As we have been discussing, along with the move to the arachnelace.com
domain, we don’t really need the lace-chat list anymore.
the lace-chat archive files have been copied to the lace archive, and may be
retrieved from there, just send an index command and you’ll see them.
I am going to have
An answer!
So, I wrote to the author of the WSJ article, letting her know that some
lacemakers were having a lively discussion about what the other three lace
collections were and here's what she wrote:
Dear Arlene,
According to the pamphlet I received from the curators who organized "Th
much finer than any I have seen before and I am anxious to see how fine a
thread I can spin and hopefully use to make lace. Discussion in the group
seems to suggest that the potential fineness may also depend upon the point at
which the plant is harvested, as well as the subsequent steps (ret
Yes most definitely the thread for lace was hand spun. The early needle laces
were made using hand spun linens which have long fibres.
Anna from a windy Sydney who has just learnt to spin wool
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> Hi Devon &am
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Hi Devon & all,
I’m not sure if this will make it to the list because I’m one of those
hangers-on still using AOL, but on a somewhat off-topic point, I was taken by
Devon’s comments about how fine some lace threads were. While visiting the
V some years ago, the same thoughts occurred t
Dear Nancy, Arlene and fellow Arachnids,
I was also puzzled by the claim that there are four great lace collections and
wondered what they were. I had it in mind to contact the Wall Street Journal
writer and ask her to tell me. However, I imagine this was information
contained in a press packet
V Met? and maybe Cleveland???
My guesses...
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
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> In this review, it says "Today, there are four great lace collections in
> the
> world and the Textilmuseum's is one of them." My question is:
Hello, all -
I was very fortunate to see in person the Threads of Power exhibit at the Bard
Graduate Center a few weeks back at the wonderful lace day. If you are
anywhere near NYC between now and Jan 1, run don't walk to see it! The
book/catalog is PHENOMENAL and I keep returning to it in little
the Hallmark Channel. If anyone knows any other way
of viewing these movies, pleas let us know
Sue
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> right?
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> https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/the-wedding-veil
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> Subject: Re: [lace] Burano Needle Lace in Hallmark movie!
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>> Thanks for the additional informatio
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Subject: Re: [lace] Burano Needle Lace in Hallmark movie!
Thanks for the additional information. It certainly sounds like movies I’d
like to see but I don’t have access to the Hallmark channel. I may be able
to view it online.
It’s encouragin
Wedding Veil Unveiled
> Third is The Wedding Veil Legacy
>
> (I went to your link. You need to scroll down quite a bit and read the
> paragraph titles to find the 3 names. Bad copywriting!)
>
> Adele
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Thanks for the additional information. It certainly sounds like movies I’d
like to see but I don’t have access to the Hallmark channel. I may be able
to view it online.
It’s encouraging that lace making is becoming more known. Perhaps it is a
sign the lace organizations and public displays
ote:
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> It looks as if the film is simply called "The Wedding Veil". Is that
> right?
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> https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/the-wedding-veil
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> Sue
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It looks as if the film is simply called "The Wedding Veil". Is that
right?
https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/the-wedding-veil
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Yes, I saw that, too! Was wondering how accurate the scenes in Burano were, as
I’ve never been there, but they certainly looked right.
The first movie was made in the Vancouver area, and one of the props
assistants contacted our lace club to ask if we could give them advice as to
what a late 19th
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> I received an answer from Gil Dye, and she says it is very probably early
> 1600's She said it looks a lot like some metal lace on a mantle dated
> reliably to 1620, and that the more complex laces were early 1600s rather
> than late 1500s, although she didn't comple
Hi everybody,
I received an answer from Gil Dye, and she says it is very probably early
1600's She said it looks a lot like some metal lace on a mantle dated
reliably to 1620, and that the more complex laces were early 1600s rather
than late 1500s, although she didn't completely rule out
Hello Everyone
I made it to the Lace Festival last weekend and had a wonderful weekend
. It was fantastic to be able to see some old friends and to meet and
make some new ones.
