Re: [Lsr] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8920 (6631)

2021-07-06 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
LSR WG, This Errata is also an outcome of the Flex-Algorithm discussion - is there any further comment? Thanks, Acee On 7/5/21, 5:54 PM, "RFC Errata System" wrote: The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8920, "OSPF Application-Specific Link Attributes".

[Lsr] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-yang-augmentation-v1-04.txt

2021-04-29 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
All, This simply a refresh before expiration with an update of some references, deletion of white space, and some reformatting of tree diagrams/modules so they don't exceed the 72 character limit. Thanks, Acee On 4/29/21, 11:43 AM, "Lsr on behalf of internet-dra...@ietf.org" wrote: A

Re: [Lsr] RFC 9013 on OSPF Advertisement of Tunnel Encapsulations

2021-04-27 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Congrats Xiaohu (aka Tiger), Bruno, Robert, Luis, and Luay, Goods things come to those who wait!!! Thanks, Acee On 4/27/21, 6:10 PM, "Lsr on behalf of rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org" wrote: A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 9013

Re: [Lsr] some doubt about RFC5329 ( Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF Version 3)

2021-04-25 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Jenny, From: Lsr on behalf of "Zengmin (A)" Date: Sunday, April 25, 2021 at 2:45 AM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lsr] some doubt about RFC5329 ( Traffic Engineering Extensions to OSPF Version 3) question3: 4. Link TLV --- " The Neighbor ID sub-TLV is mandatory for OSPFv3 Traffic

Re: [Lsr] WG adoption call for draft-acee-lsr-ospf-transport-instance-02

2021-05-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as co-author, I'm not aware of any IPR applying to the draft. I also support WG adoption. Thanks, Acee On 5/2/21, 4:47 AM, "Christian Hopps" wrote: This begins a 2 week WG adoption call for the following draft:

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-26 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
in subsequent revisions with appropriate references to TEAS documents. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of Jie Dong Date: Friday, March 26, 2021 at 10:39 AM To: Chongfeng Xie , "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-I

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-25 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
on the scalability and where using MTs to support VTNs would make sense and where it wouldn’t. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:28 PM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topolo

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-27 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
, "chongfeng.xie" , "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03 Hi, Acee, Thanks for your understanding about

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-30 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
aware SIDs, it can further provide VTNs with guaranteed resources. We could add some text about this to the draft if you think this is helpful. Yes – that would be useful. Thanks, Acee Best regards Chongfeng 发件人: Acee Lindem \(acee\)<mailto:acee=40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org> 发送时间: 2021

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-originator-10: (with COMMENT)

2021-04-05 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Rob, On 4/5/21, 9:41 AM, "Robert Wilton via Datatracker" wrote: Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-prefix-originator-10: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-29 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
at 8:58 AM To: Acee Lindem , "chongfeng.xie" , Jie Dong , "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03 Hi,

Re: [Lsr] AD Review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-extensions-11

2021-03-12 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Thanks for your review and comments Bruno and Peter for quick resolution. Acee On 3/12/21, 9:20 AM, "bruno.decra...@orange.com" wrote: Hi Peter, > From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com] > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 3:13 PM > > Hi Bruno, > > please see

Re: [Lsr] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-05

2021-03-11 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
-annoucement-05 On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 7:37 PM Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:a...@cisco.com>> wrote: Speaking as a WG member: Hi Gyan, The first question is how do you know which prefixes within the summary range to protect? Are these configured? Is this half-assed best-effort protection

Re: [Lsr] When is an IANA Registry Required

2021-03-18 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member: Hi Les, My opinion is there is no harm and some advantage in having IANA registries for unique IGP protocol bit flag fields. For the existing fields that don’t have registries, there is no burning requirement to go back and define an IANA registry until such time as that

[Lsr] IETF 110 LSR Meeting Minutes

2021-03-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The minutes to the LSR meeting at IETF 110 are posted. Thanks to Yingzhen Qu for compiling them! https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-110-lsr/ Thanks, Acee ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis

2021-03-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member: As long as we are revising, I'd suggest changing "ISIS" in the title and several times in the text to "IS-IS" consistent with other IS-IS RFCs (at least the newer ones). Thanks, Acee On 3/3/21, 1:32 PM, "Donald Eastlake" wrote: Hi, I have a few comments.

