Re: Tls 1.2 and server authentiaction

Itschak Mugzach wrote: >Since the last ptfs applied last weekend, The server certificate CN is now >verified by Z/oS (the client). I know it is a normal behaviour of TLS, but >it has never been performed by z/os before. Eh? What you're saying makes no sense. Of course the server cert is

Re: JAVA started tasks?

Bill Giannelli wrote: >Does JAVA have any started tasks on z/OS? >We have a task that the vendor says needs JAVA "up" first. Not that I know of. We run Java stuff without starting any STC. Maybe they have one?? -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: The new requirement for Certificates to communicate with IBM -- A Journey

Tom Longfellow wrote, in part: >GIM44336S ** AN UNUSUAL CONDITION OCCURRED. GIMJVREQ - >java.net.SocketException: Write failed WRITE failed? That doesn't sound like a cert issue to me. Anyone know if gsktrace can be enabled for this? (Doubtful but it would sure help.) >As ugly as a Java

Re: Unix file system ownership

Gil wrote: >I worked at a place where TSO IDs were T||employee-number >and VM IDs were V||employee-number. >So they could tell. That sounds like the Newfie joke about the farmer who proudly told his neighbor that he cut the tail off of his cows.so he could tell the black one from the brown one!

Re: Mainframe help now available!

Bob Bridges wrote: >I don't know whether it's fair to say so, but top management is often >from the older crowd, and in their youth it was much more common for >workers to need the job and feel fortunate to be employed. Nowadays, >at least so it seems to me, many more people have a cussed

Re: The new requirement for Certificates to communicate with IBM -- A Journey

Tom Longfellow wrote, in part: >Now to be told by an acknowledged expert that the Intermediate Cert is NOT >needed. >For now I will just leave it on the ring since I went to all the trouble to >acquire it. Strongly recommend that once you get this working, you remove that cert. As I wrote

Re: The new requirement for Certificates to communicate with IBM -- A Journey

Charles added: >I would not generally expect the necessity of installing any intermediates on >the client side. I'd phrase it more strongly: you do NOT want intermediates on a client machine, because when they expire, nobody will notice until things don't work, and won't think to check them.

Re: Updated UNIX certification WAS: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

Seymour wrote, in part: >Long term we'll all wind up on URF-8, and the old issues will be replaced by >ne ones. Ah, good ol' URF-8, "Universally Rejected Format". (Yes, I know it was a typo for UTF-8!) -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Loss of access to z/VM USER DIRECT - Is there a Recovery path.

Do you have a privileged userid? Do you know where the minidisk is? If so, DEFINE MDISK is your friend. Also, there at least used to be an "undirect" utility that would read the object directory and recreate a file. No comments, of course, and I have no idea whether it's been maintained.

Re; CVT or PSA field with ever changing value?

Binyamin Dissen asked: >Is there some PSA/CVT field that most of the time where it is examined (not >talking microseconds here) the value will be different. PSA_TIME_ON_CP? Here's a Rexx snippet that displays it, seems to change every time I run it-not very scientific, but it's described in

Re: Searching for a process to clean my VTS

Every time I see this thread, I picture someone with a bucket and a sponge, wiping down a tape silo. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

Gil wrote: >OpenVM fork()? It's unforgivable that OpenVM provides >something it calls "fork", but which is not. Heh. When that came out, I got a bunch of Taco Bell sporks, drilled holes in them so I could hang them from paper clips, and handed them out at SHARE to the VM crowd to dangle off

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

FWIW (perhaps nothing), IBM solved the upgrade problem ~30 years ago for VM by separating the operating system nucleus (kernel) from the filesystem. That is, you can have multiple copies of the VM nucleus on various CMS (the end-user environment) minidisks, which CP (the hypervisor) knows how

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

Terri: Right. That’s been my point from the start: while a noble effort, it’s not going to get there without putting a LOT of work into changing the underpinnings. This is trying to fix a foundation problem by spackling and painting over it. Since it’s not even being discussed—folks seem to be

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

Jack Zukt wrote, in part: >The real problem, as I see it, is that drag and drop interfaces move you >away from the need to know what you are doing. That’s the *goal*. Do you know what the Windows installer is doing? Android? iOS? No you do not, beyond the high-level “putting in places” and

Re: Effective region

FYI, Radoslaw, that was getting the "current values 'from inside' of the task", to use your phrasing. So you could make this work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

Ah, ok, "since before GA". Cool. thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Introducing watsonx Day: an IBM TechXchange Virtual Event

Link: https://mailchi.mp/0a507e585f81/introducing-watsonx-day-an-ibm-techxchange-virtual-event?e=51c1e42714 This might or might turn out to be an interesting session, but somebody at IBM is asleep at the switch here. The email came from BeMyApp make...@bemyapp.com

Re: z/OS 3.1: Now UNIXR Certified

Timothy Sipples wrote: >z/OS 3.1 has already earned its UNIXR certification... >https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3693.htm Not tryna be contentious, just honestly confused: "already"? As opposed to what? I.e., what makes this an "already"?

