On 7/5/20 11:31 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
P.S. - At least in my mail client, your email address in the message
headers is the listserv web interface, AFAIK it is not possible to
email you privately at that address.
Thank you for letting me know.
gtaylor (at) tnetconsulting (dot) net
I
least in my mail client, your email address in the message headers
> is the listserv web interface, AFAIK it is not possible to email you
> privately at that address.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
> Grant Taylor
> Sent:
I say yes to a Mainframe co-op. It could morph into a very useful thing over
time.
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On 7/4/20 6:27 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> If anybody gets upset it will be because of "just because you feel
> z/OS ought to be free (as in beer"; few if any posters here have
> su
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On 7/4/20 6:27 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> If anybody gets upset it will be because of "just because you feel
>
On 7/4/20 6:27 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
If anybody gets upset it will be because of "just because you feel
z/OS ought to be free (as in beer"; few if any posters here have
suggested such a belief. What I have seen is posters asking for
affordable hobbyist license fees.
Agreed.
I'm not the
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Brian Westerman [brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:08 AM
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Before anyone gets upset, this is ONLY my opinion, I'm not trying to force
anyone to do or b
Before anyone gets upset, this is ONLY my opinion, I'm not trying to force
anyone to do or believe things the way I do, so please don't flame me just
because you feel z/OS ought to be free (as in beer) just because you want to
use it and don't think you should have to pay. I'm sure there are
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 11:45, Grant Taylor
<023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> I find it very difficult to believe that some business couldn't rent out
> tiny z/VM guests as VPSs for < $100 a month. Limited resources (storage
> / CPU / DASD) would be perfectly fine for
On 7/3/20 4:41 AM, R.S. wrote:
1. (Some) people like to "hack", break rules, be wilful.
I strongly suspect that a personal tiny guest VM would suffice for most
in this camp. I know it would for me.
So, "illegal" Hercules with illegal z/OS is just fancy for them.
There are some that
+1
Charles
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On 7/2/20 11:34
On 7/2/20 11:34 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
How much would a hobbyist pay for a Harley, a really nice drone, or
some of the other expensive hobbies.
I don't have figures handy, but I strongly suspect that all of the above
don't average out at $5,000 a year. I suspect they come in considerably
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I see you have a lot of free time and you decided to spend it on
pointless quarrels.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 03.07.2020 o 15:45, Seymour J Metz pisze:
> You made a general comment that was o
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W dniu 03.07.2020 o 13:36, Seymour J Metz pisze:
The problem is not in the money, not only here.
Speak for yourself
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W dniu 03.07.2020 o 13:36, Seymour J Metz pisze:
The problem is not in the money, not only here.
Speak for yourself. Others are more honest, and the problem *is* the money.
Maybe you've never had to live on a budget, but for some of us $5K is not chump
change.
Speak for yourself. Others may
tz3
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W dniu 03.07.2020 o
W dniu 03.07.2020 o 07:34, Brian Westerman pisze:
How much would a hobbyist pay for a Harley, a really nice drone, or some of the
other expensive hobbies. People pay upwards of $1K a year for a new phone. I
did get a discount on that, but I suppose you are correct, if you can't justify
the
And what?
Did IBM build such versions? NO!
Is it possible to do it? Well IBM dislike Hercules a lot. However they
didn't try to do it. Last, but not least: Hercules is hardware emulator.
Such problem would mean issue with the emulation (found and used by
IBM), which is probably feasible to be
How much would a hobbyist pay for a Harley, a really nice drone, or some of the
other expensive hobbies. People pay upwards of $1K a year for a new phone. I
did get a discount on that, but I suppose you are correct, if you can't justify
the cost, then it might seem too much. Although, the
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On 7/1/20 10:19 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
> You can join developerworks and license z/PDT, which is what I and
> most people do. It's not that expensive, and it won't kill you like
> buying that big o
On 7/1/20 10:19 PM, Brian Westerman wrote:
You can join developerworks and license z/PDT, which is what I and
most people do. It's not that expensive, and it won't kill you like
buying that big old Harley-Davidson will.
Does joining DevelperWorks change the pricing?
Because z/PDT (or
I forgot to mention that there are directions for copying DASD on the CBTtape
file 659.
Brian
On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 05:31:27 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>Hercules isn't nobbled. I know a bloke who knows a bloke who runs Hercules
>and zOS 2.3. This bloke told me that the other bloke did
Maybe you are forgetting the whole backwards compatibility thing.
Do you really think IBM is worried about a bunch of hobbyists writing code or
reliving their youth on mainframes because they have some "lost" revenue in
that area?
You can join developerworks and license z/PDT, which is what
No, it works with z/OS 2.4, well, there is a small issue, but it's being
resolved.
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 20:01:41 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>Didn't IBM nobble Hercules with recent versions of z/OS which had
>propriety enablement? Basically kills it!