[Lsr] FW: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis

2021-03-02 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Xiaodong, You need to reply explicitly to the IPR poll. Thanks, Acee On 2/17/21, 10:31 AM, "Christian Hopps" wrote: Hi LSR and TEAS, This begins a joint WG last call for: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsr-isis-rfc5316bis/ Please discuss any issues on

[Lsr] IPR Poll for "Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network" - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-02 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Authors, Are you aware of any other IPR that applies to draft-xie-lsr-issi-sr-vtn-mt? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email

[Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” - draft-xie-lsr-isis-sr-vtn-mt-03

2021-03-02 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
This information draft describes how MT could be used for VTN segmentation. The authors have asked for WG adoption. This begins a three week LSR Working Group Adoption Poll for “Using IS-IS Multi-Topology (MT) for Segment Routing based Virtual Transport Network” -

[Lsr] Comments on draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext-03

2021-03-08 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member: Hi Linda and Co-authors, My first major comment is the confusion with the usage of multiple anycast addresses for the same application. Why are you requiring multiple anycast address? It would seem the load balancing over multiple servers can be done at the data center

Re: [Lsr] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-05

2021-03-08 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as a WG member: Hi Gyan, The first question is how do you know which prefixes within the summary range to protect? Are these configured? Is this half-assed best-effort protection where you protect prefixes within the range that you’ve installed recently? Just how does this work? It

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-wang-lsr-isis-mfi-00.txt

2021-02-26 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Yali, Speaking as WG member: So this rather simplistic draft can be summarized as separate out the non-routing info into different LSPs, tag the corresponding LSPs, and then implementations can "do the right thing". As we already have RFC 8202 which offers clean separation, I don't know

Re: [Lsr] Doubt regarding A bit set/clear

2021-04-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Gurusiddesh, I’ll defer to the RFC authors on your question. However, please refrain from referring to bits as being “unset”. They are set or clear. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of Gurusiddesh Nidasesi Date: Monday, April 19, 2021 at 6:13 AM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Cc: Spencer Giacalone ,

Re: [Lsr] Early IANA Allocation Request for "OSPF Reverse Metric" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-reverse-metric-02

2021-04-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
ate use range in that registry. Any idea if it’s being made use of? Hard to imagine. On Apr 19, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: Hi John, The authors have requested early IANA allocation for the subject draft to facilitate implementation. The suggested values are: This specificatio

[Lsr] Early IANA Allocation Request for "OSPF Reverse Metric" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-reverse-metric-02

2021-04-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi John, The authors have requested early IANA allocation for the subject draft to facilitate implementation. The suggested values are: This specification updates Link Local Signaling TLV Identifiers registry: https://www.iana.org/assignments/ospf-lls-tlvs/ospf-lls-tlvs.xhtml#ospf-lls-tlvs-1

[Lsr] IANA Early Allocation for "Advertising L2 Bundle Member Link Attributes in OSPF" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-00

2021-04-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi John, IANA, The authors have requested early IANA allocation for the subject draft to facilitate implementation. The following sub-TLV is added to the OSPFv2 Extended Link TLV sub-TLVs registry under the OSPFv2 Parameters IANA registry: Value: Suggested Value - 24 Name: L2 Bundle

Re: [Lsr] IANA Early Allocation for "Advertising L2 Bundle Member Link Attributes in OSPF" - draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-00

2021-04-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
This draft also meets the RFC 7120 section 2 requirements and is a target for WG last call. The function has been implemented in IS-IS (RFC 8668) and the OSPF functionality is analogous. Thanks, Acee From: Acee Lindem Date: Monday, April 19, 2021 at 10:01 AM To: John Scudder , IANA Cc:

Re: [Lsr] Guidance for IANA flags field registry creation.