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

Harris Randy wrote, in part: >I do understand the need to atract younger people to the mainframe. >What I don't understand is why IBM would take away a working method >(SERVERPAC) and force those of us with grey to learn something new >when we well know how to use what we already have in place.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

Beverly Caldwell wrote: >If zosmf is the answer what the hell was the question? I’m going to take that as a straight question. I assume the question was, “How do we make z/OS easier to install and maintain for folks who don’t have any grey hair yet?” This is essentially the same question that

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: zOSMF

Terri Shaffer wrote, in part: >This is the problem with z/OSMF and especially the new software >instance install BS, its trying to make it idiot proof, but everyones >SMS, volumes, catalogs, etc are all different and it doesn't work, or >not easily. This is the problem Windows had to overcome.

Re: Effective REGION

Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >Scenario: >Default REGION >REGION specified explicitely in JOB card (or in another similar way) >SMFLIMxx and/or IEFUSI. >Q: how to check effective REGION limit for the job/stc? Does this help? L R7,PSAAOLD-PSAaddress of ASCB USING ASCB,R7

Re: LENGTH OF in COBOL (was: ISPF HILITE Question)

Well, various folks have convinced me that I missed this back when I looked for it! I have a hazy memory of asking someone-not this list-about it and being told "No" but that might be wishful thinking. Hmm, it *had* been a while; I looked at the source, found this comment: *Given two

LENGTH OF in COBOL (was: ISPF HILITE Question)

Since when does COBOL have LENGTH OF? I looked for this about 12 years ago and didn't find it, wrote a tiny and trivial assembler function to do the same thing. Did I miss it, or is it new since then? Not that the code has needed any support, but I'm glad that if it ever becomes an issue, I

Re: Typo in "Summary of changes"?

Paul Gilmartin wrote, re >>Just curious-when does it bite you? >It broke a macro I wrote. I don't recall details. Went to SR. WAD. >With a sympathetic aside from development that while they sympathized >they found XEDIT logic so convoluted that they feared that any >attempted repair might

Re: Typo in "Summary of changes"?

Paul Gilmartin wrote, in part: >But I notice that in both XEDIT and Vim, Undo can >leave a spurious memorandum of a change. XEDIT has Undo? Since when? (No, it doesn't.) Did you mean the business where hitting ERASE EOF at the start of a line marks the MDT so XEDIT thinks the line has been

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

Charles Mills asked: >Got that, I think. What I was trying to ask is what is the difference >between them? Why would I choose one of those over the other? ? Because you need the more modern features (2.4.1) or you need/want to do your work from the MVS side (2.4)? I feel like I'm missing your

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

Charles Mills asked: >Question: what are the advantages and disadvantages of XL C/C++ 2.4.1 >W/D versus Open XL C/C++? Why might I choose to use one versus the >other? What I got from David’s note is that the later two versions are more modern and thus more compliant with current C standards.

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

Peter Farley wrote: >"Install bash" is not a possibility in some shops. IBM needs to make >bash available (and supported) in ALL delivered/updated z/OS systems, >as a standard part of z/OS, so that there is no choice in the matter. >Ditto for all the other necessary GNU utilities of course. Of

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

Peter Farley wrote: >Well, if Open XL C/C++ is the "wave of the future" then IBM had better >plan to also buy and integrate all of Rocket's GNU ports (especially >bash) because I for one can NOT work in that @#$%!^ POSIX "sh" they >supply at the moment. It is a hideous shell to try to work in. It

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

David Crayford wrote, in part: >2.4.1 is more than a slight update, it's a completely different >front-end. To make it more confusing there are three C/C++ compiler >products on z/OS. Yes, that is hella confusing. With similar names AND versions, at least for two of them. And it sounds

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

David Crayford wrote: >They're different products. I can't see a convergence as that would be >a high impact change to customers and would require Metal/C spinning >off. It's far more likely that XL 2.4.1 and Open XL C/C++ will >converge. Huh, something gave me the impression that 2.4.1

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Seymour, Since you seem to be getting upset about this academic discussion, I will bow out. No need for tsuris over this. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: POSIX(ON)

Thanks to a kind suggestion sent off-list, I now know this is because of a #pragma runopts ( POSIX(ON) ) in the source. The program in question evolved from another, where I am 100% sure the option was needed (it was a library, not a linked program) and I guess we just never realized it! So.

