found it to be superior to other alternatives. If you intend to set up zCX for high availability,

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-05 Thread David Crayford
Our > Jenkins pipeline needs it. > > > > Dave Jousma > > > > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand > Rapids, MI 49546 > > > > 616.653.8429 > > _

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-03 Thread David Crayford
needed. Our Jenkins > pipeline needs it. > > Dave Jousma > > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 > ________

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-03 Thread David Crayford
> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 > ________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of >

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-03 Thread David Crayford
> On 3 Nov 2023, at 10:32 pm, Paul Gilmartin > <042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 19:42:15 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >> >> Yes. But you still need the internet ... >> > What's the alternative? Railway Expr

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-03 Thread David Crayford
all something that can just > be expanded with a tar or pax command way overkill. > > > > Dave Jousma > > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > &g

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-02 Thread David Crayford
ast Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > > 616.653.8429 > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU>> on behalf of David Crayford > mailto:dcrayf...@gmail.com>> > Sent: T

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-02 Thread David Crayford
> On 3 Nov 2023, at 1:59 am, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > You can get another port of curl from https://zosopentools.github.io/meta/#/ > and it is very simple - much easier (imho) than using miniconda. If he’s got problems going through a proxy couldn't the same kind of problems occur using zopen

Re: Rocket miniconda frustrations

2023-11-02 Thread David Crayford
> On 3 Nov 2023, at 2:28 am, Matt Hogstrom wrote: > > I use the miniconda but haven’t had to deal with a proxy. > > That said, I’ll endorse Lionel’s recommendation. I’ve found that Rocket > doesn’t update the public channel (free) with the newest versions of the open > source tools. That’s

Re: Cloud Storage

2023-10-31 Thread David Crayford
> On 1 Nov 2023, at 10:34 am, Jon Perryman wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 08:48:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >> Sorry, OMEGAMON is a Rocket product. I know that because I work on it. >> So is SDSF, RMF, DB2 utilities, DB2 connect, IMS tools etc, etc. >>

Re: Cloud Storage

2023-10-31 Thread David Crayford
this and continue to market the products without customers knowing > that support transitioned from IBM to some company they never heard of. > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 1:26 PM Jon Perryman wrote: > >> On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:51:42 +0800, David Crayford >> wrote:

Re: Cloud Storage

2023-10-31 Thread David Crayford
> On 31 Oct 2023, at 8:42 am, Jon Perryman wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 16:35:39 +0100, Jack Zukt wrote: > >> Is there anyone out there using cloud storage for backup or dataset >> migration, using IBM Cloud Tape Connector for z/OS or Model9? > > I did a quick search and found an IBM

Re: Does z/VM have a product/tool which can send backup to the Cloud ?

2023-10-26 Thread David Crayford
> On 26 Oct 2023, at 1:48 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > Jon Perryman wrote: >> Googles cloud backup/recovery is very different from IBM z/OS > > You headed off on a tangent here that I don’t think I encouraged. I’m not > sure what you’re referring to. As usual! > >> No IBM z system has

Re: Assembler access to USS functions

2023-10-06 Thread David Crayford
> On 7 Oct 2023, at 6:28 am, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > This is a thread that won't die. And there has been some absolute tosh spouted! > > In z/OS, environment variables are in Language Environment, in the CEEEDB > ("Enclave Data Block"). If your assembler code is running in LE, you can >

Re: [EXTERNAL] Any recommendations for a 3270 emulator for Android

2023-09-27 Thread David Crayford
> On 27 Sep 2023, at 11:50 pm, Pommier, Rex wrote: > > If their idea is that other emulators are "outdated" because "ours is browser > based", guess what. I can't talk of Attachmate et al, but Rocket Passport > HAS a browser based 3270 emulator. And just because something is browser > based

Re: Building AMODE 31 Assembler DLL

2023-09-16 Thread David Crayford
It’s documented in the book. EXPORT=YES https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=wdc-writing-your-language-environment-conforming-assembler-dll-code > On 15 Sep 2023, at 03:03, Eric Erickson wrote: > > I've found a bunch of information on creating AMODE 64 Assembler DLLs, but > having