2021-04-21 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Les, As stated in the guidance, it would be better for the IANA registry to be created by the document that creates the field. If there is a reasonable possibly of extension, we don't see any reason not to create a registry. It's not like IANA registries are a scarce commodity. Thanks,

Re: [Lsr] A review of draft-ietf-lsr-isis-ttz

2021-02-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Adrian, Thanks Much - I think these are all good comments and would greatly improve both the completeness and readability of the draft. Hi Authors, This is really a good review and I believe all the comments should be incorporated. While many of these are sins of omission that will take

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-14.txt

2021-02-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Thanks Peter - we will have a second WG Last Call on the new version of the draft. Acee On 2/19/21, 7:08 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi, these are larger, but important change and we would like the WG to review them. Changes are mostly OSPF specific, except the

[Lsr] IS-IS IANA Allocation for "IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks" - draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-00

2021-04-21 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
IS-IS IANA Registry Experts, The authors of “IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) in IP Networks” have requested code point allocation for the IS-IS code points in the draft. Please evaluate the request and, if accepted, assign values from the respective registries. Thanks, Acee

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8919, RFC 8920, Flex Algo, and Flex Algo BW Constraints

2021-08-18 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
specific node would be applicable to anything but that link and node for the flex algorithm application. Thanks, Acee Thanks, Acee Ron Juniper Business Use Only From: Acee Lindem (acee)

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8919, RFC 8920, Flex Algo, and Flex Algo BW Constraints

2021-08-18 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Ron Juniper Business Use Only From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Friday, August 13, 2021 10:22 AM To: Ron Bonica ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] RFC 8919, RFC 8920, Flex Algo, and Flex Algo BW Constraints [External Email. Be cautious of content] Speaking as a WG member: Hi Ron, My ratio

Re: [Lsr] RFC 8919, RFC 8920, Flex Algo, and Flex Algo BW Constraints

2021-08-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
it would be a mistake to bifurcate the IGP standards with yet another way of encoding link attributes for different applications. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of Ron Bonica Date: Thursday, August 12, 2021 at 3:46 PM To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re:

Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Call for SRv6 YANG drafts

2021-08-17 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The WG Adoption call has ended and there is sufficient support for WG adoption. Please republish the drafts as: draft-ietf-lsr-isis-srv6-yang-00.txt draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-srv6-yang-00.txt Note that the IS-IS draft name should also include "lsr-". Thanks, Chris and Acee On 7/22/21,

Re: [Lsr] [Stub-Link-Attributes] Comments on "Passive Interface Attribute" - draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute

2021-08-17 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
or ISIS, we can put them under “Inter-AS Reachability TLV”, as defined in RFC5316. Comparing with other proposals, the above solutions may be more easy to implement and deployment, and does not influence the core SPF computation. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom From: Acee Lindem (acee) Se

[Lsr] IPR Declarations for SRv6 YANG drafts

2021-08-17 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
We still need IPR declarations from Kamran Raza and Dan Ye. Thanks, Chris and Acee On 7/22/21, 6:50 AM, "Christian Hopps" wrote: Hi Folks, This begins a 3 week WG Adoption Call for the following related YANG drafts: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hu-isis-srv6-yang/

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-27 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
on the issues found during the telechat. > > Thanks, > Yaron > > > On 8/19/21, 20:55, "Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: > > Hi Yaron, > > Thanks for the review. Can you update the status of the SECDIR review? &

Re: [Lsr] Link State Routing (lsr) WG Virtual Meeting: 2021-09-29

2021-08-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
I've scheduled a Meetcho session for this meeting as well. https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/interim/?short=e10d1782-56ea-4d19-969d-e02a3e265a91 Thanks, Acee On 8/16/21, 11:13 AM, "Lsr on behalf of IESG Secretary" wrote: The Link State Routing (lsr) WG will hold a virtual interim

Re: [Lsr] [Stub-Link-Attributes] Comments on "Passive Interface Attribute" - draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute

2021-08-14 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
nce. Aijun Wang China Telecom On Jul 31, 2021, at 06:45, Aijun Wang wrote: Hi, Acee: Thanks for your comments. Please see the replies inline. Aijun Wang China Telecom On Jul 31, 2021, at 01:00, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: Hi Gyan, See brief inlines. From: Gyan Mishra Date: Thursday, July

[Lsr] Congrats to all the C340 Authors

2021-08-14 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
You may have noticed that a lot of inter-dependent LSR and IDR RFCs where published in the last couple days. Congrats to all the Authors!!! New LSR RFCs include: RFC 9084 - OSPF Prefix Originator Extensions RFC 9088 - Signaling Entropy Label Capability and Entropy Readable Label

Re: [Lsr] [Stub-Link-Attributes] Comments on "Passive Interface Attribute" - draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute

2021-08-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
using IS-IS Gen App (RFC 6823) and OSPF Transport Instance to advertise this information. If this is where you are going, I don’t believe you have a strong enough use case to justify specification, let alone the development and deployment. Thanks, Acee Aijun Wang China Telecom On Aug 15, 202

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Qin, Can you publish a revision so that Yaron assure it satisfies his comments? Thanks, Acee On 8/12/21, 9:21 PM, "Qin Wu" wrote: Thanks Acee and Tom for good suggestion, we will take them into account. -Qin -邮件原件- 发件人: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:a...