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Paul Gilmartin wrote, re endianness: >Isn't that a given: ? >(Even in right-to-left languages, which IBM does backward.) So it is, for UTF-8. When you’re dealing with UTF-16 and -32 it seems to matter and that’s what I was thinking of. Good

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

Linda, How do the two relate? Will the 2.4.1 USS-only version become the main path? Or will they converge? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

POSIX(ON)

We have a utility that has always required POSIX(ON), because it uses System SSL and other Unix-y stuff. In investigating something else today, I removed that-and the utility kept running. After scratching my head and verifying various stuff, I finally tried an explicit POSIX(OFF)-and it failed

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Seymour J Metz wrote, in part: >You seem to be confirming what I wrote; if the locale is UTF-8 then >your character data should be UTF-8. The ¬ character in UTF-8 has a >different encoding from the ¬ character in Unicode, so there is no >issue of a zero octet. '00AC'X is not a valid UTF-8 string.

Re: XLC version? [was: RE: XLC - Weak symbols]

Peter Farley asked some excellent questions that I'd also like to understand the answers to! I'm mostly replying to say "I don't know so don't expect answers from ME, alas". -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: XLC - Weak symbols

Neale Ferguson wrote, in part: >There's no #pragma weak in SC14-7308-40. What manual were you >referencing? I am on V2.4. SC31-5801-00, "Compiler Reference for XL C/C++ V2.4.1 for z/OS V2.4". Note the 2.4.1. The compiler seems to have two versions, traditional (pre-2.4.1) and "Open" (2.4.1 and

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Seymour J Metz wrote, in part: >> “AC” is meaningless in a Unicode context. >In the context of a Unicode code point, "AC" is a perfectly >unambiguous abbreviation for U+00AC. In any other context,not so much. No, it’s not: is that a byte x’AC’? Is this big- or little-endian? That’s why the U+

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Rony, that page is wonderful! Thanks. This one is sometimes useful as well: https://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/utf-8.cgi every time I go to use it I find the various descriptions a bit confusing (e.g, “Hex code point” vs. “Hex UTF-8 bytes”) but entering a known character makes it clear.

Re: Logical Nor (¬) in ASCII-based code pages?

Seymour J Metz wrote: >I've seen Logical Not () at AA and at AC. Are there and ASCII-based >code pages that have it at a third position? Put another way, is there >a third code point that ooRexx and Regina should recognize as ? And later: >UTF-8 is just a transform of Unicode, and the Unicode

Re: XLC - Weak symbols

Neale Ferguson write, in part: >Is it possible to declare a "weak" symbol with XLC? Which XL C? Looking at the compiler ref for 2.4.1, it includes #pragma weak (C only) but that doesn't mean you're using that version. -- For

Re: XLC inline assembler question

Thanks to all for the info! (Summary for the assembler list, since the action was all on IBM-MAIN: It won't hurt; might affect optimization slightly, but probably not worth worrying about.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: REXX parse parens

Frank Swarbrick wrote about trying to parse z/OS-style parameter lists, with nested parens, in Rexx. This has been a challenge since Rexx leapt from VM (where its parsing fits the normal command syntax). In part, I'd say that IF you can make statements about how things MUST be specified, you

Re: XLC inline assembler question

Doh, I of course meant -qasm not -dasm. From: Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 5:02 PM To: ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu; IBM Mainframe Assembler List (assembler-l...@listserv.uga.edu) Subject: XLC inline assembler question (Cross-posted to IBM-MAIN and the assembler list) When

XLC inline assembler question

(Cross-posted to IBM-MAIN and the assembler list) When compiling C programs with XLC, you need to specify the -dasm flag to have inline assembler code recognized as such. I can see PoE arguments for requiring that option; what isn't clear is whether there's any downside to it beyond the

Re: Card processing application

Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >I'm looking for card processing application. I mean a system which >support ATMs, POS (shop terminals), customers PIN & account >verification, etc. (note, full core-banking system is not an option). >Oh, z/OS based. :-) Fiserv has the former First Data's VisionPLUS. I

