Re: Templating Solutions

2001-06-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/06 17:21 +0100 Roger Burton West said: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 04:36:00PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > The main reason I prefer H::T to T::T is that H::T templates can be > given to Dreamweaver monkeys to edit without my having to worry that > they'll screw them up. That is an impo

Re: YAPC::Europe (Ignore this request)

2001-06-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/06 14:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > > Ok, ignore this request now. Also thanks to Simon Wilcox. for helping me out > here. > > I also believe others are flying on this flight, so it looks like we have > the official flight for London.pm ;-) and thanks to Jouke we can claim > to have a

Re: London.pm - FAQ for web site (was books or something).

2001-06-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/06 14:55 +0100 Leo Lapworth said: > Well, as has been muttered about I am redoing the London.pm.org website. > > And yes it DOES need a faq, I have the start of one, but would very much > love someone else to finish it off. > > So, If anyone is up for it give me a yell and I'll email yo

Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-12 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/06 21:38 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Chris Benson wrote: > > > Didn't ukonline.co.uk complain about trademark infringement a while back? > > > > Is gateway.gov.uk the result? and is there any possible trademark confusion > > with this address? > > > 'hello .. is

Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 08/06 11:54 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > > pah! .. tis written in the scripture ... 'let he who hath one eye be > blessed' .. clearly the 'one eye' is a reference to the one 'i' in vi .. > its *obvious* innit ... I shall found my entire religion on this shadowy > fact wriiten by our lord him

Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 08/06 11:35 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > On Fri, 08 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > calling wordpad an editor is as laughable as calling vi an editor ;-) > > arrghh .. burn the heretic! ... speak brother, for the truth will out .. > have you been using [x{0,1]]emacs again ... ? and th

Re: Religion (was Re: M$ SQueaLServer)

2001-06-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 08/06 10:11 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > > Well here are some reasons why i prefer UNIX to Windows * for servers, > they are pretty much personal reasons and i'm sure not everyone agrees with > them. I'd also add that is something hardwary does go wrong and the box stops running, windows

Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-07 Thread Struan Donald
* at 07/06 04:26 -0700 Paul Makepeace said: > This is dated from beginning of last year, and mutt is saying that's > about 13,700 messages (gasp!). Note that some people > (dcross) appear more than once. Not that a) they > necessarily need it b) have any hope, ever, of catching Greg... this is

Re: [Announce] Hackspoitation film fest

2001-05-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 24/05 23:18 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > > p.s. at the risk of raising the heckles of BlackStar, does anyone > know the URL of the company based in the channel islands (or isle > of mann) that sell american dvds to the UK at the time they > are released in the US? 247 or something? http://w

Re: Happy Happy Joy Joy!

2001-05-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/05 12:54 -0400 David H. Adler said: > On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 08:20:47AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > > I finally received my copy of TPJ in the mail yesterday. And there was much > > rejoicing :) > > If it makes anyone feel better, I just heard from Mr. Orwant that *his* > copy hasn't a

Re: Ken Campbell is a god (was: pc components)

2001-05-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/05 14:51 +0100 Cross David - dcross said: > From: Robin Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:34 PM > > > On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:05:44AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote: > > > Im nogat samting til ridim insait long pastaim Klingon! > > > > > > Damian (longlong tisa Pe

Re: A look over the shoulder of an XP programmer (auf deutsch)

2001-05-16 Thread Struan Donald
* at 16/05 15:22 +0100 Simon Cozens said: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:41:58PM +0100, James Powell wrote: > > > You've hit the fundamental problem with XP. Getting anything done > > > requires two programmers to agree on something; this, as everyone > > > knows, is impossible. > > > > No it isn't

Re: Enough!

