On Sun, 22 Dec 2013 10:01:33 -0600, Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote:
Straight from a slowly fading memory...
In the early '70 IBM released a new and improved CRJE called TSO, a TCAM
application program. I believe it was part of IBM's worst-ever release,
OS/MVT Release 19. TSO brought us
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 16:22:56 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
If you REALLY want to fall back to JOBLIB if you do not find the
module in STEPLIB, you can just add the libraries that are in JOBLIB
but not in STEPLIB to the end of the STEPLIB concatenation. Changing
the search order to not
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:13:41 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 12/23/2013 2:39 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
I have been using //SLEEP EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='SH sleep SECONDSs' as a
delay step in some of my STCs to wait for things like TCPIP to get up first.
I know there are other options.
It appears
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:03:14 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
From today's New York Times:
Alan Turing, the British mathematician regarded as one of the central
figures in the development of the computer, received a formal pardon
from Queen Elizabeth II on Monday for his conviction in 1952 on
charges
From:
Title: SMP/E V3R6.0 for z/OS V1R13.0 Reference
Document Number: SA22-7772-16
When a dependent FUNCTION sysmod is held for error,
2.8 ++HOLD MCS
...
FMID
specifies the FMID to which the held SYSMOD is applicable. ...
Seems to say that the FMID operand should
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:50:47 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote:
You say NOT TO THE FMID It APPLIES. What are you talking about?
A function sysmod applies to it's self. It may pre or co-req another
function but it does not apply to another FMID.
In:
Title: z/OS Packaging Rules
Document Number:
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 19:27:07 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote:
Base and dependent functions are both coded thru a ++FUNCTION. I don't think
there is a difference except for additional SMP/e statements making the base
function a pre or co-req. The dependent function does not apply to the base
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:29:06 +0100, jan de decker wrote:
I installed a HTTP server on zOS and sofar as HTML is concerned all goes
well but I cannot manage to get a REXX CGI program to do something. The
brower (Firefox) keeps showing connecting.
In the http.conf file I defined:
Exec CGI/*
On 2013-12-28, at 09:47, Charles Mills wrote:
Actually CMS on VM better for rexx than z/OS.
Why? (Risking an advocacy thread.)
For me, one reason is the CMS HELP facility. In fact,
sometimes coding Rexx for z/OS I'll log on to CMS merely
to use HELP REXX instruction.
Other reasons?
--
On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 21:40:22 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
Now since IBM has killed off Softcopy Reader and friends, maybe they'd
like to release the core Bookie code as open source, as they did for
APL\360 and OORexx. Heh...
So that we could run it on Hercules? Or, is it (even worse) PL/S?
--
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:54:57 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote:
... I looked at a couple [dependent functions] from IBM very long ago. They
basically used it to change FMID ownership of modules. Modules shipped in
PTF's under the parent FMID would be ignored and only the new FMID modules
would
On 2013-12-28, at 10:21, Charles Mills wrote:
The user-friendly interactive nature of CMS.
How would you rank CMS vis-a-vis Unix System Services by
this criterion? Before USS was available I tended to edit
JCL on CMS with XEDIT; nowadays on Solaris, often accessing
legacy data sets with
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:30:52 -0600, Andy Wood wrote:
Some may say that the HP 9100 was only a calculator, but Bill Hewlett himself
supposedly said that HP called it a calculator rather than a computer as a
marketing ploy (knowing that potential customers could more easily justify the
purchase
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 07:51:28 -0600, John McKown wrote:
I note that the description of the fork() function does not mention
_BPX_SHAREAS at all. I therefore conclude that a fork() will always result
in a new address space.
It must, in order that pointers in the child process space validly point
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:20:36 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
Most VMers claim that Rexx is superior on VM because of CMS pipes.
That's a pretty strong argument.
That's analogous to claiming that Rexx is superior on z/OS because
of address SYSCALL (others might say ISPEXEC/ISREDIT).
-- gil
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:16:29 -0500, Mark Jacobs wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I changed to tcsh since it seems to work better
than /bin/sh when I ssh to OMVS from my FreeBSD 9.2 workstation.
Examples?