Re: XLC architecture level question

Gil wrote: >A default of "oldest currently supported" is of little use on the day >before end of support for that version. Better would be a form to >specify "whatever version for which support is guaranteed for N days >from the current date." Akin to the "find ... -mtime n". Eh? Why is it "of

Re: XLC architecture level question

Linda Chui wrote: >My colleague validated this issue. Yes, this is a documentation error. >The default should be the same as the ARCH option description >mentioned (page 63). We have notified our content editor to >update/correct our docs. >Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

XLC architecture level question

SC14-7307-40, the z/OS 2.4 XL C/C++ User's Guide, says on PDF page 63 that ARCH(10) is the default. However, on PDF page 580, it also says: Architecture target is set according to the last-found instance of the -qarch compiler option, provided that the specified -qarch setting is compatible with

Re: Images rather than etext

Bob Bridges wrote, in part: >When I first started reading the reasons we should all adopt Windows, >two of the reasons didn't impress me. One was the "consistent user >interface". I'd been using WordPerfect, Lotus 1-2-3, Harvard Graphics >etc, and of course the mainframe, and I didn't see any

Re: Tape compression and modern encryption facilities.

John Young wrote, in part: >Nowadays, we've got pervasive encryption on z/OS. As a result, any >data that is backed up (for instance, ADRDSSU/FDR), is already >encrypted. You have data set encryption. "Pervasive encryption" is a strategy, not a product or feature. And it's not that *any*

Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall

(This was a few days ago and got lost in the mess until now, sorry) Eric Rossman wrote, in part: >While it usually implies "hardware" when we leave out the slash, that >is not always the case. zPLX is classified as software ("PL/X on >System z" is my best take). "IBM z Systems Advanced Workload

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

And because curiosity is a thing and so is the Interwebs, I looked re Ice Pirates and this review supports what I'd heard. That doesn't make it true, but increases the odds: https://fictionmachine.com/2018/02/13/review-the-ice-pirates-1984/ (Yes, we're a wee bit off-topic, although arguing

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

Bob Bridges wrote: >Wow, that looks REALLY bad! Even for 1974. Bob, it was a comedy. And a great one-I saw it first-run or thereabouts and have VERY fond memories of it. Opening scene, which first Star Wars movie kind of borrowed, has the ship moving majestically across the screen. Then it

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

Matt Hogstrom wrote: >I don't believe AI "learned" anything but rather adjusted the >algorithms based on a set of changes in probability of what >the algorithm has ingested and processed for its LLM. So now we're really getting into epistemology: is that not what 'learning' comprises? That's a

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

Rex Pommier wrote: >Here's a different take on AI taking over and wiping out humanity. Last >month an AI chatbox allegedly convinced a Belgian man to commit suicide >after convincing him that if he "sacrificed himself", the chatbox could >save mankind from climate change. Obviously the guy had

Re: AI wipes out humanity?

I think that when it's time to railroad, people are gonna railroad, aka the genie doesn't go back in the bottle. All the calls for a "moratorium" are silly: there's no way to enforce one, so it's just a waste of time. Spend the effort looking for ways to mitigate/avoid the risks, don't pretend

Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall

Michael Schmitt wrote: >Anyone have an idea of what the actual name of zPLX is? No, but if it's "zPLX", that means IBM considers it hardware. Software would be "z/PLX". Besides being pedantic, this is an interesting distinction here: some stuff, e.g., zAware, that seems like it's software

Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall

Schmitt, Michael asked, re PL/X: >Then what do you call the current version? Looks like PL/X might still be the name, though this is hardly a very complete page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PL/S -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Fascinating Interview with Steve Jobs [non-mainframe] - now Gary Kildall

On 4/4/2023 10:09 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote: > The language I'd be interested in is PL/X 390. ~1992 (don't hold me to that date), IBM announced that PartnerWorld was now pay-to-play, $5K/year. We gritted our teeth and ponied up. One of the benefits of the new scheme was that you could now get

Re: CLIST but not REXX

Bob Bridges wrote, in part: >2) The ability to interact live with subsystems. In CLIST I can start an> FTP session and interact with it, grabbing FTP's responses and deciding on> the fly what command to issue next. In REXX I have to queue up an entire> session, then call FTP and decide afterward

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please

Michael Schmitt wrote, in part: >REXX is so much better but I want to ask Mike Cowlishaw >what he was thinking in making uninitialized variables >default to their own name. While as a programmer I agree with you, I'm pretty sure I know the answer: Rexx was designed to be usable by

Re: Stop the ragging on COBOL please

Steve Thompson wrote, in part: >Oh, I haven't had to deal with it for a while, but as I recall >there is a function that CLIST can do that REXX couldn't (well >back in the 1990s). I wonder if that is still true. Perhaps easily parsing a typical TSO command: verb arg1(value1) arg2(value2a,value2b)

Re: Check my math?