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread David Crayford
> > There is nothing to indicate assembler programming is growing and in fact it > is shrinking by approximately 5% a year. > > AI is going to grow exponentially. For decades. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 9:59 PM

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread David Crayford
ission critical products needs to be supported for decades. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Wednesday, September 13, 2023, 9:00 PM, David Crayford > wrote: > > We’ve got loads of potential positions for good HLASM programmers. Send me > your resume if you’re intere

Re: Assembler, was: AI expert hot new position

2023-09-13 Thread David Crayford
We’ve got loads of potential positions for good HLASM programmers. Send me your resume if you’re interested. > On 14 Sep 2023, at 4:23 am, Dean Kent wrote: > > I didn't want to get into the firefight... however, the commentary here > encouraged me to do so. > > My own belief (whether

Re: Scan a VSAM LDS?

2023-09-13 Thread David Crayford
> On 13 Sep 2023, at 12:39 am, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > You could use windowing.Look at CSRIDAC if you don't want to use assembler. > That’s an excellent suggestion even if you are using assembler. The interface is much simpler. > > From: IBM

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Crayford
> On 12 Sep 2023, at 9:50 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >> All the Utilities were written in PL/S, now PL/X. > > Can you say GENERATE? Yes, I can. And there is a small fraction of GENERATE code as it’s not needed. It’s usually coded by HLASM programmers who don’t want to learn PL/X.

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Crayford
> On 12 Sep 2023, at 9:11 pm, David Spiegel > <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Hi Bill, > Never happen? > If you were a systems programmer and were doing a z/OS upgrade, you would > probably have to repair some SMF, JES2 and Security Exits a lot more than > "almost

Re: AI expert hot new position.

2023-09-12 Thread David Crayford
> On 12 Sep 2023, at 8:04 pm, Jon Butler wrote: > > There will be a need for assembler programmers for quite a while, YEAH! z/OS syscalls are assembler macros! No HLASM no z/OS. The sheer volume of assembler code is an existential threat to the platform as young guys don’t want to spend 10

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-29 Thread David Crayford
I find a great deal of value in reading your posts, Steve. Knowing that you have experience with Amdahl in hardware adds to my respect for your insights. > On 29 Aug 2023, at 8:35 am, Steve Thompson wrote: > > Back in the day, we worked on RAS. So we put in error detection hardware >

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
On 29/8/2023 8:35 am, Steve Thompson wrote: What happens if a WINTEL server running MQ buys the farm? Those inflight transactions going through that server may time out and have to be re-driven. Is this considered an outage? Not if you have a second one handling the load and it takes over.

Re: Uptime?

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
> On 29 Aug 2023, at 8:18 am, Gibney, Dave > <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Yes, IBM z hardware and z/OS properly sysplexed can achieve many 9s of > reliability. I don't think this is in dispute. > But, computers are tools that perform useful things for people.

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
argue a lost cause. > No wonder they aren’t buying your crappy software. Actually, they do run our software. Almost every mainframe site runs our software. Most of them think it’s IBM software as it’s badged IBM. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Monday, August

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
’s is a fact and many companies are running it. Prove it. Provide a link to a bank offering a 99.999% SLA on their banking services. > You’re an idiot. More truth. Looks like you threaten people on the internet > too. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Mon

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
On Monday, August 28, 2023, 7:15 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 27/8/2023 11:05 am, Tom Brennan wrote: A bigger problem is Jon says things like this with such conviction and authority that other people reading these posts, perhaps years from now, will think they are true. Don't engage with him

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
> On 28 Aug 2023, at 10:21 pm, Bill Johnson > <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > And numerous banks have the setup necessary. JP Morgan (a REAL bank) spends > BILLIONS per year on IT. I hope so. They’re doing a PoC for one of our products at the moment. But they

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
of Jewish friends from back in the day, so maybe I picked up the expression from them? > On 2023-08-28 07:15, David Crayford wrote: >> On 27/8/2023 11:05 am, Tom Brennan wrote: >>> A bigger problem is Jon says things like this with such conviction and >>> authority t

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-28 Thread David Crayford
On 27/8/2023 11:05 am, Tom Brennan wrote: A bigger problem is Jon says things like this with such conviction and authority that other people reading these posts, perhaps years from now, will think they are true. Don't engage with him! There's no point in debating with a troll. Lately, he's

Re: RPMs for installs and Maint: [WAS SMP/E needed for installs?]

