Re: Parallel Sysplex split

2015-02-17 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jaco Kruger Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Parallel Sysplex split Good morning, Currently, the Production Parallel Sysplex environment consist of all the Development and Production LPARs, which is distributed

Re: Parallel Sysplex split

2015-02-17 Thread Jousma, David
set are shared Cant share this outside of sysplex The CF lock structure is shared Cant share this outside of sysplex The CF cache structures are unique - RACF - TCP/IP - VTAM Lastly, you don’t mention it, but your comments lead me to believe that you might

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-06 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
ignore the error message for that. I think that solves that problem. I know I am a bit late on this, but do you really want to *share* the OMVS environment in an ADCD sysplex of two differing z/OS levels? Not sharing OMVS would take care of all error messages, and you already have

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-06 Thread J O Skip Robinson
This is *not* a counter-example to Mark's point that the 'building LPAR' should make no difference but an observation that in 'bronzeplex', some things work differently from a gold?/platinum? plex. Our bronzeplex is truly a parallel sysplex that meets all IBM requirements for you-know-what

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Peter Ten Eyck wrote: What things are built in a Sysplex by the first LPAR brought up in the Sysplex that would impact subsequent LPARs brought up in the Sysplex? Some possible examples... WLM, GRS, SMS etc. They don't care much about sequence, but see J.O.Skip Robinson reply. As per

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Martin Packer
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 05/12/2014 09:43 Subject:Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Peter Ten Eyck wrote: What things are built in a Sysplex by the first LPAR brought up

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Martin Packer wrote: If you want to automate detecting how and when this happens - across your estate - the following blog post of mine (from May) might be of interest: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/once_upon_a_restart?lang=en Great Martin! That was a

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Thanks for the feedback. That Redbook I mentioned was able to answer most of my questions. We will be enforcing an IPL order for our Sysplex, in particular the first LPAR that is brought up. This will be done to ensure the structures built in the coupling facility will always be built

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
I stored the link to the book, but did not have time to read it yet. Can you explain in short what is so important to have a particular LPAR brought up as first (except having to reply I to initialize the Sysplex) and what is the importance of structures being built by that LPAR? Kees

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Jousma, David
have your parmlib setup to allow any system to initialize the plex if all systems are down. Now the other points that were brought up regarding communications lpars coming up before database or application serving lpars is something to consider. But even then, you are parallel sysplex, so

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: 05 December, 2014 15:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex I guess I am missing something. Unless the CF's are being recycled, there are no structures to be (re)built. And even so, all lpars should be using

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Yes… my understanding from the documentation is that the CF structures once built will remain intact for the duration of CF LPAR run. Not sure about the “disposition of delete” comment… I would have look into that. These LPARs are not in a Parallel Sysplex. We have an existing Sysplex with two

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Jousma, David
Now, I am more confused. You say; These LPARs are not in a Parallel Sysplex. And then go on to say: The concern is/was that if the new LPAR came up first… say on POR, that something in the CF could be built differently and cause problems. If you are not in parallel sysplex in your shop

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Sorry for the confusion... these LPARs are in a Parallel Sysplex (using CF), but not utilizing many of the Parallel Sysplex features. Reading through the documentation... I guess it might fall under the description of BronzePlex

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Ten Eyck Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 10:10 AM Sorry for the confusion... these LPARs are in a Parallel Sysplex (using CF), but not utilizing many of the Parallel Sysplex features. Reading through

Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Frank Chu
Hello, I am trying to set up sysplex based on the zPDT starter system between zOS 2.1 and zOS 1.13. Everything generally works except when attempting to mount various OMVS/zFS datasets on the second system I bring up. Both systems have their own volumes containing their own OMVS/zFS system

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
Are both z/OS 2.1 and 1.13 running as guests under z/VM? Lizette -Original Message- From: Frank Chu fr...@colesoft.com Sent: Dec 5, 2014 10:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS Hello, I am trying to set up sysplex based on the zPDT starter