-- gil
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On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:37:36 -0800, Frank Swarbrick wrote:
Is there any reason why I would not prefer binary/record over
ebcdic/blocked?� The former seems to make much more sense, since that
is in fact what I am doing.� Specifying EBCDIC implies a text file,
which this is not (even though it
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 19:03:38 -0800, Roger Steyn wrote:
John ,
This talks about the _BPX_SHAREAS environment
variable. This environment variable is not mentioned anywhere in the
documentation of tcsh.�
Your are right . BPX_SHAREAS cannot be used for tcsh . It is documented in USS
planning
On 2013-12-31, at 06:47, David Boyes wrote:
IBM did produce a OS/2 version of Bookmanager/BUILD. ...
That suggests it was written in PL/S. I understand IBM used
PL/S for OS/2 (internally) to produce some products, such as
SuperC for OS/2.
I REALLY wish IBM would release Bookie into the
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:24:23 -0500, Rob Schramm wrote:
This whole share areas thing is annoying at best. And confounding and time
consuming at the worst. Has anyone at IBM thought of a way to actually fix
this in a more functional way?
Winning friends and influencing with my tactful opinions,
On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:23:58 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Rather, I would argue that it is the even more the powerful concept of DVM's,
Disconnected Virtual Machines, and the resulting ability for even ordinary
application developers, not just sysprogs, ...
Are you suggesting that I, as
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:49:40 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
Gerard Schildberger writes:
[must have come via BITNET]
OS/VS2 would crash when getting close to 512 address spaces. Does
anybody know when that threshold was lifted? Or is there a new
threshold?
There's always a threshold;
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 09:30:19 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
(Paul Gilmartin) writes:
Are you suggesting that I, as a Class G user, can build and deploy a DVM,
no sysprog intervention?
that is exactly how the rexx author started out with his multi-user
client/server spacewar game.
however you
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:31:27 -0500, Kirk Talman wrote:
$)C1 - PDP stood for personal data processor. The PDP-1 was advertised w/a
teddy bear which I believe was delivered with it. So it depends how big
your desk was.
Programmed Data Processor, I heard at MIT circa 1962.
2 - In the 1960s @ Oak
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 12:32:58 -0600, John McKown wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
Thanks for the history Mike. I would indeed have truly bemoaned the loss
of VM had that happened.
Being lodged in strictly MVS and z/OS shops for many years without access
to
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:26:27 +0100, Massimo Biancucci wrote:
After that you'll have a binary file on your workstation and you can use it
if you have a program that can manage such a file (remember no translation
was done from EBCDIC to ASCII).
Beware! The stupidity of the implementation is that
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 22:14:09 +0100, Massimo Biancucci wrote:
Some mainframe utilities are BDW sensitive so you need to know what the
utilities are expecting.
As far as I know, the main problem is that the concept of block is only
at mainframe level. Unix or WIndows understand Binary files or CRLF
On 2014-01-02 14:22, Roberts, John J wrote:
(1) Fix the character on the WORKSTATION. This is possible since the
characters get corrupted with a 1-to-1 mapping, so it is easy to fix at the
destination.
This may be code page sensitive.
I know from bitter experience that the transmission
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 08:29:06 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
I found this on the web for z/OS V2.1. It might help with some of the
changes coming up with this version
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/data/flash/dk/resources/ITSO/IBM_z-OS_v2.1_Technical_Update_-_Marna_Walle_%28Dec_3rd%29.pdf
[wrap
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 14:49:41 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
On 1/5/2014 10:29 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
I found this on the web for z/OS V2.1. It might help with some of the
changes coming up with this version
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:39:01 -0600, John McKown wrote:
What do you mean by that? If you have a TSO command which can do full
screen 3270 processing, without using ISPF, it should run just fine under
ISPF. Of course, it cannot swap screens with an ISPF screen, ...
Bad design; wrong layering, but
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:27:04 +1100, Hank Oerlemans wrote:
As John said, there is no special requirement.
Try TSO SDSF, if you have that installed, from any ISPF command line.
You'll find it drives the TSO fullscreen dialog rather than the ISPF
version.
*And* I believe SDSF stays in its split.
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:11:45 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
One concern I might have is the fact some processes were set up with the
following philosophy
Submit all jobs at once, and the enqueue will keep them from running
concurrently. One at a time will run.