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The LSR WG last call has ended and I will request publication once the SECDIR comments are satified. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 12:46 PM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Cc: "draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-su

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
v-06. Thanks! -Qin -邮件原件----- 发件人: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:a...@cisco.com] 发送时间: 2021年8月17日 4:33 收件人: Qin Wu ; tom petch ; Yaron Sheffer ; sec...@ietf.org 抄送: draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support@ietf.org 主题: Re: Sec

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-19 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Yaron, Thanks Yaron - I know for RTG DIR we can update our reviews as closed with our datatracker login. Thanks, Acee On 8/19/21, 4:44 PM, "Yaron Sheffer" wrote: Hi Acee, I honestly don't know how to do it, and if I even can unless you send a new review request. Copying

Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2021-09-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Peter, I had too long of a context switch on flex algo See inline. On 9/12/21, 2:15 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi Acee, On 11/09/2021 16:59, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On 9/10/21, 1:46 AM, "Lsr on behalf

Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2021-09-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Linda, Tony, From: Linda Dunbar Date: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 3:45 PM To: Tony Li , "Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" Cc: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , Acee Lindem , Bruno Decraene , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Tony, Answers are ins

Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2021-09-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Robert, From: Robert Raszuk Date: Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 4:23 PM To: Acee Lindem Cc: Peter Psenak , Linda Dunbar , Tony Li , "lsr@ietf.org" , Bruno Decraene , "Acee Lindem (acee)" Subject: Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo Acee, Wide communities actually

Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2021-09-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Robert, From: Robert Raszuk Date: Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 5:34 AM To: Peter Psenak Cc: Linda Dunbar , Tony Li , "lsr@ietf.org" , Bruno Decraene , Acee Lindem , "Acee Lindem (acee)" Subject: Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo I believe flex-algo with addition

Re: [Lsr] Regarding OSPFv3 VPN Domain Type

2021-09-17 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Rajesh, This is the extended community type and RFC 6565 really should have had some references for this - It took me a good 15-20 minutes to recall all the details. The first octet specifies the extended community type of domain ID as defined in

Re: [Lsr] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC2328 (6679)

2021-09-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Removing John as he hasn't followed the IETF for decades. I believe the intention of the text is to reference Figure 9. However, the terminology is confusing. I would remove the reference to "dashed". See suggested corrections to line 3 and 6 of the paragraph below. Corrected Text

Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo

2021-09-11 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Peter, On 9/10/21, 1:46 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak" wrote: Linda, On 09/09/2021 22:17, Linda Dunbar wrote: > Peter and Tony, > > Thank you very much for the explanation. > > Is it necessary to register with IANA on individual Flex-Algo value (a value

Re: [Lsr] IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext (was: LSR Presentation Slot request)

2021-07-14 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
cee, Can you be more specific on what cause “backward not compatible” by introducing the new Sub TLV to carry the additional metrics about the Edge Router? Especially the newly introduced sub-TLV is only carried by the LSA distributed among the routers in the special purposed routing domain (5G LDN).

Re: [Lsr] IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext (was: LSR Presentation Slot request)

2021-07-14 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
org On Behalf Of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 1:36 PM To: Linda Dunbar ; Acee Lindem (acee) ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org Cc: lsr-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext (was: LSR Presenta

Re: [Lsr] IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext (was: LSR Presentation Slot request)

2021-07-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
, where is the right place? Linda From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:24 PM To: Linda Dunbar ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org Cc: lsr-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext (was: LSR Presentation Slot req

Re: [Lsr] IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-compute-ospf-ext (was: LSR Presentation Slot request)

