generate Perl code on
the fly. This is why comparing Java and Perl tools is tricky...
Leon
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Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine
of their choice at the technical meeting on
Thursday? (as long as everyone don't pick TT2 of course...)
Leon
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Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Off the keyboard, thru the router, over the bridge, nothing but net!
Greg Cope sent the following bits through the ether:
I want to design a mailer for sending large numbers of individual
messages to a large list.
You're writing a mailer in Perl. Mailers have been done before. If
you're using a slow one, then look at other ones, such as exim.
Leon
--
Leon
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether:
There are modules out there for doing IP2LL
http://www.astray.com/Bath.pm/near.cgi
even worked in Montreal. Fails for btinternet atm though...
Leon
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Iterative Software
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether:
'cos they're all based on the Slash code? Which isn't all that amenable
to total reskinning.
Oh look, that slashcode 2.0 uses Template Toolkit...
Leon
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Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative
, so you could at least ask him for his list...
Leon
ps speed isn't important
--
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Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... If I were you, who'd be me?
Greg McCarroll sent the following bits through the ether:
It is a very alpha-ish cgi script that simply compiles a
Leader Board of known London.pm people
The modules list is a bit out of date in this case (I'm at eight)...
Leon
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Leon Brocard.http
Richard Clamp sent the following bits through the ether:
Yeah but if you did just parse 02packages blindly then Leon would have
a bigger headstart with all of the Graphviz::GraphMyAunt modules.
Family graphs? Good call. What was that ancestry format again?
Leon
--
Leon Brocard
Leo Lapworth sent the following bits through the ether:
And yes it DOES need a faq, I have the start of one, but would very much
love someone else to finish it off.
google++ # london.pm faq
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02436.html
--
Leon Brocard
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether:
For those not on the yapc europe mailing list.
(you will need to subscribe to register interest in this though).
Hmmm, it may be an idea to get something closer to the center of
town. Quick, someone organise.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard
/DSCF0102.jpg
Eh?, leon
--
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Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Have you seen Quasimoto? I have a hunch he's back!
- byte-compile modules when needed
The reason we haven't seen a Perl-Java compiler is due to the
low-level nature of the JVM and the high-level nature of the PVM. They
just don't mix well.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http
the next
[insert name of famous photographer/subject].
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... All things are green unless they are not
pretty
soon too. Speakers don't need to register.
Leon
[1] no, I have no idea why you missed the footnote either
--
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Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Apple (c) 6024 b.c., Adam Eve
) released Tie::Hash::Cannabinol:
And where are those London.pm tshirts, eh?, Leon
--
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Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Gravity is a myth - the earth sucks
Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether:
The transactions world record sadly is held by M$ at the moment.
http://www.tpc.org/tpch/results/h-ttperf.idc
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative
...
Leon, aaa aaahh ahhh chhoou!
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... And he disappeared in a puff of logic
. Just remember to bring a stake just in case we happen to bump
into a vampire-filled bar...
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Washington was fun
Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether:
Cool. When are you doing that? Sunday?
visualeffect symbol=W with=hands/
Leon
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Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Byte
autotree directive and YAPE, Marcel talked about his data munging
framework plan again, everyone insulted the PDF format, and Nicholas
Clark spotted a flaw in the new Leon Brocard Drinking Game. So there
were lots of ideas but no real answer:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk
] Or Parse::Yapp, but I betcha it'll be more work
--
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Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Careful. We don't want to learn from this. - Calvin
Marcel Grunauer sent the following bits through the ether:
Is that a) a good idea, b) a bad idea, c) common practice anyway and
I just haven't found it?
japhy's apparently kinda doing this:
http://search.cpan.org/doc/PINYAN/YAPE-Regex-3.01/extra/YAPE.pm
The YAPE hierarchy of modules is an
Tony Kennick sent the following bits through the ether:
is there an archive so I can see what has come up recently?