So, if you change even one job to
Re: Subject:
I believe the noun form is onus, not oner.
-- gil
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On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:31:05 -0600, John McKown wrote:
... I also tend to put comments in the JCL when I switch from DISP=OLD to
DISP=SHR which says something like (after the DD referencing the DSN):
//* THIS IS THE LAST STEP WHICH UPDATES ... FURTHER STEPS ONLY READ IT.
Kinda makes you wish for
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 06:09:37 -0800, Juan Mautalen wrote:
�
Example:
If the job runs today, january 7 of 2014, it must create�the member�F140106 (
and not F140107). That is because the job processes information from the day
before (and not from the day it is indeed running).
�
Is there a way to
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 15:04:47 -0500, Mark Jacobs wrote:
There's an IEFUJV exit available on www.cbttape.org (sorry, I don't
remember the file number), that performs symbolic substitution in batch
jobs, including mathematical operations on date fields. An example is;
// SET LASTWEEK=ZJDATE-7.
This
On Tue, 7 Jan 2014 14:07:19 -0500, Scott Ford wrote:
I wished someone could explain the HUGE delay I see in my messages posting
I can't. I post usually from the Web; intermittently by email. In either case,
the message usually appears before I can refresh my browser screen.
Looking at the
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 10:30:35 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
B... As a case in point, I did some contract work at one
agency that required all jobs using tapes to contain JCL comments
listing, by data set name, all volumes to be mounted, in sequence, with
precise formatting requirements.
And
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 11:47:58 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
I have always felt that the parent-goes-away-leaving-the-child-running
scenario was the *ix substitution for what we can do with XCTL in z/OS systems.
Ummm... Not quite. *IX supports the scenario:
a) Parent runs for a while, then
Here we go again.
We're getting:
RECEIVE LIST
FROMNTS ...
.
GIM69217ITHE LEVEL OF PROGRAM GIMJVCLT (36.17) IS NOT COMPATIBLE
WITH THE LEVEL OF THE SMP/E CALLING PROGRAM GIMSMP
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:28:13 -0600, John McKown wrote:
One possibility is to use POSIX threading instead of ATTACH. POSIX threads
all run in the same address space. And are actually implemented via TCBs.
But there is no parent/child relationship between a thread and a separate
thread which a given
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 23:01:56 -0800, Henry Willard wrote:
I believe init (pid 1) becomes the parent. ...
I stand corrected, according to experiment with all of OS X, Linux,
Solaris, and z/OS.
But still, it could provide a model for an alternative to orphans'
ABENDing: if the parent ENDs, the
Thanks Kurt Q. for your assistance. I'm not a systems programmer
(even though, for requirements of my job I've been granted RACF
authority to use the dreadfully dangerous SMP/E -- that *really*
ought to be fixed), so I don't know how things got out of sync,
nor where to find matching instances.
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:35:55 -0800, Scott Ford wrote:
All:
�
I have a fundamental question on Unicode, or more of how it works . I am
confused about the following scenario..
PC ( data using a foreign language Unicode page, like French )� going to z/OS
and being keep in tact. Names and
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:02:57 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Charles
I do not think you read my post at all carefully.
I made it clear that for specific language pairs UTF-8 is adequate if
often clumsy.
For multiple-language environments it is equally clear that it is inadequate.
It is of course
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:04:48 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote:
An intriguing question in view of the absence of tabs in the conventional
EBCDIC character set.
??? Isn't 0x05 TAB in all EBCDIC code pages.
My emulator (Vista3270) is pretty rich, but even if
I could somehow type a tab character into
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:44:10 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 1/10/2014 10:28 AM, zMan wrote:
Cute. Notepad still exists in current Windows, btw.
And it handles utf-8 fine.
SIGH
Notepad handles UTF-8 fine (on a scientific sample of 1). But it's
utterly ignorant of UNIX line separators.
(Cross posting to ISPF-L and IBM-MAIN)
On 2014-01-10, at 12:59, Don Poitras wrote:
As of z/OS 2.1, ISPF supports UTF-8, so a binary transfer will still show
an A if it
was an A on the PC. ...
