Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Philip via Leedslist]

 There is no plus side at all. Damn badnot just no good enough. 2 more 
games to go - Lampart will be laughing his socks off !! 
On Sunday, May 5, 2019, 4:43:22 PM GMT+3, Joe Skinner 
 wrote:  
 
 On the plus side, we at least gave it a bit of a go second half for about 25 
mins

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> On 5 May 2019, at 14:32, Richard Walker  wrote:
> 
> That was bloody awful. Kemar Roofe’s performance was shocking and it was no 
> surprise when he skied the pen. What the hell was that run up all about. I 
> fear for us going into the playoffs now. Getting beat twice by 10 men.
> 
> Just about everyone is putting in below par performances.
> 
> The keeper is a fucking joke at the moment, all over the shop.
> 
> Dallas isn’t a left back and if we think we can get away with him in that 
> position then we’re stupid.
> 
> Hernandez’s passing today was atrocious. Time and time again he flicked balls 
> on to a blue shirt. He hasn’t done this as much this season but that was back 
> to his worst. He was crap today.
> 
> Jack Harrison didn’t have the beating of anyone and struggled all match.
> 
> It was a shocking defeat by a really shit team and I can’t see us doing 
> anything in the play offs. 
> 
> Pissed off.
> 
> 
>> On 5 May 2019, at 13:40, Joe Skinner  wrote:
>> 
>> The final ball - apart from the goal - is abysmal 
>> 
>> Really fear for the playoffs, limping into them  off form 
>> 
>> We’re making Ipswich look half decent
>> 
>> They just ran through us for the 2nd after klich lost it
>> 
>> Pedestrian and a bit aimless 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2019, at 13:25, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apart from our goal which was the best move of the game, it’s been a horror 
>>> show from us. I’ve lost count of the number of misplaced final balls and 
>>> with Roofe looking completely out of his depth up front we’ve hardly 
>>> troubled them.
>>> I’m just hoping Roofe will get a decent chance and stick it away to get 
>>> some confidence going into the play offs because he’s way off his early 
>>> season performances.
>>> I also think going into the play offs with Dallas at left back will cost us 
>>> and we look incredibly pedestrian with Forshaw and Philips in midfield.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully we’ll see Clarke second half and maybe Edmonson may get his 
>>> chance ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Joe Skinner]

On the plus side, we at least gave it a bit of a go second half for about 25 
mins

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 May 2019, at 14:32, Richard Walker  wrote:
> 
> That was bloody awful. Kemar Roofe’s performance was shocking and it was no 
> surprise when he skied the pen. What the hell was that run up all about. I 
> fear for us going into the playoffs now. Getting beat twice by 10 men.
> 
> Just about everyone is putting in below par performances.
> 
> The keeper is a fucking joke at the moment, all over the shop.
> 
> Dallas isn’t a left back and if we think we can get away with him in that 
> position then we’re stupid.
> 
> Hernandez’s passing today was atrocious. Time and time again he flicked balls 
> on to a blue shirt. He hasn’t done this as much this season but that was back 
> to his worst. He was crap today.
> 
> Jack Harrison didn’t have the beating of anyone and struggled all match.
> 
> It was a shocking defeat by a really shit team and I can’t see us doing 
> anything in the play offs. 
> 
> Pissed off.
> 
> 
>> On 5 May 2019, at 13:40, Joe Skinner  wrote:
>> 
>> The final ball - apart from the goal - is abysmal 
>> 
>> Really fear for the playoffs, limping into them  off form 
>> 
>> We’re making Ipswich look half decent
>> 
>> They just ran through us for the 2nd after klich lost it
>> 
>> Pedestrian and a bit aimless 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 5 May 2019, at 13:25, Richard Walker via Leedslist 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apart from our goal which was the best move of the game, it’s been a horror 
>>> show from us. I’ve lost count of the number of misplaced final balls and 
>>> with Roofe looking completely out of his depth up front we’ve hardly 
>>> troubled them.
>>> I’m just hoping Roofe will get a decent chance and stick it away to get 
>>> some confidence going into the play offs because he’s way off his early 
>>> season performances.
>>> I also think going into the play offs with Dallas at left back will cost us 
>>> and we look incredibly pedestrian with Forshaw and Philips in midfield.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully we’ll see Clarke second half and maybe Edmonson may get his 
>>> chance ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

That was bloody awful. Kemar Roofe’s performance was shocking and it was no 
surprise when he skied the pen. What the hell was that run up all about. I fear 
for us going into the playoffs now. Getting beat twice by 10 men.

Just about everyone is putting in below par performances.

The keeper is a fucking joke at the moment, all over the shop.

Dallas isn’t a left back and if we think we can get away with him in that 
position then we’re stupid.

Hernandez’s passing today was atrocious. Time and time again he flicked balls 
on to a blue shirt. He hasn’t done this as much this season but that was back 
to his worst. He was crap today.

Jack Harrison didn’t have the beating of anyone and struggled all match.

It was a shocking defeat by a really shit team and I can’t see us doing 
anything in the play offs. 

Pissed off.


> On 5 May 2019, at 13:40, Joe Skinner  wrote:
> 
> The final ball - apart from the goal - is abysmal 
> 
> Really fear for the playoffs, limping into them  off form 
> 
> We’re making Ipswich look half decent
> 
> They just ran through us for the 2nd after klich lost it
> 
> Pedestrian and a bit aimless 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 5 May 2019, at 13:25, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apart from our goal which was the best move of the game, it’s been a horror 
>> show from us. I’ve lost count of the number of misplaced final balls and 
>> with Roofe looking completely out of his depth up front we’ve hardly 
>> troubled them.
>> I’m just hoping Roofe will get a decent chance and stick it away to get some 
>> confidence going into the play offs because he’s way off his early season 
>> performances.
>> I also think going into the play offs with Dallas at left back will cost us 
>> and we look incredibly pedestrian with Forshaw and Philips in midfield.
>> 
>> Hopefully we’ll see Clarke second half and maybe Edmonson may get his chance 
>> ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Joe Skinner]

The final ball - apart from the goal - is abysmal 

Really fear for the playoffs, limping into them  off form 

We’re making Ipswich look half decent

They just ran through us for the 2nd after klich lost it

Pedestrian and a bit aimless 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 5 May 2019, at 13:25, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Apart from our goal which was the best move of the game, it’s been a horror 
> show from us. I’ve lost count of the number of misplaced final balls and with 
> Roofe looking completely out of his depth up front we’ve hardly troubled them.
> I’m just hoping Roofe will get a decent chance and stick it away to get some 
> confidence going into the play offs because he’s way off his early season 
> performances.
> I also think going into the play offs with Dallas at left back will cost us 
> and we look incredibly pedestrian with Forshaw and Philips in midfield.
> 
> Hopefully we’ll see Clarke second half and maybe Edmonson may get his chance ?
> 
> 
> 
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[LU] Ipswich

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Apart from our goal which was the best move of the game, it’s been a horror 
show from us. I’ve lost count of the number of misplaced final balls and with 
Roofe looking completely out of his depth up front we’ve hardly troubled them.
I’m just hoping Roofe will get a decent chance and stick it away to get some 
confidence going into the play offs because he’s way off his early season 
performances.
I also think going into the play offs with Dallas at left back will cost us and 
we look incredibly pedestrian with Forshaw and Philips in midfield.

Hopefully we’ll see Clarke second half and maybe Edmonson may get his chance ?



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[LU] Ipswich

[Richard Naef]

Rumours of a monster ticket allocation on the 5th.  MOAPLM?

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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[John Lee via Leedslist]

I watched on tv, and I know being at the game is always more telling, 
particularly if you’ve had a few beers, but there were parts of the game early 
on which which were pretty poor. The constant giving the ball away, and the 
misplaced long balls - I get the trying to stretch the game, and how this 
sometimes works - drives me mad. I am trying very hard not to be critical, 
because the season so far has been a revelation, and maybe the speed we play at 
induces panic in other teams as well as meaning misplaced passes by us. We 
could, and should, have won by more and Forshaw’s performance was one of his 
best for us. Putting 2 or 3 wins together would be nice now though. For the 
first season in years we have a serious chance of going up!

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> On 25 Oct 2018, at 18:03, Richard Walker via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed, I didn’t go last night but managed to watch on LUTV and I thought it 
> was another poor performance from Ayling. His passing seems to have deserted 
> him completely.
> 
> I thought we were poor first half but second half mainly due to Hernandez we 
> took them apart and should have won by more.
> 
> I thought Dallas probably had his best game for Leeds (the bar is low) by 
> showing that he has got something to offer even if it was against very poor 
> opposition.
> 
> I like Forshaw and as somebody said he plays like Batty - always available, 
> gets everywhere and always efficient with his passing. A few months ago I 
> wouldn’t have dreamt of droppping Siaz but he’s not delivering and looks to 
> have lost all confidence in front of goal.
> 
> I was impressed by Roofe first half but he faded badly and didn’t contribute 
> anything second half.
> 
> Lots of praise for Philips but I thought he had the easiest job on the park 
> mopping up at the back, no pressure and playing simple balls out from the 
> back. Can he play that role against a better team with pace - I doubt it.
> 
> Forest big game. I’ve always rated Joe Lolley and he will take Ayling to the 
> cleaners.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2018, at 16:07, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Not to be negative but I thought Ayling was poor. I think to play Bielsaball 
>> you need to be a thinking footballer and Ayling ain't one. He is best when 
>> he plays quick and direct. As soon as he stops and has to think he makes 
>> mistakes.
>> Nick
>> 
>> 
>>   On Thursday, October 25, 2018, 5:46:08 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> "United are back, United are back"
>> Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to 
>> re-think things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the 
>> peak 'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low 
>> on confidence
>> Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
>> quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) 
>> Secondly the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and 
>> almost the oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
>> However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous 
>> performance, all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo 
>> Hernandez, who was sublime and went through their back line like the 
>> proverbial knife through butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays 
>> like this you wonder what he is doing in this Division. How we have missed 
>> him especially at home when faced with a team who pack the defence and come 
>> for a draw.
>> The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a 
>> centre forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets 
>> results, this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders 
>> and met a brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v 
>> Derby (?) He buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
>> Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. 
>> Dallas showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one 
>> attempt just wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two 
>> defenders. Pearce showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of 
>> us he must have wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when 
>> Douglas got injured. Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into 
>> it and also went close with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly 
>> subdued Saiz and kept the ball moving with little Batty-esque type passing 
>> and interceptions. 
>> 
>> We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the 
>> total with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - 
>> he was another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in 
>> the first half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back 
>> into the danger zone.
>> The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led 
>> to total 

Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

Agreed, I didn’t go last night but managed to watch on LUTV and I thought it 
was another poor performance from Ayling. His passing seems to have deserted 
him completely.

I thought we were poor first half but second half mainly due to Hernandez we 
took them apart and should have won by more.

I thought Dallas probably had his best game for Leeds (the bar is low) by 
showing that he has got something to offer even if it was against very poor 
opposition.

I like Forshaw and as somebody said he plays like Batty - always available, 
gets everywhere and always efficient with his passing. A few months ago I 
wouldn’t have dreamt of droppping Siaz but he’s not delivering and looks to 
have lost all confidence in front of goal.

I was impressed by Roofe first half but he faded badly and didn’t contribute 
anything second half.

Lots of praise for Philips but I thought he had the easiest job on the park 
mopping up at the back, no pressure and playing simple balls out from the back. 
Can he play that role against a better team with pace - I doubt it.

Forest big game. I’ve always rated Joe Lolley and he will take Ayling to the 
cleaners.



> On 25 Oct 2018, at 16:07, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist  
> wrote:
> 
> Not to be negative but I thought Ayling was poor. I think to play Bielsaball 
> you need to be a thinking footballer and Ayling ain't one. He is best when he 
> plays quick and direct. As soon as he stops and has to think he makes 
> mistakes.
> Nick
> 
> 
>On Thursday, October 25, 2018, 5:46:08 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com 
>  wrote:  
> 
> "United are back, United are back"
> Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
> things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
> 'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
> confidence
> Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
> quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) 
> Secondly the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and 
> almost the oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
> However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous 
> performance, all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo 
> Hernandez, who was sublime and went through their back line like the 
> proverbial knife through butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like 
> this you wonder what he is doing in this Division. How we have missed him 
> especially at home when faced with a team who pack the defence and come for a 
> draw.
> The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
> forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
> this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
> brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
> buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
> Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. 
> Dallas showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one 
> attempt just wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two 
> defenders. Pearce showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of 
> us he must have wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when 
> Douglas got injured. Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it 
> and also went close with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued 
> Saiz and kept the ball moving with little Batty-esque type passing and 
> interceptions. 
> 
> We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
> with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
> another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the 
> first half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into 
> the danger zone.
> The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led 
> to total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a 
> short corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by 
> Phillips(?) and fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the 
> edge of the box - yes League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real 
> skill and aplomb. That ended the game as a contest (if it ever was, since all 
>  they managed was one easily saved header in the first half and were almost 
> gifted a goal by Ayling right at the death) and it became almost a procession 
> of us coming forward and having pot shots and scrambles - their keeper was 
> their man of the match (and beaten only by Pablo for THE MoM)
> It was a perfect response to the Blackburn defeat - a bit worrying that 
> Berardi went off , presumably injured but with Bielsa, who knows it could 
> have been tactical. Bielsa again used his subs wisely and excitingly making a 
> double sub with over 30mins to go 

Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Simon McNally]

Pablo showed just how much we miss him when he’s not there. He would be the 
first name on the team sheet for me.
Thought Phillips was superb. I still think that no one else in the squad is 
capable of hitting the 50 yard plus cross field balls that he does.
I also thought that Forshaw looked good when he came on for Saiz , with Klich 
moving further forward. We looked more solid and it’s definitely an option when 
Saiz is having an off day.

S

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> On 25 Oct 2018, at 10:45, "nat...@sky.com"  wrote:
> 
> "United are back, United are back"
> Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
> things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
> 'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
> confidence
> Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
> quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) 
> Secondly the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and 
> almost the oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
> However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous 
> performance, all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo 
> Hernandez, who was sublime and went through their back line like the 
> proverbial knife through butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like 
> this you wonder what he is doing in this Division. How we have missed him 
> especially at home when faced with a team who pack the defence and come for a 
> draw.
> The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
> forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
> this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
> brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
> buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
> Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. 
> Dallas showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one 
> attempt just wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two 
> defenders. Pearce showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of 
> us he must have wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when 
> Douglas got injured. Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it 
> and also went close with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued 
> Saiz and kept the ball moving with little Batty-esque type passing and 
> interceptions. 
> 
> We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
> with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
> another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the 
> first half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into 
> the danger zone.
> The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led 
> to total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a 
> short corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by 
> Phillips(?) and fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the 
> edge of the box - yes League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real 
> skill and aplomb. That ended the game as a contest (if it ever was, since all 
>  they managed was one easily saved header in the first half and were almost 
> gifted a goal by Ayling right at the death) and it became almost a procession 
> of us coming forward and having pot shots and scrambles - their keeper was 
> their man of the match (and beaten only by Pablo for THE MoM)
> It was a perfect response to the Blackburn defeat - a bit worrying that 
> Berardi went off , presumably injured but with Bielsa, who knows it could 
> have been tactical. Bielsa again used his subs wisely and excitingly making a 
> double sub with over 30mins to go and no more cards to play. I love the way 
> he re-acts to what is happening on the pitch - some managers seem to pre-plan 
> the sub one striker for another on 60 mins every game or making no subs at 
> all until time wasting at the end of a game.
> With other results going our way this week - Boro being held at home by 
> Rotherham and West Brom getting hammered at home by Derby means 'we are 
> top'the league, say we are top'the league' - these results confirming what we 
> already knew , this League is totally competitive and any result is possible 
> in any match. This also elevates our performance and result last night - Man 
> City v Cardiff or whoever is top and bottom of the Prem is pretty much a 
> nailed on home win, that is not the case in the Championship (look at 
> Birmingham turning us over when we were top and they were bottom or next to 
> bottom) so beating Ipswich whilst expected was in no way a foregone 
> conclusion and we needed to be at or near our best to do it, and that is what 
> we were, back to 

Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Nicholas Armit via Leedslist]

 Not to be negative but I thought Ayling was poor. I think to play Bielsaball 
you need to be a thinking footballer and Ayling ain't one. He is best when he 
plays quick and direct. As soon as he stops and has to think he makes mistakes.
Nick


On Thursday, October 25, 2018, 5:46:08 AM EDT, nat...@sky.com 
 wrote:  
 
 "United are back, United are back"
Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
confidence
Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) Secondly 
the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and almost the 
oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous performance, 
all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo Hernandez, who was 
sublime and went through their back line like the proverbial knife through 
butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like this you wonder what he is 
doing in this Division. How we have missed him especially at home when faced 
with a team who pack the defence and come for a draw.
The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. Dallas 
showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one attempt just 
wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two defenders. Pearce 
showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of us he must have 
wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when Douglas got injured. 
Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it and also went close 
with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued Saiz and kept the ball 
moving with little Batty-esque type passing and interceptions. 

We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the first 
half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into the 
danger zone.
The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led to 
total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a short 
corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by Phillips(?) and 
fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the edge of the box - yes 
League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real skill and aplomb. That 
ended the game as a contest (if it ever was, since all  they managed was one 
easily saved header in the first half and were almost gifted a goal by Ayling 
right at the death) and it became almost a procession of us coming forward and 
having pot shots and scrambles - their keeper was their man of the match (and 
beaten only by Pablo for THE MoM)
It was a perfect response to the Blackburn defeat - a bit worrying that Berardi 
went off , presumably injured but with Bielsa, who knows it could have been 
tactical. Bielsa again used his subs wisely and excitingly making a double sub 
with over 30mins to go and no more cards to play. I love the way he re-acts to 
what is happening on the pitch - some managers seem to pre-plan the sub one 
striker for another on 60 mins every game or making no subs at all until time 
wasting at the end of a game.
With other results going our way this week - Boro being held at home by 
Rotherham and West Brom getting hammered at home by Derby means 'we are top'the 
league, say we are top'the league' - these results confirming what we already 
knew , this League is totally competitive and any result is possible in any 
match. This also elevates our performance and result last night - Man City v 
Cardiff or whoever is top and bottom of the Prem is pretty much a nailed on 
home win, that is not the case in the Championship (look at Birmingham turning 
us over when we were top and they were bottom or next to bottom) so beating 
Ipswich whilst expected was in no way a foregone conclusion and we needed to be 
at or near our best to do it, and that is what we were, back to our best
So onwards and upwards - with Forest to come Saturday evening - we will know by 
kick off what we need to stay top but I am confident if we can play like we did 
last night that no-one in this Division will beat us , so it is all about 
whether we play to our full potential. If Pablo plays like he did yesterday and 
Roofe 

Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Naef]

>The real test will come this weekend though.  Cos there's no getting around 
>the fact that so far, 5 of our 7 wins are against teams who're >currently in 
>the bottom 8!

True, but our 2 of our 3 best performances were against Derby & Norwich, top 6, 
the other against Stoke, who have a very decent squad.