On Saturday there were five speakers on "Lace Looking Forward". Elena
Kanagy-Loux from U
Dear Alice,
Your friend has several options to line her jacket. She does need to support
the lace in some way. She could use a fashion fabric that she particularly
likes and then overlay the lace. If she simply wants to line it, silk organza
makes a light-weight lining. If she wants
Afternoon All,
I am very quiet on this list though the lace festival  here in Sydney
certainly has got my attention. I am a member of the Embroidererâs Guild
here in Sydney and look forward to seeing it all in reality very soon.Â
The gallery space has only been opened for a short time
have my fingers crossed that that does not
happen. April from the Embroiderers Guild who appears in the Video has
done a wonderful job of putting this exhibition together.
Dawn Howell
On 5/02/2021 10:12 am, Arlene Cohen wrote:
Hello, all -
There is an amazing lace exhibit happening now
.
"My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members,
please ignore it. I read your emails."
>
>Athena is goddess of weaving, but Arachne in Greek mythology was a mortal
>weaver who got so good she challenged Athena, with the usual repercussions.
>
>Bobbin
I agree with the first part of Adele’s message. There isn’t a goddess of lace
because lacemaking postdates the age of specific gods and goddesses. Even in
more modern polytheistic cultures this would be the case because there is no
evidence (as far as I’m aware) of any lace existing prior
Personally I identify most with the namesake of this very list, Arachne!
Technically she wasn’t a goddess, but as we all know she was a weaver who was
turned into a spider so I’ve always thought of her as a patroness of lace. :)
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Athena is goddess of weaving, but Arachne in Greek mythology was a mortal
weaver who got so good she challenged Athena, with the usual repercussions.
Bobbin lace is a form of weaving without a fixed warp, so lacemakers in
modern times have adopted Arachne (we're mortals), hence the name of our
How about Arachne?
Devon
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saints in
other areas. But they would only be saints, not goddesses.
If we don’t already have one, then I would suggest we could choose one if we
wanted to. My vote would go to Aphrodite, the Greek goddess of love and beauty.
Not only is lace beautiful, but Google assures me that the root word
I’ve just been asked who the Goddess of Lace is. Never having heard of her, I
thought I’d go to the experts.
Is there a Goddess of Fishnets? Or Knots? or Weaving?
Do we start with Greeks or Romans? Or Egyptians? Or Celtic or Norse?
Martha
in Oregon
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Up to now I haven't shared the lace events I organise for the railway where
I'm a volunteer in North Wales on Arachne, as up to this year they have been
held on site, so not easily accessible for most of the list. However, with the
lockdowns and travel restrictions we've had this year, I decided
In yesterday's mail I received the most intricate Christmas ornament made
in lace and beads from Celia Mulhearn. It is a work of art! Thank you,
Celia, and thank you, Lin, for arranging the exchange,
Sally Jenkins, Creswell, Oregon
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I love Mary's web site! I can get lost there. I especially love her stitch
samplers, though I haven't tried one. I've wondered about using some of her
patterns for lace as well.Liz R in Missouri
...Mary Corbet has reinterpreted an old tape lace pattern for embroidery, but
I thought some of us
I'm sorry but no. You can read her article here:
https://www.needlenthread.com/2020/11/free-embroidery-design-lace-reinterpreted.html
Sue
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Sue, thank you for sharing this information. It's a lovely design. Is there
perhaps a picture of the original lace that Mary Corbet sourced for this
reinterpretation?
Deborah
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> On Nov 13, 2020, at 9:37 AM, Sue Babbs wrote:
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> For those of us who enjo
Yes Mary's website and blog are places to get lost in for a long time.