What representation does it use in the 3270 data streams? Is
this well documented in the Data
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:49:19 -0600, Jim Thomas wrote:
Could anybody that has uploaded a product, that was downloaded via the
Download Director, to the
SMPNTS, please provide some direction ??.
Created a z/OS SMPNTS (zFS) and mounted it.
Downloaded a product via Download Director (this gets
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 03:48:45 -0500, Ed Finnell wrote:
It might survive as .txt attachment. Everything else gets sliced and diced.
Depends on the MUA. The text I submitted earlier by email:
== Polyglot ==
A common Russian phrase is ОЧЕНЬ ХОРОШО.
The Greek might be ΠΟΛΥ ΚΑΛΑ.
...
On 2014-01-12, at 07:06, John Gilmore wrote:
... [HLASM advocacy redacted.]
I also prefer to use 'µ', 'µµ', 'µµµ', or 'µµ...µ', one or more
instances of the Greek minuscule, to display the positions of such
characters. It is widely available (for use in such constructs as
µsec) but even
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:29:22 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
... [Tabs'] effects depend upon local tab settings, and many
implementations disambiguate them by replacing them with blanks of
currently equivalent effect in saved/stored files.
Thereby sacrificing some small economy of storage. There
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:59:25 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
second: from the moment on when we terminated to exchange
files by paper tape, we should have stopped to put tabs into files
from that same moment on - if not before. My opinion ...
Why? Where else would you keep them?
Regards tabs
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:37:20 -0600, Jim Thomas wrote:
Thank you for your direction.
You're welcome. Glad to put aside my pedant's hat and help, however briely.
But did it help? It's a complicated topic with many correct answers
competing to be the best in any particular environment. That
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:45:23 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Notepad? What's that? Perhaps some obsolete predecessor of
Wordpad?
No, it's a superior version of wordpad. HTH.
Doesn't understand UNIX line breaks. For me that's a deal breaker.
-- gil
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:48:49 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:
On Linux gedit works fine, on Windows I use Notepad++ which handles Unix
eols and UTF-8
You mean I don't have to wait for Windows 14!? Thanks!
Does it do UNIX eols on in put *and* output? Wordpad only does the
former.
Thanks again,
gil
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:09:40 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Thereby sacrificing some small economy of storage. There are even
better arguments for deferring the disambiguation, such as:
o Use of tabs as field separators in exported data bases.
o Rendering in proportional-spaced fonts,
Wanting to look up some HLASM features, I resigned myself to trying
InfoCenter for 2.1. My experience:
On the Publibz z/OS main page, I find a link to:
z/OS V2R1 Information Center
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/index.jsp
... a page with two frames. The left frame is a
On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:12:31 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote:
There have been a few discussions over the years on IBM-MAIN as to
how to SLEEP for some period of time in REXX. I was asked today to look
at a dump of a hung testcase , and came across the following example
of how *not* to do it:
/* REXX
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 07:38:03 -0600, John McKown wrote:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:02 AM, Dale Miller wrote:
Some have asserted that tab characters should be removed from source.
However, for makefiles, according to the GNU Make Manual (for version 3.80)
You need to put a tab character at the
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:12:09 +, van der Grijn, Bart (B) wrote:
I'm trying to use pax to write to a ddname.
The following code:
...
wCMD = pax -w -X -z -x pax -f //DD:PAX aDir
I don't believe any such construct is supported. Have you seen
any documentation that states that it is.
Submit a
On 2014-01-17 07:43, van der Grijn, Bart (B) wrote:
z/OS in question is z/OS 1.12
Should have clarified this in my original note, but I'm not trying to write
to a 'unix' file, I'm trying to write to a MVS dataset allocated to a DDName.
Using a dataset name in the pax command works fine,
On 2014-01-17 13:04, zMan wrote:
Ooh, ooh! Now we can fight over top-posting vs. bottom-posting! And
indent(at)ion! And HTML vs plaintext.
Hasn't LISTSERV settled by fiat the HTML question?
I post responses close to and following the quoted text.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Vernooij,
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:01:34 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote:
MVS archive datasets are supported by the PAX command. The first paragraph of
the MAN PAX page says the archive can be HFS file or MVS dataset. I only have
access to the EFGLOBE.COM system so it may now say something different but
along
On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:13:46 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In the case of this reply, I have no idea what the interesting idea was.