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4. Goal Roofe (John Boocock)
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A good read;

https://www.talesfrom.com/our-books/tales-from-elland-road


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Leeds1 Ipswich 0 Roofe 22 mins


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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 09:45:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: "nat...@sky.com" 
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Subject: [LU] Ipswich report
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"United are back, United are back"
Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
confidence
Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) Secondly 
the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and almost the 
oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous performance, 
all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo Hernandez, who was 
sublime and went through their back line like the proverbial knife through 
butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like this you wonder what he is 
doing in this Division. How we have missed him especially at home when faced 
with a team who pack the defence and come for a draw.
The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. Dallas showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one attempt just wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two defenders. Pearce showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of us he must have wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when Douglas got injured. Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it and also went close with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued Saiz and kept the ball moving with little Batty-esque type passing and interceptions. 


We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the first 
half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into the 
danger zone.
The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led to 
total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a short 
corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by Phillips(?) and 
fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the edge of the box - yes 
League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real skil

Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Nigel Sykes]

It was certainly good to see us not look clueless again. Amazing how two 
players whom I didn't rate much last season could turn out to be so influential 
for us this one.

The real test will come this weekend though.  Cos there's no getting around the 
fact that so far, 5 of our 7 wins are against teams who're currently in the 
bottom 8!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
nat...@sky.com
Sent: 25 October 2018 10:46
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Ipswich report

"United are back, United are back"
Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
confidence
Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) Secondly 
the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and almost the 
oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous performance, 
all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo Hernandez, who was 
sublime and went through their back line like the proverbial knife through 
butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like this you wonder what he is 
doing in this Division. How we have missed him especially at home when faced 
with a team who pack the defence and come for a draw.
The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. Dallas 
showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one attempt just 
wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two defenders. Pearce 
showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of us he must have 
wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when Douglas got injured. 
Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it and also went close 
with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued Saiz and kept the ball 
moving with little Batty-esque type passing and interceptions. 

We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the first 
half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into the 
danger zone.
The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led to 
total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a short 
corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by Phillips(?) and 
fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the edge of the box - yes 
League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real skill and aplomb. That 
ended the game as a contest (if it ever was, since all  they managed was one 
easily saved header in the first half and were almost gifted a goal by Ayling 
right at the death) and it became almost a procession of us coming forward and 
having pot shots and scrambles - their keeper was their man of the match (and 
beaten only by Pablo for THE MoM)
It was a perfect response to the Blackburn defeat - a bit worrying that Berardi 
went off , presumably injured but with Bielsa, who knows it could have been 
tactical. Bielsa again used his subs wisely and excitingly making a double sub 
with over 30mins to go and no more cards to play. I love the way he re-acts to 
what is happening on the pitch - some managers seem to pre-plan the sub one 
striker for another on 60 mins every game or making no subs at all until time 
wasting at the end of a game.
With other results going our way this week - Boro being held at home by 
Rotherham and West Brom getting hammered at home by Derby means 'we are top'the 
league, say we are top'the league' - these results confirming what we already 
knew , this League is totally competitive and any result is possible in any 
match. This also elevates our performance and result last night - Man City v 
Cardiff or whoever is top and bottom of the Prem is pretty much a nailed on 
home win, that is not the case in the Championship (look at Birmingham turning 
us over when we were top and they were bottom or next to bottom) so beating 
Ipswich whilst expected was in no way a foregone conclusion and we needed to be 
at or near our best to do it, and that is what we were, back to our best
So onwards and upwards - with Forest to come Saturday evening - we will know by 
kick o

[LU] Ipswich report

[nat...@sky.com]

"United are back, United are back"
Well those of you who thought that we had been 'rumbled' may have to re-think 
things after a totally dominant display and a real return to the peak 
'Bielasball' last night - albeit against a very poor team who were low on 
confidence
Two slight moans - first, the crowd, whislt good in terms of numbers was as 
quiet during the first half as I can remember (practice for the Prem?) Secondly 
the fact that despite it being shooting practice at the end and almost the 
oldkids game of attack v defence we only managed 2 goals
However these two gripes are totally overshadowed by a tremendous performance, 
all made possible by the return of the magician , Pablo Hernandez, who was 
sublime and went through their back line like the proverbial knife through 
butter. He was a joy to watch and when he plays like this you wonder what he is 
doing in this Division. How we have missed him especially at home when faced 
with a team who pack the defence and come for a draw.
The other returnee, Kemar Roofe, also proved , yet again, that he is a centre 
forward not a winger, and when he is allowed to play up top he gets results, 
this time a lovely timed header when he got between the 2 defenders and met a 
brilliant cross by Pablo - the finish very similar to the goal v Derby (?) He 
buzzed around and caused them problems all evening.
Everyone played their part last night, with all 3 subs also doing well. Dallas 
showed what he can still offer something going forward and had one attempt just 
wide and one lovely run when he actually took on and beat two defenders. Pearce 
showed that he does still have a future- like the rest of us he must have 
wondered why he did not get the nod ahead of Dallas when Douglas got injured. 
Forshaw fitted into the system as if he was born into it and also went close 
with a rasping drive, he replaced the slightly subdued Saiz and kept the ball 
moving with little Batty-esque type passing and interceptions. 

We could have had a hatful with Alisoki coming closest to adding to the total 
with a great run and shot that came back from the inside of the post - he was 
another player who was back to his best last night , with a cross in the first 
half nearly causing a goal as the keeper could only parry it back into the 
danger zone.
The second goal and the one that eased all our tension off the pitch and led to 
total capitulation from Ipswich on it, was brilliant and well worked - a short 
corner came back to Pablo and his cross was superbly dummied by Phillips(?) and 
fell to Cooper who side footed it with his right from the edge of the box - yes 
League -One Liam as some call him finsihed with real skill and aplomb. That 
ended the game as a contest (if it ever was, since all  they managed was one 
easily saved header in the first half and were almost gifted a goal by Ayling 
right at the death) and it became almost a procession of us coming forward and 
having pot shots and scrambles - their keeper was their man of the match (and 
beaten only by Pablo for THE MoM)
It was a perfect response to the Blackburn defeat - a bit worrying that Berardi 
went off , presumably injured but with Bielsa, who knows it could have been 
tactical. Bielsa again used his subs wisely and excitingly making a double sub 
with over 30mins to go and no more cards to play. I love the way he re-acts to 
what is happening on the pitch - some managers seem to pre-plan the sub one 
striker for another on 60 mins every game or making no subs at all until time 
wasting at the end of a game.
With other results going our way this week - Boro being held at home by 
Rotherham and West Brom getting hammered at home by Derby means 'we are top'the 
league, say we are top'the league' - these results confirming what we already 
knew , this League is totally competitive and any result is possible in any 
match. This also elevates our performance and result last night - Man City v 
Cardiff or whoever is top and bottom of the Prem is pretty much a nailed on 
home win, that is not the case in the Championship (look at Birmingham turning 
us over when we were top and they were bottom or next to bottom) so beating 
Ipswich whilst expected was in no way a foregone conclusion and we needed to be 
at or near our best to do it, and that is what we were, back to our best
So onwards and upwards - with Forest to come Saturday evening - we will know by 
kick off what we need to stay top but I am confident if we can play like we did 
last night that no-one in this Division will beat us , so it is all about 
whether we play to our full potential. If Pablo plays like he did yesterday and 
Roofe continues to bang them in , we are going to remember this season for a 
long time
So to sum up, last night was brilliant and the bounce back we needed, 'rumbled' 
I don't think so -keep the faith, the future is white !
Dave
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[LU] ipswich!

[Richard Naef]

Amazingly if we win and the baggies draw or less we'll be back on the top.

ttfn

Richard


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[LU] Ipswich

[nat...@sky.com]

So an awful game between two poor teams comes to half time 0 0But o'Kane been 
sent off - push / punch / butt on an Ipswich player when stood next to the ref 
- stupid in the extreme and a straight red and 3 game banHaving been 
comfortable they then came into it with the extra man and hit the post with 
last kick of the half
Could still go either way since they are crap but down to ten makes it harder 
than it should be 
(Sacko on for injured Cibicki who missed our best chance)
Dave
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[LU] Ipswich

[Richard Naef]

Bloody hell we get a 5k allocation yet I still can't get a ticket, sold out 
already to season ticket holders. Can ST holders buy for non ST Holders?

Beginning to wish we were still crap, at least I'd get a chance to see us 
(lose) occasionally.

ttfn

Richard

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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Tim Whelan]

I've just found this video match report while reading an Ipswich forum to see 
what they said about us. It goes on a bit, but it's a good summary, and he 
thinks his own team played well. 

Forum | Leeds 3-2 ITFC - YouTube Match Report by benjaminbloom

  
|  
|   |  
Forum | Leeds 3-2 ITFC - YouTube Match Report by benjaminbloom
 https://youtu.be/RLUunQJ6ViQ Heres my immediate reaction to this afternoons 
eventsstrangely Id argue our ...  |  |

  |

 
 

On Saturday, 23 September 2017, 22:01, David W  
wrote:
 

 Good report Rich. 

Shaughnessy is a good young lad but after his lovely pass for the first goal 
today he looked what he is. A 20 year old lad who hasn't played as a centre 
back until this season. There is promise there but he is 4th choice. His poor 
decisions and positioning pulled Cooper out of position more than once today. 

I just don't like Wieldweld (sorry for spelling) and you can tell that his 
defence don't trust him. What he gains us in quick distribution he more than 
loses us in a pervasive sense of insecurity.  I'd play Lonergan.  Certainly in 
matches you know we are going to get an aerial bombardment (like Cardiff). 

Saiz may have hung on to the ball fractionally long at times today but he is 
still lovely to watch. Wonderful to have him. With Alioski key to remember he 
has only been here a couple of months and he only converted from being a left 
back a year or so back I think.  The final ball and decision making will 
improve. He has the skills and scares defenders. 

A lot of the reviews I've read online underestimate how well Ipswich played. 
They may not be the most talented but Big Mick set them up well, they disrupted 
the game and they put the ball into difficult areas. McGoldrick was a real 
handful. A win against them is no shabby result. 

Isn't Ayling brilliant?


Sent from my iPhone

> On 23. Sep 2017, at 20:30, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let's not forget that this is a great win against a team that will be around 
> the play offs and provided very stiff opposition. I loved the way we bounced 
> straight back after they equalised and how we continued to play and break on 
> the counter to try and kill the game off. 
> However, I'm going to judge the game on its own and to be honest at times I 
> found it hard to watch. This was not Burton and I think we showed a lot of 
> frailties all over the park. 
> For starters, the manager's tactics were suspect. Playing Hernandes as a left 
> winger doesn't work for me and he's too isolated and unable to get involved. 
> Also at the back today I thought we were very shaky. Shaughnessy and Cooper 
> have both done ok this season but together today they looked at times to be 
> struggling against an Ipswich team who thrive on corners and set pieces. I'm 
> amazed we got away with to be honest because I think this game also showed us 
> that Weildwald is going to struggle in this league against teams who lump it 
> into the box at every opportunity. He was all over the place, not coming for 
> crosses, dithering and not giving any confidence to his defence. 
> I thought at times first half was pretty poor from us, O'Kane was terrible, 
> definitely his worst 45 mins in a Leeds shirt and he's had some average ones 
> and Philips who took his goal brilliantly was largely anonymous and just 
> seemed to be wondering around aimlessly. Allioski couldn't get in the game 
> and Siaz seemed a little isolated. 
> The most frustrating thing for me was we seem to have a plan to always play 
> it out at the back, Ipswich didn't allow us to do that and it seemed like 
> Wieldwald didn't have a clue what to do ? Surely we practice plan B i.e. the 
> big punt up the field. Ok, it's not pretty and it might not be the way the 
> current team is lined up to play but when the short ball isn't on surely 
> there's no option ? Wieldwald looked confused and shaky. He's no Rob Green 
> for me. 
> There was patches of good play from us particularly the first goal which saw 
> Shaugnessy advance up the field and play the best ball of the day through to 
> Lasogga who made a great run and slotted it on the far corner - great finish. 
> We also had a couple of other chances , the best falling to Siaz who should 
> have shot but hung on to the ball too long and the chance wasted. He does 
> that too often for me, but we forgive him.  
> The Ipswich equaliser came from a free kick (there's a surprise) and it was 
> easy as can be - cross, unmarked McGoldrick , free header , 1-1. Who was 
> marking him  ? We haven't had to ask that question in PJ ('Post Jansson') 
> times and it took me back to defensive problems that troubled us for years. 
> We missed Jansson, as we did at Bolton, and without him we're not the same 
> team. Hope he's back for Cardiff. 
> But then we immediately bounced back and produced the moment of the game with 
> O'kane , Lasogga and 

Re: [LU] Ipswich

[David W]

Good report Rich. 

Shaughnessy is a good young lad but after his lovely pass for the first goal 
today he looked what he is. A 20 year old lad who hasn't played as a centre 
back until this season. There is promise there but he is 4th choice. His poor 
decisions and positioning pulled Cooper out of position more than once today. 

I just don't like Wieldweld (sorry for spelling) and you can tell that his 
defence don't trust him. What he gains us in quick distribution he more than 
loses us in a pervasive sense of insecurity.  I'd play Lonergan.  Certainly in 
matches you know we are going to get an aerial bombardment (like Cardiff). 

Saiz may have hung on to the ball fractionally long at times today but he is 
still lovely to watch. Wonderful to have him. With Alioski key to remember he 
has only been here a couple of months and he only converted from being a left 
back a year or so back I think.  The final ball and decision making will 
improve. He has the skills and scares defenders. 

A lot of the reviews I've read online underestimate how well Ipswich played. 
They may not be the most talented but Big Mick set them up well, they disrupted 
the game and they put the ball into difficult areas. McGoldrick was a real 
handful. A win against them is no shabby result. 

Isn't Ayling brilliant?


Sent from my iPhone

> On 23. Sep 2017, at 20:30, {broken-address} Richard Walker 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let's not forget that this is a great win against a team that will be around 
> the play offs and provided very stiff opposition. I loved the way we bounced 
> straight back after they equalised and how we continued to play and break on 
> the counter to try and kill the game off. 
> However, I'm going to judge the game on its own and to be honest at times I 
> found it hard to watch. This was not Burton and I think we showed a lot of 
> frailties all over the park. 
> For starters, the manager's tactics were suspect. Playing Hernandes as a left 
> winger doesn't work for me and he's too isolated and unable to get involved. 
> Also at the back today I thought we were very shaky. Shaughnessy and Cooper 
> have both done ok this season but together today they looked at times to be 
> struggling against an Ipswich team who thrive on corners and set pieces. I'm 
> amazed we got away with to be honest because I think this game also showed us 
> that Weildwald is going to struggle in this league against teams who lump it 
> into the box at every opportunity. He was all over the place, not coming for 
> crosses, dithering and not giving any confidence to his defence. 
> I thought at times first half was pretty poor from us, O'Kane was terrible, 
> definitely his worst 45 mins in a Leeds shirt and he's had some average ones 
> and Philips who took his goal brilliantly was largely anonymous and just 
> seemed to be wondering around aimlessly. Allioski couldn't get in the game 
> and Siaz seemed a little isolated. 
> The most frustrating thing for me was we seem to have a plan to always play 
> it out at the back, Ipswich didn't allow us to do that and it seemed like 
> Wieldwald didn't have a clue what to do ? Surely we practice plan B i.e. the 
> big punt up the field. Ok, it's not pretty and it might not be the way the 
> current team is lined up to play but when the short ball isn't on surely 
> there's no option ? Wieldwald looked confused and shaky. He's no Rob Green 
> for me. 
> There was patches of good play from us particularly the first goal which saw 
> Shaugnessy advance up the field and play the best ball of the day through to 
> Lasogga who made a great run and slotted it on the far corner - great finish. 
> We also had a couple of other chances , the best falling to Siaz who should 
> have shot but hung on to the ball too long and the chance wasted. He does 
> that too often for me, but we forgive him.  
> The Ipswich equaliser came from a free kick (there's a surprise) and it was 
> easy as can be - cross, unmarked McGoldrick , free header , 1-1. Who was 
> marking him  ? We haven't had to ask that question in PJ ('Post Jansson') 
> times and it took me back to defensive problems that troubled us for years. 
> We missed Jansson, as we did at Bolton, and without him we're not the same 
> team. Hope he's back for Cardiff. 
> But then we immediately bounced back and produced the moment of the game with 
> O'kane , Lasogga and Siaz who cleverly headed to Philips who still had a lot 
> of work to do. He nipped in and from a tight angle put the ball in the back 
> of the net. There's not many strikers in this league who would have scored 
> that goal. Great play Kalvin.   
> Ipswich came again and were unlucky not to go in level when on the stroke of 
> half time they won yet another header in the box only to see little Vern on 
> the line clear it away. 
> Happy to see us go in 2-1 at half time but undeserved. 
> Second half, Ipswich continued to play the best football 

[LU] Ipswich

[nat...@sky.com]

3 more points and still top of the League - I would have taken that at 3pm so 
got to be happy with the outcome.Even better we showed that Millwall was just a 
blip and that we are genuine contenders for promotion -either automatic or 
through the play offsWe knew that Ipswich were decent and that they were going 
to be a tough team to beat and a team that would give everything and never give 
up, and so it proved
We just about deserved the win but a draw would not have been unfair on either 
team. Having said that I always thought that we would win. We started brightly 
and scored a lovely opener. Shaunessey played a great ball through, very 
similar to the one by Pablo to Sacko at Burnley. Lassogga let the ball run 
through and then just slotted it in - a cracking finish from a good player.

At this stage I thought we would step it up and win at a canter: instead we got 
sloppy and loose and over did things. This resulted in us giving away  a 
needlees corner - a corner that brought back all the old failings on the pitch 
and nightmares off it as two Ipswich players found themselves unmarked on the 
penalty spot and one headed home. The general feeling was that that would not 
have happened if Pontus had been playing.
Thankfully there was little time for recriminations or worry as a brilliant bit 
of link up play ended with Saiz putting a great cushioned header into space in 
the box and Phillips popped up and went round the keeper and scoring from a 
tight angle. 2 1 and once again I thought we would go on and win comfortably. 

However in the ten minutes before half time both sides could have scored - 
first another lovely piece of play ended with a tremendous back flick from 
Pablo into the path of saiz who should have shot and scored first time - 
instead he took it back inside and messed it up. Then jsut before the whistle 
Anita earned his wages heading one off the line (again)
the second half promised a lot but delivered little as the two teams cancelled 
each other out for the most part. They huffed and puffed to little effect and 
we hit them on the break but it never quite came off. The second half will be 
remembered (if it is remembered) for two dreadful goalkeeping errors - first a 
corner from Pablo was caught on the line and then dropped over it by their 
keeper. THat made it 3 1 and we should have been comfortable but Felix - having 
come out dangerously but brilliantly to stop an attack in the first half - gave 
his critics some big ammunition when he palmed a straightforward cross back 
into the box and to the feet of the Ipswich player who could not miss
the clock / scoreboard was not working so I was never sure how long there was 
left as we hung on, reasonably confidently but no where near 100% to the lead 
and the 3 points
Not the best of games or performances but it was a win and 3 more goals - 2 
crackers in their own way and whilst we conceeded there was a belief that we 
would not have done so if Pontus was playing
2 tough away games coming up but this was the perfect result if not performance 
going into them
Dave

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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 lol ! - Chateauneuf-du-pape to celebrate still top of the league. £20 from 
Costco and actually tastes like CNP unlike some of the young supermarket stuff 
they try to label under the name which barely resembles the real stuff. 
I'm enjoying the season and the situation. I spent half an hour with 
Up-Yer-Ronson and Tony Hannan before the game in the new 'Fanzone' . Impressed. 
It was good to walk into the game with New Order belting out. 