I've been doing weekly summaries of the mailing list, which may help:
http://www.astray.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary
Leon
--
Leon Brocard
Paul Makepeace sent the following bits through the ether:
Have you integrated into a mail server (module, procmail, whatever)
.muttrc:
set editor=/home/acme/bin/autoformat %s; xemacs -nw %s
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software
-trde/misc/foot/flyer.pdf
http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/filmfest/
In other news, you'll all be happy to know that I now have my own
eponymous top-level CPAN namespace. Well, maybe:
http://use.perl.org/journal.pl?op=displayuid=189
Must stop volunteering for things, Leon
--
Leon Brocard
Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether:
This, of course, presupposes that acmemail passes everyone's
definition of a decent mail client. And if it doesn't, we can just
slap the authors until it does :)
You'll be happy to know that I gave up ownership of acmemail a
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether:
If anybody has any of these ...
I could bring along Real Genius? (slightly more old-skool hackers
though)
Leon
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Chris Ball sent the following bits through the ether:
I used to use At-mail a lot at work. Pseudo-interesting question of the
day; do you really feel it was ripped off (in the stigmatism-attached
sense of the word), or given that it was GPLed or Artistic'd anyway, that
it's fair play to them
Chris Heathcote sent the following bits through the ether:
It seems that every promise in the Tory manifesto is based on hearsay
It'd be okay if they were based on shaggy or fat boy slim...
Leon
--
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Iterative Software
Cross David - dcross sent the following bits through the ether:
[SNIP!]
Please fix your mailer to do proper In-Reply-To and References
headers. It's really really annoying.
Leon
--
... Money is the root of all wealth
to come - it'll be slightly
different from a normal technical meeting but interesting and
informative nevertheless.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Useless invention no. 404: Low salt brine
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die
/antibetdesign/vampires.htm
http://www.bagley.org/~doug/shootout/
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg05808.html
Now all I have to do is not volunteer for the p5p summary, Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether:
The interesting bits are as follows;
At no. 11, Sarah Michelle Geller
At no. 10, Alyson Hannigan!!!
You missed out the very important:
No 27, Charisma Carpenter
;-), Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http
to
Tottenham Court Road to actually buy it. The prices are generally
comparable, and you get it *there and then*.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http://www.iterative-software.com/
... Useless invention no. 404: Caffeine-free Diet Coke
, to keep in sync with Larry) shows a
perl6 version of a binary tree program from the Perl Cookbook.
http://www.perl.com/pub/2001/05/08/exegesis2.html
Nat
- End forwarded message -
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software...http
Quite a few people at perl mongers asked me about Perl training. Those
interested, please check out the following page, and please keep
replies offlist: http://www.iterative-software.com/training/
Cheers, Leon
--
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Iterative Software
?
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!
://perl.apache.org/guide/debug.html
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Borg? Where? I don't se*(#$#..NO CARRIER
Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
Anyone up for Dim Sim at 1 O'clock?
Yes. New World, Gerrard Street. I may be very on time.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe
Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
ARGH! Sorry, I got PHB-ed.
Well, Leo and I had a wonderful lunch without you, so ner.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... DoC
://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg04991.html
In other news, the New World restaurant now does very good deals:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg05089.html
Is it not written every second counts?, Leon
--
Leon Brocard
tracking down their agents now.
What a totally excellent idea. The costume designer for Buffy was at
the ICA on the last day of yapc::Europe last year. Unplanned, but
rather weird and neat anyway ;-) This now sets a standard for this
year's conference to beat...
Leon
--
Leon Brocard
Alex Page sent the following bits through the ether:
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:54:05PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 04:47:43PM +0100, Dean wrote:
Um. I no longer want children.
You *wanted* them? :-)
Deep fried?
Tastes like chicken!
Leon
--
Leon
Damian Conway sent the following bits through the ether:
I suppose you'll want me to put that on the CPAN now. ;-)
Yes. Didn't we sponsor you for this ;-)
Leon
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Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe
Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether:
I missed the mention that london-list may be moving to london.pm.org at some
point.
There's no point in mentioning it again until it happens, surely.
So, when's it gonna happen list-meisters?
Leon
--
Leon Brocard
, and I'm feeling generous, so I'll buy a drink for the first person
to place the quote in my .signature ;-) Now if only I could find a
copy of this...
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Did you know
to get there just to spite me?
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... All life's answers are on TV. - Bart Simpson
/pressreleases/
Where will the (delayed) meeting be? Have we booked a room? ;-)
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... I always lie. In fact, I'm lying to you right now!
the camel?