Please quote the text you are referring to.
Also, trim stale text, LISTSERV footers and legal disclaimers.
*But* leave enough header information (Date: and From
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 02:21:11 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
on 01/17/2014 at 08:59 AM, John McKown said:
paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,,DD:PAX,stderr.)
That provides a DD for stdout; the OP needs a dd for stdin:
paxRC=bpxwunix(wCMD,DD:PAX,STDOUT.,STDERR.)
I agree with John, rather the
On 2014-01-20, at 00:09, R.S. wrote:
2. LAS, BUT NOT LEAST: you assumed site's policies are reasonable. Security
people are reasonable. Bad assumption. There are so many cases proving the
opposite. As an example I've met lately: one has to degauss disk drives which
were never ever used
On 2014-01-20, at 13:35, R.S. wrote:
And what about n-times overwrite policies? What number is proper? Does one
need to overwrite disk content once, twice, 3 times, 7 times or 21 times?
What's the magic number? And what is the reason for the number?
For example from:
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:09:50 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
on 01/20/2014 at 11:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
I agree with John, rather [than] Shmuel. In the OP's command (which
Shmuel trimmed), it appears that he was trying to write a pax
archive, not extract one
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:56:15 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
on 01/20/2014 at 08:30 AM, Gibney, Dave said:
In this particular message, I mean stuff below between starting
0DE6A98401.
That's a message id. Those with fully functional mail software can use
it to search for a local
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 15:42:20 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
This thread has been curiously silent about one characteristic of
routines/instructions executed above the bar. Unsurprisingly, they
are measurably faster than their analogues executed below it.
z/Architecture is 64-bit architecture
Is
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 07:48:42 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote:
Good catch. In my recent SHARE pitch on system symbols, I strongly
recommend that all installation-defined symbols be a full eight characters
long regardless of initially anticipated value. In addition, I recommend
that all such symbols be
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:14:30 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
On 22 January 2014 08:36, John McKown wrote:
Now wouldn't that be a kick? An Enterprise COBOL compatible compiler which
produced Java byte code. That
would likely sell a lot of zAAPs.
Don't think it hasn't been seriously considered by
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:39:14 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
on 01/21/2014 at 12:09 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:
And your (mis)interpretation to be
disingenuous rather than misinformed.
Then I consider you ro be a fool and a hypocrite. Presumably you have
never overlooked an individual
Is/are the P[ro]Ops available via Infocenter? Or is Infocenter software only?
I'd rather have a web interface to a current copy than several PDFs of varying
age on the several desktops I use.
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A coworker has observed that if he connects to TSO/E via VTAM then
disconnects (pulls the plug; not logs out), he can reconnect. If he
connects via tn3270 and attempts to reconnect, he gets a new
session.
I can reproduce this. Furthermore, if I logon initially with VTAM, then
pull the plug, I
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:14:58 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dz9zr009.pdf
Sept 2012.
Isn't that what I said I *didn't* want?
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Is/are the P[ro]Ops available via Infocenter? Or is Infocenter software
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 22:50:58 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
What makes the difference? We'd like to spare the overhead of running
VTAM on a separate (VM, in this case) host.
Ah - I suspect you mean that you are using virtual local 3270s provided by VM.
Regardless, you can't connect to TSO
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 06:30:43 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
The relevant fact was that I overlooked something[1]. You assumed that
it was deliberate; nothing remotely like checking your facts.
[1] Well, that plus misleading text in the manual.
Cite. I saw only an apparent excerpt with
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 06:39:14 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
on 01/22/2014 at 08:21 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:14:58 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
http://publibfi.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dz9zr009.pdf
Sept 2012.
Isn't that what I said I *didn't
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 07:35:19 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
Having said that, we are considering a convention under which symbol
values can be longer than the symbol name, with the user's understanding
that any truncation that results may be ignored.
I would much favor a convention that reports the
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 11:40:09 -0600, John McKown wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Mark Pace wrote:
I'm applying some maintenance and noted an ACTION item on a PTF.
*If /dev/null currently has a file tag, issue chtag -r /dev/null before
APPLY to remove the file tag.
