Dear Friends
I too am sad to hear of Jacqui's death. I never did get to meet her but she
taught me a lot over the last 20 or so years. I still have some of that very
fine silk she sent me.
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
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Me too Shirl!!
I believe next year, 2020, will be the 25th anniversary of Arachne on the
internet!!B Wow, that's a long time for group on the web. Wonder how many
'first timers' are still with us.B I joined in 1996.
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
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Dear Friends,
It's only a couple of weeks now till I'll be in New York singing at Carnegie
Hall, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to remind you of the Meet and
Greet which Stormy Lee has arranged for me.
It's on January 26th at Amy's Yarn Shop in Kelso, WA. I think it's going for
most
Sorry Susan. No-one asked me and I didn't know about it
:(
David in Ballarat, AUS
A friend just sent a note that this exhibit is on view in Ballarat until
Nov. 6 with 150 Australian artists showing work. Please tell me that lace is
represented at this event! Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
Sent
Dear Jeri
The Subject line of David's memo says "Book recommended". Searched, and only
found Kindle references to The Lace Weaver by Lauren Chater. Please forgive
my ignorance, but can it be purchased as a REAL book - by my definition?
Iâm sure itâs a paper back because Iâve seen the
Dear Friends
Last night I bought a book on kindle which has been highly recommended. It's
called "The Lace Weaver" by Lauren Chater.
It'll be a while till I get to it but I'm always a bit wary when the author
calls it weaving. I don't know any lace makers who do.
We'll see
David Downunder in
G'day Alex,
I think if you were making it all day, and also by candle light, you would
prefer to make lace using white thread and then dying it.
No doubt, but I'm lucky enough to have a fabulous LED light and terrific
magnifiers :)
David in Ballarat
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G'day Friends,
>
> Because black is so difficult to work with, much of the black lace was
> made using white thread and subsequently dyed black.
Well I certainly have never found black any more difficult to work with than
white so have trouble understanding this.
David Downunder in Ballarat,
Dear Friends,
I see there have been no replies yet about the whereabouts of Maeve.
Apart from making travel pillows she also made the most beautiful hand painted
porcelain bobbins. I have a pair of Australian Galahs by her but alas the
bobbin necks have broken.
Iâm fairly sure Maeve also
Dear Friends,
FINALLY I've wound some bobbins and begun some lace. It's been 2 years now
since I've made any bobbin lace.
I've chosen a simple Toender edging and later on will be having some maths
questions as I'm planning on gathering this straight edging around a corner.
Something which
Devon,
I suppose that as we enjoy the lavish handmade flounces of mid-century royal
lace, we should spare a thought for the English machine lace makers who were
collateral damage, forced to become farm hands in Australia.
My understanding is that there were 3 shiploads of lace makers from
G'day Nancy,
It would be interesting to do a survey of the bobbin-lacemaking members of
IOLI about area of education, highest degree obtained and when, career
field, types of bobbin lace specialized in, maybe things like primarily
self-taught or not, others?, and compare the stats from that to
Dear Friends,
Generally with laces, as with other fragile items, you donb
Here's another one with similar problems to those which Devon had. I'm
hoping you're seeing what I'm seeing - just the one sentence ending with a
"b"
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
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Dear Friends,
Now here's a date to put in your diary if you live somewhere near the west
coast of the USA.
On Saturday 26th January 2019, our dear friend Stormy Lee Van den Houten
would like to host a Meet and Greet for me. If more than a few would like to
visit we will hold it at Amy's Yarn
Me too Jay,
David in Ballarat
I am receiving messages from me like this as well. Any suggestions from our
more computer literate members about what is happening or how I could fix
it?
I only get part of Devon's messages. The last character received is nearly
always a 'b'.
Jay in Sydney
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Dear Miriam,
I think I joined Arachne in 1998, not sure any more. I have met a lot of
lace makers this way,visited them in their homes while travelling and made
many new friends.
I will always treasure the beautiful bookmark you made for me back around
2000. You even worked my name into it.\
I remember when I first discovered Arachne, exploring "lace" through an
internet searcher as Yahoo, it was back in 2000.
It was around that time I think. I wonder how many of us will never forget
Susan from Tennessee???