2023-08-26 Thread David Crayford
> On 26 Aug 2023, at 9:55 am, Jon Perryman wrote: > > I think z/OS uptime is 99.%. I don’t think so. IBM claim 99.999% single server uptime for z and that’s just the hardware. That’s the same as they claim for POWER running either AIX or Linux on RedHat Open Shift and what HP claim for

Re: I have

2023-08-24 Thread David Crayford
On 25/8/2023 2:05 am, Jon Perryman wrote: > On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 10:46:49 AM PDT, Steve Beaver wrote: I'm thinking that a small group of people write a SPC-for linux/unix. I'm guessing that SPC is Systems Programming C. He's referring to SPF/PC, an ISPF clone for Windows that

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
> On 24 Aug 2023, at 5:16 am, Rahim Azizarab > <03f036d88eeb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Eclipse is free. So is IntelliJ. You pay for the enterprise features. > > > regards; > > Rahim > > > > > > > >On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 10:07:57 AM CDT, Steve

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
lications that can now leverage cool unicode fonts and other stuff. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of > David Cra

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > It's a start, but I would love the opportunity to fork out $ for a full > clone. Not that I have any objections to using free software when it suits my > needs, but I won't ignore a useful program just because it's not open source. >

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 3:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone) On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: Still

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > >> Still finding this hard to recreate using ISPF with edit macros > > On a PC it's easy to examine every keystroke as it comes in PC? That’s running in a Linux shell over SSH. Vim doesn’t need to run on a PC for full duplex. It’s a

Re: JAVA IDE

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
100% agree with Kirk. IntelliJ IDEA is head and shoulders the best Java IDE. I’ve mostly been coding in Java for the last few years and use the Ultimate edition which is quite expensive but worth every penny. We also use the Jetbrains CLion IDE for C/C++ and Python. I’ve recently been playing

COBOL copilot

2023-08-23 Thread David Crayford
IBM have announced a new AI assistant to help migrating COBOL code to Java https://newsroom.ibm.com/2023-08-22-IBM-Unveils-watsonx-Generative-AI-Capabilities-to-Accelerate-Mainframe-Application-Modernization -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-22 Thread David Crayford
Whoops! Forgot the link https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode > On 23 Aug 2023, at 12:19 pm, David Crayford wrote: > > I noticed that there is LSP support for Emacs. That's super important in the > modern world of language servers. > > On 23/8/2023 9:32 am, Tomasz Rola wro

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-22 Thread David Crayford
I noticed that there is LSP support for Emacs. That's super important in the modern world of language servers. On 23/8/2023 9:32 am, Tomasz Rola wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 08:44:30AM +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote: I remember using ed. Via a 2400bps modem :-) Aha. Ed and vi are still being

Re: emacs (was: Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-22 Thread David Crayford
On 23/8/2023 10:29 am, Steve Beaver wrote: I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf ported to Linux/Unix. https://github.com/daniel64/lspf I have used ISPF for ever and i can out do and any using VI 10 to ispf written for Linux/Unix hahaha! Still finding

Re: TECO (was Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-22 Thread David Crayford
> On 22 Aug 2023, at 10:10 pm, Gord Tomlin > wrote: > > On 2023-08-22 07:17 AM, David Crayford wrote: >> https://tree-sitter.github.io/tree-sitter/ > > That looks like a gem! Oh yeah! It’s next level and it's an incremental parser. > > -- > > Re

Re: TECO (was Re: Has anyone)

2023-08-22 Thread David Crayford
On 22/8/2023 4:12 am, Leonard D Woren wrote: Bob Bridges wrote on 8/16/2023 8:23 AM: Too many years ago; I don't remember.  And it isn't as if "unintuitive" is a fatal error in editors or any other application; TECO (anyone ever use that?) is a powerful editor - it was on the PDP platform as I

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

2023-08-21 Thread David Crayford
are. RedHat (now IBM) or SUSE stands behind them, delivering essential support. Same for cloud operators. > > - KB > > --- Original Message --- > On Monday, August 21st, 2023 at 10:12, David Crayford > wrote: > > >> On 19/8/2023 6:18 pm, Sebastian