On Saturday, 23 September 2017, 20:06:54 BST, Damian Walsh 
 wrote:  
 
 Moaning? Rich I think that it the nicest match report you've ever done - we
must be good :)

Damian

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:30 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

>
> Top of the league - stop moaning (that's me predicting the replies to this
> match report and that's fair enough.
>
>
>
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Re: [LU] Ipswich game

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 don't disagree with your statement about when Allioski, Siaz and Hernandes are 
on song they are unplayable however I think the days when they're all on song 
will be few. I'm thinking today, Brum, Millwall 
On Saturday, 23 September 2017, 19:58:41 BST, Richard Naef 
<rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk> wrote:  
 
 I hope that the reason for Jansson being missing was that he had only just 
recovered and could do with a couple more days.

As regards looking lightweight, I'm not sure I agree, plenty of skill, but 
today Alioski was below par, his crossing was terrible, but when all 3 are on 
song they are unplayable.  When they aren't Dallas, Grot and Roofe are all 
worthy subs, TC maybe needs to move things around a little earlier.  Despite a 
dip in the last 3 league games we are still top of the bloody league  

Cardiff are eminently beatable! 

ttfn

Richard

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Subject: [LU] Ipswich game




TC may take the 3-2 result as a vindication of his team selection, but I 
continue to believe that we look a little lightweight going forward when 
Hernandez, Saiz and Alioski are all on the field together. Of greater concern 
to me, however, was TC's post-match comment that Jansson was fit, but that he 
had decided not to select him. I don't understand that. Shaughnessy is a good 
player, and clearly made a beautiful pass for Lasogga's goal, but the defense 
as a whole looks much more solid when Jansson is playing. For example, 
McGoldrick's free header for Ipswich's first goal came from exactly the sort of 
position from which Jansson usually heads clear. I hope Pontus is back for 
Tuesday night. Simply put, we have not conceded a goal this season when Cooper 
and Jansson are the center-half pairing.


I also remain unconvinced by Wiedwald. A top keeper should have held the shot 
he parried into the path of the Ipswich player for their second goal. In 
addition, too often his clearances go straight into touch and he does not seem 
to command his box, often weakly punching high balls back into the danger area.


Nonetheless, it's another three points. Cardiff will provide an even sterner 
test, however.


Cheers!


Sean
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Damian Walsh]

Moaning? Rich I think that it the nicest match report you've ever done - we
must be good :)

Damian

On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 8:30 PM, {broken-address} Richard Walker <
richleed...@yahoo.co.uk.is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

>
> Top of the league - stop moaning (that's me predicting the replies to this
> match report and that's fair enough.
>
>
>
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[Richard Naef]

I hope that the reason for Jansson being missing was that he had only just 
recovered and could do with a couple more days.

As regards looking lightweight, I'm not sure I agree, plenty of skill, but 
today Alioski was below par, his crossing was terrible, but when all 3 are on 
song they are unplayable.  When they aren't Dallas, Grot and Roofe are all 
worthy subs, TC maybe needs to move things around a little earlier.  Despite a 
dip in the last 3 league games we are still top of the bloody league  

Cardiff are eminently beatable! 

ttfn

Richard

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Subject: [LU] Ipswich game




TC may take the 3-2 result as a vindication of his team selection, but I 
continue to believe that we look a little lightweight going forward when 
Hernandez, Saiz and Alioski are all on the field together. Of greater concern 
to me, however, was TC's post-match comment that Jansson was fit, but that he 
had decided not to select him. I don't understand that. Shaughnessy is a good 
player, and clearly made a beautiful pass for Lasogga's goal, but the defense 
as a whole looks much more solid when Jansson is playing. For example, 
McGoldrick's free header for Ipswich's first goal came from exactly the sort of 
position from which Jansson usually heads clear. I hope Pontus is back for 
Tuesday night. Simply put, we have not conceded a goal this season when Cooper 
and Jansson are the center-half pairing.


I also remain unconvinced by Wiedwald. A top keeper should have held the shot 
he parried into the path of the Ipswich player for their second goal. In 
addition, too often his clearances go straight into touch and he does not seem 
to command his box, often weakly punching high balls back into the danger area.


Nonetheless, it's another three points. Cardiff will provide an even sterner 
test, however.


Cheers!


Sean
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[LU] Ipswich

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

 Let's not forget that this is a great win against a team that will be around 
the play offs and provided very stiff opposition. I loved the way we bounced 
straight back after they equalised and how we continued to play and break on 
the counter to try and kill the game off. 
However, I'm going to judge the game on its own and to be honest at times I 
found it hard to watch. This was not Burton and I think we showed a lot of 
frailties all over the park. 
For starters, the manager's tactics were suspect. Playing Hernandes as a left 
winger doesn't work for me and he's too isolated and unable to get involved. 
Also at the back today I thought we were very shaky. Shaughnessy and Cooper 
have both done ok this season but together today they looked at times to be 
struggling against an Ipswich team who thrive on corners and set pieces. I'm 
amazed we got away with to be honest because I think this game also showed us 
that Weildwald is going to struggle in this league against teams who lump it 
into the box at every opportunity. He was all over the place, not coming for 
crosses, dithering and not giving any confidence to his defence. 
I thought at times first half was pretty poor from us, O'Kane was terrible, 
definitely his worst 45 mins in a Leeds shirt and he's had some average ones 
and Philips who took his goal brilliantly was largely anonymous and just seemed 
to be wondering around aimlessly. Allioski couldn't get in the game and Siaz 
seemed a little isolated. 
The most frustrating thing for me was we seem to have a plan to always play it 
out at the back, Ipswich didn't allow us to do that and it seemed like 
Wieldwald didn't have a clue what to do ? Surely we practice plan B i.e. the 
big punt up the field. Ok, it's not pretty and it might not be the way the 
current team is lined up to play but when the short ball isn't on surely 
there's no option ? Wieldwald looked confused and shaky. He's no Rob Green for 
me. 
There was patches of good play from us particularly the first goal which saw 
Shaugnessy advance up the field and play the best ball of the day through to 
Lasogga who made a great run and slotted it on the far corner - great finish. 
We also had a couple of other chances , the best falling to Siaz who should 
have shot but hung on to the ball too long and the chance wasted. He does that 
too often for me, but we forgive him.  
The Ipswich equaliser came from a free kick (there's a surprise) and it was 
easy as can be - cross, unmarked McGoldrick , free header , 1-1. Who was 
marking him  ? We haven't had to ask that question in PJ ('Post Jansson') times 
and it took me back to defensive problems that troubled us for years. We missed 
Jansson, as we did at Bolton, and without him we're not the same team. Hope 
he's back for Cardiff. 
But then we immediately bounced back and produced the moment of the game with 
O'kane , Lasogga and Siaz who cleverly headed to Philips who still had a lot of 
work to do. He nipped in and from a tight angle put the ball in the back of the 
net. There's not many strikers in this league who would have scored that goal. 
Great play Kalvin.   
Ipswich came again and were unlucky not to go in level when on the stroke of 
half time they won yet another header in the box only to see little Vern on the 
line clear it away. 
Happy to see us go in 2-1 at half time but undeserved. 
Second half, Ipswich continued to play the best football and pepper our goal 
with crosses whereas we looked pretty careless when we had the ball. 
McGouldrick (Man of the match by a country mile) was denied by Wieldwald and I 
thought they would go on to take this game. 
But we came back and that's great credit to this team and the management. 
O'Kane who had his worst first half probably had his best 45 minutes in the 
second half and Siaz and Allioski came alive. We were playing on the counter 
attack but that's effective and Ipswich couldn't handle it. 
The 3rd was lucky but still clever from Hernandes. I saw their keepr advance a 
couple of yards of his line in preparation for the cross. Hernandes saw it and 
fired in the corner. It still should have been comfortable for him but he was 
slightly unbalanced and made a complete arse of it dropping it over the line. 
3-1 and game over. 
Well no actually, Ipswich continued to attack and yet another cross was not 
dealt with by Wieldwald (weak keeping) and he just pushed it in to the path of 
the Ipswich player who stroked it home. 
To be fair to us, we looked for the 4th and did not hold on and actually played 
some of our best football whereas McCarthy took of McGoldrick and Ipswich 
didn't look as dangerous. We had chances to finish it but yet again Saiz did 
all the hard work but failed to finish. 
As I said, in my first paragraph, this was a great win and I am very happy with 
it but as a performance I think we can learn lots from the weaknesses we showed 
in this game which were more in this game than I've seen for a while. 
Scores:

[LU] Ipswich game

[{broken-address}]

TC may take the 3-2 result as a vindication of his team selection, but I 
continue to believe that we look a little lightweight going forward when 
Hernandez, Saiz and Alioski are all on the field together. Of greater concern 
to me, however, was TC's post-match comment that Jansson was fit, but that he 
had decided not to select him. I don't understand that. Shaughnessy is a good 
player, and clearly made a beautiful pass for Lasogga's goal, but the defense 
as a whole looks much more solid when Jansson is playing. For example, 
McGoldrick's free header for Ipswich's first goal came from exactly the sort of 
position from which Jansson usually heads clear. I hope Pontus is back for 
Tuesday night. Simply put, we have not conceded a goal this season when Cooper 
and Jansson are the center-half pairing.


I also remain unconvinced by Wiedwald. A top keeper should have held the shot 
he parried into the path of the Ipswich player for their second goal. In 
addition, too often his clearances go straight into touch and he does not seem 
to command his box, often weakly punching high balls back into the danger area.


Nonetheless, it's another three points. Cardiff will provide an even sterner 
test, however.


Cheers!


Sean
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[LU] Ipswich Away Pub (if going by Road)

[Rick Duniec (@ntl)]

>I'm dwayne and like you i'm absolutely crazy about leeds united who i have 
>followed since the early seventies.i now live aprrox 27 miles from ipswich 
>wherei run a big hungy horse pub , a small town called bury st edmunds. 
Can you through your blog invite anyone coming down to the ipswich game to stop 
at my pub for either liquid or food refreshments, it would certainly make my 
year if i could get fellow leeds supporters filling up my pub especially when 
im used to it full of ipswich chelsea arsenal man utd fans !!! The pubs name is 
the greengage ip32 6rl. Thanks a lot mate 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich Away Pub (if going by Road)

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

Hungy Horse?! What kind if name is that?
 

  From: "Rick Duniec (@ntl)" <ri...@ntlworld.com>
 To: Leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 9:00 AM
 Subject: [LU] Ipswich Away Pub (if going by Road)
   
>I'm dwayne and like you i'm absolutely crazy about leeds united who i have 
>followed since the early seventies.i now live aprrox 27 miles from ipswich 
>wherei run a big hungy horse pub , a small town called bury st edmunds. 
Can you through your blog invite anyone coming down to the ipswich game to stop 
at my pub for either liquid or food refreshments, it would certainly make my 
year if i could get fellow leeds supporters filling up my pub especially when 
im used to it full of ipswich chelsea arsenal man utd fans !!! The pubs name is 
the greengage ip32 6rl. Thanks a lot mate 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Richard walker]

Adeyemi and Murphy together in midfield and Cook on the wing was a shocking 
decision, 

Rosler seems pretty clueless.

> On 16 Sep 2015, at 07:10, Nick Allen  wrote:
> 
> Well that was as uninspiring a 90 minutes as you could wish to spend. 
> Clueless, guileless garbage...both teams. The difference being that Ipswich 
> were faster and more physical, and they took the gift offered by Silvestri.
> 
> Rosler picked the starting eleven that most of us probably would have done, 
> but it left him nothing on the bench if he needed to change things to win the 
> game...Byram on for Dallas after 60 minutes...changes nothing except 
> replacing a specialist winger with one learning that role. 
> 
> Playing Cook on the left is a waste.
> 
> Bamba was an accident waiting to happen after another reckless booking ten 
> minutes in.
> 
> Whatever Wood brings to the team, he is not a target man. And there's not a 
> lot of point in lumping the ball at Antenucci's head either.
> 
> Play your best players in their best position. So, you'd have the same back 
> 5, Byram, Murphy, Cook, Dallas and either Mowatt or Adeyemi across the 
> Middle...and Antenucci up front. Raise the tempo and pass the ball to feet.
> 
> However much the crowd dislike the methodical build up from the back, 
> including lots of passes back to Silvestri, it is clearly what Rosler wants 
> them to do...so there's not a lot of point in barracking them about it.
> 
> Very poor indeed.
> 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[David W]

I think part of the frustration of the crowd comes from the fact that
Rosler has promised them one thing (Heavy Metal, press the opposition, play
in their half) and is delivering another - slow, methodical.

Though it seems very unfair, as he has been one of our better performers, I
would tempted to drop Berardi to get Byram a run at right back. Back on
form he can deliver a drive and impetus down that right that Berardi can't
and can get the crowd going.  We need something to get some oomph and
momentum back in our play.

Also bewildered at neither Erwin nor Botaka on the bench last night. 0-1
down in the last 20 mins and he didn't bring on Doukara. One can therefore
safely assume he will never bring on Doukara - if not then when? So surely
have either Erwin and/or Botaka as an option? It's something different.

Rosler, as so many managers do under Cellino operating under a perpetual
sword of damocles, is allowing play and tactics to be inhibited by fear of
defeat rather than pushing the game and driving for the win.

Still hopeful Rosler will deliver more, but he needs to be braver and
bolder (not just balder).

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nick Allen  wrote:

> Well that was as uninspiring a 90 minutes as you could wish to spend.
> Clueless, guileless garbage...both teams. The difference being that Ipswich
> were faster and more physical, and they took the gift offered by Silvestri.
>
> Rosler picked the starting eleven that most of us probably would have
> done, but it left him nothing on the bench if he needed to change things to
> win the game...Byram on for Dallas after 60 minutes...changes nothing
> except replacing a specialist winger with one learning that role.
>
> Playing Cook on the left is a waste.
>
> Bamba was an accident waiting to happen after another reckless booking ten
> minutes in.
>
> Whatever Wood brings to the team, he is not a target man. And there's not
> a lot of point in lumping the ball at Antenucci's head either.
>
> Play your best players in their best position. So, you'd have the same
> back 5, Byram, Murphy, Cook, Dallas and either Mowatt or Adeyemi across the
> Middle...and Antenucci up front. Raise the tempo and pass the ball to feet.
>
> However much the crowd dislike the methodical build up from the back,
> including lots of passes back to Silvestri, it is clearly what Rosler wants
> them to do...so there's not a lot of point in barracking them about it.
>
> Very poor indeed.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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[n...@6haroldplace.co.uk]

aye Dave - agree there's not much to choose between the two...and on that
balance I'd rather Billy than uncle Steve, but I'd rather Antenucci than
either...

 On 05 March 2015 at 10:12 nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
  I thought at the time that Sharp had mis-hit it but looking at it on TV this
 is not clear so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. It also looked as if the
 ball from Cook was aimed at the onrushing Leeds player but was beyond him and
 fell to Sharp. 
   
  I think Sharp is just an out and out goal poacher in the Linker mould. Since
 goals are what decide games I would rather have him than the non scoring
 Morison even if overall his contribution is better
  Dave
 
  -
  ...a touch or two and lovely cross pulled back to just just beyond the
 penalty spot, where a swivelling Billy Sharp shins the thing into the bottom
 corner...
 
  Sharp - don’t rate him, doesn’t hold the ball up, can’t beat defenders in the
 air or on the ground...one decent shinner, but he was in the right place to
 get it.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[MATTHEW GAYNOR]

Listening on the radio, Adam Pope and Noel Whelan were expressing concern about 
the Ipswich player who was down injured.

Then they realised it was Varney - at which point Whelan said ' should have 
kicked him harder'.
Later when Varney got subbed, Whelan joined in with the crowds booing.

Quite an achievement to become so unpopular when we had such a succession of 
average players in recent years.

Matt




 From: nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com
To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org 
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Subject: [LU] Ipswich report

 
 In this state of fugue it was obvious that I would soon be seeing Varney 
leaping like a salmon and powering a header into the net right in front of me. 
Luckily it was offside and apart from a good headed pass later on Varney was 
not to prove a torn in our side.
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[nat...@sky.com]

I thought at the time that Sharp had mis-hit it but looking at it on TV this is 
not clear so I gave him the benefit of the doubt. It also looked as if the ball 
from Cook was aimed at the onrushing Leeds player but was beyond him and fell 
to Sharp. 
I think Sharp is just an out and out goal poacher in the Linker mould. Since 
goals are what decide games I would rather have him than the non scoring 
Morison even if overall his contribution is betterDave …a touch or two and 
lovely cross pulled back to just just beyond the penalty spot, where a 
swivelling Billy Sharp shins the thing into the bottom corner…

Sharp - don’t rate him, doesn’t hold the ball up, can’t beat defenders in the 
air or on the ground…one decent shinner, but he was in the right place to get 
it.