:)
David Downunder
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Dear Susan and other interested friends,
David, since you are the only person I have ever known to play Carnegie
Hall, please provide details! Some Arachneans may want tickets. Be sure to
put in some lace content so it's legal. LOL. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
I shall be taking lots of my
Dear Friends,
I joined Arachne in late 1995 and made lots of friends throughout the world.
B I even visited their homes in Canada, Denmark, New Zealand and the UK
This comment from Janice reminded me that I've often meant to tell you all
that now that I am retired, if ever anyone wants to mind
Dear Friends,
The problems here, however, are almost certainly with using an AOL email
account
It seems to me that the only person I have trouble receiving is Devon. I'm
using Outlook and usually only get the first 3 or 4 words of her emails. I
have to wait for someone to reply (and forget to
Dear Friends,
I just can't say how thrilled I am that next January after some 23 years I
shall finally be meeting a wonderful lace making friend for the first time.
Yes it's Stormy Lee!!!
I'm sure many of you will remember her too. Stormy and I have become great
friends over the years but have
G'day Karen,
I still have your most beautiful solid silver tatting shuttle which I'll
treasure for life. I reckon I got that in 1996 and believe it was the first
one you'd sold outside the USA.
Nice to know you're still here too.
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
(No ranting/ravving/crying over
4/12 is the Arachne anniversary. hope everyone is having a good lace day.
That's 23 years then. Wow! Some of us have even become a bit older O:)
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
Hugs, Lin and the Mali
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Dear Friends
Dyes have not been known for fastness until recently
I vividly recall that back in 1979 at an auction in Melbourne my friend bought
a beautiful bright scarlet velvet dress from the 1860s. We placed it gently in
the back of her car and by the time we got home to Belgrave (about 90
Dear Jane and other Friends,
Grandma retired. By now, Mum had a family and spent 4 years abroad. We were in
Tasmania and I remember Mum being interviewed on TV (ABC?) about her lacemaking
and I thought she did some teaching (I must check this!).
I've sometimes wondered what happened to
Dear Friends,
> I wonder how many of us have copies of the classic DMC *Encyclopedia
> of Needle work*? and who has the oldest?
Mine is 1928
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
I also have 2 copies. One is marked 412, April of 1912. The other is
older. The beginning is laid out the same except
Dear Jeri and other Friends,
She has often wondered why no one has written something comprehensive on S
vs. Z
I've never really bothered checking my threads as it hasn't been a problem
for me. However, I always remember back around 1995 or 96 when I showed my
very large antique table cloth to
Dear Susan.
To easily thread most needles, lay a length of thread over the shaft of the
needle & pull sharply, grasping both thread ends firmly between thumb &
forefinger. Slide the crisply folded thread off the shaft & lay the eye of the
needle over the fold you are pinching. If the thread
G'day Joseph,
I have two main pillows which I love working on. One is an ordinary cookie
pillow - a large one about 60cm diameter - which I was told was the last one
made here in Victoria, AUS stuffed with horse hair.
The other one for larger pieces I had specially made by an old friend now
Dear Friends,
Here is South Africa I am enjoying watching the TV serial on the life of
Queen Victoria. Probably a couple of years after you have seen it in the
UK!
There are some lovely lace collars and berthas on the costumes
I recently watched the 4 series of the Spanish Drama "Gran Hotel"
See ya mate,
David Downunder in Ballarat, AUS
Thank you is inadequate, but I sincerely thank so many of you who have made
my lace making journey such an wonderful and educational adventure. I have
learned so much from you.
Jenny Brandis
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I saw the collection back in 2002, and remember that there's a fair amount
of lace, but exactly what, I don't remember at this point. I'm pretty sure
I took pictures back then. Usually they don't mind if you don't use flash.
Alas not these days Lynn. Thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Dear Friends,
Does anyone know anything about the lace collection at Sudeley Castle in
Gloucestershire? My sister saw it today but was not allowed to take any
photos!!
Thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Dear Jean,
Hmmm... I feel a design project coming on :)
David in Ballarat, AUS
I have added a new page to my website about a black Chantilly lace tie which
you may have seen elsewhere until earlier this year. You can see it at
https://www.jeanleader.net/collection/blacktie.html
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Dear friends,
I've just come across the email I sent to Arachne on the night of the
opening of our Exhibition back on 15th January 1998 at 0130hrs. It brings
back lots of memories and I'm sure you'll enjoy reading it (again) after
some 19 years. Just noticed that back then I even signed emails
Dear Janis,
I so enjoyed reading that speech. The Hon. Richard Mcgarvie sounds like a
very human person with a great sense of humour as well as appreciation of
the lace exhibition.
Cousin Dick (as we called him) was a hoot. Sadly he died in 2003 from Motor
Neurone Disease.
I wish I had
Dear Friends,
Today I was looking through some old files on Arachne and was reminded of
the Exhibition I organised back in 1998. It was held here in Montrose
Cottage, Ballarat, Victoria, Australia and I'm sure was the first such
exhibition organised solely through the internet. I thought you
Many thanks for that Vickie. I'll printed the 31 pages and think I'll work
it on silk base at 40 sts per inch using single ply DMC threads. Goodness
only knows when though :)
David in Ballarat
For those of you who also enjoy counted cross stitch, there is a free chart
called "A Lacemaker," which
Dear Friends,
In April I shall be doing a 12 day tour of China performing with Melbourne's
Heidelberg Choral Society. Only 4 of those nights are performances do
there's a fair bit of free time. I was just wondering whether anyone knew
any special lace venues in Shanghai; Beijing; or Xi-An?
After
G'day Jenny,
wanted to use torchon ground with gimp writing words like Love, Hope, Joy.
My problem is that I am not sure how or even if gimp can do cursive writing
- can you direct me to a book, website or person who may have the alphabet
and or words already sorted out?
I could do it but
OK Brian here I am.
I acquired only 2 old Tasmanian bobbins back around 1980 when I
bought 2 Princess Pillows (one had work on it).
One of those bobbins has since broken but the other is OK. However, I
know that these pillows date from 1903 so I doubt they belonged to convicts.
David
Dear Friends,
Over the years I have found the best dividing pins to be ordinary
sewing needles with a middle sized bead glued on the top.
I recently broke my second last one and tried making new ones but
when I used the acid free craft glue it didn't hold. Could someone
please tell me what
Dear Friends,
Actually it was far easier than any of you have suggested. When I
opened Chrome it TOLD me it wasn't my default browser and asked if I
wanted it to be.
I simply had to choose it from a list produced.
many thanks for all your replies.
David in Ballarat, AUS
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At 04:24 AM 6/24/2016, Carolina de la Guardia wrote:
If you have any problem to watch the video on my web, there is also a You
Tube version at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8q2rME9NSQ=share
Apart from all the lovely lace, I just loved the ay the normals were
so natural and normal looking
Linda,
When working point ground the "Ulrike" way, we are advised to use fat
pins for honeycomb and picots and thin pins for the rest. Different heads
would be nice, so I would know which is which during the work, and
especially while sorting the pins afterwards.
While I don't follow all
Dear Vivienne.
David has told me he is still around, I am delighted. I could do
with a bit of cheer. David do you remember years ago you bought one
of our remembrance bobbins? Ebony with a crucifix carved in it. I
think it might have been for Princess Diana but not sure.
Yes, I bought a pair
Brian,
I do not have a picture of an Antique divider pin. can anyone help please?
Long, specially decorated. You know best
I think I once sent you a pic of my antique Striver Pins. Are they
the same thing. Or do you need a new one?
I might even know where they are :)
David in Ballarat
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Dear Chris,
Many thanks for letting us all know about Linda's death.
I'm sure you are being held close all around the world.
David in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
This is to let you all know that Linda Walton, a member of this
group and my wife passed away on the 23rd March. The breast cancer
Dear Friends.
> Salt sets dyes too, but I prefer to use vinegar.
The rule of thumb I was taught as a child was that vinegar was for
animal fibers (silk and wool), while salt was for plant ones (cotton and linen)
While it's been many years since I did any dying, when I did (and it
was always
G'day Jenny
If I type in "Jenny Brandis" arachne to Google.com.au I get 1,500 results
So you can see, choosing your words carefully can impact your results.
Adding the inverted commas in front and behind my name forces the search to
only give results that have the 2 words in a phrase.