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:25:22 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
I would much favor a convention that reports the truncation as an error.
Then it's up to the caller to handle or ignore it.
I don't disagree with your preference, but you are talking about changing
thousands or millions of lines of code,
I'm in a thread on MVS-OE about a bug that suggests that
Unix System Services is CVTLSO-ignorant. Tests and
statistics welcomed. Rexx:
address TSO time; address SH date; address TSO time
(also, possibly dump CVTLSO; it's probabably in Data Areas,
somewheres. I'd expect either 0 or
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 13:40:16 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
On 25/01/2014 3:52 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
Most mainframe modernization efforts are rooted in Java.
That's because there are no viable alternatives. It probably wouldn't be
the case if there was a zIIP enabled Ruby on Rails, Python Django or
On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:12:55 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
Further clarification:
Today: If IEASYMxx tries to create a symbol with its value being too
long, it is rejected.
Tomorrow: That same definition would be rejected similarly.
There would be a way to indicate I am creating this symbol and I
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 10:57:00 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
(Ed Jaffe) writes:
I've often wondered what the state of the mainframe would be today if
IBM had actually done a halfway decent job developing ISPF
Client/Server, mSys for Setup, and other similar GUI-based initiatives
from the
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:19:46 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
buffer overflow. ...
There already is such an indication. Return code 8 from ASASYMBM indicates
that there is not enough room in the target buffer for the substituted
result. That can occur, today, only if an exploiter provides their own
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 14:03:37 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote:
Replying to my own post (and top-posting at that): found the
problem. Needed to install 64-bit java. Done. Works.
Has anyone experience with UNXMIT on non-Windows platforms
(Linux, OS X, Solaris, ...)? IIRC, I tried once long ago on OS
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 17:19:46 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
Adding a new interface while retaining the old one.
That is not a choice that helps the preponderance of cases that exist
today. Changing to use a new interface is precisely what contributes to
the potentially large number of lines of code
On 2014-01-27, at 05:33, Hunkeler, Peter wrote:
I'm in a thread on MVS-OE about a bug that suggests that
Unix System Services is CVTLSO-ignorant. Tests and
statistics welcomed. Rexx:
address TSO time; address SH date; address TSO time
I just ran:
/* rexx */
address TSO time;
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:33:25 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer wrote:
... (if you manage to LINK between LE modules
with the help of MVS LINK or similar mechanisms, which is possible -
for example: we do all linkage between our LE modules, no matter which
language,
with a home grown mechanism which relies
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:45:14 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
To the question, Might this introduce behavior changes unanticipated
by end users?, the answer must of course be yes.
Such an end user could, for example, supply a buffer of length 2N
bytes, expecting confidently that the last N bytes would
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:10:04 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
On 1/27/2014 8:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
A matter of opinion, of course. If I had cautiously coded
PARM='WOMBAT._1',
I would be protected from the hypothetical change, but get a changed
behavior if I left WOMBAT undefined. I
On 2014-01-27, at 21:11, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 1/27/2014 9:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:10:04 -0500, Gerhard Postpischil wrote:
On 1/27/2014 8:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
A matter of opinion, of course. If I had cautiously coded
PARM='WOMBAT._1',
I would
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:14:30 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Two ampersands represent one ampersand in and only in a single-quote
framed string.
Thanks.
The use of SET statements can make some but not all of these problems
tractable, and I suspect that strengthening the concatenation
machinery
On 2014-01-28, at 07:13, Staller, Allan wrote:
The semi-colon ';' is invalid in JCL, (always has been). It should have been
a period. '.'
Thus amp;amp is invalid.
Had you read ahead in the thread before replying impulsively,
you would have seen that I spotted the error, not mine but
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:09:14 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
The customer requirements are (for use in such places as commands, JCL,
parmlib)
- to be able to have longer symbol names than 8 characters;
Hmmm. I was pleased to discover that while:
3 // SET ABCDEFGH='Short'
4 //STEP
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:51:57 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
on 01/28/2014 at 08:14 AM, John Gilmore said:
Two ampersands represent one ampersand in and only in a single-quote
framed string.
Nonsense!
//SYSUT1 DD DSN=amp;SPILL,...
Not so much. In a subsequent ply, which you
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