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When we got Verizon service last year they required us to get their
router / modem combo. does anybody know what flavor of 802.11 their routers
support? I would be thinking my 6 year old Airport Extreme 802.11N (first gen
with N ) would be outperformed by Verizon's latest greatest
you mean hd dvd don't you scott?
On 9/22/2016 8:27 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
I’m all for open standards. USB-C would be a good one for now. Not sure it
will remove the need for dongles because there’s a lot of gear people will want
backwards compatibility for but at least we won’t be
Yup. We're going to have dongles until they figure out how to make wireless
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I’m all for open standards. USB-C would be a good one for now. Not sure it
will remove the need for dongles because there’s a lot of gear people will want
backwards compatibility for but at least we won’t be reliving any number of
countless battles like the VHS V. Beta, Blue Rey Verses (that
We should all adopt some nonproprietary tech and be done yes. USBC maybe if
that's an open standard. Or something else. Forcing people to one or 2 options
is never helpful. At the rate they remove ports until we have free energy we're
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You know what I never understood, why don’t they include a lightning port on
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lightning be better?
Or should we just all adopt USB-C and call it done?
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
Jeff, you’ll find that applications like SIP calling or other bi directional
protocols will work a whole lot better now with out the double nat. Also, do
not feel bad about the plugging in of cables. Sited and blind alike we all
forget to plug things in even after all these years. Hell I
Just to expand on this a little for Vaughn, the 3rd gen as everyone as said is
not rechargeable. The 4th is, on the back of the 4th is a lightning port. You
can use any lightning charger like your iPhone charger to give it a charge and
under heavy use the remote lasts for months. Same with
As I said, talking to hear him self talk.
Had no value what so ever.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 3:24 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Chris,
> You do not need to bother yourself with this. Your contributions (?) more
> often than not are not helpful.
>
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I believe if you open system preferences as well under security near the area
to select the applications you want to install there is a one time entry to
allow or deny the specific application you just tried to install. Although Tim
and Chris’s method sounds a bit simpler it’s another way to
How great is terminal though. The ability to drop to a bash shell is so useful
not to mention all the handy things you can do with the command line in Unix
environments. It’s like having your cake and eating it too. A cool unix
environment with a highly usable GUI on top that even we blind
I rocked with Ciara once but a different spelling. Benefits of putting the
seed money up for a stage hands company.:)
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:44 PM, christopher hallsworth
> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> No need for that, found a free app from the internet that does this
Chris, sounds like a fine choice. If the user is upgrading from a 500 GB HD to
a 512 SSD she’ll be blown away. That in itself is such a major upgrade.
You’re talking 30 to 45 times faster just on disk access alone. Sounds like
you did good my man.:)
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 4:09 PM,
Hi all,
Just want to share my experience with doing a clean install of 10.12. First
off, I moved everything over to my dropbox account which so far went without a
problem. Next once I did all this, I used to the bootible drive to install
and discovered that the partition could be erased but
AppleVis is the bees knees.
They do a good job over there.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
>
> macOS 10.12 Sierra: What's New and Changed for Blind ... - AppleVis
>
That check-box, in Voice-over settings makes all the difference because
when AppleScript can't talk to VoiceOver
then it uses the speak interface instead which uses the default system
voice.
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 7:05 PM Christopher-Mark Gilland <
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> Absolutely no
Do not disturb? Not perfect but it would stop interruptions
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 4:32 PM Brandon A. Olivares <
thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks. Good to know. I’ve also shut off notifications now.
> > On Sep 22, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
> >
> > Hi
Hmmm. Well there are many many things I could stand to do without. I
cannot get rid of it so I just sweep past them.
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On 9/22/2016 2:47 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
It's not the end of the world, but the lower part
It's not the end of the world, but the lower part of the screen on the iPhone
is kind of dominated by those buttons. And, speaking only for myself, I can't
imagine why I would ever use the messaging apps button, so would love to have
the option to just make it go away. That said, Anders's
Thanks much for the link.
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macOS 10.12 Sierra: What's New and Changed for Blind ... - AppleVis
macOS 10.12 Sierra: What's New and Changed for Blind ... - AppleVis
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-macos-news/macos-1012-sierra-what-s-new-and-changed-blind-and-low-vision-users
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:15 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> Did AppleVis do an overview of Sierra
Yes, the ruls are the same as hardcopy braille. Uppercase letters are entered
with a dot 6 preceeding the letter. 2 dot 6 in a row indicates uppercase the
following characters (continues until a non-alphabetic character). Dots 5 6
indicate lowercase character follows. Dots 3 4 5 6 indicates the
Hi!
Well, maybe its something to get used to.
I haven’t done yet but hopefully soonsoon.
