Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Great! I thought that was the case, but wasn't sure. I have all but stopped using dataset name aliases, sticking to HLQs. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:55 AM To:

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Slashes on the first five selections on 3.4? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Problem defining alias Hi, I am trying to define an

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Yes, I looks like the problem was that the HLQs were in two different user catalogs. It moved the HLQ to the same user catalog, it now it works. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday,

Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, I am trying to define an alias to a library. The library is a PDS/E I ran the following command: DEFINE ALIAS (NAME( DB2O.DB2.RUNLIB.LOAD) - RELATE(SYSG.DB2.V11.RUNLIB.LOAD)) The command ended correctly, but I don't see the alias in DSLIST (option 3.4). The HLQ's for the alias and related

IRRPRMxx

2018-03-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
We are in the process of migrating to z/OS 2.3, and I want to use the new IRRPRMxx parmlib member. The documentation in oa52560 is suspiciously silent on how to activate this in a sysplex data sharing environment, so I went through the RACF books. It seems that IRRPRMxx can only be activated

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
No, I didn't use the catalog parameter. I trusted the best OS to figure it out for me. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Richards, Robert B.
On second thought, you omitted the CATALOG() parameter. Are the usercats connected at all? It has been a long time since I managed catalogs and aliases, so I may be off base due to a memory page fault. -Original Message- From: Richards, Robert B. Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 5:41 AM

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:31:40 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: >DEFINE ALIAS (NAME( DB2O.DB2.RUNLIB.LOAD) - >RELATE(SYSG.DB2.V11.RUNLIB.LOAD)) > >The command ended correctly, but I don't see the alias in DSLIST (option 3.4). > >The HLQ's for the alias and related library are in different user catalogs.

Re: Interesting issue with D M=DEV with the LINKINFO option

2018-03-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-03-09 o 17:10, Feller, Paul pisze: Just thought I would mention an interesting issue we ran into with the D M=DEV command using the LINKINFO option. We are running z/OS 2.2 on two z13 boxes. We are in the process of removing our FICON connection from several FICON switches to

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Thanks. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Problem defining alias Yes, AFAIR an alias is created in same UCAT as base name. So if your

Re: Failed searches in KC...

2018-03-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Horein wrote: >I used the email option of "Feedback" located at the bottom of the page when >the Search between two versions of something was extremely different. A >response was the collection probably needed re-indexed. A second email a >couple/few hours later indicating that process

Another Alias question

2018-03-12 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I manager to define the alias, I can browse the related library under ISPF. When I try to run a job the uses the alias, either as a JOBLIB or as input to IEBCOPY, the job says it cannot find the dataset. Any suggestions on the reason, and how to solve the problem. This is under z/OS v2.2 Gadi

Failed searches in KC...

2018-03-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Hi to all, Searches in KC is not giving me expected results for these search argument: ICH14079I RACF detected an error in the dynamic class descriptor table [1] ... and various permutations of different words and phrases, with and without quotes. I have RTFM the 'Search Tips' on how to do

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread R.S.
Yes, AFAIR an alias is created in same UCAT as base name. So if your HLQ is "right" then you'll see the entry, otherwise the entry would exist but it would be invisible (and useless). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2018-03-12 o 10:55, Gadi Ben-Avi pisze: Yes, I looks like the

Re: Failed searches in KC...

2018-03-12 Thread Steve Horein
I used the email option of "Feedback" located at the bottom of the page when the Search between two versions of something was extremely different. A response was the collection probably needed re-indexed. A second email a couple/few hours later indicating that process had been completed, which did

Re: Interesting issue with D M=DEV with the LINKINFO option

2018-03-12 Thread Feller, Paul
Here are a few links to look at. The famous bottom line is you have to be on the right level of z/OS and the right level of hardware for this to work. On the hardware side it requires a z13 or higher and the DASD device would also need to support it to get a full picture. On the z/OS side I

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
There is no directory header block. There is a user data field for each directory entry, but that is preempted by the linkage editor and binder. You could add an SSI, but that's limited to 4 bytes. Would it saqtisfy your requirement to put the git tag in the IDR data? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Unless you're using it for something else, the ACCOUNT-INFO field in the catalog entry can be altered to provide the information you need. Not ideal for sure, but can be used. Mark Jacobs Peter March 12, 2018 at 1:47 PM Ok thanks for confirming on this... Would

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
I replied too quickly; he's creating 366 GDG definitions, in which case he can use a system symbol in his DD statement. Unless what he meant is that he wants to define a singe base for the entire year, in which case my reply stands. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400, scott Ford wrote: >All, > >I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our >product programs. >Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM >processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
I read his message as referring to load modules or program objects; changing anything but the SSI would cause problems. IDR might do the trick. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Tom Marchant
Others have suggested that you use the date and time as part of the DSNAME using system symbols. If you decide to go that way, you should consider how you will retrieve the data. It won't be nearly as easy as retrieving Generation Data Sets. -- Tom Marchant