This
Dear Friends,
I meant to tell you all about this a while back and have finally remembered.
In October when I flew back to Australia from Vietnam on Virgin
Airlines I finally managed to smuggle my knitting on board the plane
and between Singapore and Melbourne was able to knit half a sock! Oh
Alex,
Blow the dust, let's make lace
I heard on the Antique Road Show this week that dust is merely face
powder for old furniture!!
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Alice,
In the USA, it's Back To School time in the stores. I found transparent film
book covers in my local dollar store. They come in various colors, some
quite bright, and some of them are light enough to use over patterns.
I've been using this stuff for 20 years now. It
seems to be
Dear Friends wherever you are,
This is just a cheery note to brighten up the chatter.
Nearly 20 years ago now I was involved with my first exchange on
Arachne (late 1995) and was terrified as I'd only been making bobbin
lace for a couple of months. However, I took the bull by the horns
and
Dear Friends,
Recently my older sister returned from a trip to the UK and gave me a
delightful little book on lace which I haven't heard mentioned before.
It's called The Little Lace Book of Flowers by Jean and Mary.
That's all you get - no other publishing information. It's only 13 pp
long
Dear Friends,
For those of you who are interested, my sister bought this Little
Lace Book of Flowers at
Much Ado Books,
8 West St.,
Alfriston,
East Sussex, UK, BN26 5UX
www.muchadobooks.com
It's called The Little Lace Book of Flowers by Jean and Mary.
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Dear Friends,
this is just a handy tip (or reminder because sometimes I forget to do it).
When you cover your prickings with coloured plastic film (or Contact)
don't forget that if you use a brand new kitchen scouring pad on it
for about 20 seconds, it will become matt. This makes such a
At 03:49 PM 24/04/2015, Tregellas Family wrote:
Dear Liz,
Think I might miss the dawn service as I've never been very good at
dawn times :) and it promises to be rather cold here in Ballarat.
I will, however, be marching at 1030hrs. Will have to polish up the
medals shortly.
David in
At 03:49 PM 24/04/2015, Tregellas Family wrote:
Dear Liz,
Think I might miss the dawn service as I've never been very good at
dawn times :) and it promises to be rather cold here in Ballarat.
I will, however, be marching at 1030hrs. Will have to polish up the
medals shortly.
David in
Noelene,
Does anyone know what date is our 20th anniversary?
I think Tamara night know. I reckon it was around May and I joined in Nov 1995.
Might I suggest Chris Parsons in the UK be approached to do a commemorative
While he's great I reckon Stuart JOHNSON is better.
Here's his website:-
Dear Friends,
I have an embarrassing question. Last year one of you very kindly
sent me some beautiful cream coloured wool to knit up. The cardigan
is now finished and I promised to send pictures. Only trouble is I
can't remember who sent it to me.
Please own up so I can send the pics.
thanks
At 08:15 PM 27/10/2014, Achim Siebert wrote:
Yes. You're missing the fact that there's one or sometimes 2
gimps between the areas of half stitch - but that's all.
Accoring to Ulrike Voelcker, this should be done with 2 twists
before the gimp and 1 twist behind to give the best looks. The
Adele,
I would have to see a picture of the two techniques to understand
exactly what you're talking about. It seems to me that if you have,
say, a half-stitch diamond next to another half-stitch diamond and
you don't put on at least 1 extra twist, the two half-stitch areas
would just become
Clay,
However, I have found that in Binche, when I have long stretches of
half-stitch, punctuated by gimps, the more pressing need is to be
certain that the same bobbin is leading through all of this, so that
giant holes don't appear when tensioning downstream, so to
speak. In cases like
Dear Friends,
I have a question which I think will prove difficult to put into words.
If you are working 2 half stitch motifs side by side, or perhaps
passing a pair of bobbins backwards and forwards over the vein in a
leaf, do you give that pair a twist or not before including it in the
Dear friends,
A friend of mine has been intrigued by how the old lacemakers lamps
actually worked - you know the candle behind the glass sphere filled
with distilled water. He put this problem to a scientists friend who
replied with this formula. It's way beyond what I can remember of
maths. I
Oh don't tempt me Vicki. I feel a chandelier coming on
:)
David in Ballarat, AUS
Heres an amazing artwork that isnt lace (though it could be
replicated in lace?). It is from an exhibition in Michigan and this
was the winning entry in a competition.