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Frank Chu
Yep. zVM 6.2 Frank On 12/5/2014 12:29 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: Are both z/OS 2.1 and 1.13 running as guests under z/VM? Lizette -Original Message- From: Frank Chu fr...@colesoft.com Sent: Dec 5, 2014 10:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread John McKown
You might want to post the contents of your BPXPRMnn members being activated at IPL from each system. Just from looking at the error messages, I would guess that you are running with a SYSPLEX(YES) in the BPXPRMnn member of PARMLIB. This would mean a three part UNIX root. The sysplex root

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Frank Chu
(5000) MAXTHREADS(1) MAXCPUTIME(7200) SUPERUSER(OMVSKERN) CTRACE(CTIBPX00) VERSION('UNIXVER.') SYSPLEX(YES) FILESYSTYPE TYPE(HFS) ENTRYPOINT(GFUAINIT) FILESYSTYPE TYPE(UDS) ENTRYPOINT(BPXTUINT) ROOT FILESYSTEM('ZFS.SYSPLEX..ROOT') TYPE(ZFS) MODE(RDWR) MOUNT FILESYSTEM('ZFS.ADCDLVL

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Frank Chu fr...@colesoft.com wrote: Hi John, There's 3 entries that uses a hard coded mount point, everything else including the system root and version root are mounted using symbolics. ​Well, I was totally off-base. Those members look right to me. Like

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-05 Thread Mark Brooks
Hi, Other than the issue of wanting the last system that goes down to be the first system IPLed into the sysplex (so as to avoid the operator I,J,R prompt), I'm not aware of any technical reason that would require a particular IPL order. In particular, I don't understand why there would

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Doug Henry
Hi Frank, Using tso bpxmtext EF1869CD Description: Error with issuing a LOCATE call on an HFS-compat aggregate. Action: Verify that the dataset is properly cataloged and that the catalog is available

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Frank Chu
Hi Doug, Ok, so I need to make the z2.1 dasd volumes that contains the datasets to be mounted available to the zOS 1.13 system. How would I catalog the z2.1 datasets in zOS1.13? I haven't found a way to catalog those zFS datasets. Any ideas? Frank On 12/5/2014 2:33 PM, Doug Henry

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Frank Chu Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 2:10 PM Hi Doug, Ok, so I need to make the z2.1 dasd volumes that contains the datasets to be mounted available to the zOS 1.13 system. How would I catalog the z2.1

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread John McKown
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Frank Chu fr...@colesoft.com wrote: Hi Doug, Ok, so I need to make the z2.1 dasd volumes that contains the datasets to be mounted available to the zOS 1.13 system. How would I catalog the z2.1 datasets in zOS1.13? I haven't found a way to catalog those zFS

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Doug Henry
the catalog with the new volser of a copy of the zfs. We use this when moving zfs's to another sysplex and they don't have an HLQ of SYS1 A fourth possibly undesirable way is to define these as HFS and you don't have the catalog issue. Doug On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:09:59 -0500, Frank Chu fr

Re: Setting up a sysplex and OMVS/zFS

2014-12-05 Thread Frank Chu
to have an HLQ on SYS1 and then use IDCAMS DEFINE RECATLOG in the V1R13 catalog (3) - We use an EOM product that allows us to update the catalog with the new volser of a copy of the zfs. We use this when moving zfs's to another sysplex and they don't have an HLQ of SYS1 A fourth possibly

LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-04 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
What things are built in a Sysplex by the first LPAR brought up in the Sysplex that would impact subsequent LPARs brought up in the Sysplex? Some possible examples... WLM, GRS, SMS etc. I am asking this question to elevate the need to maintain/preserve LPAR IPL order in a Sysplex and identify

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-04 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
This book has been suggested: SG24-2079-01 IBM z/OS Parallel Sysplex Operational Scenarios It has an excellent chapter (chapter 3) on IPL order. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: LPAR IPL order within a Sysplex

