Nah, Liviu, thanks for the suggestion but downgrading is never a good
solution. I have been working this whole week with Beamer on 2.1 and let's
say that the new UI is the least of my concerns. ;)
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Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com
On Thu, May 8, 2
On 05/08/2014 09:52 PM, Liviu Andronic wrote:
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
BTW, now I understand what Jurgen meant by "no need" to indent the paragraph
after a frame title for the text to remain within the "Frame". I thought
that by saying it was a "Frame" environment, the
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
> I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my
> academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing
> of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.
> So, sad as it
I feel your pain Richard, I really do. Unfortunately, I am in a phase of my
academic life in which everything is on the "production" branch, so testing
of Lyx RC's for my documents was a big no-no. Couldn't risk loosing time.
So, sad as it seems, I only noticed these changes after Ubuntu asked me i
On 05/08/2014 02:51 PM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
Julio Rojas wrote:
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes
the document
more fragile and more cumbersome
Julio Rojas wrote:
> Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
> for experienced users, though.
No, this was not intended for beginners. The need of individual separator makes
the document
more fragile and more cumbersome in 90% of cases.
Fragile because it's ea
>
> Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the
> previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still want to
> go that way)?
Maybe for beginners it wouldn't be a bad idea. Alt-P Shift-Return is faster
for experienced users, though.
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Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Let me just rephrase that we cannot go back to the
> 2.0 UI (for the technical reasons I have explained in previous posts) and
Another wild idea: what about adding new frame environment containing the
previous separator by default (kind of 2.0 behaviour if user still w
2014-05-08 12:37 GMT+02:00 Murat Yildizoglu:
> We had in the recent past some abusive criticisms in the list, but that
> should not make us immediately adopt a defensive discourse when a new
> criticism appears, especially if it is constructive and detailed as here.
>
Let me stress, in case it ha
Hi to all,
I have already signaled, some time ago I think, that this behaviour is
somewhat cumbersome, and that the students (doctoral and post-doctoral
students) to whom I was teaching LyX as a general front end to
everything (R, PDF, etc.) were somewhat baffled by the operations
necessary t
2014-05-08 9:26 GMT+02:00 aparsloe:
> Environments like LyX-Code, Quotation, Quote, Verse and the four list
> environments all resolve to Standard on two returns. (But Verbatim
> doesn't. Perhaps it should?)
>
Oh, I see. This behavior obviously depends on whether KeepEmpty is true or
not. Frame
On 8/05/2014 6:25 p.m., Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas:
You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the
reference for the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example,
"Problem" environment and I want to get out of it into the
standar
2014-05-08 4:54 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas:
> You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for
> the "Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment
> and I want to get out of it into the standard environment, all I have to do
> is issue a couple of returns.
Dear Jürgen, there is no need for irony on your comments. Everybody is
doing an honest effort to work with the "new" Beamer environment.
You have quoted the behavior of other environments as the reference for the
"Frame" environment. If I am in a, for example, "Problem" environment and I
want to g
2014-05-07 17:41 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker :
> Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have
> discovered this?
>
Reading the beamer manual perhaps? Also, the shortcut is displayed in the
respective menu (Edit). And it is also documented generally in the LyX
manuals.
Jürgen
2014-05-07 17:38 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker:
> After arrow right, return.
> I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit
> tab.
>
Well, you know that you only need to nest paragraphs of a different layout.
This is the case for _any_ LyX paragraph layout. So why would you
Which brings up another question. Alt-A return? How could I have
discovered this? If I look at Help/Shortcuts, I don't see it (or am I
blind?)
I wish lyx had a way to discover things like emacs does.
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
> After arrow right, return.
> I can ty
After arrow right, return.
I can type some text. Looks nice. Oh, it's not nested in the frame. Hit
tab.
Now you have Frame inside Frame.
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker:
>
>> OK, I'm confused here. Let's consider workflow
2014-05-07 17:14 GMT+02:00 Neal Becker:
> OK, I'm confused here. Let's consider workflow to make a bullet chart.
>
I was talking about the Standard paragraph, not Itemize.
> Insert sep. Hit return.
> Select Frame
> Fill in Title
> oops - return in title does nothing, navigate past title (righ
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> 2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck:
>
>> One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the "Next
>> Style" option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame
>> environment and you hit , then LyX would know NOT to make the next
>> line also
2014-05-07 17:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Heck:
> One idea I had was to implement something corresponding to the "Next
> Style" option in LibreOffice styles. So, e.g., if you are in a Frame
> environment and you hit , then LyX would know NOT to make the next
> line also a Frame, but instead to revert to
On 05/07/2014 08:07 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
Julio Rojas wrote:
Thanks Scott,
This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old "Frame"
environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another
"problem" appeared: To get out of the title of a "Frame" pressing return is
not eno
Julio Rojas wrote:
> Thanks Scott,
>
> This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old "Frame"
> environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another
> "problem" appeared: To get out of the title of a "Frame" pressing return is
> not enough. One has to use the arrows to
Thanks Scott,
This shortcut is quite useful in getting me over the old "Frame"
environment hangover. Nevertheless, while trying both methods another
"problem" appeared: To get out of the title of a "Frame" pressing return is
not enough. One has to use the arrows to get out of the "Frame title" bo
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Read the last answer in this mail:
> http://marc.info/?l=lyx-users&m=139595652821799&w=2
It may be worth to copy paste this email to note into beamer manual as a note,
it would help frustrated users to get through the first shock what improved
beamer support means ;)
P
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
> Actually is the "separator" what annoys me the most. Is there any way in
> which it is "automatically" inserted by the UI? I find myself doing
> copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a
> separator, a new title an
Actually is the "separator" what annoys me the most. Is there any way in
which it is "automatically" inserted by the UI? I find myself doing
copy-paste all the tame from the previous slide in order to add a CR, a
separator, a new title and an indented line. Without the separator I would
be doing a
2014-05-05 19:14 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas:
> Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the
> ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the
> new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my
> courses. ;)
>
And please report ba
Dear Jürgen
Thanks for your answer. I suspected all the time that the reasons were the
ones explained in that email. Now, I will go back to get used to the
new/improved/simpler/optimized/standardized way with the slides for my
courses. ;)
Regards.
2014-05-05 18:46 GMT+02:00 Julio Rojas :
> Dear developers,
>
> Why was it decided to force users to "indent" content inside a "Frame"
> environment in Lyx 2.1.0, instead of leaving the default behavior in Lyx
> 2.0.x which "automatically" set your content between "Frames" as part of
> the one on
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