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, know what I mean?
. However, not many UPS's last six hours. Bad
Mailbox!
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... DOC files? We don't need NO STINKIN' DOC FILES!
many different DBI abstraction layers to cope with all databases at
the same time. The OO-DB persistence modules all have their own way of
doing it too...
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Did
interested in.
It helps a lot (and is also blindingly easy to benchmark yourself ;-).
Using bind_columns also helps to speed up DBI, see:
http://www.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/msg/perl-DBI-dev%3A503109
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software
debugger, and B::Generate. First one to
optimise Perl code (maybe replacing bits of Perl with XS on the fly?)
gets a pat on the back.
Leon, sleeep
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... I don't suffer
to choose
from.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Acoustic - What you play pool with
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether:
Deja-Angst : http://www.inktank.com/index.cfm?toon=02-26-01
Hmmm, that came out on my birthday. I think it's a Sign...
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http
as many points snowboarding than he does
in SSX. Somehow falling hurts more...
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... To err is human, to forgive... $5.00
useful (and simple!) for dealing with XML data
structures. If you need anything more fancy, look into
XML::XPath. Always remember to cache aggressively whenever you use
XML.
HTH, Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http
y.com/mailman/listinfo/london-list-summary
I'm away snowboarding next week (well, okay, hurting myself trying out
all those moves I pulled off in SSX) so Simon Wistow will take over
the summary and hopefully do another wonderful job ;-), Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://w
rant about Australians
stealing your GPL / AL webmail program, changing the logo, and selling
it...]
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... Quick! Act as if nothing has happened!
] ;-)
[1] read this as "hurting"
[2] although you're welcome to steal the bottom two and do them
without me, sniff
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
Iterative Software..http://yapc.org/Europe/
... A flashlight is a case for ho
Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether:
This is the eleventh of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London
Perl Mongers mailing list. For the week starting 2001-04-02:
I've been asked repeatedly (mostly by Pete Berlin ;-) to set up a
seperate list for the london-list weekly
, but you can still get RDF:
http://www.slashdot.org/slashdot.rdf
http://use.perl.org/useperl.rdf
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... BREAKFAST.COM Halted... Cereal Port Not Responding.
, Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... Duh! It's like a totally famous quote!
"Black White", a new god
game, everywhere:
http://freebs23.iserver.net/jarkko.jpg
http://www.bwgame.com/
http://archive.develooper.com/perl5-porters%40perl.org/msg24544.html
Leon
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... AAaaeee wizzaaardsah staaafff has a knobontheend, knobontheend
Neil Ford sent the following bits through the ether:
Details? Location? URL?
http://gllug.linux.co.uk/
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... "Suicide Hotline... please hold"
e normally,
you must understand. I am attempting to inject some humour
into the situation.
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all
://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html
Any chance you could use a decent one? I suggest mutt.
Leon
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... All programmers are optimists
Simon Wistow sent the following bits through the ether:
I'm not threading. I order my mail by date. Ptt.
No wonder you're getting confused! :-P
Leon
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... I'm
Lucy McWilliam sent the following bits through the ether:
Gah. I see I shall have to drag(?!) you all along to upcoming beer
festivals.
Nooo. You just gave me a mental image of London Perl
Mongers in drag! Arrghghghgghgh
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http
http://www.astray.com/Buffy/
Leon
ps if only PAUSE weren't down, this'd be on CPAN already...
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys
NAME
lly things such
as Q::S, Bleach, Buffy, and Symbol::Aprox::Sub would go...
Leon
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... A pessimist is never disappointed
TAGA TAGA CAGA TAGA ACGA ACGA TAGA CAGA TAGA GAGT TACA AGTT CGCT
CACA GCGA CCAA CCAA
...
- End forwarded message -
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... I totally paused!
Aaron Trevena sent the following bits through the ether:
thats a bit slow for ntk
Indeed. Thankfully I've removed all pimb talk from my mail
archives. Ten months is pretty slow for meme transfer. I declare NTK
too slow and hence dead. What's next? ;-)
Leon
--
Leon Brocard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following bits through the ether:
Here's what I use, which probably isn't what most people would think
of when they hear "XML parser"
Indeed. This is because it doesn't parse XML.