2014-12-04 Thread J O Skip Robinson
If the first system IPLed is not the last system brought down, you may have to reply I to initialize the sysplex. This is because the last system leaves no compatriot behind to do final cleanup of the couple data set(s). In the last-down/first-up sequence, the system recognizes his own body

Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC

2014-11-26 Thread ibmmain
Hi all There are three LPARs in our SDM system in the same machine. We don't have any CF for this system This system is a base sysplex,so we need to define CTCs between LPARs. We don't like to define CTCs. Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC. Thanks a lot

Re: Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC

2014-11-26 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 5:53 AM, ibmmain ibmm...@foxmail.com wrote: Hi all There are three LPARs in our SDM system in the same machine. We don't have any CF for this system This system is a base sysplex,so we need to define CTCs between LPARs. We don't like to define CTCs. Is there any

Re: Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC

2014-11-26 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cai Jin Song wrote: This system is a base sysplex,so we need to define CTCs between LPARs. WAD We don't like to define CTCs. Why? Is there any other way to implement base sysplex excepting CTC. AFAIK, no. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-12 Thread Graham Harris
I have in the past, used CA-MIA to share tape drives across a number of sysplex/monoplexs. On 10 November 2014 22:20, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:01:57 -0600, John McKown wrote: But I would still go with a CTC based _Basic_ Sysplex. Not these days - XCF

Re: Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-12 Thread J O Skip Robinson
We have been sharing tapes among systems for decades. Parallel sysplexes, monoplexes, basic sysplex in the mix. Multiple data centers connected via 'channel extension' (technology evolved over the years). Any system in the enterprise can allocate any tape drive. STK/Oracle tape, not IBM

Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-10 Thread Ken Smith
Anyone out there sharing tape devices outside of a Sysplex? I'd like to share stand-alone 3590, TS3500 Automated Tape Library (SMS managed), and/or a VTS. CA-1 is tape product. Seems they support their tape DB's shared with reserve/release when separated by volume properly. Sharing ATL would

Re: Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-10 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Ken Smith featse...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone out there sharing tape devices outside of a Sysplex? I'd like to share stand-alone 3590, TS3500 Automated Tape Library (SMS managed), and/or a VTS. CA-1 is tape product. Seems they support their tape DB's shared

Re: Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-11-10 o 22:16, Ken Smith pisze: Anyone out there sharing tape devices outside of a Sysplex? I'd like to share stand-alone 3590, TS3500 Automated Tape Library (SMS managed), and/or a VTS. CA-1 is tape product. Seems they support their tape DB's shared with reserve/release when

Re: Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-10 Thread John McKown
not require sysplex, but it does require CTC (or sysplex). R.S. pointed out that I misunderstood the book when _I_ said that GRS must be contained within a single Sysplex. What I was looking at is: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2g490/3.2.2 quote *Note:* Global

Re: Experience with Shared Tape - No Sysplex

2014-11-10 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:01:57 -0600, John McKown wrote: But I would still go with a CTC based _Basic_ Sysplex. Not these days - XCF based. Works better, is faster, and easier to setup - the support should be pretty ubiquitous these days. As Radoslaw noted, ATAM is a great answer in such a setup

AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-25 Thread Peter Hunkeler
When we move from V1R13 to V1R2 the superuser stuff will change. Not sure what you mean. BPX.DEFAULT.USER goes away, but this has nothing to do with superuser. So far with the superuser changes we have been getting hit with OWNERSHIP issues in regards to IBMUSER in the filesystems.