2001-05-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/05 12:04 +0100 James Powell said: > > My girlfriend got her first SMS spam the other week... all it said > was "call this number 2320340 324 CompName EX7 TL7" (or similar). the one i got the other day promised cheaper phone calls and all i needed to do was phone this number at £1 a minut

Re: Politics (was RE: BOFHs requiring license)

2001-05-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/05 12:16 +0100 Matthew Jones said: > > Ah, yes. That's like "we're listening", isn't it, in response to the > > fuel crisis? We're not going to do anything, but we're happy > > to listen. > > That narked me about the fuel protestors. They claimed "the government > aren't listening". "Lis

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/05 12:13 +0100 duncan said: > > >The money has to be raised somehow. > > selling 3rd generation mobile phone licences for extortionate figures, > thereby taxing the population once again? wasn't it an auction? i like to look on this as some sort of crack induced madness on the side of

Re: BOFHs requiring license

2001-05-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/05 16:41 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > At 15:27 13/05/2001, Simon Cozens wrote: > > >On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 03:30:31AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote: > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/18866.html > > > > Absurd, laughable and bizarre. W

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/05 12:07 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said: > Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > There is a very real argument for devices that do one thing and one > > thing only but do it in a very simple way without all the flimflam > > that accompanies most moder

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/05 11:49 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said: > Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Putting pretty interfaces on existing unstable systems does not > > help to make them simpler... > > That's part of it. Landing a thudding great book of what the thing > _can_ do, rather than a coo

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/05 11:32 +0100 Roger Burton West said: > On or about Fri, May 11, 2001 at 10:48:41AM +0100, Jonathan Peterson typed: > > >You know, from the outside, Unix looks so well designed and clean and modern... > > >From the outside, Windows looks as if it works. > > ObRant: computers and OSes i

Re: putting escape characters in files

2001-05-10 Thread Struan Donald
* at 10/05 16:37 +0100 Dominic Mitchell said: > On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 04:35:29PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: > > kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into > > a file for, say, writing vi macros? > > > > i've had a look through some d

putting escape characters in files

2001-05-10 Thread Struan Donald
kind of off topic but how do you get things like ^M and such like into a file for, say, writing vi macros? i've had a look through some docs but i'm beggining to suspect it's one of those bit of unix aracana know to a chosen few. or is there some site/resource that contains this info? ta struan

NMS formmail

2001-05-10 Thread Struan Donald
is this useable as i have someone in the office using the real version and difficulties with it and i'd quite like to be able to say: ah ah! you should use this instead. ta struan

Re: TBA?

2001-05-10 Thread Struan Donald
* at 10/05 10:22 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > is a venue decided on for tonights meeting, or is it still TBA? Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting is a social meeting and has been postponed for a week to the Thursday 10th May. It will be at the Penderel's Oak

Re: sing if you're happy that way

2001-05-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 08/05 15:18 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: > Excuse me for my ignorance of this matter, however I can't figure out what > 'CHOPS' means in this context (and am sure I'm not alone among London PMers, > at least not on this question). > > According to acronymfinder.com it's "Controlled Humidity Ope

Re: sing if you're happy that way

2001-05-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 08/05 13:04 +0100 Matthew Jones said: > Wisty - next T-shirt please: > > use strict > is gay > > Heh. On the back "-w is jolly"? surely the back should be: CHOPS struan

Re: More revolting natives

2001-05-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/05 17:33 +0200 Niklas Nordebo said: > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:29:37PM +0100, Dean wrote: > > On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:17:25PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: > > > Oh, and you've just gotta love the mentality that sees 'gay' as an insult. > > > Gives a real feel for the kind of per

Re: Apocalypse Two

2001-05-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/05 10:22 +0100 Dave Hodgkinson said: > Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > i kind of like -> from a visual point of view. > > much more like APL... ;-) i'd not know about that. seem to recall seeing an example of APL in a book once and it loo

Re: Apocalypse Two

2001-05-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/05 09:48 +0100 Jonathan Peterson said: > > > And much, much more! > > "we'll switch to using . instead of ->" > > Yay!! i kind of like -> from a visual point of view. struan