She is so generous with her time and knowledge
Sue
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For those of us who enjoy working Battenburg type tape lace, the
embroiderer Mary Corbet has reinterpreted an old tape lace pattern for
embroidery, but I thought some of us might enjoy it for lacemaking!
https://www.needlenthread.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/lace-reinterpreted-hand
Dear Liz and Other Arachnids,
I accidentally (well, you wouldn't do it on purpose, would you) made a 1cm
cut in the lace on the very first handkerchief edge I ever mounted. In
desperation I stuck the edges together with Aquadhere (PVA glue) - 35+ years
later, there has been no change in colour
rom in-person teaching but a lot
> better than no teaching at all as far as I am concerned. I practice by
> logging into a second device from a different email account so I can see
> what the students see. In Zoom I have bought a subscription so I can stay
> on for more than 40 minute
I'm following this thread with great interest and am about to start my
first virtual lace class as a student. It is needle lace instead of bobbin
lace, so it will be interesting to see what challenges are unique to lace
made in the hand vs on a pillow. Somehow students will need to arrange
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no teaching at all as far as I am concerned. I practice by
logging into a second device from a different email account so I can see
what the students see. In Zoom I have bought a subscription so I can stay
on for more than 40 minutes at a time. Some lace guilds here have invested
in that, so the
Thank you very much, Karen.
But how do you do as a teacher? imagine you have 8 students making the lace
you are teaching, and that each of them has a different difficulty or are
doing something wrong. But you cannot take their pillow... They have good
diagrams, and pictures of the finished lace
I think there are a couple of other advantages to online classes. It might be
possible to get teachers from far away to give classes in the Americas. Also,
in Europe and Britain, where there are many more lace makers, weekly classes
are common. Zoom plus a phone camera makes that relatively
Hello all,
I realize I need to clarify my response to the virtual lace classes.
As a student, I have a large monitor, such as a desktop, laptop, or iPad
in front of me to watch the demonstrations, and for the teacher to see me.
Then I have a second camera, such as a phone, mounted over my lace
We began with Meet. It worked well until we tried
to mount a second camera to show bobbin lace pillows.
It is challenging to get a second camera mounted
without the issue of feedback on Meet. It can be
done, but adds an extra layer of frustration for
the students.
Zoom seems to have addressed
their pillow and show where they meet a problem? Do
> > you think it is necessary that they buy an extra camera? How do you do
> it?
> >
> > Thank you very much for talking about this issue, which is really
> necessary
> > now with our general situation.
> >
> > Have
w with our general situation.
>
> Have a nice week,
>
> Greetings from Antje González, Spain
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for the thoughts so far. If any one else has thoughts or has
come up with things that work without a lot of extra devices I would
love to hear about them.
Thanks!
bobbi
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Some of my random thoughts on virtual lace classes: Having both taught and
taken several virtual lace classes, I think they are here to stay. There
are both positives and negatives as with most things in life. I like that
people can join from anywhere in the world without the expense and time
to each and everyone of you.
Hugs, Lin and the Mali
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check things or use accented
characters, but I know it wasn't exactly right!
Best,
Elena
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s,
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> I hope you are all well!
> Brooklyn Lace Guild has just received an email from a fine art student in
> Melbourne Australia who is interested in crocheted lace. She read about my
> experiences winning a grant to travel across Europe in 2015 and is
> interested in doing
Hello Elena
Could you please get me in touch with her. The Australian Lace Guild has a
Grant scheme that might help her.
Dawn in Melbourne Australia.
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> Elena,
> For more information on this topic, I woul
this, and there is a tradition in France, as
well.
Kim
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Dear Arachnids,
I hope you are all well!
Brooklyn Lace Guild has just received an email from a fine art student in
Melbourne Australia who is interested in crocheted lace. She read about my
experiences winning a grant to travel across Europe in 2015 and is
interested in doing something similar
Southard for making it possible for me to
acquire this stunning pricking !!! I am totally hooked on Bucks point lace!
Without the wonderful English authors of Bucks point instruction manuals and
prickings, I would never have discovered the joy and beauty of this lace.
Self taught in rural America
ecial craft schools under auspices of state; probably a teacher's
demonstration piece."
Interesting! Are there lists of lace schools and teachers in Prague
anywhere? There must be, but my books are out of reach at the moment so I'd
appreciate any help.
Best Wishes,
Elena
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By the way, I have some better detail photos than the ones on the website
that I'm happy to share privately if you're interested! Just let me know.