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-24 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question Q). It says The Modify Function Cannot Be Performed. Besides turning on SYSPLEX=YES, how can I get BPXOINIT

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-24 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question My fuser -cu /tmp command shows many users of /tmp: MNPB4Ufuser -cu /tmp /SYSTEM/tmp: 8c(IBMUSER) 25c

AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-24 Thread Peter Hunkeler
So HEX PID 50331938 is DEC 1345526072 My bad. I didn't lookup the description of fuser. due to the c in the process id of the first process, I was concluding it was a hex value. It is not, it is decimal! The c is a usage indicator. So drop any trailing c or r from the process id and take

AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Q). It says The Modify Function Cannot Be Performed. Besides turning on SYSPLEX=YES, how can I get BPXOINIT to do a FILESYS=DISPLAY? Yes, I can work with D OMVS,F for Filesystems, but the RedBook on z/OS V1R13 Implementation shows that bpxoinit can tell me the UID and the OWNER. Excerpt

AW: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-23 Thread Peter Hunkeler
My fuser -cu /tmp command shows many users of /tmp: MNPB4Ufuser -cu /tmp /SYSTEM/tmp: 8c(IBMUSER) 25c(RMFGAT) 50331938(IBMUSER) 33554852c(AUTO2) fuser says these are TSO USERIDs. But when I enter d omvs,u=IBMUSER I get back IBMUSER NOT FOUND. With ps -ef I can see the PIDS with

BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-22 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Dear Friends, I've noticed on our z/OS V1R13 system that we do a F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN= and it works! However about z/OS V1R7 came a BPXPRMxx parameter SYSPLEX(YES/NO). We are a SYSPLEX=NO shop. So when I enter F BPXOINIT,FILESYS=DISPLAY,FILESYSTEM=/TMP I get an error: BPXM106I UNIX

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-22 Thread Pommier, Rex
1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question Dear Friends, I've noticed on our z/OS V1R13 system that we do a F BPXOINIT,SHUTDOWN= and it works! However about z/OS V1R7 came a BPXPRMxx parameter SYSPLEX(YES/NO). We are a SYSPLEX=NO shop. So when I

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-22 Thread Leonardo Vaz
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question Dear Friends, I've noticed on our z/OS V1R13 system that we do a F

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-22 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
22, 2014 2:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question Like Rex said, probably due to UID=0. Since you seem to want a mvs command to do it you can execute f axr,bpxwlsof '/tmp' to find out the user id. If you need to know the jobname I have a rexx that you

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-22 Thread Leonardo Vaz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question Leo, Is bpxwlsof in your SYS1.SAXREXEC lib? I don't see it in mine, my

Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question

2014-10-22 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BPXOINIT and SYSPLEX Mode Question If you want the UID in the ps -ef command, try this instead: ps -e -ouid -opid,ppid,pcpu=C -ostime,tty=TTY -oatime,args=CMD -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

RACF sysplex communication

2014-10-09 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
How do I tell if a given LPAR has RACF sysplex communication enabled? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: RACF sysplex communication

2014-10-09 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Ten Eyck How do I tell if a given LPAR has RACF sysplex communication enabled? Console command RVARY LIST: . . . MEMBER smfid IS SYSPLEX COMMUNICATIONS ENABLED IN DATA SHARING -jc

Re: RACF sysplex communication

2014-10-09 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
Thanks. Got this message on in one plex: MEMBER IS SYSPLEX COMMUNICATIONS ENABLED IN NON-DATA SHARING MODE. ICH15020I RVARY COMMAND HAS FINISHED PROCESSING. Did not get the message in two other plexs... thanks again

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: Here's a somewhat silly though. If you're at the zOS 1.13 level, and in a parallel sysplex your batch jobs can use XCF Notepad services to set a flag that they're up somewhere in the sysplex, which your CICS

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Jim McAlpine
cics program. Thanks, Tim Deller Tim thanks, that sounds like a goer. I'll do some further investigation. I presume the ENQ would need to have a scope of SYSTEMS for a SYSPLEX. Would a scope of SYSTEMS also cover a single z/OS image. It's years since it did any stuff like this. Jim Mc

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Jim McAlpine
:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX Hi, One cannot reliably assume that a sysplex name of LOCAL implies that the system is not running in a multisystem sysplex. LOCAL is the name of the sysplex that XCF supplies

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:05 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Lizette Koehler

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:00:23 -0400, Mark Jacobs wrote: If you're at the zOS 1.13 level, and in a parallel sysplex your batch jobs can use XCF Notepad services Thanks Mark, I hadn't seen that. Downloaded the Publication Changes for the APAR that introduced this - a 370 page pdf ... :eek: Some