  
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[LU] Ipswich report

[nat...@sky.com]

I arrived at the ground in a state of shock having been told that the IPA I had 
ordered in Spencers (now Head of Steam) was £6 ! £6 - a - pint, for IPA, in 
Spencers ! My bafflement was further compounded by the team news - Bellusic 
back,  no suprise but neither Cooper nor Bamba out, was he to play in midfield? 
No we had 4 centre halves across the back with Taylor doing a Byram. In this 
state of fugue it was obvious that I would soon be seeing Varney leaping like a 
salmon and powering a header into the net right in front of me. Luckily it was 
offside and apart from a good headed pass later on Varney was not to prove a 
torn in our side. Ipswich started well and we didn't but they did not look very 
good and their mistake quota was high as they misplaced passes and got it wrong 
a number of times in a poor first half. We did not do much either but did seem, 
once again, to be denied a definite penalty when Sharp was pushed over in the 
box. So the first half came and went - with Millwall losing and Wigan bound to 
lose at Norwich (sic) a point would be OK in the great scheme of things. The 
second half was a bit better as we had more control of it with Taylor 
impressing and Byram more to the fore. Byram got involved in a few tussles with 
their number 3, on one occasion losing and winning the ball in an individual 
battle  3 or 4 times. The opening goal came from this private battle as their 
defender fouled Byram on the corner of the box - 'dont shoot ffs' said my mate 
as we watched Mowatt bend it round the wall and into the corner of the net! 1 
up and just about deserved.My mate did mutter something about us scoring too 
early and that we would lose 1 2 'Just keep the ball a bit' was the accepted 
wisdom on the terraces but the players had forgotten how to do that and did not 
touch the ball between the goal and the equaliser. Earlier on Silvestri had 
made a top class save and brought comments from those near me as to what a find 
he has been and what a great shot stopper. The fans curse, since he decided on 
this occasion to let a soft shot squirm under his body. Think Sprake in 1970 - 
not a bad comparison both for the shot and non save  but also for how bad the 
pitch seemed to be getting. My mates half joke 2 1 to them suddenly looked on. 
We are made of a bit sterner stuff nowadays and we woke up and went at them 
again. A run by Cooke, a nice cut back and Sharp did what he does best - he 
turned and put it in the net, good finish. Surely that was game over? No in  
move,following Silvestris error, that had us saying 'betting scandal' Bamba 
went in to a challenge  just inside the box in the corner, with both his hands 
raised and then complained when the ref gave a penalty when he touched the ball 
with one of them. Silvestri (or the post or both) however redeemed himself and 
the penalty was missed. We sent on Morrison for Sharp, presumably to help us 
keep the ball a bit more and we did indeed manage to run the clock down and get 
3 more points that is edging us ever closer to safety.Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[nat...@sky.com]

Yes SIX pounds - to be fair she did tell me when I ordered and let me choose 
something else. Spencers (the Q bar back in the day) is now a real ale only pub 
- no Smiths or Tetleys etc.called the Head of Steam They have given it a lick 
of paint but done nothing structurally and driven out all the old drunks - 
there was a table full of office workers last night. I got a pint of Leeds pale 
but was my mates round so not sure how much it was. The IPA had some name but 
cannot remember what, so no idea why it was so expensiveDave
  From: Peter Doherty forzale...@aol.com
 To: Leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org; nat...@sky.com 
 Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 13:17
 Subject: RE: [LU] Ipswich report
   
Dave, £6 is that a typo? 
Good news Prime Minister the recession is over even the Yorkshire people are 
buying beer at £6 a pint! 

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone



 nat...@sky.com wrote 

I arrived at the ground in a state of shock having been told that the IPA I 
had ordered in Spencers (now Head of Steam) was £6 ! £6 - a - pint, for IPA, 
in Spencers ! My bafflement was further compounded by the team news - Bellusic 
back,  no suprise but neither Cooper nor Bamba out, was he to play in 
midfield? No we had 4 centre halves across the back with Taylor doing a Byram. 
In this state of fugue it was obvious that I would soon be seeing Varney 
leaping like a salmon and powering a header into the net right in front of me. 
Luckily it was offside and apart from a good headed pass later on Varney was 
not to prove a torn in our side. Ipswich started well and we didn't but they 
did not look very good and their mistake quota was high as they misplaced 
passes and got it wrong a number of times in a poor first half. We did not do 
much either but did seem, once again, to be denied a definite penalty when 
Sharp was pushed over in the box. So the first half came and went - with 
Millwall losing and Wigan bound to lose at Norwich (sic) a point would be OK 
in the great scheme of things. The second half was a bit better as we had more 
control of it with Taylor impressing and Byram more to the fore. Byram got 
involved in a few tussles with their number 3, on one occasion losing and 
winning the ball in an individual battle  3 or 4 times. The opening goal came 
from this private battle as their defender fouled Byram on the corner of the 
box - 'dont shoot ffs' said my mate as we watched Mowatt bend it round the 
wall and into the corner of the net! 1 up and just about deserved.My mate did 
mutter something about us scoring too early and that we would lose 1 2 'Just 
keep the ball a bit' was the accepted wisdom on the terraces but the players 
had forgotten how to do that and did not touch the ball between the goal and 
the equaliser. Earlier on Silvestri had made a top class save and brought 
comments from those near me as to what a find he has been and what a great 
shot stopper. The fans curse, since he decided on this occasion to let a soft 
shot squirm under his body. Think Sprake in 1970 - not a bad comparison both 
for the shot and non save  but also for how bad the pitch seemed to be 
getting. My mates half joke 2 1 to them suddenly looked on. We are made of a 
bit sterner stuff nowadays and we woke up and went at them again. A run by 
Cooke, a nice cut back and Sharp did what he does best - he turned and put it 
in the net, good finish. Surely that was game over? No in  move,following 
Silvestris error, that had us saying 'betting scandal' Bamba went in to a 
challenge  just inside the box in the corner, with both his hands raised and 
then complained when the ref gave a penalty when he touched the ball with one 
of them. Silvestri (or the post or both) however redeemed himself and the 
penalty was missed. We sent on Morrison for Sharp, presumably to help us keep 
the ball a bit more and we did indeed manage to run the clock down and get 3 
more points that is edging us ever closer to safety.Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[[broken-address] Peter Doherty]

Dave, £6 is that a typo? 
Good news Prime Minister the recession is over even the Yorkshire people are 
buying beer at £6 a pint! 

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

 nat...@sky.com wrote 

I arrived at the ground in a state of shock having been told that the IPA I 
had ordered in Spencers (now Head of Steam) was £6 ! £6 - a - pint, for IPA, 
in Spencers ! My bafflement was further compounded by the team news - Bellusic 
back,  no suprise but neither Cooper nor Bamba out, was he to play in 
midfield? No we had 4 centre halves across the back with Taylor doing a Byram. 
In this state of fugue it was obvious that I would soon be seeing Varney 
leaping like a salmon and powering a header into the net right in front of me. 
Luckily it was offside and apart from a good headed pass later on Varney was 
not to prove a torn in our side. Ipswich started well and we didn't but they 
did not look very good and their mistake quota was high as they misplaced 
passes and got it wrong a number of times in a poor first half. We did not do 
much either but did seem, once again, to be denied a definite penalty when 
Sharp was pushed over in the box. So the first half came and went - with 
Millwall losing and Wigan bound to lose at Norwich (sic) a point would be OK 
in the great scheme of things. The second half was a bit better as we had more 
control of it with Taylor impressing and Byram more to the fore. Byram got 
involved in a few tussles with their number 3, on one occasion losing and 
winning the ball in an individual battle  3 or 4 times. The opening goal came 
from this private battle as their defender fouled Byram on the corner of the 
box - 'dont shoot ffs' said my mate as we watched Mowatt bend it round the 
wall and into the corner of the net! 1 up and just about deserved.My mate did 
mutter something about us scoring too early and that we would lose 1 2 'Just 
keep the ball a bit' was the accepted wisdom on the terraces but the players 
had forgotten how to do that and did not touch the ball between the goal and 
the equaliser. Earlier on Silvestri had made a top class save and brought 
comments from those near me as to what a find he has been and what a great 
shot stopper. The fans curse, since he decided on this occasion to let a soft 
shot squirm under his body. Think Sprake in 1970 - not a bad comparison both 
for the shot and non save  but also for how bad the pitch seemed to be 
getting. My mates half joke 2 1 to them suddenly looked on. We are made of a 
bit sterner stuff nowadays and we woke up and went at them again. A run by 
Cooke, a nice cut back and Sharp did what he does best - he turned and put it 
in the net, good finish. Surely that was game over? No in  move,following 
Silvestris error, that had us saying 'betting scandal' Bamba went in to a 
challenge  just inside the box in the corner, with both his hands raised and 
then complained when the ref gave a penalty when he touched the ball with one 
of them. Silvestri (or the post or both) however redeemed himself and the 
penalty was missed. We sent on Morrison for Sharp, presumably to help us keep 
the ball a bit more and we did indeed manage to run the clock down and get 3 
more points that is edging us ever closer to safety.Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[tim . whelan]

Ipswich have certainly gone downhill since they started signing our cast-offs, 
slipping out of the play-off positions to seventh.


Their fans seem desperately unimpressed with their performance last night and 
their form since Christmas in general:-
http://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/page:1

Tim W.




 From: Nick n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2015, 7:27
Subject: [LU] Ipswich
 

This was a dull match…a really dull match…for 70 minutes next to nothing of any 
note happened - Ipswich had an early goal disallowed, we had a decent penalty 
shout denied mid-way through the first half. Other than that zip, nada…Christ 
it was boring. The most fun I had was when my mate turned up at half time 
having missed the train he should have caught up from London. How we laughed.

Hardly surprising that we did’t set the world on fire, with our 4 CHalfs 
playing across the back - Cooper moved to LBack to allow the return of Bellucci 
- replacing the injured Austin - so Taylor moved to LMidfield -  meaning we now 
had both full backs in midfield.

Wootton and Cooper do not look comfortable at full back - both frequently out 
of position, caught tucking in too close to their CHalf…not doing enough going 
forward, and to be fair, not being good enough or comfortable enough on the 
ball going forward, so staying back is probably the best option for them, but 
it limits the team’s attacking options severely.

On 70, we got a free kick on our right-side of the box, 25 yards out. Mowatt 
stepped up and thumped a beauty right in by the post…it looks like their keeper 
flapped and missed as he feared a collision with the post. Many keepers would 
have kept it out. Joyous celebrations around the ground and that feel-good 
factor lasted precisely 1 and half minutes until Silvestri began his one-man 
campaign to entertain…somehow he let a something and nothing 20 yard grubber 
run under his body…1-1. Back down the other end, minutes later…the sub, 
Antenucci, controls a high ball well, turns his man, holds onto it for a second 
or two…Cook flashes by him down the right wing, Antenucci releases the ball 
into his path…a touch or two and lovely cross pulled back to just just beyond 
the penalty spot, where a swivelling Billy Sharp shins the thing into the 
bottom corner…2-1. Minutes later again and Ipswich are pressing and some 
unknown reason the previously steady
 Bamba, handles the ball. There’s a bit of delay…eventually the left footed 
penalty taker, hits the spot kick low and hard to Silvestri’s bottom right hand 
corner, which as good luck would have it, is exactly where the Italian had 
dived and he does well to palm the ball onto the post and out.

5 minutes left and its all a bit of huff and puff without any clear cut 
chances…and the 3 points are ours. Less than 20,000 there to see it in all its 
glory.

MOTM - hero/villan - Silvestri - for sheer entertainment factor.

Back 4 often at sea - Bellucci makes some dreadful challenges…Bamba was mainly 
steady…Cooper/Wootton not often where they should be

Byram and Taylor - are athletic, have decent control and good instincts to 
press forward with pace and thus are worth playing in the midfield…the problem 
is that we don’t have better full backs than them to cover…

Cook, Murphy  Mowatt - were all much of a muchness in the middle - some good 
stuff…still trying to play football the right way coupled with some decent 
defensive tracking (not so much Mowatt)…but they all go missing for spells and 
they all are guaranteed one or two howlers a game

Sharp - don’t rate him, doesn’t hold the ball up, can’t beat defenders in the 
air or on the ground…one decent shinner, but he was in the right place to get 
it.


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[LU] Ipswich

[Nick]

This was a dull match…a really dull match…for 70 minutes next to nothing of any 
note happened - Ipswich had an early goal disallowed, we had a decent penalty 
shout denied mid-way through the first half. Other than that zip, nada…Christ 
it was boring. The most fun I had was when my mate turned up at half time 
having missed the train he should have caught up from London. How we laughed.

Hardly surprising that we did’t set the world on fire, with our 4 CHalfs 
playing across the back - Cooper moved to LBack to allow the return of Bellucci 
- replacing the injured Austin - so Taylor moved to LMidfield -  meaning we now 
had both full backs in midfield.

Wootton and Cooper do not look comfortable at full back - both frequently out 
of position, caught tucking in too close to their CHalf…not doing enough going 
forward, and to be fair, not being good enough or comfortable enough on the 
ball going forward, so staying back is probably the best option for them, but 
it limits the team’s attacking options severely.

On 70, we got a free kick on our right-side of the box, 25 yards out. Mowatt 
stepped up and thumped a beauty right in by the post…it looks like their keeper 
flapped and missed as he feared a collision with the post. Many keepers would 
have kept it out. Joyous celebrations around the ground and that feel-good 
factor lasted precisely 1 and half minutes until Silvestri began his one-man 
campaign to entertain…somehow he let a something and nothing 20 yard grubber 
run under his body…1-1. Back down the other end, minutes later…the sub, 
Antenucci, controls a high ball well, turns his man, holds onto it for a second 
or two…Cook flashes by him down the right wing, Antenucci releases the ball 
into his path…a touch or two and lovely cross pulled back to just just beyond 
the penalty spot, where a swivelling Billy Sharp shins the thing into the 
bottom corner…2-1. Minutes later again and Ipswich are pressing and some 
unknown reason the previously steady Bamba, handles the ball. There’s a bit of 
delay…eventually the left footed penalty taker, hits the spot kick low and hard 
to Silvestri’s bottom right hand corner, which as good luck would have it, is 
exactly where the Italian had dived and he does well to palm the ball onto the 
post and out.

5 minutes left and its all a bit of huff and puff without any clear cut 
chances…and the 3 points are ours. Less than 20,000 there to see it in all its 
glory.

MOTM - hero/villan - Silvestri - for sheer entertainment factor.

Back 4 often at sea - Bellucci makes some dreadful challenges…Bamba was mainly 
steady…Cooper/Wootton not often where they should be

Byram and Taylor - are athletic, have decent control and good instincts to 
press forward with pace and thus are worth playing in the midfield…the problem 
is that we don’t have better full backs than them to cover…

Cook, Murphy  Mowatt - were all much of a muchness in the middle - some good 
stuff…still trying to play football the right way coupled with some decent 
defensive tracking (not so much Mowatt)…but they all go missing for spells and 
they all are guaranteed one or two howlers a game

Sharp - don’t rate him, doesn’t hold the ball up, can’t beat defenders in the 
air or on the ground…one decent shinner, but he was in the right place to get 
it.


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[LU] Ipswich

[Matt Anderson]

At charlton v Ipswich with a mate! 

Noel hunt to score the winner set up by Cameron Stewart???

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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Robert Heath]

I bet I'm the only bloke on this list who was at the game in Casablanca
against Morocco in about 1981..THAT was a crap
team..loads of lads with names beginning with
HHird, Hamson, plus a couple more...Butterworth, I
think..a way past-it Eddie Gray. Dreadful.


On 29 January 2014 10:41, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:

 I'm trying to think if I've ever seen a lower quality bunch if players
 turn out for Leeds and I can't say I have. The league 1 Leeds would beat
 this team hands down.

 Depressing.

 --

  On 29 Jan 2014, at 07:38, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
  Well I may have been looking forward to this pre match but after about
 10minutes I was looking forward to the final whistle, so poor was the fare
 on offer.
  2 poor teams, playing poorly does not make for a great spectacle
 especially in the rain.
  As expected we began with the same team as started against Leicester,
 the only change being Diouf for Varney, who did not even make the bench,
 giving credence to the Varney to Blackburn rumours.
  Against Leicester we started with passion and commitment and some flair
 creating chances galore early on - yesterday by half time our sum total was
 a shot by Austin that then keeper saved down to his right but which looked
 like it was going wide anyway, plus McCormack could only skim with the top
 of his head a too high cross. They were no better and also created little
 in a game littered with odd off sides - I say off because there were so
 many of them, mainly within a few yards of the halfway line and not
 appealed for by either team.
  The only bright point were a couple of nice triangles between Kebe,
 Byram and Diouf along our right touchline which came to nothing - not
 helped by the linesman who was 2 yards away but was the only one who did
 not see Byram 'taken out' when going for a one two.
  Diouf clearly has more class and skill than the rest of the team but I
 am not sure what actual use he is in the present line up. His lack of pace
 and lack of goal scoring threat makes him a luxury we do not need.
  The 20k crowd (up to you if that is good or not) greeted half time with
 muted applause and a few boos. These boos were really ramped up fairly
 early into the second half when a long range shot should have caused Kenny
 no worries but he somehow let it go through him and into the corner of the
 net - shocking mistake. This brought chants of 'we all love Leeds' from our
 new singers in the South Stand whereas the Kop responded with 'what the F
 is going on' for a few minutes before getting behind the team again. Things
 then improved slightly when Stewart who had got some real stick off the
 crowd a few minutes before for checking back and passing the ball to them
 ,when the chance was there for him to have a run at them, did just that and
 although he seemed to have run out of space and lost a bit of control in
 the box he was tripped and we got the nailed on but soft penatly
  Capt Ross hit it home and McD brought on Mowatt and Poleon - who were
 about to be brought on before the penalty
  This injection of youth and pace roused the crowd and Mowatts prompting
 passing and Poleons direct running did liven things up a bit but to say
 that the last half hour was entertaining would be stretching a bit
  At last the final whistle put us out of our misery and it was a point
 apiece - all either team desreved on a night that will soon be forgotten.
  The applause at the end was subdued and there were a few shouts of abuse
 but mainly fans were just apathetic - they are fed up to the back teeth
 with the take over nonsense and the lack of transfers despite all the big
 talk from Haig
  The five minutes or so between the goals showed that the fans are
 desperate to get behind the team and support them BUT that patience has
 worn out, 10 years of dross has made fans patience wafer thin
 
  Anyway roll on Saturday and 3 points :-)
 
  Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich addendum - Tom Lees

[Robert Heath]

How were the new lads?

Sounded on the radio like Stewart was patchy (but that included a couple of
good things) and Kebe was woeful.


On 29 January 2014 10:49, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Probably because I have tried to wipe it from my mind but I forget to
 mention the performance of Tom Lees - I have never seen a worse
 'footballer' than this lad. He is generally poor on the ball but yesterday
 he took it to new heights (lows?)
 Every time and I mean every, he had the ball at his feet he looked to turn
 back and pass it to Kenny or just lumped it forward. Given that we had no
 target man this was more stupid than normal.
 It got so bad and so predictable that fans were genuinely laughing towards
 the end of the game at his ineptitude. Yes he is an OK defender but you
 need more than that at this level and sorry Tom, you just have not got it
 A reflection on the game is the fact that for me, Warnock was man of the
 match !

 Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Jim Moran]

Luckily I was only 6 then...

On 29 January 2014 08:03, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote:
 I bet I'm the only bloke on this list who was at the game in Casablanca
 against Morocco in about 1981..THAT was a crap
 team..loads of lads with names beginning with HHird,
 Hamson, plus a couple more...Butterworth, I think..a way
 past-it Eddie Gray. Dreadful.


 On 29 January 2014 10:41, Jim Moran j...@jimmoran.co.uk wrote:

 I'm trying to think if I've ever seen a lower quality bunch if players
 turn out for Leeds and I can't say I have. The league 1 Leeds would beat
 this team hands down.

 Depressing.