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

2023-08-20 Thread David Crayford
On 19/8/2023 6:18 pm, Sebastian Welton wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 19:33:03 +0800, David Crayford wrote: I'm feeling a bit puzzled here! Bash doesn't come pre-installed with z/OS; rather, it's a tool ported by Rocket, so there shouldn't be any compatibility problems, right? If IBM decides

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

2023-08-18 Thread David Crayford
RV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 7:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix On 18/8/2023 7:07 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: While, IMHO, zsh should have been included in MVS/ESA SP V4.3 O

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

2023-08-18 Thread David Crayford
installing the entire suite --- Original Message --- On Friday, August 18th, 2023 at 17:03, David Crayford wrote: On 18/8/2023 7:07 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: While, IMHO, zsh should have been included in MVS/ESA SP V4.3 OpenEdition, I don't see it killing bash, due

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

2023-08-18 Thread David Crayford
commenting on every discussion, especially when it's not within your field of expertise. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf

Re: Strange results for the PS1 prompt with z/OS Unix

2023-08-18 Thread David Crayford
What version of bash are you using? Rocket software's port or IBM z/OS Open Tools? Irrespective, bash is an enhanced ASCII application so make sure you have the following environment variables set in your profile login scripts by entering "env | sort" from the shell command line.

Re: Has anyone

2023-08-17 Thread David Crayford
mple using a regular expression > > Regards, > David > > On 2023-08-17 07:28, David Crayford wrote: >> On 17/8/2023 5:41 am, Phil Smith III wrote: >>> Bob Bridges wrote, in part: >>>> I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer &

Re: Has anyone

2023-08-17 Thread David Crayford
toes wet, but it's an obvious tool to look at. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Crayford [dcrayf...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 7:28 AM

Re: Has anyone

2023-08-17 Thread David Crayford
On 17/8/2023 5:41 am, Phil Smith III wrote: Bob Bridges wrote, in part: I once spent an agonizing half-hour trying to help a Unix programmer code a program in a language I know using some kind of Unix editor that was so unintuitive I could hardly accomplish anything. As Shmuel suggests, that

Re: IBM C/C++ for Open Enterprise Languages

2023-08-11 Thread David Crayford
people rather than software being used for controlling machines. > > -- R; <>< > > > On 8/9/23 02:58, David Crayford wrote: >> As if we didn’t already have enough z/OS C/C++ compilers :) >> >> I've recently been working on Python bindings for z/OS prod

Re: IBM C/C++ for Open Enterprise Languages

2023-08-09 Thread David Crayford
brary implementations that use pthreads. https://github.com/ibmruntimes/zoslib/blob/main/src/zos-tls.cc > > > --- Original Message --- > On Wednesday, August 9th, 2023 at 12:28 PM, David Crayford > wrote: > > >> As if we didn’t already have enough z/OS C/C++

IBM C/C++ for Open Enterprise Languages

2023-08-09 Thread David Crayford
As if we didn’t already have enough z/OS C/C++ compilers :) I've recently been working on Python bindings for z/OS products and wanted to share some useful notes. IBM recently released the IBM C/C++ for Open Enterprise Languages on z/OS compiler [1], a free version of IBM Open XL C/C++, which

Re: Channelized I/O WAS: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-08-08 Thread David Crayford
> On 7 Aug 2023, at 2:46 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > David Crayford wrote: >> Maybe wait until there is actually some tangible AI libraries such as >> TensorFlow, PyTorch and SnapML before blowing trumpets. > > Huh? You *can* run these libraries on z/OS, on zIIPs

Re: Channelized I/O WAS: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-08-04 Thread David Crayford
> On 4 Aug 2023, at 1:01 pm, Timothy Sipples wrote: > > David Crayford wrote: >> Other platforms have integrated AI engines, AMD ZenDNN, >> Intel oneDNN etc. Both ship with open source libraries and >> toolkits sadly lacking for z/OS. > > Did you miss zDN

Re: Channelized I/O WAS: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-08-03 Thread David Crayford
not lanes) so the number doubled from last time. I replied same > as I did previously. > > Below, he said 1536 slots again. 1536 cards on a single z16 could be > over 3000 cables! I've had to untangle some 150+ cable rats nests, but > for that one I'd just say, Naw...