2021-07-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
for public Internet. Answers to your questions are inserted below: Linda From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 7:06 PM To: Linda Dunbar ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org Cc: lsr-cha...@ietf.org Subject: Re: IP layer metrics collected by Edge routers - draft-dunbar-lsr-5g-edge-comput

Re: [Lsr] Generic metric: application-specific vs application-independent

2021-07-30 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as working member: Hi Tony, You've made it abundantly clear that you don't think like the ASLA encoding. However, we have standardized the ASLA encoding in the LSR working group - this is a done deal. You are free to propose an alternative but you this should not be done after the

[Lsr] IETF 111 LSR Meeting Minutes

2021-08-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The meeting minutes have been uploaded. Thanks to Yingzhen Qu for taking them. There were some definitely some bursts of discussion where congestion control would have come in handy. The Meetecho chat from the meeting is also appended but no attempt has been made at editing or even complete

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-09 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Agree with Les. Thanks, Acee On 8/9/21, 11:36 AM, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" wrote: Yaron/Qin - For IS-IS security please also see RFC 5310. For OSPF security please see RFC 5709. Regarding the debate about MUST vs SHOULD, as I see it advertisement of this information is an

[Lsr] RFC 8919, RFC 8920, Flex Algo, and Flex Algo BW Constraints

2021-08-10 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as a WG Member: In reviewing RFC 8919 and RFC 8920, it is clear that the ASLA mechanism was to be used for new link attributes and applications. While the documents do not mandate that there never could be a new way to advertise link attributes, this was clearly the intent. Indeed,

[Lsr] Comments on "Passive Interface Attribute" - draft-wang-lsr-passive-interface-attribute

2021-07-29 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member: Authors, I think this draft is still flawed. Regarding the terminology, I don’t think it should refer to passive interfaces at all since they aren’t referenced in protocol documents. Rather, you should use stub-link consistently – including the title. However, I don’t

Re: [Lsr] Comments on "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" - draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement

2021-07-29 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
eachable-annoucement Hi Acee Answers in-line On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 7:02 PM Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: Speaking as WG member: Authors, I have comments and questions on the draft – many of them that I have raised before. 1. If you use the standard ad

Re: [Lsr] Generic metric: application-specific vs application-independent

2021-07-28 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG chair: We had a protracted discussion of the usage of link attributes for multiple applications. The outcome was RFC 8919 and RFC 9820. If you browse the ospf and isis WG archives for the years 2015-2018, you’ll see there was lots of discussion. You can also view the IETF

Re: [Lsr] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-05

2021-08-11 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
I'd also recommend changing, "key names" to "key-ids or key-chain names" since this is what is actually being advertised. Thanks, Acee On 8/10/21, 11:53 AM, "tom petch" wrote: From: Lsr on behalf of Yaron Sheffer Sent: 10 August 2021 14:57 So let me suggest: An

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Peter, See inline. On 10/13/21, 4:42 AM, "Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi Acee, On 12/10/2021 21:05, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Speaking as WG Chairs: > > The authors of “Prefix Unreachable Announcement” have requested an > adoption.

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
e are BFD limited… Thanks, Acee Best, R. On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 6:48 PM Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: Hi Peter, See inline. On 10/13/21, 4:42 AM, "Peter Psenak" mailto:40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: Hi Acee, On 12/10/

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-12 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
are you worried about? Scaling? In any case, we both agree that flooding this unreachability information to everyone in the IGP domain is possibly not the best way to solve the problem. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of Robert Raszuk Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 3:52 PM To: "Acee L

[Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-12 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG Chairs: The authors of “Prefix Unreachable Announcement” have requested an adoption. The crux of the draft is to signal unreachability of a prefix across OSPF or IS-IS areas when area summarization is employed and prefix is summarised. We also have “IS-IS and OSPF Extension for

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
e credit for raising awareness of the problem space and it would be good to have them working with us on a single IGP solution. But PUA is not an alternative that I can support. Les > -Original Message----- > From: Lsr On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee) > Se

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
1 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: Speaking as a mere WG member... Assuming that there are enough remote PEs that need this unreachability information and we want to use the IGPs for this, here is what I don't like about PUA (Les has taken away much of my t

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
we are not in full agreement. Les From: Lsr mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Greg Mirsky Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 1:45 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) mailto:40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org>> Cc: lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>; Peter Psenak mailto:40cisco...