Re: cocktails

2001-05-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/05 12:42 +0100 Simon Wistow said: > Chris Heathcote wrote: > > > Off the top of my head: > > ICA bar, Match (Noho/Farringdon/Sosho), lab (on Old Compton St.), aka... > > also heard about Smiths of Smithfield, but never been there. > > For true geekdom go get cocktails go to Cynthia's Cyb

Re: tube strike / may meeting postponed til 10th

2001-05-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/05 10:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said: > On Wed, 2 May 2001, Struan Donald wrote: > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1307000/1307103.stm > > > > for those who don't get a kick out of seeing server errors :) > > Which we all know you don't

Re: tube strike / may meeting postponed til 10th

2001-05-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 02/05 16:51 +0100 Leon Brocard said: > jo walsh sent the following bits through the ether: > > > well, it looks like the tube strike (8pm Weds 2nd May - 8pm Thurs 3rd May) > > is still on, and this will scupper our May social meeting plans rather. > > It's not anymore, but we shouldn't shi

Re: Company Name

2001-04-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/04 13:15 +0100 Jonathan Stowe said: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Robert Shiels wrote: > > > I've decided to set up my own company and become a contractor. There are > > quite a lot of decisions to be made, but the hardest one I'm finding is > > thinking of a company name! > > Get the domain of

Re: Company Name

2001-04-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/04 09:02 +0100 Robert Shiels said: > I've decided to set up my own company and become a contractor. There are > quite a lot of decisions to be made, but the hardest one I'm finding is > thinking of a company name! So far my only ideas are simply "Shiels" or > "Shiels Consulting"; this is f

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-23 Thread Struan Donald
* at 21/04 10:14 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, you wrote: > > > I read it as not wanting to fund the various commercial entities one > > ends up funding in order to actual get a digital box. The idea of > > putting any more money in the Murdoch empires coffers just for the > >

Re: Beginners Guide

2001-04-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/04 22:59 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, you wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:34:02AM +0100, Robert Shiels wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Matthew Byng-Maddick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Personally I don't mind funding the beeb, as lon

Re: next social meeting vs tube strike

2001-04-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/04 15:04 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: > From: Steve Mynott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:48 PM > > > Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Noticed on my way past the news stands last night that the next

next social meeting vs tube strike

2001-04-19 Thread Struan Donald
Noticed on my way past the news stands last night that the next tube strike is pencilled in for May the 3rd, as is the next social meeting. OK, so the strike might not happen but if it does is this not going to make the next social meeting a bit problematic? just a thought. Struan

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/04 17:47 +0100 Dominic Mitchell said: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:43:20PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: > > Alexis Denisof (who plays Wesley) is going out with Alyson Hannigan > > (Willow). > > For some reason, this is made even worse by the automatic word > association of "Wesley"

Re: Mourning clothes for London.pm

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/04 16:50 +0100 Dean said: > On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 04:43:09PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: > > > CNN reports that BtVS's SMG will wed Freddie Prinz. > > > > Why would that bother us? Remember, we're all Willow fans here. > > You may insult my OS, you may insult my editor but don't

Re: Komodo

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
* at 18/04 11:58 +0100 Robin Szemeti said: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, you wrote: > > > IMHO the Linux port is an afterthought, most of the effort seems to have > > been focused on the Windows side, the integration with Visual Studio > > springs to mind. > > umm ... since Linux accounts (at a guess)

CPAN search from mozilla address bar

2001-04-18 Thread Struan Donald
no idea if anyone will find this useful but: if you use mozilla (on linux/*nix at least) stick this: http://search.cpan.org/search" > in a file called cpan.src in the searhcplugins directory of your mozilla install. restart mozilla. go the the internet search options, select CPAN as your

Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-17 Thread Struan Donald
* at 17/04 14:09 +0100 Mark Fowler said: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: > > surely there should be a better way than this? after all the > > combinations involved are quite numerous. is the notion of something > > that does : > > > > #!/bin/sh >