Re: Session Manager

2018-03-12 Thread Tom Brennan
The main thing I liked about a session manager (TPX, when I worked with Skip) was that if I had some kind of PC or network problem, or even if I closed the emulator and went home to continue work, all my VTAM sessions remained connected. Bruce Hewson wrote: Do you really need a Terminal

Re: Session Manager

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not all session managers restrict you to 24x80; in fact, I have never had the misfortune to use one that did. Are you sure that it was a product limitation and not a restriction decreed by your management? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 07:55:10 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >For an ordinary data set alias, the alias must be defined in the same catalog >as the related data set, and the alias must be found using the normal catalog >search. For an alias using SYMBOLICRELATE, this restriction is changed. Once

Re: Problem defining alias

2018-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 09:31:40 +, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > >The command ended correctly, but I don't see the alias in DSLIST (option 3.4). > >The HLQ's for the alias and related library are in different user catalogs. >If I do a listcat on the related library, I see that the alias was defined. >

Transmitting a job

2018-03-12 Thread Steely.Mark
We are trying to transmit a job from the current system to another system. The job transmit and executes successfully if it connected directly to the other node. When the job needs to go through one node to get to the other node it fails. Scenario : A to B success , B to A success. D to B

Re: Session Manager

2018-03-12 Thread Martin Packer
Right. And VPNs are so flaky you really need a session manager if you come in through one. I certainly do, anyway. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs:

How to speed up IFASMFDP SMF Dump process

2018-03-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was wondering if there are any tricks to making the SMF Dump process more efficient or faster? And parms on the VSAM Define for the MANx files (like STRNO or RLS) that might help? I know about the SMF LOGSTREAM - but not ready to do that yet I am just using the IBM program IFASMFDP for now

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Dan D
If all you want is the DATE you could use the CREATION date from the catalog. CSI could easily list all the generations and all the creation dates. Dan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Peter
Hi Apology for the dummy question For the GDG to have timestamp on its every generation, how do I ensure that timestamp gets appended with all that generation created ? Could someone please point me as I am little confused here. Peter

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Charles Mills
GDS names of the format hlq.node2.node3.node4.timestamp? A very cool idea, but I don't think DFSMS will do that. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:15 AM To:

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Peter wrote: > Hi > > Apology for the dummy question > > For the GDG to have timestamp on its every generation, how do I ensure that > timestamp gets appended with all that generation created ? > > Could someone please point me as I am

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Peter
Hi Sorry I meant putting the dates On 12-Mar-2018 9:27 PM, "John McKown" wrote: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Peter wrote: > > > Hi > > > > Apology for the dummy question > > > > For the GDG to have timestamp on its every generation,

PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread scott Ford
All, I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our product programs. Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an exit to BPAM processing, which I am trying to avoid. We are trying to insert GIT tag information into the directory header for our

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Peter
So using dynamic systems symbols I can make use , but should I mention any special value in GDG base to use the dynamic system symbols ? On 12-Mar-2018 10:31 PM, "jdoll.a0...@gmail.com IBM-Main" < jdoll.a0...@gmail.com> wrote: > The LogFile went to DASD, and the create date was in the VTOC

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
What is the "directory block header"? How would it be read? On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400 scott Ford wrote: :>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our product programs. :>Is there I can do that via the Binder or do I have to write an

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
The GDG base is fixed; the GDS has a low level qualifier identifying the generation and version, colloquially know as goovoo. If you want the date or anything else from system symbols in the name, don't use a GDS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
My guess is that he means the user data in the directory entry for a specific member, in which case inserting data is dicey. Possibly adding IDR data for the member would satisfy his requirements.. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Peter
Ok thanks for confirming on this... Would have been if it had this feature On 12-Mar-2018 11:14 PM, "Seymour J Metz" wrote: > The GDG base is fixed; the GDS has a low level qualifier identifying the > generation and version, colloquially know as goovoo. If you want the date > or

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Tony Harminc
On 12 March 2018 at 13:57, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:26:57 -0400, scott Ford wrote: > >>I need to insert 30 bytes of user data in the directory block header of our >>product programs. >>Is there I can do that via the Binder or

Re: Session Manager

2018-03-12 Thread David Boyes
On 3/12/18, 2:19 PM, "IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz" wrote: > Not all session managers restrict you to 24x80; in fact, I have never had the > misfortune to use one that did. Are you sure that it was a product

Re: Session Manager

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
The second session was restricted only by what the application supported. In the case of TSO, models 2 through 5, 3290 and custom geometries were all supported; it's just a case of using the right logmode. In, e.g., TPX, you could use configure any screen geometry that TSO supported. You get

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
You can not use BPAM, BSAM or QSAM on a program library. Unless you are a vendor with access to the FAMS documentation, you are limited to the BINDER API. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IRRPRMxx

2018-03-12 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:19:40 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >We are in the process of migrating to z/OS 2.3, and I want to use the new >IRRPRMxx parmlib member. The documentation in oa52560 is suspiciously silent >on how to activate this in a sysplex data sharing environment, so

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Roger W Suhr
Hi, For a GDG dataset names to have time stamp information in the name is currently not possible. What I have done to place the creation date and time into the dataset name is to use system symbols. There are dynamic system symbols in z/OS now and you can use them in JCL for name datasets.