Dear Friends,
Last night I reluctantly finished reading The Royal Lacemaker. What a
lovely read: such an unusual topic and also a page turner. It
certainly informs you about the lifestyles of the poor women who made
lace in Devon in the 1830s.
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Dear Friends,
'The Royal Lacemaker is an overseas book not available here. As soon as
it's out, we could do an overseas order, but it will be close to thirty US
dollars for a paperback.
I have just bought this book on my Kindle for AUD$6.32
Should be able to start it in a few days.
Dave
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G'day Friends,
Sue, I was also about to say try threading the needle from the other end of
the thread.
Liz, I'd forgotten that trick because I never do it myself. However,
I do distinctly recall learning it back in '75 when a tapestry
teacher was looking at my work. She stressed how
At 07:01 AM 30/08/2014, Clay Blackwell wrote:
Sue,
I always give one twist with each stitch and that should stop it
either knotting or unravelling. The trick is to figure out which way
to twist and then to be consistent.
David in Ballarat, AUS
I am sewing two pieces of lace together
Carol,
Here in Australia it cost me about $500 about 4 years ago and we can
choose what we want but no more than 6 characters; providing it
hasn't been taken and also that it's not suggestive.
For tears I'd been hoping theyd extent it to 7 characters so I could
have LACEMAN, but alas no. So
At 07:57 PM 4/08/2014, Brian Lemin wrote:
Can anyone help me with a picture of the above please.
Brian I was hoping I could. I've had an antler from an Indonesian
Deer here for about 10 years waiting for someone to turn it.
A few months back I gave it to my brother-in-law who was over from
Dear Friends,
some of you may find this interesting.
If an Ad appears first, just close it.
David in Ballarat, AUS
http://www.macleans.ca/culture/arts/deadly-victorian-fashions/
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Thank you Janice and thank you David for showing the way and thank
you Elizabeth for publishing.
No worries Anna
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Bev, you could add:-
I can knit lace in a variety of styles, but mainly Shetland.
David in Ballarat, AUS
Have to play with this:
Maker of knitted lace.
Knitter of knitted lace?
I make knitted lace.
I am one who makes knitted lace.
I knit lace?
I do lace knitting.
There is a difference
Dear Friends,
Sorry to write to both lists but I wanted to make sure I caught everyone.
I would dearly love to find a Marriage Certificate or Registration
for one of my forebears.
Thomas OWEN m. April 1852 in New York to Catherine BOYD.
If anyone has access to the American records on
Clay,
I have been asked to make a wedding dress for my niece, and started
looking on the Internet to see what fabrics might be
available. Imagine my surprise when I discovered Handmade bobbin
lace from the city of Chantilly France! Judging from the pictures,
some of it is awful, some not
Clay,
I fall into the process group as well. I can't think when I've
worn my lace, and I can count on one hand the pieces I've made as
gifts. Like Robin, I love the process and the challenge. But
beyond that, I am also rather obsessive, and I can't bear *not* to
finish something - that
Janice,
I've now assembled the 2 poppies I made and thought I'd tell folks what I did.
Having drawn the black stamens on each of the 4 petals, I selected
the 4 longest threads on each and made a Beds plait for about 4cm.
Then I stitched the 4 petals together up the lower half of each side,
Dear Friends,
Herebelow is the link to my little sister Christine Gascoyne telling
our grandfather's story when he was at Gallipoli. She does a
wonderful job. This was recorded for ABC radio last year and will be
played in many schools this year.
Dear Janice and other Friends,
April 25th is ANZAC Day here in Australia and so I've spent today
making one of your red Remembrance Day Poppies. It's really come out
well, so tomorrow I shall make another for my best mate Des which we
can then wear as we march in Adelaide, South Australia
Shirl,
can you please email me here for I can fill you in on ANZAC Day movements etc.
thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Dear Friends,
you might find this interesting as I did.
http://www.stpauls.co.uk/News-Press/Latest-News/Art-from-war-descendants-of-WWI-soldiers-sought-for-St-Pauls-commemoration
David in Ballarat, AUS
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Sherry,
I am curious as to what people have made out there in Lacingland that you
would call the ultimate piece of lace you have ever made or felt good about
when finished.