Re: NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-17 Thread Struan Donald
* at 17/04 14:00 +0200 Philip Newton said: > Mark Fowler wrote: > > 3) Write a set of scripts > > ...with a bunch of different extensions such as .pl .plx .cgi for > combinations of "operating system" + web server that map scripts to > interpreters by extension and/or directory rather than by sh

Re: TPJ Reborn

2001-04-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/04 17:50 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:10:12PM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > > > Paul Mison sent the following bits through the ether: > > > > > > > If you're going to do IRC style karma-ing, at least make sure there

NWS (was Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April)

2001-04-11 Thread Struan Donald
* at 11/04 08:28 +0100 Mark Fowler said: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: > > I'll also be able to give a quick status update on the website for NMS > (probably at the same time as I'll be using it as my example) what is the status of the NMS thing. i'm liable to have some s

Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-10 Thread Struan Donald
* at 10/04 09:15 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > * Marcel Grunauer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 04:56:28PM +0100, Struan Donald wrote: > > > > > > nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small > > > h

Re: Technical Meeting - 19th April

2001-04-09 Thread Struan Donald
* at 09/04 16:09 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: > > > p.s Next social meeting is on Thur 3rd May. Suggestions for venues would be > most welcome. nowhere we might be tempted to sit by the thames till the wee small hours generating tremendous hangovers :) struan

Re:

2001-04-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/04 11:34 +0100 Natalie Ford said: > At 22:42 04/04/01, David Cantrell wrote: > > PC-Pine is suitable only for small children recovering from major surgery. > > ...and maybe people who prefer a GUI? :) isn't that what he said? :) struan

Re: the 2nd best london.pm meeting of all time

2001-04-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 06/04 10:16 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: > From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 06 April 2001 10:00 > > > I nominate last night as the 2nd best social meeting of all time, just > > behind the TVR train and toilet seat nicking of a previous meeting. > > It _was_ a lot of fun.

Re: Certing

2001-04-06 Thread Struan Donald
* at 05/04 21:37 + Robin Szemeti said: > On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, you wrote: > > * Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > * Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Will the Perl Cert discussion/brainstorming be taking part at todays meet > > > > or the technical one? > > > > todays > >

Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-04-02

2001-04-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/04 14:23 -0400 David H. Adler said: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 11:36:22AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: > > > > Martin Ling delurked and couldn't believe we were all nutters and > > Buffy fans. David Adler added "drunks". Jonathan Stowe added > > "skateboarders, musicians". Lucy McWilliam (wh

Re: Test

2001-04-04 Thread Struan Donald
* at 04/04 15:58 +0100 Robin Houston said: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 03:09:02PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > > [...] the HTML hanger on serves no purpose except to consume > > my disk space at 4 times the rate. > > You mean you *archive* this bollocks? doesn't eveyone archive all their mail? *

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 17:21 +0100 Matthew Byng-Maddick said: > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: > > * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: > > > Either that or he misread F&M as S&M, or, worse, FHM. > > well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :) &g

Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: > > From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject > >>> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into > > ^^^ > >> Hmmm. Do the words

Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 14:17 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: > From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56 > > > So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? > > Where do I start? > > * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to > sta

Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 13:55 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: > * Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > > > > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane > > > cannisters as a child? > > > > We *all* used to do *that* :-)

Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald
* at 03/04 13:45 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: > > From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane > > cannisters as a child? > > I guess that goes with the accent Greg ;-) > > If you hadn't discovered Perl goodness knows what you'd

Re: Buffy riding a pony!

2001-04-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 02/04 16:26 +0100 David Cantrell said: > I was bored today, so I wrote an ickle module which takes code like > this: we're less than half way through damian's year and already this sort of thing is becoming very common. i'm beginning to think that YAS didn't think the idea through carefully

Re: Debian question ...