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-14 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG chair: Agree totally with Chris here. Thanks, Acee On 10/14/21, 5:26 AM, "Christian Hopps" wrote: > On Oct 14, 2021, at 1:25 AM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote: > > > The rest of your argument seems to be that we should move forward w the PUA solution

Re: [Lsr] how not to distribute an e-mail Re: "Prefix Unreachable Announcement"

2021-10-14 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
> Equally if I send an e-mall with that abbreviation it goes into a black hole with no MDN nothirng > > Tom Petch > > ps perhaps this is the considered opinion of the ESP on the I-D:-) > > ________ > From: Lsr on

Re: [Lsr] Prefix Unreachable Announcement and IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification

2021-10-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Robert, From: Lsr on behalf of Robert Raszuk Date: Friday, October 15, 2021 at 3:17 PM To: Enke Chen Cc: lsr , Tony Li Subject: Re: [Lsr] Prefix Unreachable Announcement and IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification Hi Enke, Yes each summarization/aggregation results in loss of

Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification"

2021-10-12 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Robert, From: Robert Raszuk Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 4:27 PM To: Acee Lindem Cc: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lsr] "Prefix Unreachable Announcement" and "IS-IS and OSPF Extension for Event Notification" Hi, >

[Lsr] LSR Interim Updated Agenda

2021-09-28 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Here is the Updated Agenda: Here the New Agenda: 1. Draft Consensus Update 2. Team Les – Congestion Control * Updates to solution (if any) * Further Testing Results 3. Team Bruno – Congestion Control and Flow Control * Updates to solution (if any) *

[Lsr] LSR Interim Reminder - IS-IS Flooding Optimizations

2021-09-28 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Reminder that there will be an LSR Virtual Interim tomorrow on IS-IS Flooding Optimizations. It will take place from 14:00 – 16:30 UTC tomorrow (September 29th, 2021). That’s 10 AM – 12:30 PM EDT and 7 AM – 9:30 AM PDT. Here is the MeetEcho Link:

[Lsr] 9/29 LSR Interim Meeting Mintutes

2021-09-30 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
I’ve uploaded the minutes from yesterday’s meeting. Thanks much to Yingzhen Qu for capturing a very fast-moving and spirited discussion!!! https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2021-lsr-01/materials/minutes-interim-2021-lsr-01-202109291000-00 Thanks, Acee

Re: [Lsr] BGP vs PUA/PULSE

2021-11-29 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG Chair: I believe this discussion has gone off track and the details of the BGP alternatives need to be discussed on the IDR list. For the purposes of the LSR discussion, Robert believes that this is a problem that needs to be solved but that it could be better solved using BGP

Re: [Lsr] Renew: Early Allocation for IS-IS TTZ

2021-11-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
sions. IANA monitors the temporary allocations and sends email to the appropriate Designated Experts in advance of the expiration date asking us if the extension should be granted. Les From: Huaimo Chen Sent: Monday, November 15, 2021 7:25 AM To: Acee Lindem (acee) ; Christian Hopps ; Hannes Gr

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00

2021-11-23 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member: I support WG adoption. My inclination is that this should be experimental track and this feel this will allow for faster publication. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" Date: Monday, November 22, 2021 at 9:12 AM To: "lsr@ietf.org&

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call fo "IS-IS Flood Reflection" -draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05

2021-11-23 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as a WG member: I support publication of this experimental extension to IS-IS. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" Date: Monday, November 22, 2021 at 2:48 PM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: [Lsr] WG Last Call fo "IS-IS Flood Reflection&quo

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00

2021-11-23 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as a contributor, I’m not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of "Acee Lindem (acee)" Date: Monday, November 22, 2021 at 9:14 AM To: "draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flood...@ietf.org" Cc: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject:

[Lsr] IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes

2021-11-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes have been uploaded. Thanks to Yingzhen Qu for taking them!!! https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/materials/minutes-112-lsr-00 The IETF 112 LSR Meeting MeetEcho recording is available here:

Re: [Lsr] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-04: (with COMMENT)

2021-11-29 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Rob, Seems it would be better to get modeling suggestions earlier in the cycle than IESG telechat. Thanks, Acee On 11/29/21, 6:05 AM, "Robert Wilton via Datatracker" wrote: Robert Wilton has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-lsr-yang-isis-reverse-metric-04: No