Leon
--
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ya
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... I'm not afraid of clouds in the daytime
nothing to do with the fact that I just
got Zone of the Enders (fun) that happen to come with a Metal Gear
Solid 2 demo (fab). Oh no.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... I'm not an actor, but I
Robin Szemeti sent the following bits through the ether:
bet he got his mate to write it :)
I noticed that. For a moment I thought it was a rigged review by the
author / his friend / the publisher. But we know that respectable
publishers don't do that kind of thing, right?
Leon
--
Leon
www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03112.html
And finally, it appears that Schwern, Michael is an Alien Drag Queen:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg03105.html
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0103645
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http:
faster.
This call has cost you fourty squillion quid. Please call again!
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... And now for something completely the same...
laxing
pint and explaining why i have a limp
A limp what?
Your message seems to have been truncated Greg ;-)
Andrew.
Phew! Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... It is morally wro
]. H. I still
don't really see what advantages having this in Perl would give
you. What kind of applications were you thinking of?
Leon
[1] A wrapper: http://dev.perl.org/archive/13/045
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp
Heya folks, Piers and I just realised that we hadn't done dimsum at
the New World for a while, so we're doing it today at 1pm. New World
is at 1 Gerrard Place in Chinatown, opposite the fire station. Hope to
see you there!
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com
12 : 0, @z )[ $_ % 8 ];
} ( 16 .. 271 ) )[$_] ^ ( ( $h = 8 ) += $f + ( ~$g $t ) )
for @a[ 128 .. $#a ];
}
print +pack +"C*", @a;
}
Simple, huh? Leon
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc
muylders
Contact Information:
URL: http://www.hal2001.org
Gerrit Hiddink
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: (+31) (0)53-4892425 (please observe Dutch office hours)
fax: (+31) (0)53-4892452
----- End forwarded message -
--
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yapc::Europe..
Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether:
Jamie and I went to HIP97 and had a blast. Yet Another Cool Conference
to go to guys ;-)
Oh no! I've just realised that this makes three consecutive weeks with
conferences that I want to go to: oscon, yapc::europe,
hal2001. Eeek. Wonder
language like Perl[1] wouldn't run that
much faster...
Leon
[1] which is why Java-JVM and Java-.NET CLR are hard and slow
--
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yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... A living example of Artificial Intelligence
Leon Brocard sent the following bits through the ether:
[1] which is why Java-JVM and Java-.NET CLR are hard and slow
... A living example of Artificial Intelligence
Hmmm, I obviously meant Perl instead of Java there. How bizarre.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http
rkshop!
[2] A new version of which is winging it's way to CPAN. I fear I
need to learn some more MakeMaker skills, though...
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... If it ain't broke, fix it a
the best of both
worlds with Inline::Ruby ;-)
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... Always remember no matter where you go, there you are
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... You are in a twisty little maze of Unix versions, all different
happened before we were all made redundant and
after Aaron was hired. Way to go Leo!
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... Oh goody! Another Muranium Explosive Space Modulator!
Philip Newton sent the following bits through the ether:
Someone brought up the possibility of the domain name london.pm.
On a... related... topic: http://paris.mongueurs.net/
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp
Andy Mendelsohn sent the following bits through the ether:
Mind you, does anyone need encouraging to go and see Damian Conway
talk?
No.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... Sucks Syntax
remembering blech volunteering for this...
[1] Strong word. You just collected email addresses didn't you?
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... Wanted: Volcano. Average size. Must be active
on.co.uk/msg01982.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2001/01/perl_god.html
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... 3 out of 4 Americans make up 75% of the population
For all those recovering from the TVRs last night, Piers and I are
going for dimsum at the New World (Gerrard Place, iirc) at 12.30. You
are all invited, but only if you speak softly and don't shine bright
lights...
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc
about a robotic barmaid
too?" sense
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes!
! Not on the screen! Let's buy
Dave a drink or two ;-)
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... And tomorrow will be like today, only more so
much as mostly you only compile
templates once.
While I'm at it, I looked at the TT2 compiler last week and it
generates pretty damn good code pretty quickly indeed. Writing
compilers to Perl rocks.
Leon
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