>
>On 2020-07-01 7:32 PM, R.S. wrote:
>> And
Hercules isn't nobbled. I know a bloke who knows a bloke who runs Hercules
and zOS 2.3. This bloke told me that the other bloke did ADRDSSU volume
dumps and a restore at the other end.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, 03:47 Tom Brennan wrote:
> It wasn't me! I keep forgetting to lock up my computer when I
It wasn't me! I keep forgetting to lock up my computer when I leave my
desk. http://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/toms_computer.png
On 7/1/2020 5:53 AM, David Crayford wrote:
On 2020-07-01 8:26 PM, John McKown wrote:
And what?
I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous
"And what?"
How about ... and IBM builds in things to the next release of z/os that
make it completely impossible for it to run on Hercules? Or z/VM? or z/VSE?
Joe
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM R.S. wrote:
> And what?
> I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email.
>
W dniu 01.07.2020 o 14:53, David Crayford pisze:
On 2020-07-01 8:26 PM, John McKown wrote:
And what?
I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email.
Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message?
Using TOR (The Onion Router), it would be very difficult to get to
On 2020-07-01 8:26 PM, John McKown wrote:
And what?
I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email.
Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message?
Using TOR (The Onion Router), it would be very difficult to get to your
specific IP address.
haha! How many IBMMAIN
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:33 AM R.S. wrote:
> And what?
> I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email.
> Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message?
>
Using TOR (The Onion Router), it would be very difficult to get to your
specific IP address.
> IBM is aware
Didn't IBM nobble Hercules with recent versions of z/OS which had
propriety enablement? Basically kills it!
On 2020-07-01 7:32 PM, R.S. wrote:
And what?
I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email.
Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message?
IBM is aware of
And what?
I can subscribe to IBM-MAIN using John Doe and some anonymous email.
Will they track the IP from Joh Doe sent the message?
IBM is aware of illegal users of Hercules + some current OS. They also
know a lot of Hercules users are IBMers.
No, it is nothing pro and against Hercules,
Hi Mike and Joe,
This is to inform you that they have it working now and we suspect that it
might have been the process in transmitting DASD volume to Hercules that was
causing issues but the good thing is that is working.
Your continous support and responses are very much appreciated,
What version of Hercules? Only a few latest versions support a volume that big.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:41 PM Jasi Grewal wrote:
>
> Hi Mike and Joe,
>
> Sorry about not providing model but is Model 27 rescue volume and I created 1
> Rescue z/OS v2r3 System.
> I will get my IBM friends to
Hi Mike and Joe,
Sorry about not providing model but is Model 27 rescue volume and I created 1
Rescue z/OS v2r3 System.
I will get my IBM friends to look for tapeconv.jcl on z/OS IBM System and then
use that instead of using IBM zVM DDR+Terse.
Your continous support and responses are very much
what model DASD?
Joe
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 9:00 AM Jasi Grewal wrote:
> Thank You Mike for response and am an IBM Retiree and continues to work
> with IBMers.
> I am requesting IBMers to verify the Licensing and the message we are
> getting is that it cannot find PLPA dataset and yet the
Can you download a rescue IPL volume to define the dataset? Or
download an idled Paging pack with this on it and add to
configuration? Being in use may have made the copy bad.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 2:00 PM Jasi Grewal wrote:
>
> Thank You Mike for response and am an IBM Retiree and continues
Thank You Mike for response and am an IBM Retiree and continues to work with
IBMers.
I am requesting IBMers to verify the Licensing and the message we are getting
is that it cannot find PLPA dataset and yet the same IPL v2r3 volser was able
to IPL v2r3 System successfully under the IBM
Call from the IBM Lawyers in 3... 2... 1...
Joe
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 5:35 AM Jasi Grewal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am sorry I am just learning Hercules Systems and trying to migrate one
> of my z/OS DASD Systems from Mainframe to Hercules Environment.
> I have z/VM running on Hercules but when I
If you are only testing on Hercules and will continue to run
production on IBM z series hardware, I believe IBM doesn't care. But
the SOFTWARE does check the hardware levels and you have to include a
particular configuration statement for a recent Z operating system to
run on Hercules. But if
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Hi,
I am sorry I am just learning Hercules Systems and trying to migrate one of my
z/OS DASD Systems from
Have you complied with the licensing requirements?
On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 05:25:23 -0500 Jasi Grewal wrote:
:>I am sorry I am just learning Hercules Systems and trying to migrate one of
my z/OS DASD Systems from Mainframe to Hercules Environment.
:>I have z/VM running on Hercules but when I tries
Hi,
I am sorry I am just learning Hercules Systems and trying to migrate one of my
z/OS DASD Systems from Mainframe to Hercules Environment.
I have z/VM running on Hercules but when I tries to IPL z/OS it seems that
there is a corruption and that is most probably cause of wrong process.
I
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