2001-03-22 Thread Struan Donald
* at 22/03 14:29 + David Cantrell said: > mallum and others wrote: > > > dpkg -l > > OK, so how did I manage to miss that? Answers on a postcard. i suspect it's the well known phenomona of managing not to read the one line of the manual that was relevant. struan

Re: Scalar Context vs List Context

2001-03-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 15/03 11:18 - David Cantrell said: > On Thu, Mar 15, 2001 at 10:04:47AM +0000, Struan Donald wrote: > > * at 14/03 10:37 -0500 Dave Cross said: > > > ... and how much trouble you can get in for not knowing the > difference: > > > > > > <http://s

Re: Scalar Context vs List Context

2001-03-15 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/03 10:37 -0500 Dave Cross said: > ... and how much trouble you can get in for not knowing the difference: > > the best thing about this is the number of links to this story that give the impression the kids were arrested for not knowin

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/03 15:22 + Michael Stevens said: > On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:10:02PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > > WebDAV is not OK, cos it means installing yet more stuff on the server > > which is simply not needed. If a user can't use scp, then I don't want > > that user. I mean, it's not har

Re: Matt's Scripts

2001-03-14 Thread Struan Donald
* at 14/03 14:59 + Mark Fowler said: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > At Wed, 14 Mar 2001 14:34:32 + (GMT), Jon Eyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > > > > > > My several users use scp. > > > > > > > > is there an idiot-pr

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/03 15:23 + Aaron Trevena said: > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > My opinion is that the only way this project could work is if the scripts > > > worked on _any_ web server on _any_ platform with _no_ extra modules. Matt

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/03 10:56 + Michael Stevens said: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 10:58:36AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote: > > how to solve this, will there is an easy way that would deal with > > the problem at source - perl certification > > > > *duck* > > > > having said in another email how there were

Re: Strange Request

2001-03-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/03 10:43 - Jonathan Peterson said: > > > There's a marketing battle that needs to be fought first. We > > need, somehow, > > to ensure that newbie CGI programmers read criticisms of > > Matt's scripts > > _before_ they find Matt's Script Archive. And I don't know > > how you're going

Re: New London PM Shirt Designs

2001-03-01 Thread Struan Donald
* at 01/03 11:50 + Michael Stevens said: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 10:46:54AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > > "Hamlet D'Arcy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Here is the new London PM T-shirt design that some of you asked about at the > > > last meeting. > > > http://www.geocities.com/ham

Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/02 17:37 + Michael Stevens said: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 05:33:34PM +, Matthew Robinson wrote: > > OK, its 'meetings are held on the day after the first wednesday of the month'. > > That makes perfect sense now, > > I work on the "meetings are held whenever more than half the pe

Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/02 15:21 + Roger Burton West said: > On or about Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 03:16:17PM +0000, Struan Donald typed: > > >to be more helpful see above[1]. > >[1]: wondering how to make mutt do things in the right order when > >replying to multiple posts. > >

Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 23/02 06:57 -0500 Dave Cross said: > At Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:40:19 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > Q. When are social meetings? > > A. On the day after the first wednesday of the month. > > Please stop confusing the newcomers. > > London.pm social meetings are _a

Re: Heretics' meeting

2001-02-28 Thread Struan Donald
* at 28/02 15:09 - Hamlet D'Arcy said: > Could you post a bit more about the Heretic's meeting? > Perhaps some links. > > I've never heard of the group. if only we had a faq :) struan

Re: Quantum Weirdness

2001-02-27 Thread Struan Donald
* at 27/02 17:48 + Rob Partington said: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Robin Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I just bought a Mars bar, and it's > > *drum roll* > > sixty-five grams! > > They already did that on IRC! Keep up, that man! > > Tue1129#London.pm/Ranguard> Arrg, Damio

Re: geek cricket

2001-02-27 Thread Struan Donald
* at 27/02 12:33 + Roger Burton West said: > On or about Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 12:29:19PM +, Amias Channer typed: > > >Each company would have a team (or combine to make teams) and play 40 over > >matches on sunday afternoons in some sort of league . > >Does this appeal to anyone ? gamblin