 --

  On 29 Jan 2014, at 07:38, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
  Well I may have been looking forward to this pre match but after about
  10minutes I was looking forward to the final whistle, so poor was the fare
  on offer.
  2 poor teams, playing poorly does not make for a great spectacle
  especially in the rain.
  As expected we began with the same team as started against Leicester,
  the only change being Diouf for Varney, who did not even make the bench,
  giving credence to the Varney to Blackburn rumours.
  Against Leicester we started with passion and commitment and some flair
  creating chances galore early on - yesterday by half time our sum total was
  a shot by Austin that then keeper saved down to his right but which looked
  like it was going wide anyway, plus McCormack could only skim with the top
  of his head a too high cross. They were no better and also created little 
  in
  a game littered with odd off sides - I say off because there were so many 
  of
  them, mainly within a few yards of the halfway line and not appealed for by
  either team.
  The only bright point were a couple of nice triangles between Kebe,
  Byram and Diouf along our right touchline which came to nothing - not 
  helped
  by the linesman who was 2 yards away but was the only one who did not see
  Byram 'taken out' when going for a one two.
  Diouf clearly has more class and skill than the rest of the team but I
  am not sure what actual use he is in the present line up. His lack of pace
  and lack of goal scoring threat makes him a luxury we do not need.
  The 20k crowd (up to you if that is good or not) greeted half time with
  muted applause and a few boos. These boos were really ramped up fairly 
  early
  into the second half when a long range shot should have caused Kenny no
  worries but he somehow let it go through him and into the corner of the net
  - shocking mistake. This brought chants of 'we all love Leeds' from our new
  singers in the South Stand whereas the Kop responded with 'what the F is
  going on' for a few minutes before getting behind the team again. Things
  then improved slightly when Stewart who had got some real stick off the
  crowd a few minutes before for checking back and passing the ball to them
  ,when the chance was there for him to have a run at them, did just that and
  although he seemed to have run out of space and lost a bit of control in 
  the
  box he was tripped and we got the nailed on but soft penatly
  Capt Ross hit it home and McD brought on Mowatt and Poleon - who were
  about to be brought on before the penalty
  This injection of youth and pace roused the crowd and Mowatts prompting
  passing and Poleons direct running did liven things up a bit but to say 
  that
  the last half hour was entertaining would be stretching a bit
  At last the final whistle put us out of our misery and it was a point
  apiece - all either team desreved on a night that will soon be forgotten.
  The applause at the end was subdued and there were a few shouts of abuse
  but mainly fans were just apathetic - they are fed up to the back teeth 
  with
  the take over nonsense and the lack of transfers despite all the big talk
  from Haig
  The five minutes or so between the goals showed that the fans are
  desperate to get behind the team and support them BUT that patience has 
  worn
  out, 10 years of dross has made fans patience wafer thin
 
  Anyway roll on Saturday and 3 points :-)
 
  Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich addendum - Tom Lees

[nat...@sky.com]

Kebe looked OK early on linking up with Byram, Diouf and McCormack but overall 
was pretty annonymous and rubbish. One move summed it all up when he 'glided' 
past the first defender and then hit an awful cross into the first man. He is a 
bit of a bottler in 50/50s and offers very little defensively. Looks like he 
may have something about him but is yet to show it to any degree
Stewart was totally annonymous first half and did little second half until just 
before their goal when, as outlined in my report, he checked back and totally 
messed up when the fans were screaming at him to take the player on. He did 
learn from that and next time he had the ball he beat his man, cut inside and 
hit a shot across goal - never going in and would have been a belter if it had. 
This lifted him and got the crowd a bit on his side, and his next touch, he 
drove into the box, beat the first man and went past the second albeit losing 
control of the ball which was most likely going behind when he was fouled - 
pen, goal. That lifted him and he did try a few more runs - he was assisted by 
Mowatt, whose passing is always purposeful and invites runs rather than the 
crablike passing of Brown. Again may have something about him, but not much 
yet, and since we have him on a 3 year deal he will need to deliver quickly to 
stop himself becoming the fans
 scapegoat.
So maybe 4 out of 10 for Kebe and 5 for Stewart last night - a long way from 
the performances we need. A long way behind Gradel and Snoddy , our last 2 
decent wingers

Dave



On Wednesday, 29 January 2014, 8:05, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa wrote:
 
How were the new lads? 

Sounded on the radio like Stewart was patchy (but that included a couple of 
good things) and Kebe was woeful.




On 29 January 2014 10:49, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

Probably because I have tried to wipe it from my mind but I forget to mention 
the performance of Tom Lees - I have never seen a worse 'footballer' than this 
lad. He is generally poor on the ball but yesterday he took it to new heights 
(lows?)
Every time and I mean every, he had the ball at his feet he looked to turn 
back and pass it to Kenny or just lumped it forward. Given that we had no 
target man this was more stupid than normal.
It got so bad and so predictable that fans were genuinely laughing towards the 
end of the game at his ineptitude. Yes he is an OK defender but you need more 
than that at this level and sorry Tom, you just have not got it
A reflection on the game is the fact that for me, Warnock was man of the match 
!

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Re: [LU] Ipswich addendum - Tom Lees

[Robert Heath]

Now THAT is the kind of analysis that we exiles thrive on! Thanks so much
for taking the time to write all that Dave...hugely appreciated.


On 29 January 2014 13:22, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Kebe looked OK early on linking up with Byram, Diouf and McCormack but
 overall was pretty annonymous and rubbish. One move summed it all up when
 he 'glided' past the first defender and then hit an awful cross into the
 first man. He is a bit of a bottler in 50/50s and offers very little
 defensively. Looks like he may have something about him but is yet to show
 it to any degree
 Stewart was totally annonymous first half and did little second half until
 just before their goal when, as outlined in my report, he checked back and
 totally messed up when the fans were screaming at him to take the player
 on. He did learn from that and next time he had the ball he beat his man,
 cut inside and hit a shot across goal - never going in and would have been
 a belter if it had. This lifted him and got the crowd a bit on his side,
 and his next touch, he drove into the box, beat the first man and went past
 the second albeit losing control of the ball which was most likely going
 behind when he was fouled - pen, goal. That lifted him and he did try a few
 more runs - he was assisted by Mowatt, whose passing is always purposeful
 and invites runs rather than the crablike passing of Brown. Again may have
 something about him, but not much yet, and since we have him on a 3 year
 deal he will need to deliver quickly to stop himself becoming the fans
 scapegoat.
 So maybe 4 out of 10 for Kebe and 5 for Stewart last night - a long way
 from the performances we need. A long way behind Gradel and Snoddy , our
 last 2 decent wingers

 Dave


   On Wednesday, 29 January 2014, 8:05, Robert Heath rhe...@asd.edu.qa
 wrote:
  How were the new lads?

 Sounded on the radio like Stewart was patchy (but that included a couple
 of good things) and Kebe was woeful.


 On 29 January 2014 10:49, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:

 Probably because I have tried to wipe it from my mind but I forget to
 mention the performance of Tom Lees - I have never seen a worse
 'footballer' than this lad. He is generally poor on the ball but yesterday
 he took it to new heights (lows?)
 Every time and I mean every, he had the ball at his feet he looked to turn
 back and pass it to Kenny or just lumped it forward. Given that we had no
 target man this was more stupid than normal.
 It got so bad and so predictable that fans were genuinely laughing towards
 the end of the game at his ineptitude. Yes he is an OK defender but you
 need more than that at this level and sorry Tom, you just have not got it
 A reflection on the game is the fact that for me, Warnock was man of the
 match !

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Re: [LU] Ipswich addendum - Tom Lees

[Ted]

Got to say I agree with everything you say Dave.  Lees was just shocking
(as was Kebe)
I think our best two in central defence are Pearce (who is always steady
away) and Zaloukas (sp).  I feel a bit sorry for Zaloukas - one bad
(shocking!) game against Wednesday and he's dropped from sight, not even
making the bench.

I'm definitely not in the McD 'Out' camp but he doesn't seem to know what
he wants to do.  He's tried every combination of players and none have
worked out.  I was glad to see Diouf involved last night but in my mind, if
he is involved he should be coming on for the last 20 or so.

In his interview post-match last night he (McD) had a go at the board about
all the shenanigans going on.  He also said that Varney had asked him not
to be involved last night as he did not want to pick up an injury and
jeapordise his move, should it come off  WTF?  If his move doesn't come
off he should be told to fcuk off and not play for us again.

I'd have to start with Mowatt too - maybe at the expense of Austin?

Still, I don't think we're a million miles off - if we gel, and we have the
option of the wingers having Smith to aim for now and then, we might just
steady the ship.  McD did try reminding us that him (and the board) saw
this season as a building and steadying season before our 'push' (with his
team) next season.

Keep the faith!

Ted H
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[LU] Ipswich

[nat...@sky.com]

Well I may have been looking forward to this pre match but after about 
10minutes I was looking forward to the final whistle, so poor was the fare on 
offer.
2 poor teams, playing poorly does not make for a great spectacle especially in 
the rain.
As expected we began with the same team as started against Leicester, the only 
change being Diouf for Varney, who did not even make the bench, giving credence 
to the Varney to Blackburn rumours.
Against Leicester we started with passion and commitment and some flair 
creating chances galore early on - yesterday by half time our sum total was a 
shot by Austin that then keeper saved down to his right but which looked like 
it was going wide anyway, plus McCormack could only skim with the top of his 
head a too high cross. They were no better and also created little in a game 
littered with odd off sides - I say off because there were so many of them, 
mainly within a few yards of the halfway line and not appealed for by either 
team.
The only bright point were a couple of nice triangles between Kebe, Byram and 
Diouf along our right touchline which came to nothing - not helped by the 
linesman who was 2 yards away but was the only one who did not see Byram 'taken 
out' when going for a one two.
Diouf clearly has more class and skill than the rest of the team but I am not 
sure what actual use he is in the present line up. His lack of pace and lack of 
goal scoring threat makes him a luxury we do not need.
The 20k crowd (up to you if that is good or not) greeted half time with muted 
applause and a few boos. These boos were really ramped up fairly early into the 
second half when a long range shot should have caused Kenny no worries but he 
somehow let it go through him and into the corner of the net - shocking 
mistake. This brought chants of 'we all love Leeds' from our new singers in the 
South Stand whereas the Kop responded with 'what the F is going on' for a few 
minutes before getting behind the team again. Things then improved slightly 
when Stewart who had got some real stick off the crowd a few minutes before for 
checking back and passing the ball to them ,when the chance was there for him 
to have a run at them, did just that and although he seemed to have run out of 
space and lost a bit of control in the box he was tripped and we got the nailed 
on but soft penatly
Capt Ross hit it home and McD brought on Mowatt and Poleon - who were about to 
be brought on before the penalty
This injection of youth and pace roused the crowd and Mowatts prompting passing 
and Poleons direct running did liven things up a bit but to say that the last 
half hour was entertaining would be stretching a bit
At last the final whistle put us out of our misery and it was a point apiece - 
all either team desreved on a night that will soon be forgotten.
The applause at the end was subdued and there were a few shouts of abuse but 
mainly fans were just apathetic - they are fed up to the back teeth with the 
take over nonsense and the lack of transfers despite all the big talk from Haig
The five minutes or so between the goals showed that the fans are desperate to 
get behind the team and support them BUT that patience has worn out, 10 years 
of dross has made fans patience wafer thin

Anyway roll on Saturday and 3 points :-)

Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Jim Moran]

I'm trying to think if I've ever seen a lower quality bunch if players turn out 
for Leeds and I can't say I have. The league 1 Leeds would beat this team hands 
down. 

Depressing. 

--

 On 29 Jan 2014, at 07:38, nat...@sky.com nat...@sky.com wrote:
 
 Well I may have been looking forward to this pre match but after about 
 10minutes I was looking forward to the final whistle, so poor was the fare on 
 offer.
 2 poor teams, playing poorly does not make for a great spectacle especially 
 in the rain.
 As expected we began with the same team as started against Leicester, the 
 only change being Diouf for Varney, who did not even make the bench, giving 
 credence to the Varney to Blackburn rumours.
 Against Leicester we started with passion and commitment and some flair 
 creating chances galore early on - yesterday by half time our sum total was a 
 shot by Austin that then keeper saved down to his right but which looked like 
 it was going wide anyway, plus McCormack could only skim with the top of his 
 head a too high cross. They were no better and also created little in a game 
 littered with odd off sides - I say off because there were so many of them, 
 mainly within a few yards of the halfway line and not appealed for by either 
 team.
 The only bright point were a couple of nice triangles between Kebe, Byram and 
 Diouf along our right touchline which came to nothing - not helped by the 
 linesman who was 2 yards away but was the only one who did not see Byram 
 'taken out' when going for a one two.
 Diouf clearly has more class and skill than the rest of the team but I am not 
 sure what actual use he is in the present line up. His lack of pace and lack 
 of goal scoring threat makes him a luxury we do not need.
 The 20k crowd (up to you if that is good or not) greeted half time with muted 
 applause and a few boos. These boos were really ramped up fairly early into 
 the second half when a long range shot should have caused Kenny no worries 
 but he somehow let it go through him and into the corner of the net - 
 shocking mistake. This brought chants of 'we all love Leeds' from our new 
 singers in the South Stand whereas the Kop responded with 'what the F is 
 going on' for a few minutes before getting behind the team again. Things then 
 improved slightly when Stewart who had got some real stick off the crowd a 
 few minutes before for checking back and passing the ball to them ,when the 
 chance was there for him to have a run at them, did just that and although he 
 seemed to have run out of space and lost a bit of control in the box he was 
 tripped and we got the nailed on but soft penatly
 Capt Ross hit it home and McD brought on Mowatt and Poleon - who were about 
 to be brought on before the penalty
 This injection of youth and pace roused the crowd and Mowatts prompting 
 passing and Poleons direct running did liven things up a bit but to say that 
 the last half hour was entertaining would be stretching a bit
 At last the final whistle put us out of our misery and it was a point apiece 
 - all either team desreved on a night that will soon be forgotten.
 The applause at the end was subdued and there were a few shouts of abuse but 
 mainly fans were just apathetic - they are fed up to the back teeth with the 
 take over nonsense and the lack of transfers despite all the big talk from 
 Haig
 The five minutes or so between the goals showed that the fans are desperate 
 to get behind the team and support them BUT that patience has worn out, 10 
 years of dross has made fans patience wafer thin
 
 Anyway roll on Saturday and 3 points :-)
 
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[LU] Ipswich addendum - Tom Lees

[nat...@sky.com]

Probably because I have tried to wipe it from my mind but I forget to mention 
the performance of Tom Lees - I have never seen a worse 'footballer' than this 
lad. He is generally poor on the ball but yesterday he took it to new heights 
(lows?)
Every time and I mean every, he had the ball at his feet he looked to turn back 
and pass it to Kenny or just lumped it forward. Given that we had no target man 
this was more stupid than normal.
It got so bad and so predictable that fans were genuinely laughing towards the 
end of the game at his ineptitude. Yes he is an OK defender but you need more 
than that at this level and sorry Tom, you just have not got it
A reflection on the game is the fact that for me, Warnock was man of the match !

Dave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich last 30.

[Matt Anderson]

If you have access to the hotbird satellite (as I'm sure most Dutch/german 
based people do!?!?!) they show championship games and other things like French 
league on Al Jazeera +3 channel.

You need a viaaccess cam (card holder) for your receiver then an Al Jazeera 
card which costs about £100 from eBay.

They have just removed the premier league from hotbird at the premier leagues 
request so that's only receivable if you have a 2.5m or larger and nilesat. 
(They show every single premier league game)

Matt


Sent from my iPad

On 25 Aug 2013, at 21:59, Guy Thornton guy.thorn...@inter.nl.net wrote:

 Got to see most of the game courtesy of Al Jazerra. Meant no commentary of 
 course, at least 
 undersandable, but then with with another 15 odd screens in thepub showing 
 other games - 
 everything from rugby league, union, aussie rules and footie (hadn't realized 
 most 15.00 ko 
 premiership games are broadcast) - wouldn't have heard anything anyway.
 
 Yes, first half hour was mainly Ipswich and could have been three goals down 
 but wheren't picked it 
 up and improved. Not going to try and give a detailed report, others already 
 have, but generally I 
 didn't find it that bad, certainlly better than some of the reports from 
 Leicester and other games, and 
 it gives me some hope for this season.
 
 
 
 On 25 Aug 2013 at 0:44, John Lee wrote:
 
 Looked like a game of two halves on telly. Some terrible defending and 
 tactics first half; more 
 balanced and more threat  in the second. I'll take as much luck as we can get 
 until we're safe from 
 the drop. How often have we moaned about unlucky Leeds/last minute goals 
 conceded - nice that 
 the boot is on the other foot.
  
 Not sure about McCormack's shoot from anywhere policy - he's no Gerrard - but 
 as long as they 
 keep deflecting in he'll keep taking pot-shots.
  
 5th place, a manager who doesn't sound like an arse, a manager who knows how 
 (and will) change 
 tactics - it'll do for now!
 
 
 
 From: Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com
 To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2013, 17:48
 Subject: [LU] Ipswich last 30.
 
 
 No comments yet? Are we all too flabbergasted after the dire early match
 reports?
 
 Away - I got to see the last 30 minswhich is as much of Leeds I've seen in
 a League match for donkey's years.
 
 I didn't see the goals but otherwise I was reasonably impressed. Leeds were
 trying to play possession football (a goal up obviously) and Ipswich
 weren't good enough to expose the weaknesses that are surely there. The
 fact is that not all Leeds players are comfortable on the ball. McCormack
 stands out, Austin looks confident (sometimes misplaced) and Peltier knows
 what he has to do when he gets the ball but the rest didn't look happy
 having to pass the ball about.
 
 I was surprised by Warnock who played like he was frightened to death by
 the ball. I had expected him to be much more comfortable.
 
 Austin played some classy and assured 30 yard passes but screwed up his 5
 yard ones. I wonder if he's got a concentration problem?
 
 Finally Poleon, when he came on, had some good runs but went nowhere.
 Partly I think because it never occurred to him that he's allowed to shoot
 when he gets sight of the goal. He cut inside several times on the edge of
 the box but then didn't know what to do - the Ipswich defenders sussed him
 out straight away and could afford to stand off him a bit when he was
 central, something they didn't do at all when he was wide.
 
 Damian MOT
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Re: [LU] Ipswich last 30.

[Guy Thornton]

Can't speak for the Germans but most dutch (based) persons don't have their own 
satellite - with 
virtually all the country being on cable a lot of places, including Amsterdam, 
get iffy on folk putting up 
their own satellites. Some areas, where a number of ethinic turks, etc live you 
do see satellites on 
balconys but it's frowned on and there are purges to remove them. The Amsterdam 
skyline does look  
a lot cleaner since the removal of ariels, satellites, etc.

That said we do have access as there's enough cafes and pubs showing games who 
have the 
necessary for it which is how I got watch Saturday. And as said they also had 
all the premier league 
games on other screen plus footie from other countries and various other sports.

Incidentally it's not just Al Jazerra for Championship footbball now. Fox has 
just started here in the 
Netherlands and they have got the rights for showing live Championship games 
here.

guy

On 26 Aug 2013 at 11:07, Matt Anderson wrote:

 If you have access to the hotbird satellite (as I'm sure most
 Dutch/german based people do!?!?!) they show championship games and
 other things like French league on Al Jazeera +3 channel.  

 You need a viaaccess cam (card holder) for your receiver then an Al
 Jazeera card which costs about £100 from eBay. 

 They have just removed the premier league from hotbird at the premier
 leagues request so that's only receivable if you have a 2.5m or larger
 and nilesat. (They show every single premier league game) 

 Matt 


Sent from my iPad

On 25 Aug 2013, at 21:59, Guy Thornton guy.thorn...@inter.nl.net wrote:

 Got to see most of the game courtesy of Al Jazerra. Meant no commentary of 
 course, at least 
 undersandable, but then with with another 15 odd screens in thepub showing 
 other games - 
 everything from rugby league, union, aussie rules and footie (hadn't realized 
 most 15.00 ko 
 premiership games are broadcast) - wouldn't have heard anything anyway.
 