Re: Channelized I/O WAS: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-08-02 Thread David Crayford
There must be a good technical reason for this. [1] https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg248951.pdf > > On 8/1/2023 8:01 PM, Jon Perryman wrote: >> > On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 05:20:33 PM PDT, David Crayford >> wrote: >>> What’s the difference

Re: They are *all* dinosaurs

2023-08-01 Thread David Crayford
> On 2 Aug 2023, at 11:38 am, Jon Perryman wrote: > >> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 05:18:46 PM PDT, David Crayford >> wrote: >> The obvious difference is that C/C++ etc are still evolving. >> The z/OS COBOL compiler hasn’t implemented significant features >

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-08-01 Thread David Crayford
du> wrote: > > On 8/1/23 7:20 PM, David Crayford wrote: >> What’s the difference between between channelized I/O and a rack of x86 >> servers connected to a SAN using fibre channel driven by high speed HBAs? > > I don't know. > > My understanding is that F

Re: Mainframe Makers.... WAS: Ars Technica: The IBM mainframe: How it runs and why it survives

2023-08-01 Thread David Crayford
What’s the difference between between channelized I/O and a rack of x86 servers connected to a SAN using fibre channel driven by high speed HBAs? > On 2 Aug 2023, at 6:53 am, Grant Taylor > <023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On 8/1/23 3:10 PM, Rick Troth wrote: >> Look

Re: They are *all* dinosaurs

2023-08-01 Thread David Crayford
> On 31 Jul 2023, at 10:28 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > The media sling around terms like dinosaur and legacy for mainframes and > mainframe software, and tout "new" languages and platforms like C, Unix and > windows. But look at the dates and explain to me, e.g., how z is legacy but > x86

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-18 Thread David Crayford
system gens, CICS stuff etc. I was impressed. We have Ansible where I work and can stand up development z/OS images on z/VM. Very handy if you doing systems level programming and don’t want to hose the LPAR you share with your team. This new stuff was next level. > - KB > >

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-18 Thread David Crayford
> On 19 Jul 2023, at 9:52 am, kekronbekron > <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Here's a dumb and bold prediction - the guts of RHEL (CoreOS) will be laid > bare within zOS. Nice idea, but I doubt it. > USS becomes LSS. zOS native containers are actually normal

Re: Will z/OS be obsolete in 5 years?

2023-07-18 Thread David Crayford
> On 19 Jul 2023, at 11:28 am, zMan wrote: > > Bill, Bill, Bill. Stick to stuff you know something about. IF quantum > computers ever become realistically powerful, they will have VERY specific > uses. They are not suited for general-purpose computing. Nobody even > quantum-adjacent disputes

Re: How to set a SLIP to catch S0C4 in OMVS separate AS

2023-07-17 Thread David Crayford
du> wrote: > > Since it was one of the Rocket developers who requested that I try to get a > dump to be analyzed by them, I intend to respect their request and continue > to try to provide one to them if I am able to do so. > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: How to set a SLIP to catch S0C4 in OMVS separate AS

2023-07-16 Thread David Crayford
questions about how the Rocket developers are able to test it in the first place. > > Peter > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > David Crayford > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 7:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: How to set a SLIP to c

Re: How to set a SLIP to catch S0C4 in OMVS separate AS

2023-07-16 Thread David Crayford
It seems to me that the Zxplore Python is badly broken and has major issues with codepage translation. we’ve seen this before when you opened an issue for pyzfile. I’m going to update the ticket to that effect so the maintainers don’t waste time chasing shadows. > On 17 Jul 2023, at 3:57 am,

Re: How to set a SLIP to catch S0C4 in OMVS separate AS

2023-07-16 Thread David Crayford
linking modules. > On 16 Jul 2023, at 9:18 am, David Crayford wrote: > > Are you sure you don’t have a dump? LE is usually configured with > TERMTHDACT(UADUMP) which creates a transaction (SYSMDUMP). Look in the > syslog. Set the following environment variable to enable dumps by def

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