Best,
Elena
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The website seems out of order. Some fragments are preserved at
https://web.archive.org/web/20190218211719/http://minicucadas.com/
> ... Spanish couple who work, miniature ... www.minicucadas.com
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Helen I know a Spanish couple who work, miniature lace the wife, and miniature
wood work the husband. One of their pieces is the little lace pillows with
lace.
As far as I know, she makes the lace on a traditional lace pillow and then
moves it to the miniature work, hanging the little bobbins
For this purpose I developed and moderate https://lacemap.github.io/
Anyone can drop me a line with feedback and additional contributions.
Jo
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My husband and I are planning a trip to Ireland, England, and Scotland in
July/August. While there, I would like to visit some lace shops and/or
museums, esp. where I might be able to find some special bobbins. In the past,
I made some bobbin lace and tatting. I have found out about two lace
shops
There is much talk in books of the privateers raiding ships of Spain and
taking cloth, lace and jewels from them to Elizabeth 1 in England who was
daughter to Henry V111.
Earlier than that Merchants who travelled between countries with spices and
whatever so why not lace fabric and other.
I
Having been at the Lace Guild Convention when Dr Yallop gave a talk on the
history and subsequently bought and read the book, I agree that his theory,
which relates to the history of the Honiton lace industry, makes more sense
than the much copied theories in Mrs Palliser's book that lacemaking
I wanted to write an article on this subject and got to the bottom of page 1
and gave up! (I think that is lucky for you!)
It all came about by me remembering the following blog that I have known
about for some time:
https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/huguenots-and-englands-lace-ma
written in the past.
Perhaps someone in your local guild belongs to OIDFA? I have all their
publications for the past 22+ years, and keep them because they publish so
many nice articles about lace all over the world. During this time-frame
(22+ years) there have been (or will be) Lace Congresses
to Europe next year, and the OIDFA Congress, I've been
looking for lace events and lace museums. So far I have Rauma, Finland,
Vadstena, Sweden, and Tonder, Denmark on my list.
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To help plan my trip to Europe next year, and the OIDFA Congress, I've been
looking for lace events and lace museums. So far I have Rauma, Finland,
Vadstena, Sweden, and Tonder, Denmark on my list.
1. Do you know of another place in Scandinavia with lace interest?
2. How do I contact someone
Liz and all
Maids Moreton is Just North of Buckingham, so right in the heart of the
county's lace tradition. On the village website
https://www.maids-moreton.co.uk/heritagewalk/ it says
Maids Moreton became the centre of the Bucks Lace industry during the late
19th century under the direction
So far, Bev Walker has the same pattern, different pricking. And the threads
are different—DMC metallic vs Madeira. Hope this helps. Susan
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ever met; I lived far
away and was learning from books when I discovered that a lace conference was
about to take place in Vancouver (this was 1981 or 1982). Jean was part of the
registration committee and she also made my first lace pillow, a straw-stuffed
Honiton, as I took an “Intro to Honiton
Our lace club meeting was today, and one member brought in a cardboard box she
was given, with a label “Jean Lucinda’s Lace Lessons” (hand-lettered; not a
commercial label).
The contents of the box suggest that this was a set of lessons you could
subscribe to, and that perhaps the teacher’s
Our very own world-renowned lace historian! Congratulations Brian!
https://eastdevonnews.co.uk/2019/09/19/englands-oldest-lace-bobbin-discovered-in-budleigh-salterton/
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I thought it would be easy to get a list of the above places where lace
makers were active, say in 1850? (+ or -) But so far I have failed.
I can get a couple of lists dated 1700 but that is too early for my
purposes.
I want to create a map (I learned how this afternoon!!) of these places
When we visited in August last year, the Museum of Applied Arts (MAK) in
Vienna, Austria, had a very large room where lace of many types was displayed.
There is an online collection:
https://sammlung.mak.at/en/collection_online?=lace
Incidentally, "Anno O. alias Bertha Pappenheim, the
congresses within the last 22 years in several of these countries. Bulletins
feature articles about each host nation for at least a year before, with more
articles about them the year after. You'll find your old bulletins contain
info that will lead you to lace treasures.