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Peter
So how would the GDG base definition would look like so that all the tape GDG has creation date ? On 12-Mar-2018 10:09 PM, "jdoll.a0...@gmail.com IBM-Main" < jdoll.a0...@gmail.com> wrote: > Years ago, we had a vendor application that was setup to create a Hourly > Log File in a GDG. > > Sometime

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread jdoll.a0...@gmail.com IBM-Main
Years ago, we had a vendor application that was setup to create a Hourly Log File in a GDG. Sometime in early December a Step in the Monthly Cycle jobs would create the GDG's for the next year (A program created 366 Define GDG Cards) , Then trigger a "Admin" job that had the authority to

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread jdoll.a0...@gmail.com IBM-Main
The LogFile went to DASD, and the create date was in the VTOC information, For tape files, CA1 would record the create date also. The GDG Base itself had a create date of early December, The Files in the GDG would have create dates when they were created by the +1 .. Note the 23:00 to 23:59

Re: Another Alias question

2018-03-12 Thread CV
As well as the dataset alias you also need a HLQ alias pointing to the same usercat, for this to work all the entries in question need to point to the same user cat, I also find it best to always specify the CAT parm when creating these definitions. ISPF uses different catalog search

Re: USS assembler program and envars

2018-03-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:59:35 -0400, Don Poitras wrote: > > Try: >LAA (PSA+0x4B8)->LCA->CAA->EDB->env var ptr array, ends with null ptr. > Since different processes spawned with _BPX_SHAREAS=YES may be executing concurrently in the same address space, but with different environment variables,

Re: USS assembler program and envars

2018-03-12 Thread Don Poitras
Frank, Try: LAA (PSA+0x4B8)->LCA->CAA->EDB->env var ptr array, ends with null ptr. In article you wrote: > Hi, > Does anybody know if there is a control block chain that I can walk to > find all of the envars that are define??? I know there

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
I might say that this would not be a GDG or it would be a GDG of one entry Once you have something like So I think you would only see a few GDG entries depending on how many are created on 2018 Day 80 for Midnight () - once you get to midnight +1 00:01 I think you need a new GDG base.

zhyperwrite monitor

2018-03-12 Thread ibmm...@foxmail.com
Hi all We want to use ZHYPERWRITE. If there are any issues (including performance) with FICON channels to the secondary DB2 log volume, DFSMS will give instruction to the DS8880 to start Metro Mirror replication Could you tell how to know the system use zhyperwrite to the secondary DB2 log

Re: USS assembler program and envars

2018-03-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
Seems like a really good question... you would think that there would be a pointer somewhere. This is kind of a hack, but you could spawn /bin/env with no arguments and redirect the output to an anonymous pipe and then read that into a buffer. The output with be a repeated stream of

Re: USS assembler program and envars

2018-03-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
Be sure to ask this on the mvs-oe list, since an IBM Unix guy might see it there and give a better answer. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > Seems like a really good question... you would think that

Re: Another Alias question

2018-03-12 Thread retired mainframer
Can you show us the catalog listings for the alias DSN, for the true DSN, and for the alias that points to the user catalog, if there is one? Can you show us how you accessed the dataset in ISPF? Was it 3.4 with the alias HLQ as the selection criteria? > -Original Message- > From: IBM

Re: Transmitting a job

2018-03-12 Thread Cieri, Anthony
You stated that: We are not sure when this stopped working but we did upgrade from R15 to R16 of TSS several weeks ago. Are you sure that the "indirect" path DID work at one time??? If so, this most likely does NOT apply. If the "indirect" path has never

Re: IRRPRMxx

2018-03-12 Thread Revard, Thomas (T)
Hi Barbara, Your 2.3 system will use the IRRPRMxx member and your 2.1 systems will continue to use the information you specified in the ICHRDSNT load module. All we did was take the information that we specify in the load module and put it in a parmlib member. We have not had any issues

Re: PDS directory

2018-03-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
We need the OP to indicate how he would retrieve the information to get a better idea of what he would need. On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 17:47:01 + Seymour J Metz wrote: :>My guess is that he means the user data in the directory entry for a specific member, in which case inserting

Re: GDG with timestamp

2018-03-12 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> So using dynamic systems symbols I can make use , but should I mention any special value in GDG base to use the dynamic system symbols ? Peter, You can create the GDG base with Date and time and also create the generations in the same job using EXPORT symbols. Something like this. // EXPORT

USS assembler program and envars

2018-03-12 Thread Frank Chu
Hi, Does anybody know if there is a control block chain that I can walk to find all of the envars that are define?  I know there is a LE C function that can query for a specified envar but I can't use LE C. And there are circumstances where I do not have access to the parm list pointer that