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: I think the XCF Notepad solution we be similarly not bulletproof. The only bulletproof solution is the SYSDSN ENQ, it will definitely disappear when the task or even its LPAR crashes. Kees. Yes,

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Mark Brooks
A. Brooks z/OS Sysplex design and development 845-435-5149 T/L 8-295-5149 Poughkeepsie, NY mabr...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Jim McAlpine
that created the note terminates (see KEEPNOTE=NO). That feature might help with your bulletproof issues. Mark A. Brooks z/OS Sysplex design and development 845-435-5149 T/L 8-295-5149 Poughkeepsie, NY mabr...@us.ibm.com

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-08 Thread Paul Weissman
Since your CICS transactions and the batch servers in question all use the same DB2 data sharing group, I think you can use DSNC transaction and execute DB2 command:-DIS THD(myserver) TYPE(*) SCOPE(GROUP). If myserver is up, you should see threads, and if it works it's real-time . I don't

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-07 Thread Peter Relson
I'm not sure what knowing if you're in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX buys you, but if you want to know: If you're talking about a programming solution, the name of the SYSPLEX can be gotten from field ECVTSPLX (which is a programming interface). It is also accessible by system symbol SYSPLEX

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-07 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I'm not sure what knowing if you're in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX buys you, but if you want to know: Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design I agree that is not very useful information, but that is not what I'm

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-07 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 08/07/14 08:55, Jim McAlpine wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I'm not sure what knowing if you're in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX buys you, but if you want to know: Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design I agree that is not very useful

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-07 Thread Tim Deller
I would use ENQ 1. Add a DD statement to the job that you want to test for. //TESTDD DD DSN=hlq.jobname.LOCK,DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),etc. 2. Issue ENQ with TEST on SYSDSN for the lock dataset name from the assembler cics program. Thanks, Tim Deller

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-07 Thread Mark Brooks
Hi, One cannot reliably assume that a sysplex name of LOCAL implies that the system is not running in a multisystem sysplex. LOCAL is the name of the sysplex that XCF supplies in the default COUPLE00 parmlib member that would cause the system to come up in what is called XCF-LOCAL mode

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-07 Thread Lizette Koehler
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX Hi, One cannot reliably assume that a sysplex name of LOCAL implies that the system is not running in a multisystem sysplex. LOCAL is the name of the sysplex that XCF supplies in the default COUPLE00 parmlib member

How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Jim McAlpine
. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. TIA Jim Mc -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
of each address space. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. AFAIK, There is NO easy way to do that across a SYSPLEX. Your 'checker' needs to run on the LPAR to do

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Jim McAlpine
On 6 Aug 2014 12:56, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) wrote: Your JES2 MAS will probably cover your Sysplex, so you could ask JES2 if the job is running (I don't know JES3). Good suggestion. With SDSF you can use SYSNAME * and then using ST

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Staller, Allan
in the dark ages and accomplishes this by chasing the ASCB chain and comparing the jobname of each address space. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. /snip

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jim, You inferred a CICS solution, you did not state it. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. So you need a CICS solution. If you have not done so, you

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread DASDBILL2
Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 11:25 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: How to check if a job is running

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread DASDBILL2
I forgot to add running in the same system (image, LPAR, instance of z/OS). - Original Message - From: Fairchild, Bill dasdbi...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2014 8:21:46 AM Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Jim McAlpine
, 2014 8:21:46 AM Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX It is possible to have two or more address spaces with the same jobname. Does your code handle that possibility? Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: CP Vernooij (SPLXM) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Jim McAlpine
it. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. So you need a CICS solution. If you have not done so, you might want to join and post on the CICS list To join

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX Jim, You inferred a CICS solution, you did not state it. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 6:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX Lizette, You've quoted only part of the post. If you read the whole thing

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
this by chasing the ASCB chain and comparing the jobname of each address space. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. Any suggestions as to what is the best way to accomplish this. TIA Jim Mc