 Yes, first half hour was mainly Ipswich and could have been three goals down 
 but wheren't picked it 
 up and improved. Not going to try and give a detailed report, others already 
 have, but generally I 
 didn't find it that bad, certainlly better than some of the reports from 
 Leicester and other games, and 
 it gives me some hope for this season.
 
 
 
 On 25 Aug 2013 at 0:44, John Lee wrote:
 
 Looked like a game of two halves on telly. Some terrible defending and 
 tactics first half; more 
 balanced and more threat  in the second. I'll take as much luck as we can get 
 until we're safe from 
 the drop. How often have we moaned about unlucky Leeds/last minute goals 
 conceded - nice that 
 the boot is on the other foot.
  
 Not sure about McCormack's shoot from anywhere policy - he's no Gerrard - but 
 as long as they 
 keep deflecting in he'll keep taking pot-shots.
  
 5th place, a manager who doesn't sound like an arse, a manager who knows how 
 (and will) change 
 tactics - it'll do for now!
 
 
 
 From: Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com
 To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2013, 17:48
 Subject: [LU] Ipswich last 30.
 
 
 No comments yet? Are we all too flabbergasted after the dire early match
 reports?
 
 Away - I got to see the last 30 minswhich is as much of Leeds I've seen in
 a League match for donkey's years.
 
 I didn't see the goals but otherwise I was reasonably impressed. Leeds were
 trying to play possession football (a goal up obviously) and Ipswich
 weren't good enough to expose the weaknesses that are surely there. The
 fact is that not all Leeds players are comfortable on the ball. McCormack
 stands out, Austin looks confident (sometimes misplaced) and Peltier knows
 what he has to do when he gets the ball but the rest didn't look happy
 having to pass the ball about.
 
 I was surprised by Warnock who played like he was frightened to death by
 the ball. I had expected him to be much more comfortable.
 
 Austin played some classy and assured 30 yard passes but screwed up his 5
 yard ones. I wonder if he's got a concentration problem?
 
 Finally Poleon, when he came on, had some good runs but went nowhere.
 Partly I think because it never occurred to him that he's allowed to shoot
 when he gets sight of the goal. He cut inside several times on the edge of
 the box but then didn't know what to do - the Ipswich defenders sussed him
 out straight away and could afford to stand off him a bit when he was
 central, something they didn't do at all when he was wide.
 
 Damian MOT
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Re: [LU] Ipswich last 30.

[Guy Thornton]

Got to see most of the game courtesy of Al Jazerra. Meant no commentary of 
course, at least 
undersandable, but then with with another 15 odd screens in thepub showing 
other games - 
everything from rugby league, union, aussie rules and footie (hadn't realized 
most 15.00 ko 
premiership games are broadcast) - wouldn't have heard anything anyway.

Yes, first half hour was mainly Ipswich and could have been three goals down 
but wheren't picked it 
up and improved. Not going to try and give a detailed report, others already 
have, but generally I 
didn't find it that bad, certainlly better than some of the reports from 
Leicester and other games, and 
it gives me some hope for this season.



On 25 Aug 2013 at 0:44, John Lee wrote:

Looked like a game of two halves on telly. Some terrible defending and tactics 
first half; more 
balanced and more threat  in the second. I'll take as much luck as we can get 
until we're safe from 
the drop. How often have we moaned about unlucky Leeds/last minute goals 
conceded - nice that 
the boot is on the other foot.
 
Not sure about McCormack's shoot from anywhere policy - he's no Gerrard - but 
as long as they 
keep deflecting in he'll keep taking pot-shots.
 
5th place, a manager who doesn't sound like an arse, a manager who knows how 
(and will) change 
tactics - it'll do for now!
 


 From: Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com
To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2013, 17:48
Subject: [LU] Ipswich last 30.
  

No comments yet? Are we all too flabbergasted after the dire early match
reports?

Away - I got to see the last 30 minswhich is as much of Leeds I've seen in
a League match for donkey's years.

I didn't see the goals but otherwise I was reasonably impressed. Leeds were
trying to play possession football (a goal up obviously) and Ipswich
weren't good enough to expose the weaknesses that are surely there. The
fact is that not all Leeds players are comfortable on the ball. McCormack
stands out, Austin looks confident (sometimes misplaced) and Peltier knows
what he has to do when he gets the ball but the rest didn't look happy
having to pass the ball about.

I was surprised by Warnock who played like he was frightened to death by
the ball. I had expected him to be much more comfortable.

Austin played some classy and assured 30 yard passes but screwed up his 5
yard ones. I wonder if he's got a concentration problem?

Finally Poleon, when he came on, had some good runs but went nowhere.
Partly I think because it never occurred to him that he's allowed to shoot
when he gets sight of the goal. He cut inside several times on the edge of
the box but then didn't know what to do - the Ipswich defenders sussed him
out straight away and could afford to stand off him a bit when he was
central, something they didn't do at all when he was wide.

Damian MOT
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[LU] Ipswich last 30.

[Damian Walsh]

No comments yet? Are we all too flabbergasted after the dire early match
reports?

Away - I got to see the last 30 minswhich is as much of Leeds I've seen in
a League match for donkey's years.

I didn't see the goals but otherwise I was reasonably impressed. Leeds were
trying to play possession football (a goal up obviously) and Ipswich
weren't good enough to expose the weaknesses that are surely there. The
fact is that not all Leeds players are comfortable on the ball. McCormack
stands out, Austin looks confident (sometimes misplaced) and Peltier knows
what he has to do when he gets the ball but the rest didn't look happy
having to pass the ball about.

I was surprised by Warnock who played like he was frightened to death by
the ball. I had expected him to be much more comfortable.

Austin played some classy and assured 30 yard passes but screwed up his 5
yard ones. I wonder if he's got a concentration problem?

Finally Poleon, when he came on, had some good runs but went nowhere.
Partly I think because it never occurred to him that he's allowed to shoot
when he gets sight of the goal. He cut inside several times on the edge of
the box but then didn't know what to do - the Ipswich defenders sussed him
out straight away and could afford to stand off him a bit when he was
central, something they didn't do at all when he was wide.

Damian MOT
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Re: [LU] Ipswich last 30.

[Nicholas Armit]

Internet chair perspective on a bad feed:

First 30 minutes were dire, they were all over us. Peltier was totally absent 
and the midfield looked very disorganized. Then we got a lucky break and good 
finish by Varney.

Second half missed the second goal as was making tea. Any good? Sounded like a 
deflection. Better passing and more control and I am not sure if that is why 
Ipswich were less threatening or they played above themselves first half-hour. 
However, to be honest they still looked the classier team and we were doing 
some last ditch defending for at least a good 20 minutes soon after 60 minutes. 
Then they seemed to run out of steam and we were comfortable I thought the last 
10 or so.

I definitely think the win flattered us. Amazingly seeing I am in the US I have 
seen the first three games live and have to be honest I see us as a 
hard-working grafting team with very little class or pace. After praising 
Austin last week I think this week someone should tell him to calm down a bit 
and take his time. So many first time hoofed balls from defence when he had 
acres of space and loads of time. 

Still 8 points from 12 so wtf do I know (and no need to answer that.)

Nick



 From: Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com
To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:48 PM
Subject: [LU] Ipswich last 30.
 

No comments yet? Are we all too flabbergasted after the dire early match
reports?

Away - I got to see the last 30 minswhich is as much of Leeds I've seen in
a League match for donkey's years.

I didn't see the goals but otherwise I was reasonably impressed. Leeds were
trying to play possession football (a goal up obviously) and Ipswich
weren't good enough to expose the weaknesses that are surely there. The
fact is that not all Leeds players are comfortable on the ball. McCormack
stands out, Austin looks confident (sometimes misplaced) and Peltier knows
what he has to do when he gets the ball but the rest didn't look happy
having to pass the ball about.

I was surprised by Warnock who played like he was frightened to death by
the ball. I had expected him to be much more comfortable.

Austin played some classy and assured 30 yard passes but screwed up his 5
yard ones. I wonder if he's got a concentration problem?

Finally Poleon, when he came on, had some good runs but went nowhere.
Partly I think because it never occurred to him that he's allowed to shoot
when he gets sight of the goal. He cut inside several times on the edge of
the box but then didn't know what to do - the Ipswich defenders sussed him
out straight away and could afford to stand off him a bit when he was
central, something they didn't do at all when he was wide.

Damian MOT
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Re: [LU] Ipswich last 30.

[John Lee]

Looked like a game of two halves on telly. Some terrible defending and tactics 
first half; more balanced and more threat  in the second. I'll take as much 
luck as we can get until we're safe from the drop. How often have we moaned 
about unlucky Leeds/last minute goals conceded - nice that the boot is on the 
other foot.
 
Not sure about McCormack's shoot from anywhere policy - he's no Gerrard - but 
as long as they keep deflecting in he'll keep taking pot-shots.
 
5th place, a manager who doesn't sound like an arse, a manager who knows how 
(and will) change tactics - it'll do for now!
 


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To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2013, 17:48
Subject: [LU] Ipswich last 30.
  

No comments yet? Are we all too flabbergasted after the dire early match
reports?

Away - I got to see the last 30 minswhich is as much of Leeds I've seen in
a League match for donkey's years.

I didn't see the goals but otherwise I was reasonably impressed. Leeds were
trying to play possession football (a goal up obviously) and Ipswich
weren't good enough to expose the weaknesses that are surely there. The
fact is that not all Leeds players are comfortable on the ball. McCormack
stands out, Austin looks confident (sometimes misplaced) and Peltier knows
what he has to do when he gets the ball but the rest didn't look happy
having to pass the ball about.

I was surprised by Warnock who played like he was frightened to death by
the ball. I had expected him to be much more comfortable.

Austin played some classy and assured 30 yard passes but screwed up his 5
yard ones. I wonder if he's got a concentration problem?

Finally Poleon, when he came on, had some good runs but went nowhere.
Partly I think because it never occurred to him that he's allowed to shoot
when he gets sight of the goal. He cut inside several times on the edge of
the box but then didn't know what to do - the Ipswich defenders sussed him
out straight away and could afford to stand off him a bit when he was
central, something they didn't do at all when he was wide.

Damian MOT
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[LU] Ipswich game on TV

[Guy Bonello]

Ipswich - Leeds is the 3pm ko Championship game being screened around the 
world this Saturday , so should be some streams. knocking about 


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Re: [LU] Ipswich game on TV

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Sado Masochism.
:(

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 Ipswich - Leeds is the 3pm ko Championship game being screened around the
 world this Saturday , so should be some streams. knocking about
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[LU] Ipswich

[Richard Walker]

As I said yesterday good result , poor performance. I keep hearing people 
saying Ipswich were really poor but what does that say about us when they 
completely bossed the second half for long periods. I think our team selection 
is wrong and our midfield flatters to deceive.

On the positive side of things I thought we started brightly and in general our 
back four did their job, especially Byram who had another good game playing out 
of position at right back. It's like watching Gerrard playing right back for 
Liverpool, you know he would do a decent job but he's got so much more to 
offer. Get him in midfield Colin. 

For the first 20 minutes we passed the ball well and took them apart. Diouf was 
at the centre of everything and when he plays like this he is a class above at 
this level. I just wish he had another yard of pace because then he would have 
the impact of a Strachan.

Jerome Thomas looked dangerous every time he got the ball. I think Colin asked 
him to move centrally at times ( probably compensating for the lack of pace and 
ability to run of our main centre forward) - he caused them a lot of problems.

We should have been 2 up but Becchio missed a sitter. It was a peach of a cross 
and my theory is that Becchio had time to think about it being unmarked 5 yards 
out, he just had to  direct it into the net, but this requires ability and he 
ain't got none. If anything he's an instinct player and his best play is when 
he doesn't have to think about things.

But after that 20 minute spell Ipswich looked the better team and we played 
like the away side. Paddy Kenny made a couple of decent saves but in general 
although Ipswich had a lot of possession they were pretty toothless up front 
and in the end DJ Campbell , who has been scoring for fun recently, was dragged 
off. On came Chopra who immediately looked dangerous. 

I can't think of much else to say really , it was a poor game, really poor 
atmosphere and for me, after a bright start,  a really poor performance. So 
onto the team selection 

Why is Peltier playing a left back ?
Why is Peltier our captain and is this why he is being accommodated at left 
back ?

Our midfield was poor yesterday. Norris, a player who I think has done pretty 
well, just couldn't get in the game yesterday. He looked like a stumpy, 
overweight Sunday league player. Tonge, worked hard but was outplayed by 
players who supposedly are not at his level.

Scores:

Kenny -7 his kicking was poor but when asked he saved us.

Peltier - 5 looks uncomfortable at left back. Not captain material. 

Byram - 9. Pace, composure, skill, acceleration.A real talent. Get him in 
midfield.

Tate - 7. Solid, got caught on a ball a few times.

Lees - 7. I thought he defended pretty well.

Norris - 2 really poor.

Green - 6 good goal but didn't figure much. Not sure he is a right winger.

Tonge - 5 worked hard but second best.

Thomas - 7 started lively and did well for Green's goal. Looks a bit fragile at 
times

Diouf - 8 great first half, tired second.

Becchio - 1. Can't really remember a single positive contribution. Yes he won a 
few headers and flicked them on to nobody, he got caught in possession a few 
times, he fell over a few times, he used his arms / hands to control the ball 
(again) but didn't get away with it (again) , he bumped into his team mate as 
he dallied around the pitch and he did manage to get one header on target 
second half which their keeper made a meal of. He can't run, he waddles, he is 
an excuse of a footballer. 

Subs - thought Macca looked lively. 

I'd play Byram in midfield, drop Tonge, put Peltier at right back, bring Drury 
or White at left back. I'd try and sell Becchio in January. Maybe there's some 
idiot of a manager who might pay some money for him. 
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[LU] Ipswich (inc a link to goals)

[David Nattan]

Well another 3 points and 4 wins in the last 5 games. A rare clean sheet as
well. So those of us who went have to be happy I suppose. The sparse, sub
20k, crowd and the paltry turn out from Ipswich made it all a very low key
affair and it is hard to be too over enthusiastic about it. Having said
that we were deserved winners against a team in a decent run of form -
albeit they were mainly very poor.
We brought Diouf in in place of Ross and Thomas in in place of Hall and
these 2 were our best players. Green also continued to impress.We bossed
the first half and it was worrying that we went in only 1-0 up. This was
due to some desperate defending by them including a good save from a shot
by Diouf and a goal line clearance after a strike by Norris. They had a
couple of breaks but never really threatened. A series of corners ended
with us opening the scoring. At first we thought the keeper had made a real
mess of a header by Lees but the replay on the big screen showed that
Thomas, stood just in front of the keeper, had got a little flick to divert
it past him. We continued to control the game and then came the Becchio
moment - I am not sure whether the bet between Rich W and RIch N is on or
not, and I was a bit worried that I was going to be the arbiter of whether
Becchio had a chance - well there can be no doubt whatsoever that he had a
chance today A real gilt edged one at that. A free header from inside the 6
yard box with the keeper nowhere to be seen. It was one of those that you
genuinely think that you could have scored from that position but somehow
Becchio managed to put it high and wide - it really was a bad miss.
We went in at half time worried that we would rue that missed chance and
the other half chances we had created, and our fears were almost warranted
as Ipswich came out much the stronger in the second half and took the game
to us. Thankfully they looked a poor team and did not carve open any real
chances. Their momentum fizzled out and we began to control the game again.
Then our best move of the game finished it off for us. They surrendered the
ball easily to Diouf in the middle of the park, he had both Norris and
Thomas overlapping down the left hand side and played it out wide. The ball
went to Norris who then shovelled it on to Thomas who took it forward,
looked up and then picked out Green powering into the box, he met it first
time with a crisp , well taken shot into the corner. A great goal and one
that deservedly won us the game. We closed up shop a bit with Brown
replacing Thomas not long after Diouf had gone off for McCormack. Without
our best 2 players the game just sort of petered out. Ipswich had more of
the game after the second goal and had a couple of shots that never really
threatened and we hung on for the points.
An instantly forgettable game in front of a sparse and uninterested crowd
but the players did their bit - 3 points and a clean sheet, it is hard to
ask for more really.
I am still not sure about Tonge ( very in and out)  or Norris (not sure
what it is he does really) but Thomas looks quality on the ball and Byram
continues to impress. Also at the back Lees and Tate looked solid enough
against a really powder puff attack.
We will face better opposition but we did all that could be asked of us and
we stay within touching distance of the play offs. The new owners need to
invest wisely in January and somehow need to bring back the 'feelgood
factor' around the place - maybe a good performance in front of a full
house on Wednesday will help lift the spirits ?

Dave
PS goals from today
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvypd2_leeds-2-0-ipswich_sport#.UMzhDaya8ms
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[David Brennan]

 Message: 15
 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:06:12 + (GMT)
 From: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Ipswich
 
 A ridiculously bad goal from their point of view. Then a ball down the
 middle , their sub keeper comes out and just seems to miss it leaving
 Macca to roll it into an empty net. Then Becchio who came on for the
 ineffective Forsell and slotted in a 3rd to win the game. Ipswich had
 abandoned all defensive duties by then however Becchio took his goal
 really well which surprised me because I thought he'd forgotten what
 his feet were for. His first touch in open play though I can report has
 not changed. He'll get picked again next match unfortunately.?

I was right behind the South Stand goal and Macca was able to score as the 
Ipswich keeper hesitated when coming out, which gave Macca just enough time to 
get to the ball first. If the keeper hadn't hesitated he'd have got there first.

It pains me to say this, but I thought we were much livelier after Becchio came 
on.  Maybe just a coincidence :-/  Like Rich says though he did take his goal 
really well, best goal of the day, really the only proper goal scored all day 
you might say.

 What a moaning git I am but anyone who was there yesterday knows that
 the atmosphere and the general feeling about the place is desperate and
 something has to give.?

The atmosphere was very subdued.  The biggest cheer in the first half came when 
one wild speculative shot from Ipswich ended up on the back row of the South 
Stand.  We did laugh.

I can only concur with the rest of the posters to this list that Saturday's 
performance was an absolute bag of shite.  I can't believe that we can play 
that badly, win, and be one point off the playoffs.  Is this league really that 
shit?

I took my brothers to the match on Saturday as Christmas presents.  Should have 
stuck with socks.

DRB
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Someone said that Becchio's celebration after scoring was 'strange'. Anyone
care to explain?




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On 23 January 2012 11:44, David Brennan d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

  Message: 15
  Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:06:12 + (GMT)
  From: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
  To: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org
  Subject: [LU] Ipswich
 
  A ridiculously bad goal from their point of view. Then a ball down the
  middle , their sub keeper comes out and just seems to miss it leaving
  Macca to roll it into an empty net. Then Becchio who came on for the
  ineffective Forsell and slotted in a 3rd to win the game. Ipswich had
  abandoned all defensive duties by then however Becchio took his goal
  really well which surprised me because I thought he'd forgotten what
  his feet were for. His first touch in open play though I can report has
  not changed. He'll get picked again next match unfortunately.?