Mine would have to be the large edging in Toender which I made a few
years ago. The pricking was very skew-whiff and
Dear all,
I can tell you it's NOT Anna because I bought it from them a couple
of weeks back and they later told me it was unavailbale and that
nothing would be deducted from my Master Card, which it wasn't
David in Ballarat, AUS
I've just checked
the book is available at the Book Depository
Dear Friends,
publication details of In the Cause of English Lace
(which, of course, they already have) in the hope they can find it. I added
that there are some lacemakers who would sell their grandmothers to get their
hands on a legal copy!
I bought this book from Crowood about 2 weeks ago
Dear Sue,
A friend's granddaughter is getting married in September, and
thinking of wearing the Brussels Lace veil, which has been worn by
50 or so brides in the family. So it has been brought out for
inspection, and a jagged edge tear discovered in it.
I was sent photos today to see what I
Jeri,
In reading all the Channer correspondence, I wondered why no one remembered
we were able to see David's mat while it was in
progress. David? Do you know where the pictures at various
stages of making are
- at the present time?
Well they're certainly still here on my computer, but
Clay,
I wanted to reply to you privately but comcast hates my PC and will
only allow my iPad :)
I personally don't do Flickr at all and reckon it would all be far
simpler just to set up a closed group on Facebook where most of us
are already anyway. I am in half a dozen of so fo these groups
Marianne,
However, I can still do Bucks, and my goal is to eventually tackle Miss
Channer's mat. However, I can't seem to find a source for the pattern. Can
anyone tell me where I could obtain it?
There is only a pricking, no working diagram, and I have a feeling
that it's out of print right
Clay,
Having said that, there is no reason you couldn't set up a group as
you suggest, and see if it works! The Flickr account is still there
for those who like it.
I don't need to as there's already a number of Lace groups on
Facebook where I've been putting my pictures. The one I
At 03:16 PM 31/12/2013, Jenny Brandis wrote:
Are these actually lace bobbins? What would you use them for?
http://www.rubylane.com/item/370063-004620/9-Antique-Chinese-Hand-Carved
They look more like mini recorders, flutes or pan pipes to me
David in Ballarat, where it's now 2014!!
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Jane
I'm wondering if, as each would make a different sound and there are
eight notes in an octave, these are actually from a wind chime?
Me too, but then I remembered that the Chinese use the Pentatonic
scale which requires only 5 holes :(
David in Ballarat, AUS
0103 hrs on Jan 1st 2014
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Dear Bev,
thanks for that. I did a hunt and couldn't find a pic. But that's it all right.
David in Ballarat, AUS
The model you have is I think the one on this catalogue page:
http://www.discountstoresau.com/aldi-catalogue/aldi-christmas-2013-products-online-catalogue-14.html
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Dear Friends,
today when I was in Aldi I spied an interesting little lamp and at
$17 thought it worth giving a try.
It's called the BBQ Light by Coolabah so is probably only available
in Australia. The globe itself contains 12 small LEDs and they are
mounted on a long aluminium swivel neck.
Dear Friends,
It is not always necessary to use blue film on a pricking. I photocopy onto
blue card and do not cover it with film. I find the film too shiney when
making lace.
I have always bought the cheap shiney blue film from the newsagents
or the Reject Shop for about AUD $1 a roll. These
Sue,
I think this might be a pricking I need, as I don't have one yet.
Tell how Janice.
thanks
David in Ballarat, AUS
The other day I pinned my lace poppy to my coat in advance of remembrance
sunday and has already been admired by a couple of ladies working in our local
shops.
Just thought I
Dear Lorelei,
I'm sorry to say this, but the clothwork parts in David's piece look a little
suspicious. The passives make vertical ridges. That happens in machine made
laces, not handmade cloth stitch. And the picots on the edge are rather
peculiar, too. Far too long. But I'm not certain.
Dear Lyn,
On numerous occasions I've tried to reply to your emails privately
but your server won't let me.
Tonight I tried to send you some pictures of the Poppies. Alas they
were returned. Can't you possibly change this set up?
David in Ballarat, AUS
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