Steve Smith added: >Seems reasonable to me. Don't forget to add the shorts (node length <8). To summarize: 8-character node: 29*(40**7) 4,751,360,000,000 7-character node: 29*(40**6) 118,784,000,000 6-character node: 29*(40**5) 2,969,600,000 5-character node: 29*(40**4)

Question for our international friends (mostly)

How do you say "CICS"? In my experience, Americans mostly say "see-eye-see-ess"; Brits say "kicks"; Canadians are a mixture; and Italians say "cheeks" (which makes perfect sense, following Italian pronunciation rules). If your native language isn't English, how do YOU say it? This is just a

Bad backup stories (was: Re: Ransomware in VSAM and DB2)

Since we're swapping bad backup stories. I'm at a small mainframe vendor, mid-90s. Data center manager quits with no notice because boy genius sociopath CFO tell him at the last minute that he can't take long-planned, prepaid vacation trip because CFO wants him there for something stupid. This

Re: DATASET encryption POC

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw kindly wrote: >I think you have switched forums Phil. >This stream started on RACF-L Right you are! Sorry about that. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: DATASET encryption POC

Eric D Rossman wrote, in part: >Not really. Can you give me a reasonable use case where having the >encrypted data would be of ANY use to you? There is nothing to >compare/correlate. Since the data is (maybe compressed) and encrypted, >there is nothing to look at other than the length of a given

Re: CS/CDS instruction

Ituriel do Neto asked: >Is there a similar instruction to CS or CDS, but using 64 bits register ? CSG/CDSG. Look at Principles of Operation. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Full TRAP feature support [was: RE: Re: z/OS 3.1 Announcement US Letter]

Traditionally, the business case would have been that a debugging facility like this led to increased ability to exploit the platform, thus leading to more usage and more sales. Whether that still applies-whether IBM is interested in that for IBM zSystems-is unclear. With cloud, cloud, and more

IBM's Fall From World Dominance

https://spectrum.ieee.org/ibms-fall-from-world-dominance Not negative overall, just recognizing that things have changed, for the most part. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Are JNI required to be re-entrant and/or re-usable?

I feel stoopid[er than usual]: I don't understand the difference between "serially reusable" vs. "reusable" vs. "reentrant" in this context. I know what the first and last one are, but it seems like the middle one should be the same as one of the others. Unless the difference between the

Re: 3420 conversion?

Tony, IBM Sterling Forest used to have tape drives dating back to the stone age for just this purpose. No idea what the process is to use them, if indeed they still exist. Is a 40-year-old tape going to be physically readable? I have no idea, but wonder. I have some 30-year-plus tapes in

Re: I want to cry

Well, now that we've devolved to swapping histories: I first used a keypunch when I was four, in 1965. My dad rented one and had it installed in the house because he was working on a concordance program. His first project was Beowulf, and he needed the text to be input, which my mother

Re: Markup languages

Shmuel wrote: >Oddly enough, one of the reasons that I use markup languages is that >the documents are easy to maintain; adding text doesn't break formatting. I don't find this odd at all! I miss markup, especially for books. Trying to do consistency checks in FrameMaker or *shudder* Word is

Re; Rexx function STORAGE with weird behavior on Netview

A local Rexx function doesn't override a BIF unless it's in the same Rexx program. At least, not that I've ever seen. This seems like it should be easy to diagnose: just write a tiny program that just does that storage() call and trace it.

Re: Interpreting SEND/RECV CIPHERs

Carmen Vitullo wrote: >gsktrace - Darn. Was hoping for something else to use! Component trace looks tricky. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Interpreting SEND/RECV CIPHERs

Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I have had great results, clear to understand even for me, using an SSL TRACE >I have documented the process I used if needed Is that gsktrace or the component trace? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Interpreting SEND/RECV CIPHERs

A gsktrace is pretty easy to get and format. If it's an LE application, then in your LE options you can put: ENVAR(GSK_TRACE=0X,GSK_TRACE_FILE=/u/fred/myssltrace.file) Otherwise I assume just setting those environment variables should work. Then after you run the thing (and it fails)

Re: Why email from z/OS SMTP rejected by Gmail?