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Klan, Rob (RET-DAY)
Szigetvari Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX I would also suggest to use the shared SPOOL, but maybe a ROUTE *ALL,D A,jobname would do this. With EXEC CICS SPOOLOPEN, EXEC CICS SPOOLWRITE you can

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
. This routine was written back in the dark ages and accomplishes this by chasing the ASCB chain and comparing the jobname of each address space. We now have the need to check to see if the job in question is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. All in the same JESplex? -- Shmuel

Re: How to check if a job is running in a SYSPLEX

2014-08-06 Thread Jim McAlpine
is running in any z/OS instance of a SYSPLEX. All in the same JESplex? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-27 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
I have formatted new couple dataset and used SETXCF command to make it in production . But as we don't have new hardware, we can not use this feature. Thanks for all help. On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: We have one basic sysplex, i.e. no CF

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-25 Thread Wilco Boschman
message! hope it helps solving the problem regards / groeten / saluti Wilco Boschman Mainframe Mainframe schreef op 13-06-2014 07:02: Hello, I am getting below issues for WLM while IPLing system z/OS 2.1 in sysplex. IXL013I IXLCONN REQUEST FOR STRUCTURE SYSZWLM_WORKUNIT FAILED. 543

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-25 Thread Skip Robinson
We have one basic sysplex, i.e. no CF, i.e. no structures. We have several couple data sets including WLM. Too long since last IPL to capture messages. D WLM shows this: ACTIVE WORKLOAD MANAGEMENT SERVICE POLICY NAME: xxx ACTIVATED: 2012/05/21 AT: 15:23:39 BY: xxFROM: xx

SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL

2014-06-19 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
We have z/OS 1.13 system in sysplex and now I am adding z/OS 2.1 to be part of this. So, I have used currently defined couple datasets. But I can see below message in syslog. IXC104I SYSTEM STATUS DETECTION PARTITIONING PROTOCOL ELIGIBILITY: 685 SYSTEM CANNOT TARGET OTHER SYSTEMS. REASON

Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL

2014-06-19 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
I checked in google and found that this feature is available only on z10 and later, but we are running system with z9EC currently . does this still applicable to us. On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Mainframe Mainframe mainframe1...@gmail.com wrote: We have z/OS 1.13 system in sysplex

Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL

2014-06-19 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Anonymous person wrote: I checked in google and found that this feature is available only on z10 and later, but we are running system with z9EC currently . does this still applicable to us. Check with your local friendly IBM support. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL

2014-06-19 Thread Dennis Trojak
] On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL I checked in google and found that this feature is available only on z10 and later, but we are running system with z9EC

Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL

2014-06-19 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
BY HARDWARE which is what I get on my z9BC. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 2:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED

Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL

2014-06-19 Thread Skip Robinson
Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: Mainframe Mainframe mainframe1...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, Date: 06/19/2014 07:18 AM Subject:Re: SYSPLEX COUPLE DATA SET NOT FORMATTED FOR THE PROTOCOL Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 07:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue Hello, I am getting below issues for WLM while IPLing system z/OS 2.1 in sysplex. IXL013I IXLCONN REQUEST

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-13 Thread Mainframe Mainframe
don't need this, so we did not define the structure. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mainframe Mainframe Sent: Friday, June 13, 2014 07:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue Hello

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-13 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
: Friday, June 13, 2014 13:04 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue we not using these structure in our shop, I check in my current CFRM policy. Anyway to bypass these structure. Also I am getting below adend on WLM while IPling system IWMOO5W WORKLOAD MANAGER (COMP

Re: SYSPLEX STRUCTURE issue

2014-06-13 Thread Mark Jacobs
to take a standalone dump to diagnose the WLM wait state. Mark Jacobs On 06/13/14 07:25, Mainframe Mainframe wrote: No, we have not changed anything. But just installed new z/OS 2.1 system and added into existing sysplex and with previous policy available. Do I have to make any changes in my

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