[Lsr] WG Adoption Call for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00

2021-11-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
We indicated the intent to adopt of draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00 as an LSR WG document at the IETF 112 LSR WG meeting. We are now confirming WG consensus on this action. Please indicate your support or objection on this list by 12:00 AM UTC on December 7th, 2021. Another

[Lsr] IPR Poll for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00

2021-11-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Draft Authors and Contributors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or

[Lsr] WG Last Call fo "IS-IS Flood Reflection" -draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05

2021-11-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
This begins the WG Last for draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05. Please post your support or objection to this list by 12:00 AM UTC on Dec 14th , 2021. Also please post your comments on the draft. I’m allowing as extra week as I like to get some additional reviews – although my comments

[Lsr] IPR Poll for "IS-IS Flood Reflection" -draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05 (WG Last Call Iteration)

2021-11-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Authors, Contributors, Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please

Re: [Lsr] Issues with master/slave terminology in OSPF

2021-11-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
The IETF is already applying these standards to new documents. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knodel-terminology-07.txt At some point, I'd expect that someone with the time and energy will produce a single document that updates all the existing documents using the updated terminology.

Re: [Lsr] Issues with master/slave terminology in OSPF

2021-11-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
nks, Acee Mike Enterprise Network Solutions Architecture & Design Research Triangle Park, NC USA From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" To: "Mik

Re: [Lsr] Issues with master/slave terminology in OSPF

2021-11-16 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Alvaro, On 11/16/21, 4:46 PM, "Alvaro Retana" wrote: On November 16, 2021 at 4:10:16 PM, Acee Lindem wrote: Hi! > The IETF is already applying these standards to new documents. The better reference to what the IETF is doing is this one:

Re: [Lsr] 【Responses for Comments on PUAM Draft】RE: IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes

2021-11-17 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
: Aijun Wang Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; lsr@ietf.org; Christian Hopps ; Tony Przygienda ; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] 【Responses for Comments on PUAM Draft】RE: IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes With MT separate control plane common data plane or Multi Instance separate control

Re: [Lsr] 【Responses for Comments on PUAM Draft】RE: IETF 112 LSR Meeting Minutes

2021-11-18 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
loopback FEC binding bgp next hop attribute is the job of the IGP to build the RIB/FIB and MPLS LFIB which is all based on the underlay IGP prefixes for hop by hop forwarding. Kind Regards Gyan On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:23 PM Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:a...@cisco.com>> wrote: The fai

[Lsr] NomCom 2021-2022 Call for Community Feedback (Relayed from NOMCOM)

2021-10-28 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi LSR WG, NomCom is accepting feedback on nominees for IAB, IESG Area Directors, IETF Trust and LLC Board. NomCom is also accepting feedback on other topics (more on this below). You can see the list of nominees for the 2021 nomination cycle at https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2021/feedback/

Re: [Lsr] draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00

2021-10-28 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
start a WG adoption poll at the IETF 112 LSR meeting. Please read as well as the other drafts on the IETF 112 agenda - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/session/lsr Thanks, Acee On 10/22/21, 12:38 PM, "Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: Thanks Bruno, Les, To

Re: [Lsr] draft-decraeneginsberg-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-00

2021-10-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Thanks Bruno, Les, Tony Li, and Guillaume Solignac for your work on the merged draft. Also thanks to Tony Przygienda and Peter Psenak who participated in the merged draft discussions. I plan to review it this weekend and would ask other WG members to read as well. Thanks, Acee On

Re: [Lsr] Looking for feedback of using Flex Algo to advertise the 5G edge computing associated metrics

2021-11-03 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Linda, On 11/3/21, 8:43 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak" wrote: Hi Linda, I went through your document and here are my comments: 1. the section 1, 2, and 3 can probably be summarized in a single paragraph stating the problem you are trying to solve. The 5G details

Re: [Lsr] WG Last Call fo "IS-IS Flood Reflection" -draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05

2021-12-07 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Les, From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 5:10 PM To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , Acee Lindem , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [Lsr] WG Last Call fo "IS-IS Flood Reflection" -draft-ietf-lsr-isis-flood-reflection-05 Let me try t

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