Charles wrote about a message rejected by Gmail with a 550 "Messages missing a valid messageId header are not accepted" error. I assume/imagine this is more anti-spam, and this thread supports that:

Re: Interpreting SEND/RECV CIPHERs

Can you tell us a bit more about the environment? So far you're mostly saying "Something didn't work." Is there any AT-TLS involved? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Computers

Tom Brennan wrote: >I never knew each section of a computer had its own distinct sound. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukyHECjKDoQ Tsk. You don't have those sounds on your PC? Srsly, this was great! A classic. I laughed, I cried. I give it ten stars.

Re: Storage protection keys

This "Z is just Power" rumor has been around for quite a while, repeatedly debunked, yet it persists. Anyone know where it came from? I've always assumed that there were some gross similarities, and that some journo took that and made it into "they're the same thing", but I have no real idea.

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

Anyone else snicker at this, remembering how around 1999-2000 every SHARE Expo had a couple of new 3270 emulator vendors, who would show up once and never be heard from again? Not saying this Python version is a bad thing-it's a mature market and due for an Open Source replacement. Just funny

The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

https://www-theregister-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theregister.com/AMP/2 022/11/02/cloud_magic_era_ends/ Funny, nobody said this about timesharing back in the day. (yeah, yeah, EVERYTHING was different, but still) -- For

Industry pioneer Kathleen Britten Booth

.died recently: https://www.honoraryunsubscribe.com/kathleen-britten-booth/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Booth 100 years old! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: IBM python documentation?

Shmuel asked: > BTW, has usage shifted from ISO-8859-1 (Latin 1) to ISO-8859-15 (Latin-9) to > accomodate the Euro €? Not that I’ve noticed, though it may be that they’re really doing -15 and calling it -1. Have not looked at Encoding headers to see. Not to trivialize it—it’s an important

Re: IBM python documentation?

David Crayford expounded on some issues with UTF-8 *on z/OS* and _BPX_AUTOCVT=ALL. All legitimate, all real problems, but really z/OS issues, not UTF-8 issues. That is, these don't reflect problems with UTF-8 itself. What we see all the time is data that's ISO8859-1 and is treated as 7-bit ASCII

Re: IBM python documentation?

Tony Harminc wrote: >There *was* something called UTF-EBCDIC, but IBM and UNICODE seem to have >abandoned it shortly after it was written. > > https://unicode.org/reports/tr16/tr16-7.2.html >I've never understood why there was so little interest

Re: IBM python documentation?

Jay Maynard wrote: >OK, so what kind of issues are there with UTF-8? Especially since it's >pretty much the standard everywhere, these days? Yeah, that caught my eye too. I suspect the answer is that *mixing* UTF-8 and EBCDIC gets complicated because you cannot always convert: e.g., if you

Re: Output redirection

Peter Sylvester wrote: >A batch job might be your friend? Well duh! I should have thought of that. For anyone else who might be as thick as I am: //REDIRECT JOB MSGLEVEL=(1,1),MSGCLASS=A,NOTIFY= // EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PHS.PDS.DATA(REDIRECT)

Output redirection

I had cause to use RLIST UNIXMAP * ALL, but the output was voluminous. "No problem", thinks I, "I'll just redirect it to a file". But that only got me some truncated output plus: IKJ56652I You attempted to run an authorized command or program. This is not supported under the Dynamic TSO

Re: Certificate problem

Colin Paice replied, basically confirming what I'd found. In retrospect it all feels silly but ain't that usually the case? Thanks again! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Certificate problem

Charles Mills wrote: >Where did this self-signed certificate come from? What tool generated it? It was internally generated. That's all I know. It's a test system. >Case should not be a problem in a self-signed certificate. Technically I guess it is possible but you would almost have to do

Re: Certificate problem

Carmen Vitullo asked: >Phil, was this output from an SSL trace? Yes. >IIRC there's usually more data related to a cert error, it's been 7, or >8 years since I ran the trace but usually the trace data >shows the TLS version also, it's a stretch but are you running TSL 1.1 >or higher?

Re: Certificate problem

Attila Fogarasi kindly replied suggesting a case problem, which I'm perfectly willing to believe but don't have any idea how to verify. Nothing LOOKS off. Meanwhile, some more digging suggests that it may be that the error message is actually correct and clear, FSVO clear! If I run openssl

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