Re: Greetings

2001-02-23 Thread Struan Donald
* at 23/02 14:24 - Matthew Jones said: > > > > Cordelia > > > Airhead > > > > Arrogant, too. IMO. > > Being a 8uffy refusenik, I'm a little confused by this conversation. Do you > think there might be any websites about 8uffy of Sarah Michelle Gellar out > there that I can tr

Re: Greetings

2001-02-23 Thread Struan Donald
* at 23/02 15:08 +0100 Philip Newton said: > Michael Stevens wrote: > > Question: 8uffy or willow? > > Answer: a controversial issue on which no consensus has yet > > been reached. > > That's because some people just won't see the light :-) TMTOWTDI surely? struan

Re: t-shirts

2001-02-21 Thread Struan Donald
* at 21/02 12:49 + Michael Stevens said: > On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 12:43:34PM +, Paul Mison wrote: > > On 21/02/2001 at 12:26 +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > >ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US > > > > and they were disposable. This sort of meme just does the rounds too > > rapidly. I mean,

Re: DMP

2001-02-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/02 11:12 - dcross - David Cross said: > From: Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 20 February 2001 11:01 > > > > * at 20/02 10:35 + Mark Fowler said: > > > Micheal claimed that: > > > > > > > amazon uk have started s

Re: DMP

2001-02-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/02 12:08 + Greg McCarroll said: > * Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > why did amazon have to go and do things that make you not want to buy > > books from them? it's enormously inconvenient. > > > > yip, i occasionally break

Re: DMP

2001-02-20 Thread Struan Donald
* at 20/02 10:35 + Mark Fowler said: > Micheal claimed that: > > > amazon uk have started shipping data munging with perl. I have my > > copy. > > Indeed they have. I've got mine now. They're also shipping the mod_perl > pocket reference. mmm, pc bookshop tell me uk release not till july

Re: Alternative to bad perl resources

2001-02-19 Thread Struan Donald
* at 19/02 13:34 + Steve Mynott said: > Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Surely part of the reason that so much bad code gains so much popularity > > is that bad coders tend to think their code is good, so don't mind > > publicising it and shouting about it lots. Good coders, on

Re: VA?

2001-02-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/02 17:07 + Jonathan Stowe said: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Struan Donald wrote: > > > > *and* they have blue LEDs :) > > > > Well that doubles the price for starters :) ah, but everyone loves blue LEDs struan

Re: VA?

2001-02-13 Thread Struan Donald
* at 13/02 13:24 + Dave Hodgkinson said: > > Anyone have an opinion on VA? we have some of their kit and seems nice. they come with actual manuals for a start plus the support people actually seem to know about linux. (note that this is gleaned from talking to our sys admin rather than actu

Re: TT2 Question

2001-02-08 Thread Struan Donald
* at 08/02 13:00 -0500 Andy Williams said: > I'm installing TT2. > The problem. the installation says that I need XML::DOM ver 1.27 > installed > > I've hunted high and low but all I can find is version 1.25! > > Anyone know where I can get it? libxml-enno is what you want. struan

Re: Bad programming considered harmless

2001-02-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 02/02 12:25 - Jonathan Peterson said: > > > > > However, I don't question the plumber's competence, or > > indeed pretend to > > > anyone including myself that I can do a good job of it. > > The same should > > > apply to programming. If I were to try my hand at > > re-plumbing my kitche

Re: Mailing List Stuff

2001-02-02 Thread Struan Donald
* at 02/02 12:29 + Jonathan Stowe said: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > > > > Any questions? > > > > Yeah, can I have a pony ? what is it with ponys? struan

Re: Amazon Sales Rank

2001-02-01 Thread Struan Donald
* at 01/02 08:35 -0500 Dave Cross said: > Data Munging with Perl > by David Cross > > Amazon.com Sales Rank: 760 > > Blimey, how did that happen? Yesterday it was 87,867! a day in the life of a famous perl author: goto: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110006/ while (1){ loo