Always confirm
Hi Alice,
I was in Finland about 8 years ago. Rauma is a beautiful medieval town (
https://www.visitfinland.com/article/beautiful-rauma/), and there is a
small lace museum. I happened to be there when they had an exhibition of
Austrian lace. The museum in small, but nice. And also sells some
Vadstena is northeast of Gothenburg and is a lovely medieval town in addition
to the center for the national Swedish bobbin lace organization, the Svenska
Spetstar. The shop of Else Peterson was on the same street at the east end. I
do not know if it is still there since Ms. Peterson died
I am planning to attend OIDFA next year in Estonia. I would like to travel for
a month ahead of the congress and am searching out lace sites in the countries
on my list. I plan to visit Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland and
Austria. However, I can't find any lace-related
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Many thanks to those who commented on the black blonde lace dress I posted
a couple of weeks ago. It was very helpful.
I now have another Spanish lace that I am working to identify.I feel that
the design is a very Spanish looking one. It doesn't have the large wild
flowers on it, but is instead
I think I joined in 1996 as I see Diane joined in 1995 and she introduced
Arachne to me.
I get the digest version of Lace and it has been very quiet and the last
digest was very short. I thought a digest was generated when it reached a
certain number of characters sent in by individual emails
Bev, I wouldnât call it quality control! Both lists are valuable as
filters. Having all these lace-making friends and not having friendly
chatter need to be banned because it clogged up the list ...which mattered
even more when we all had email limits, either on quantity or how much our
300-baud
identified, with the help of a Getty grant,
the 20,000 best fashion objects in their collection which included some
lace, and they are now held at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in the
Costume Institute in a special group. But apparently the Brooklyn Museum
still has other lace that hasn't come to us
wrote:
Have you tried at arizona university (book by Gertrude Whiting)? You
may get some useful information there,
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Hello Susan.
When I read your e-mail I was really surprised to know how much you know
about English point ground lace.
Have you tried at arizona university (book by Gertrude Whiting)? You may
get some useful information there, although it is a bit old and maybe most
of the info of the stitches
ally discovered more lace
types from (former East) Germany, Italy, Belgium & Slovenia. I truly did not
appreciate how widespread point ground is. So much lace, so little time! In the
meantime, can anyone help with a couple of questions? On page 38 there is a
chart but no corresponding “K”
oke and brought up and forward clock-wise to
> over the next spoke and back under, repeated for as many rounds as desired.
>
Hi Jeri, I am no expert when it comes to Russian Lace, but the fillings are
worked at the same time as the tape; for each section of filling the tape
is worked until the pin hol
enough.
But I haven't tried King Tut yet.
--
Joy Beeson
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
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should have added to Devon’s query/discussion about how
to learn to make lace. There is a certain value to taking lessons or being in
the presence of others who are more experienced. It’s easy to unintentionally
develop bad habits when working independently.
In the meantime, now that I realize
"Carrying on from the theme of beginning lace and time to practice, how much
time do members here spend on lacemaking"
I, too, would like to learn how much time the really productive lace makers
spend at their craft. Personally, I'm in my late 60's and still work 3 days
a week. That, p
That’s a good question Ann! Like you, I see people sharing so many incredibly
large projects they’ve completed and I wonder where they find the time!
Personally, all of the fruits of my labor in the six years since I began making
bobbin lace can essentially fit in a single envelope. To be fair
you are a needlewoman, do you do any
needlelace? We used Cordonnet when we made our samples of Venetian Gros Point
(which is a heavyweight lace, used in the past for cravats, etc) both for the
stitching and for padding out the raised cordonettes. If you do needlelace or
stumpwork you might be able
Hello All! Is there a way to add a bead at a windmill crossing? I am working
the Bedfordshire leaves in pattern #2 of Jean Leaders Lace Guild intro. There
are four pairs total. The leaves are connected as “squares on point” & the
effect is like a line of small forget me nots. The piece w
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