 I was right behind the South Stand goal and Macca was able to score as the
 Ipswich keeper hesitated when coming out, which gave Macca just enough time
 to get to the ball first. If the keeper hadn't hesitated he'd have got
 there first.

 It pains me to say this, but I thought we were much livelier after Becchio
 came on.  Maybe just a coincidence :-/  Like Rich says though he did take
 his goal really well, best goal of the day, really the only proper goal
 scored all day you might say.

  What a moaning git I am but anyone who was there yesterday knows that
  the atmosphere and the general feeling about the place is desperate and
  something has to give.?

 The atmosphere was very subdued.  The biggest cheer in the first half came
 when one wild speculative shot from Ipswich ended up on the back row of the
 South Stand.  We did laugh.

 I can only concur with the rest of the posters to this list that
 Saturday's performance was an absolute bag of shite.  I can't believe that
 we can play that badly, win, and be one point off the playoffs.  Is this
 league really that shit?

 I took my brothers to the match on Saturday as Christmas presents.  Should
 have stuck with socks.

 DRB
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Kneale, Andy]

Someone said that Becchio's celebration after scoring was 'strange'. Anyone
care to explain?

Argentinian robot dance?

Gaffer








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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[David Brennan]

He went over to the touch line near the corner, turned round to face the 
players then sort of wiggled his hips and beckoned people to come to him with 
his hands.

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Subject: Re: [LU] Ipswich

Someone said that Becchio's celebration after scoring was 'strange'. Anyone 
care to explain?




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On 23 January 2012 11:44, David Brennan 
d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.ukmailto:d.r.bren...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:
 Message: 15
 Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012tel:2012 17:06:12 + (GMT)
 From: Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.ukmailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk
 To: leedslist@gn.apc.orgmailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org 
 leedslist@gn.apc.orgmailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Subject: [LU] Ipswich

 A ridiculously bad goal from their point of view. Then a ball down the
 middle , their sub keeper comes out and just seems to miss it leaving
 Macca to roll it into an empty net. Then Becchio who came on for the
 ineffective Forsell and slotted in a 3rd to win the game. Ipswich had
 abandoned all defensive duties by then however Becchio took his goal
 really well which surprised me because I thought he'd forgotten what
 his feet were for. His first touch in open play though I can report has
 not changed. He'll get picked again next match unfortunately.?

I was right behind the South Stand goal and Macca was able to score as the 
Ipswich keeper hesitated when coming out, which gave Macca just enough time to 
get to the ball first. If the keeper hadn't hesitated he'd have got there first.

It pains me to say this, but I thought we were much livelier after Becchio came 
on.  Maybe just a coincidence :-/  Like Rich says though he did take his goal 
really well, best goal of the day, really the only proper goal scored all day 
you might say.

 What a moaning git I am but anyone who was there yesterday knows that
 the atmosphere and the general feeling about the place is desperate and
 something has to give.?

The atmosphere was very subdued.  The biggest cheer in the first half came when 
one wild speculative shot from Ipswich ended up on the back row of the South 
Stand.  We did laugh.

I can only concur with the rest of the posters to this list that Saturday's 
performance was an absolute bag of shite.  I can't believe that we can play 
that badly, win, and be one point off the playoffs.  Is this league really that 
shit?

I took my brothers to the match on Saturday as Christmas presents.  Should have 
stuck with socks.

DRB
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[N H]

Yup my thoughts exactly when i saw the video clips..especially at the end as 
others closed there were definitely some pelvic thrusts on display and just a 
hint of a woody there too... Each to his own, I guess

 


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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Ipswich
  

Looked to me like he was trying to f@ck a sheep, not that I'd know what that 
looks like mind.

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 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:40:13 +0100
 Subject: Re: [LU] Ipswich
 
 It's a celebration all Brazilian players (especially the AC Milan ones) 
 seem to be doing at the moment, after being made famous by Neymar.
 
 It's from a popular Brazilian song called ahi se eu te pego (or something 
 like that)
 
 why an Argie would want to copy a Brazilian, though?

                          
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

LOL 

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On 23 Jan 2012, at 20:52, Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com wrote:

 Looked to me like he was trying to f@ck a sheep, not that I'd know what that 
 looks like mind.
 
 Is that because you've always been more of a doer than a watcher?
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Ian Murray]

*delete*

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 LOL 
 
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 Looked to me like he was trying to f@ck a sheep, not that I'd know what 
 that looks like mind.
 
 Is that because you've always been more of a doer than a watcher?
 
 
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[LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

 Bates out !


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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the club 
want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't it ?  and 
Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, Grayson and 
Lorimer are all lying to us fans.

Sent from my iPad

On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:

 Well I really cannot remember a victory that felt so empty as todays. Given 
 that we were a goal down  with 15min to go a victory should have us all 
 buzzing and to turn 0-1 down to a 3-1 win should be the stuff of dreams. As 
 it was I , and many others , left the ground totally deflated after an awful 
 performance in an awful match. My mate refused to celebrate our second  it 
 was such a gift and so undeserved,The first half was terrible football and 
 both sides were very poor indeed for the most part. We managed to go the 
 whole 45 minutes without a single shot or chance worthy of the name. They 
 were just as bad but did seem, at least , to be putting some effort and 
 commitment into the game whereas we were just going through the motions,, On 
 the way to the ground we were trying to convince ourselves that the 
 re-introduction of Delph meant that we were on the way to getting a dream 
 midfield , but it never turned out like that. Delph was mainly off the pace
 and did very little, Clayton continued his invisible man impersonation, 
 Townsend showed that his debut game may be a flash in the pan, Only Snoddy 
 seemed up for it. Up front Forsell showed why he has struggled to get into 
 the team and McCormack hardly got a touch.Thankfully they were almost just as 
 bad and were restricted to one long range effort that hit the woodwork. Then 
 disaster struck, a short corner was played to a lad on the edge of the box 
 and his daisycutter found its way through to Lonergan, no danger there until 
 he suddenly turned in Rachukba and let it slip through his fingers - what a 
 mistake, what a soft goal , a shame since Lonergan our new captain has had an 
 impressive season so far,The quiet subdued crowd fell into a total stupor. So 
 -0-1 at half time, Surely SG would make changes and sort things out at half 
 time - well for 25mins things were just as bad even though White and Becchio 
 were introduced on the hour.Then McCarthy seemed to
 decide, having said how much he loved it at Leeds, that he would give us a 
 hand, He twice kicked it into touch under no pressure and then a hopeful punt 
 forward was headed backwards by the defender, he had  not realised where 
 McCarthy was and the ball was on its way goalwards until McCarthy dived full 
 stretch to keep it out. The only problem was that he was way out of the area 
 and so left the ref no choice - a straight red. For the 3rd game in a row we 
 were playing against 10men. This should have been the cue for us to up the 
 game and really take it to them. Instead we relied on 2 awful pieces of 
 defending (v similar to Burnley game) First the centre half gave the ball to 
 Snoddy in front of an empty goal 1-1 then a  mix up between the keeper and 
 defender allowed Ross to stroll forward and walk the ball home. The Ipswich 
 fans must have been tearing their hair out.Ipswich by this time had totally 
 collapsed and after 3 ridiculous goals we then put the
 icing on the cake (such as it was) with a well taken goal by Becchio who 
 struck it well from a tight angle,So a 3 1 win and the fans trooped home 
 almost embarassed at getting 3 points.As for Bates there were a number of 
 Bates Out chants, and a bit of humour with an adaptation of the Colin 
 Bell,Man City song (number 1 is Colin Bell, number 2 is Colin Bell and so on) 
 - our version was'  number one -- here on loan, number 2 here on loan, number 
 3 here on loan ' etc. Not factually accurate (before Mark H points it out) 
 but they did have a point. Then it was 2 more players to sell before we buy 
 the hotel 
 So all in all a very disappointing victory, once again against ten men, and a 
 victory that does little to paper over the cracks and will not encourage 
 anyone who was there to fill in their ST renewal formsBut I suppose 3 points 
 is 3 points and we now have 10 days until our next game and a debut for 
 Robbie Rogers and anyone else we may bring inDave
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

Are you joking? 

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On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the club 
 want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't it ?  
 and Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, Grayson 
 and Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

Nope - all over Waccoe

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Jan 2012, at 10:28, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are you joking? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the club 
 want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't it ?  
 and Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, Grayson 
 and Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

Lorimer heckled and as a result threatened to stop doing qa sessions.  Give it 
up Peter.

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On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:05, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Nope - all over Waccoe
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 10:28, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are you joking? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the club 
 want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't it ?  
 and Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, Grayson 
 and Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

 big time in Pavillion
January 21 2012 at 2:40 PM  hertswhite   (Login hertswhite)
Andrew Haigh RETWEET 

3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
#lufc-lorimer losing it in the members lounge! 
Retweeted by Andrew Haigh 

@liamlufcmarsh 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
Lorimer struggling. Ruined his legacy #batesout 

@matty_shay 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
At least Ben Parker is speaking the truth in here which we haven't heard for 7 
years? #batesout 

@LUFC_GerC93 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
ben parker has come out and said howson wants to stay but the club want the 
money morelies from bates! #lufc #7yearsoflies #batesout 

@lds120188: Parker just said Howson wants to stay at #lufc not got to #Ncfc he 
said the club said they wanted the money not Howson 

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:09, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Lorimer heckled and as a result threatened to stop doing qa sessions.  Give 
 it up Peter.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:05, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Nope - all over Waccoe
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 10:28, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are you joking? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the 
 club want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't 
 it ?  and Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, 
 Grayson and Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com wrote:
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

So that's Parker out too. 
I cannot believe that the management is so fucked up. 

Sent from my iPhone. 
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Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 22 Jan 2012, at 13:25, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 
  big time in Pavillion
 January 21 2012 at 2:40 PMhertswhite   (Login hertswhite)
 Andrew Haigh RETWEET 
 
 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 #lufc-lorimer losing it in the members lounge! 
 Retweeted by Andrew Haigh 
 
 @liamlufcmarsh 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 Lorimer struggling. Ruined his legacy #batesout 
 
 @matty_shay 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 At least Ben Parker is speaking the truth in here which we haven't heard for 
 7 years? #batesout 
 
 @LUFC_GerC93 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 ben parker has come out and said howson wants to stay but the club want the 
 money morelies from bates! #lufc #7yearsoflies #batesout 
 
 @lds120188: Parker just said Howson wants to stay at #lufc not got to #Ncfc 
 he said the club said they wanted the money not Howson 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:09, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Lorimer heckled and as a result threatened to stop doing qa sessions.  Give 
 it up Peter.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:05, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Nope - all over Waccoe
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 10:28, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are you joking? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the 
 club want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't 
 it ?  and Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, 
 Grayson and Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

Well if its true .. But at this moment it seems a bit more likely than Howson 
asking for 25k fantasy. Hopefully Howson will make a stand and reject the move 
but that would be a brave decision given the state of the club.

And yes we won 3-1 but unlike Burnley where we turned it around we were gifted 
the win. Delph isnt fit. Everything was shit yesterday (apart from the beer) 
and I don't often say that after a win. Like Ian I will not be attending any 
more matches until this mess is resolved.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:32, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com wrote:

 So that's Parker out too. 
 I cannot believe that the management is so fucked up. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 13:25, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 
  big time in Pavillion
 January 21 2012 at 2:40 PM   hertswhite   (Login hertswhite)
 Andrew Haigh RETWEET 
 
 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 #lufc-lorimer losing it in the members lounge! 
 Retweeted by Andrew Haigh 
 
 @liamlufcmarsh 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 Lorimer struggling. Ruined his legacy #batesout 
 
 @matty_shay 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 At least Ben Parker is speaking the truth in here which we haven't heard for 
 7 years? #batesout 
 
 @LUFC_GerC93 3m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open 
 ben parker has come out and said howson wants to stay but the club want the 
 money morelies from bates! #lufc #7yearsoflies #batesout 
 
 @lds120188: Parker just said Howson wants to stay at #lufc not got to #Ncfc 
 he said the club said they wanted the money not Howson 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:09, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Lorimer heckled and as a result threatened to stop doing qa sessions.  
 Give it up Peter.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:05, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Nope - all over Waccoe
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 10:28, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Are you joking? 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:04, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the 
 club want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things 
 doesn't it ?  and Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe 
 that Bates, Grayson and Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 21 Jan 2012, at 22:33, DAVID NATTAN david.nat...@btinternet.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Paul Cundell]

 Ben Parker pre-match stating that Howson doesn't want to leave and the
club
 want the money rather than player puts a new slant on things doesn't it ?
and
 Lorimer snatching the mic off him. I firmly believe that Bates, Grayson
and
 Lorimer are all lying to us fans.
 

I know the Bates apologists will say I'm just paranoid but I'm starting to
doubt anything that is said by anyone in Bates' employ.
Unfortunately that includes Grayson, Lorimer, Gray, Kirwin and Dews.
I was told that Gray, during the match commentary, reckoned that Howson
won't be missed because he hadn't had a good season and wasn't really that
good. 
I also heard that Gray and Kirwin blustered about how an £11.5m player
budget was a lot of money and we should all be grateful to Uncle Ken.
I didn't hear the commentary so can anyone clarify?



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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Chris Briggs]

If you are a ST holder Bates has already had the opportunity to bend you over 
brokeback mountain style. He doesn't care if you don't go as the cash was 
trousered last year.

If ST holders were to attend the game, not spend any money and sit there in 
silence it is likely to have a huge impact. I would imagine that the media 
would have a field day reporting on a silent crowd.

As for the non-ST holders (of which I am one) stopping going offers the best 
impact.


On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:39, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Well if its true .. But at this moment it seems a bit more likely than Howson 
 asking for 25k fantasy. Hopefully Howson will make a stand and reject the 
 move but that would be a brave decision given the state of the club.
 
 And yes we won 3-1 but unlike Burnley where we turned it around we were 
 gifted the win. Delph isnt fit. Everything was shit yesterday (apart from the 
 beer) and I don't often say that after a win. Like Ian I will not be 
 attending any more matches until this mess is resolved.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Richard Walker]

Yes I know that but I still don't feel like going whilst bates lies.

Sent from my iPhone

On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:53, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 If you are a ST holder Bates has already had the opportunity to bend you over 
 brokeback mountain style. He doesn't care if you don't go as the cash was 
 trousered last year.
 
 If ST holders were to attend the game, not spend any money and sit there in 
 silence it is likely to have a huge impact. I would imagine that the media 
 would have a field day reporting on a silent crowd.
 
 As for the non-ST holders (of which I am one) stopping going offers the best 
 impact.
 
 
 On 22 Jan 2012, at 11:39, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 Well if its true .. But at this moment it seems a bit more likely than 
 Howson asking for 25k fantasy. Hopefully Howson will make a stand and reject 
 the move but that would be a brave decision given the state of the club.
 
 And yes we won 3-1 but unlike Burnley where we turned it around we were 
 gifted the win. Delph isnt fit. Everything was shit yesterday (apart from 
 the beer) and I don't often say that after a win. Like Ian I will not be 
 attending any more matches until this mess is resolved.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[DAVID NATTAN]

My only comment  to RIch, Paul and anyone else who is talking about not going 
again or are on about not renewing STs - that is your decision and up to you 
BUT if you are going to do this as a 'protest' then for goodness sake write 
/email the club and let them know a. That it is a protest  and b. What your 
grievance(s) are.
If fans just stop going the club do not know if it is in protest or just that 
you may, for instance, have lost your job, moved away etc
A protest is only any use if the people who  count know that you are protesting 
and what you are protesting about
(only time will tell of course if the protests will be of any use whatever fans 
say and do)
Dave
--- On Sun, 22/1/12, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Yes I know that but I still don't feel like going whilst bates lies.

. Like Ian I will not be attending any more matches until this mess is resolved.
 

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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[N H]

Given the poor/useless quality of the radio stream on LUTV, for the 
match, yesterday I did not hear every thing and in fact gave up entirely trying 
to listen not long after half time; however I am and avid listener from out 
here in the colonies each week and find that Eddie usually speaks a lot of 
truth and sense. While he chooses his words prettu carefully it isn't 
difficult, usually to interpret that he is not happy with a lot that is 
happening on and off the field.
 
I did not hear any discussoin of the budget yesterday but, one very telling 
comment, that did not mince words was when he said, That 11 out there, now 
will no get ya promotion!
 
Eddie has always been a huge Howson fan, extolling the talents and worth of the 
lad since he was just a kid so, I would find it difficult to believe that he 
would have, in all good conscience said anything positive, for the team about 
Howson leaving. .
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[LU] Ipswich

[Richard Walker]

Bates Out ! 

Sang with more passion than ever before at the kick off yesterday, shame the 
players didn't show the same passion. I quite liked the look of the midfield - 
Clayton, Delph, Townsend and Snodgrass ... surely too good for your average 
Championship team, but it never worked. We couldn't string 2 passes together. 
Delph looked off the pace and Clayton just didn't get involved as if he's 
sulking cos his partner from earlier in the season has gone. The back four were 
awful. How Grayson can drop Aidy White in favour of Danny Pugh at left back is 
beyond me. This is a case of I've spent money on bringing in a player so I 
will accommodate him at all costs even if it means I have to drop our best 
player. Danny Pugh can't defend, has no pace and just looks like a clogger. How 
can we progress with players like this ?

Let's not forget Ipswich - they were just as bad and the game as a spectacle 
must go down as one of the worst for a while and that's saying something. Then 
Ipswich get a corner at the South Stand , they take it short, their player 
moves inside and takes a speculative shot from outside the box and Lonergan 
makes a complete arse of it. He looked like he was complaining about the lack 
of cover for the shot but Christ, he should have saved that. I must confess I 
retired to the bar at this point and didn't even watch the remainder on the 
screen. Glad I did because I was told nothing happened apart from a load of 
boos and  more Bates Out chants as the players left the park. 

Second half I didn't return immediately but did watch a bit and it just didn't 
improve. Some reporting that we were better and upped the tempo in the second 
half, thinking about it I'm not sure we did to be honest, if we did it was 
marginal, Ipswich had a few attempts that were close and it was a period where 
we could have lost the game. Then Ipswich decided to gift us the game. First 
McCarthy did his old team mates a favour by catching the ball outside the box 
and getting himself sent off. He got the biggest round of applause of the day - 
'You're Leeds and you know you are' - ha ha. 

Ipswich then decided to defend deeply and invited pressure. I often wonder why 
teams do this because even with 10 men I think the could have got another and 
avoided the situations that created our goals. Our first was pure comedy with 
their player giving it to Snoddy on a plate. A ridiculously bad goal from their 
point of view. Then a ball down the middle , their sub keeper comes out and 
just seems to miss it leaving Macca to roll it into an empty net. Then Becchio 
who came on for the ineffective Forsell and slotted in a 3rd to win the game. 
Ipswich had abandoned all defensive duties by then however Becchio took his 
goal really well which surprised me because I thought he'd forgotten what his 
feet were for. His first touch in open play though I can report has not 
changed. He'll get picked again next match unfortunately. 