Re: website directory access

2001-02-01 Thread Struan Donald
* at 01/02 12:35 - Robert Shiels said: > > I don't really like this, is there another way? I don't want to have to > resort to .htpasswd files, which is what I've implemented for now. er, what's wrong with them? struan

Re: Perl Books

2001-01-31 Thread Struan Donald
* at 31/01 14:28 + Dominic Mitchell said: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:24:20AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote: > > Here's an interesting page[1] > > Have a URL for that, guv? er... this unweldy thing would seem to be it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/4045/107-2581489-8245353 strua

Re: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/01 15:29 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > >>mmm, this should be a FAQ... > >> > >>perldoc Template: > >>struan > >> > >>(sho missed this fisrt time round too :) > >> > > Thanks for the pointers, call me lazy, isn't that supposed to be a trait > of a good programmer? ;-) only for c

Re: Another Template Toolkit Q

2001-01-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/01 15:17 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > So TT nicely allows a filename, a filehandle or blank for STDOUT. > > So how to I capture the output to "some variable" so I could, say, > manipulate that output > without having to read the file I've outputted? > > Is that possible? mmm,

Re: Video Tips

2001-01-29 Thread Struan Donald
* at 29/01 11:29 - Robert Shiels said: > Staying resolutely on-topic [1], I've started watching my "League of > Gentlemen" first series DVD. > > This is a very good DVD indeed, with an second audio track by the cast > talking about why they did everything. > > The DVD starts with a question

Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

2001-01-26 Thread Struan Donald
* at 26/01 11:33 + Michael Stevens said: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:30:28AM +0000, Struan Donald wrote: > > on the other hand kickstart files aren't that tricky to write and you > > can then set up the box in a sensible way (or something approaching > > that) and

Re: Sun's Perl was Re: Application servers and e-commerce platforms

2001-01-26 Thread Struan Donald
* at 26/01 11:21 + Michael Stevens said: > > IMHO the main significance here is in the default install. You can > fiddle around with anything if you want and make it vaguely sensible as a > server. > > Redhat as default is not very well setup to use as a server on the internet > (I feel). De

Re: Dream weaver

2001-01-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/01 15:56 - Robert Shiels said: > Subject: RE: Dream weaver > > Just got sent this: > > DREAMWEAVER 3.0- Training Dates Now Available! > == > With Dreamweaver being adopted by up to 90% of development companies > worldwide, Focus Group are n

Re: Dumb-assed question

2001-01-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/01 11:26 + James Powell said: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 11:05:49AM +0000, Struan Donald wrote: > > * at 25/01 10:37 + Michael Stevens said: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Dreamweaver (I know,

Re: Dumb-assed question

2001-01-25 Thread Struan Donald
* at 25/01 10:37 + Michael Stevens said: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:02:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dreamweaver (I know, don't ask) nicely escapes the spaces to %20 but when > > I try and download these, the %20 appears in the Netscape file save as box > > inste

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Struan Donald
* at 24/01 12:07 -0600 Paul Makepeace said: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 01:47:59PM -, Jonathan Peterson wrote: > > Jon, who thinks Windows workstation connected to *nix machine running samba > > is the prefered development environment. > > Aye aye. Windows UI is much nicer than linux's (right n

Re: odd -w effect

2001-01-24 Thread Struan Donald
* at 24/01 13:18 + Greg McCarroll said: > * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > At Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:08:50 +, Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:04:33PM +, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > > On or about Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:08:37PM +000

Re: Conslutancy

2001-01-22 Thread Struan Donald
* at 22/01 16:33 + Greg McCarroll said: > * Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > actually mutt has cool mailing list functions in that you can define a > > mailing list in the config and then l (or L, i forget) replies to the > > list rather than the

Re: Conslutancy

2001-01-22 Thread Struan Donald
* at 22/01 16:22 + Simon Wistow said: > Andy Wardley wrote: > > > So without wishing to start another holy war, is it possible to change > > the mailing list configuration to have a more sensible default Reply-to? > > > I have arguments with Leon about this. He usually quotes 'Reply To > mu

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