This game really papered over the cracks as Dave said, but Ipswich will go 
nowhere this season if they carry on giving away games like this. Guy behind me 
said he wished we'd lost this game, I could never say that but I know what he 
means.

I'd give most of the team nothing out of 10 for this. Snodgrass , Macca and 
Becchio can have 1 for their goals . AND WE WON 3-1 !!! 

What a moaning git I am but anyone who was there yesterday knows that the 
atmosphere and the general feeling about the place is desperate and something 
has to give. 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich report

[Nicholas Armit]

From what I heard there was nothing positive and no criticism of Howson. The 
broadcasters were as critical as Gray.



 From: Nigel Sykes ni...@sykesonline.com
To: 'LEEDSLIST' leedslist@gn.apc.org 
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LU] Ipswich report
 
 one very telling comment, that did not mince words was when he said, 
 That 11 out there, now will no get ya promotion!

The commentators were certainly as dismayed as the fans.  Another telling
comment came at half time when they asked the 3rd guy (can't remember his
name) what he would change in the 2nd half.  All 11 he said, dryly...

Nigel

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[LU] Ipswich report

[DAVID NATTAN]

Well I really cannot remember a victory that felt so empty as todays. Given 
that we were a goal down  with 15min to go a victory should have us all buzzing 
and to turn 0-1 down to a 3-1 win should be the stuff of dreams. As it was I , 
and many others , left the ground totally deflated after an awful performance 
in an awful match. My mate refused to celebrate our second  it was such a gift 
and so undeserved,The first half was terrible football and both sides were very 
poor indeed for the most part. We managed to go the whole 45 minutes without a 
single shot or chance worthy of the name. They were just as bad but did seem, 
at least , to be putting some effort and commitment into the game whereas we 
were just going through the motions,, On the way to the ground we were trying 
to convince ourselves that the re-introduction of Delph meant that we were on 
the way to getting a dream midfield , but it never turned out like that. Delph 
was mainly off the pace
 and did very little, Clayton continued his invisible man impersonation, 
Townsend showed that his debut game may be a flash in the pan, Only Snoddy 
seemed up for it. Up front Forsell showed why he has struggled to get into the 
team and McCormack hardly got a touch.Thankfully they were almost just as bad 
and were restricted to one long range effort that hit the woodwork. Then 
disaster struck, a short corner was played to a lad on the edge of the box and 
his daisycutter found its way through to Lonergan, no danger there until he 
suddenly turned in Rachukba and let it slip through his fingers - what a 
mistake, what a soft goal , a shame since Lonergan our new captain has had an 
impressive season so far,The quiet subdued crowd fell into a total stupor. So 
-0-1 at half time, Surely SG would make changes and sort things out at half 
time - well for 25mins things were just as bad even though White and Becchio 
were introduced on the hour.Then McCarthy seemed to
 decide, having said how much he loved it at Leeds, that he would give us a 
hand, He twice kicked it into touch under no pressure and then a hopeful punt 
forward was headed backwards by the defender, he had  not realised where 
McCarthy was and the ball was on its way goalwards until McCarthy dived full 
stretch to keep it out. The only problem was that he was way out of the area 
and so left the ref no choice - a straight red. For the 3rd game in a row we 
were playing against 10men. This should have been the cue for us to up the game 
and really take it to them. Instead we relied on 2 awful pieces of defending (v 
similar to Burnley game) First the centre half gave the ball to Snoddy in front 
of an empty goal 1-1 then a  mix up between the keeper and defender allowed 
Ross to stroll forward and walk the ball home. The Ipswich fans must have been 
tearing their hair out.Ipswich by this time had totally collapsed and after 3 
ridiculous goals we then put the
 icing on the cake (such as it was) with a well taken goal by Becchio who 
struck it well from a tight angle,So a 3 1 win and the fans trooped home almost 
embarassed at getting 3 points.As for Bates there were a number of Bates Out 
chants, and a bit of humour with an adaptation of the Colin Bell,Man City song 
(number 1 is Colin Bell, number 2 is Colin Bell and so on) - our version was'  
number one -- here on loan, number 2 here on loan, number 3 here on loan ' etc. 
Not factually accurate (before Mark H points it out) but they did have a point. 
Then it was 2 more players to sell before we buy the hotel 
So all in all a very disappointing victory, once again against ten men, and a 
victory that does little to paper over the cracks and will not encourage anyone 
who was there to fill in their ST renewal formsBut I suppose 3 points is 3 
points and we now have 10 days until our next game and a debut for Robbie 
Rogers and anyone else we may bring inDave
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[LU] Ipswich , Delph and Rog Rogers

[DAVID DOWDEN]

Well with all this dm and glooom predicated  ,I recon we will have a 
stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off 
place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100%  ,we will also soon have  
another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger . SG stated 
he will make a  big difference for us. (hopefully). LUFC OK



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Re: [LU] Ipswich , Delph and Rog Rogers

[Tim Leslie]

 Well with all this dm and glooom predicated  ,I recon we will have a
 stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off
 place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100%  ,we will also soon
 have  another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger .
 SG stated he will make a  big difference for us. (hopefully). LUFC OK

SG WOULD say he'll make a big difference for us! He'll hardly say Oh
he'll be average.
I am so despondant with it all at the moment that, ironically, I now
expect us to get promoted :-)

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Re: [LU] Ipswich , Delph and Rog Rogers

[Richard Naef]

Well with all this dm and glooom predicated  ,I recon we will have a
stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off
place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100%  ,we will also soon
have  another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger

or Delph will trip over his bootlace and break his ankle and Roy Rogers will
turn out to be Eddie Lewis in disguise.



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Re: [LU] Ipswich , Delph and Rog Rogers

[Ian Murray]

I loved Eddie! Goals away at Stoke and home to Preston (free kick) spring to 
mind. Why did Blackwell get backed by the MS?

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Jan 2012, at 13:22, Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk 
wrote:

 Well with all this dm and glooom predicated  ,I recon we will have a
 stunning win on Saturday and everything will be fine, back for play off
 place/// , Hopefully Delph if playing will give 100%  ,we will also soon
 have  another USA International Robbin Roy Rogers and his mate Trigger
 
 or Delph will trip over his bootlace and break his ankle and Roy Rogers will
 turn out to be Eddie Lewis in disguise.
 
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Damian Walsh]

You mean support another team?

Damian

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Dr. Michael Benjamin.
beden...@gmail.comwrote:


 Time to ditch  them all.


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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

No
Ditch the entire management team. 

Sent from my iPhone. 
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Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 28 Aug 2011, at 09:05, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:

 You mean support another team?
 
 Damian
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Dr. Michael Benjamin.
 beden...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 Time to ditch  them all.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Ian Murray]

Ha - sounds a bit radical to me! The only way we'll get rid of Bates is through 
either a billionaire, government intervention in football governance or his 
death. 

We have to keep Grayson.

Ian

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Aug 2011, at 08:58, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com wrote:

 No
 Ditch the entire management team. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 28 Aug 2011, at 09:05, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You mean support another team?
 
 Damian
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Dr. Michael Benjamin.
 beden...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 Time to ditch  them all.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Wayne]

We have to keep grayson..unless we can lure Gus poyet back ;)
Regards
Wayne

Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

Ha - sounds a bit radical to me! The only way we'll get rid of Bates is 
through either a billionaire, government intervention in football governance 
or his death. 

We have to keep Grayson.

Ian

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Aug 2011, at 08:58, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com wrote:

 No
 Ditch the entire management team. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 28 Aug 2011, at 09:05, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 You mean support another team?
 
 Damian
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Dr. Michael Benjamin.
 beden...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 Time to ditch  them all.
 
 
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[LU] Ipswich

[N If]

sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9

Dr M

How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?

Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.


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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Mark Humphries]

And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the international
break.

Fucking referees.

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of N If
Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
To: leedslist
Subject: [LU]  Ipswich

sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9

Dr M

How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?

Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.


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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Mark Humphries]

Oh, and Birmingham have 2 games in hand, and Watford 1, if both win 1 game
we will be 22nd.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Humphries [mailto:mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
Sent: 27 August 2011 16:57
To: 'N If'; 'leedslist'
Subject: RE: [LU]  Ipswich

And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the international
break.

Fucking referees.

-Original Message-
From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
Behalf Of N If
Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
To: leedslist
Subject: [LU]  Ipswich

sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9

Dr M

How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?

Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.


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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

We have an issue of being a  cheap drama bunch of losers. As soon as we were 
one up I said watch how they'll find a drama charged lunatic way of losing and 
saying we could have only if. 
Bates is a robbing baron and should be strung up.  I  fed up of being fibbed 
and fobbed off 
We are a fuvking joke. 

Sent from my iPhone. 
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Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 27 Aug 2011, at 18:53, N If mister@gmail.com wrote:

 sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
 hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
 loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9
 
 Dr M
 
 How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
 Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Richard Walker]

Very, very sickening especially when Jason bastard Scotland comes on and scores 
with his first touch. 

Not to worry though Becchio will be back soon  FFS where's the beer ! What 
a pisser

Sent from my iPad

On 27 Aug 2011, at 16:53, N If mister@gmail.com wrote:

 sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
 hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
 loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9
 
 Dr M
 
 How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
 Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr. Michael Benjamin.]

'After ten games you can see the league'. 
After half of them we see a malignant Stoat ripping us off. Grayson who thinks 
that you improve defending by getting sent off. 
Our defense was shit. What did we do exactly? 
Absolutely nothing. Sorry taught them to get sent off. What better way to 
improve defending set pieces? How many ficking badges did Grayson get for that 
stroke of genius? 
God almighty. The team I  am the Stoat of had a bad season. We sat down. 
Outlined our weaknesses and found solutions. No bloody talking and posing. 
What did these bloody morons do all summer? Yammering and lying. 
Time to ditch  them all. 


Sent from my iPhone. 
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On 27 Aug 2011, at 18:57, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk 
wrote:

 Oh, and Birmingham have 2 games in hand, and Watford 1, if both win 1 game
 we will be 22nd.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Humphries [mailto:mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
 Sent: 27 August 2011 16:57
 To: 'N If'; 'leedslist'
 Subject: RE: [LU]  Ipswich
 
 And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the international
 break.
 
 Fucking referees.
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
 To: leedslist
 Subject: [LU]  Ipswich
 
 sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
 hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
 loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9
 
 Dr M
 
 How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
 Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Richard Walker]

I've got to give it to you mate your 
Malignant stoat mails are consistent and very funny.

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Aug 2011, at 17:16, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com wrote:

 'After ten games you can see the league'. 
 After half of them we see a malignant Stoat ripping us off. Grayson who 
 thinks that you improve defending by getting sent off. 
 Our defense was shit. What did we do exactly? 
 Absolutely nothing. Sorry taught them to get sent off. What better way to 
 improve defending set pieces? How many ficking badges did Grayson get for 
 that stroke of genius? 
 God almighty. The team I  am the Stoat of had a bad season. We sat down. 
 Outlined our weaknesses and found solutions. No bloody talking and posing. 
 What did these bloody morons do all summer? Yammering and lying. 
 Time to ditch  them all. 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone. 
 Dr Michael Benjamin. 
 Community  Psychiatrist. 
 
 On 27 Aug 2011, at 18:57, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Oh, and Birmingham have 2 games in hand, and Watford 1, if both win 1 game
 we will be 22nd.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Humphries [mailto:mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
 Sent: 27 August 2011 16:57
 To: 'N If'; 'leedslist'
 Subject: RE: [LU]  Ipswich
 
 And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the international
 break.
 
 Fucking referees.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
 Behalf Of N If
 Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
 To: leedslist
 Subject: [LU]  Ipswich
 
 sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
 hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
 loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9
 
 Dr M
 
 How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
 Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
 Bugger:((
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Not the MS's fault ?
Was isn't obvious we need to buy some defenders?
Did we?
Whose fault is that?
Is Grayson another Wenger? Having money thrown at him but refusing to use
it?

As for the Stoat talking about foreplay -- is regularly buggering us up
counted?
Or is that merely an oversight as his senses one by one elude him?

With all this Global Warming lets hope that  his island home is visited by
the next Irene. Let the old bugger foreplay her.





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On 26 August 2011 20:25, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I've got to give it to you mate your
 Malignant stoat mails are consistent and very funny.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 27 Aug 2011, at 17:16, Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  'After ten games you can see the league'.
  After half of them we see a malignant Stoat ripping us off. Grayson who
 thinks that you improve defending by getting sent off.
  Our defense was shit. What did we do exactly?
  Absolutely nothing. Sorry taught them to get sent off. What better way to
 improve defending set pieces? How many ficking badges did Grayson get for
 that stroke of genius?
  God almighty. The team I  am the Stoat of had a bad season. We sat down.
 Outlined our weaknesses and found solutions. No bloody talking and posing.
  What did these bloody morons do all summer? Yammering and lying.
  Time to ditch  them all.
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone.
  Dr Michael Benjamin.
  Community  Psychiatrist.
 
  On 27 Aug 2011, at 18:57, Mark Humphries 
 mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 
  Oh, and Birmingham have 2 games in hand, and Watford 1, if both win 1
 game
  we will be 22nd.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Humphries [mailto:mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk]
  Sent: 27 August 2011 16:57
  To: 'N If'; 'leedslist'
  Subject: RE: [LU]  Ipswich
 
  And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the
 international
  break.
 
  Fucking referees.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On
  Behalf Of N If
  Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
  To: leedslist
  Subject: [LU]  Ipswich
 
  sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning
 by a
  hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
  loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with
 9
 
  Dr M
 
  How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
  Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
  Bugger:((
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[tim . whelan]

Sickening watching. As you say, we totally dominated the first half and Ipswich 
looked woeful. As far as I could see of the sending off (from right up in the 
corner at the opposite end of the ground) the Ipswich player pushed White over 
and then fell over his body, so definately not a deliberate foul, but I'll have 
to see it again on the Football League show.
 
Straight away Grayson sent O'Brien on for Mc.Cormack, while O'Dowd went to left 
back and Keogh was left as the lone striker, so we lost the formation that has 
served us so well in the last couple of games. We tried to fall back on defence 
for the rest of the game, with inevitable results, though the second goal was a 
flukey deflection that sent the ball looping over Lonergan into the net. 
 
We still could have snatched something if we'd made better use of our 
breakaways towards the end. Gradel fell over in a vain attempt to win a 
penalty, and right at the death sent over an awful cross rather than pulling it 
back to an unmarked Nunez, which led to the two of them squaring up to each 
other just after the final whistle.
 
A very frustrating day all round.
 
Tim W.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, N If mister@gmail.com wrote:


From: N If mister@gmail.com
Subject: [LU]  Ipswich
To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 16:53


sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9

Dr M

How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?

Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.


Bugger:((
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Nicholas Armit]

Sounded to me like we were excellent until the sending off. Jewell admitted 
they were lucky to win. We were very good against West Ham and supposedly very 
good today until reduced to 10. While not a natural optimist myself it seems 
there are a lot of positives to take from this last week or so.



From: Dr. Michael Benjamin.  beden...@gmail.com
To: Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk
Cc: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org; N If mister@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [LU]  Ipswich

'After ten games you can see the league'. 
After half of them we see a malignant Stoat ripping us off. Grayson who thinks 
that you improve defending by getting sent off. 
Our defense was shit. What did we do exactly? 
Absolutely nothing. Sorry taught them to get sent off. What better way to 
improve defending set pieces? How many ficking badges did Grayson get for that 
stroke of genius? 
God almighty. The team I  am the Stoat of had a bad season. We sat down. 
Outlined our weaknesses and found solutions. No bloody talking and posing. 
What did these bloody morons do all summer? Yammering and lying. 
Time to ditch  them all. 


Sent from my iPhone. 
Dr Michael Benjamin. 
Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 27 Aug 2011, at 18:57, Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk 
wrote:

 Oh, and Birmingham have 2 games in hand, and Watford 1, if both win 1 game
 we will be 22nd.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Humphries [mailto:mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk] 
 Sent: 27 August 2011 16:57
 To: 'N If'; 'leedslist'
 Subject: RE: [LU]  Ipswich
 
 And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the international
 break.
 
 Fucking referees.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On
 Behalf Of N If
 Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
 To: leedslist
 Subject: [LU]  Ipswich
 
 sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by a
 hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
 loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with 9
 
 Dr M
 
 How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
 Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
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Re: [LU] Ipswich

[Dr Michael Benjamin]

Jesus wept
Talk about half full.
We have played five games:
One  we didn't show up for
Two that we should have won but got players sent off
One where we missed a penalty and scored an og of farcical proportions.
That is 4 games out of five. And is pure lunacy. It is also symptomatic of
the complete farce that has overcome us since that malignant Stoat arrived.
I wont repeat the complete twaddle and bullshit we have been fed about all
things monetary.
Can anyone name a team that is a bigger farce than us?
Can anyone remember ever a Leeds team producing such pathetic excuses? 'We
could have -- but'. Since when did that cut it at Leeds?
We used to take pride in winning.
Since when was our club so shamelessly ripped off by a guy who thinks
himself above the law and yet is beneath all contempt?
'We are so proud'?
Of what exactly?



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On 27 August 2011 23:45, Nicholas Armit arm...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sounded to me like we were excellent until the sending off. Jewell admitted
 they were lucky to win. We were very good against West Ham and supposedly
 very good today until reduced to 10. While not a natural optimist myself it
 seems there are a lot of positives to take from this last week or so.

 --
 *From:* Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com
 *To:* Mark Humphries mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk
 *Cc:* leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org; N If mister@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:16 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LU]  Ipswich

 'After ten games you can see the league'.
 After half of them we see a malignant Stoat ripping us off. Grayson who
 thinks that you improve defending by getting sent off.
 Our defense was shit. What did we do exactly?
 Absolutely nothing. Sorry taught them to get sent off. What better way to
 improve defending set pieces? How many ficking badges did Grayson get for
 that stroke of genius?
 God almighty. The team I  am the Stoat of had a bad season. We sat down.
 Outlined our weaknesses and found solutions. No bloody talking and posing.
 What did these bloody morons do all summer? Yammering and lying.
 Time to ditch  them all.


 Sent from my iPhone.
 Dr Michael Benjamin.
 Community  Psychiatrist.

 On 27 Aug 2011, at 18:57, Mark Humphries 
 mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

  Oh, and Birmingham have 2 games in hand, and Watford 1, if both win 1
 game
  we will be 22nd.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Mark Humphries [mailto:mark.humphr...@blueyonder.co.uk]
  Sent: 27 August 2011 16:57
  To: 'N If'; 'leedslist'
  Subject: RE: [LU]  Ipswich
 
  And now instead of being 10th, we are now 20th going into the
 international
  break.
 
  Fucking referees.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org]
 On
  Behalf Of N If
  Sent: 27 August 2011 16:53
  To: leedslist
  Subject: [LU]  Ipswich
 
  sickening listening.  we were all over them and should've been winning by
 a
  hatful until the red card which led to the inevitable equaliser and late
  loser :(  Long since the days of brilliant rearguards eg vs chelsea with
 9
 
  Dr M
 
  How many red cards is that now ? Three in five games. What hapenned?
 
  Maybe as Ian said..we have issues with defending.
 
 
  Bugger:((
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