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> 22 sep. 2016 kl. 23:31 skrev E.T. :
>
> What's different, just a couple more buttons to swipe past? I have done the
> iPad but not the iPhone yet so wondering if its really
What's different, just a couple more buttons to swipe past? I have
done the iPad but not the iPhone yet so wondering if its really that bad.
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On 9/22/2016 2:23 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi!
Yes i have this
Thanks, Anders. I will give that a try.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Yes i have this problem to.
> Its very annoying but i use to try finding the text field in the bottom right
> corner.
> Something like that.
> Try that
Hi!
Yes i have this problem to.
Its very annoying but i use to try finding the text field in the bottom right
corner.
Something like that.
Try that my friend.
/A
> 22 sep. 2016 kl. 20:03 skrev Donna Goodin :
>
> Hi all,
>
> One thing I'm finding in iOs 10 is that with all the
Did AppleVis do an overview of Sierra yet? They usually are pretty
quick to do so after a release.
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Not David, but I think I can help. :)
If you set your braille table to either contracted or six-dot, just use the
capital dot 6 before the letter you want capitalized.
Cheers,
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> On Sep 22, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>
> Hello David,
> I’ve
Hello David,
I’ve started using braille input. How do you enter capital letters, numbers
and special characters?
Thanks.
Chris
> On Sep 18, 2016, at 5:16 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>
> On the iPhone, five separate events can be detected at one time. Therefore,
> the
Hi,
At the moment, it's not showing it in the updates screen. You can do a search
for Sierra or, I believe that it is on the Home page of the Mac App Store.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:48, Helga Schreiber wrote:
Hi all!
Hi all! How are you all? So I was at my school today,and I went to the app
store of my Mac, and when I went to updates, it told me not new updates
available However, isn't it suppose to show me the Sierra update since it came
out on Tuesday? Just wondering. Do you have any idea why it is
Finally! I found the needed information online but as is happening
more and more, Apple support articles do not quite match up.
But I finally was able to do it from my iPhone and now the Mac is
happy. Thanks for sticking with this.
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Hmmm. Is iCloud Keychain enabled at the moment, or disabled?
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 14:13, E.T. wrote:
When I do that I am placed on the iCloud Drive item. This happened every time
when I tried to activate the Options
Thanks. Good to know. I’ve also shut off notifications now.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>
> Hi Brandon. This was also like that in the beta of Sierra. I brought it to
> the attention to the beta group I'm with on Roger and one of those members
>
Hi Brandon. This was also like that in the beta of Sierra. I brought it to the
attention to the beta group I'm with on Roger and one of those members whose
also on this list, Daniel I think it was, said that this was going to be normal
behavior for Sierra. Knowing this I turned off
Hi Donna.
I don’t know why we need digital touch in messages on the I phone as it’s good
on the Apple watch. For instance you can’t send your heart beat and what’s the
use of sending a camera?
It is definitely cluttered and when I find where I want to reply, I just double
tap but at times
When I do that I am placed on the iCloud Drive item. This happened
every time when I tried to activate the Options button yesterday.
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On 9/22/2016 1:05 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Hi,
When you interact with the
I did, and no refurbished macs so far. Cheers for the idea though and will keep
looking.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 21:04, Sarai Bucciarelli
> wrote:
>
> check out the apple refurbished store.
>> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:48 PM, matthew dyer
Hi guys:
Can anyone transfer money to and from accounts on the capitalone app? As soon
as I hit the done button, VO stopps reading.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:58, E.T.
check out the apple refurbished store.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:48 PM, matthew dyer
> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> That sounds good. I say you should go with what you can afford. I have an
> iMac 21 inch with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD. I do how ever wish I had an
Hi,
Glad I could help.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:55, E.T. wrote:
Tim,
I finally got around to this and tried your steps last night. Worked fine
except when I brought up the Actions menu, I must have selected delete all
Tim,
Signed out and closed System prefs then opened it and signed in
again. Same thing happened except this time the dialog said incorrect
code. I see no place to reset it.
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Tim,
I finally got around to this and tried your steps last night. Worked
fine except when I brought up the Actions menu, I must have selected
delete all for that is what happened. But TM did a new backup so its
good. It was a rather convoluted process but worked fine. Thanks much.
From
Hi I got it working today. Things are uploading the stuff to dropbox at the
moment but will be attempting the clean install this weekend at the l.atesed.
Matthew
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Daniel C wrote:
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 22, 2016, at
Chris,
That sounds good. I say you should go with what you can afford. I have an
iMac 21 inch with 8 GB of ram and a 1 TB HD. I do how ever wish I had an SSD
as It would be nice to work with, but for my needs things work well. I am
going to be working on getting a clean install of Searria
That did the trick. I forgot about that command.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
> Kliph,
>
> Oops, that should be VO-shift-m as Chris H mentioned.
>
> Later...
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> Tim Kilburn
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> On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn
Mark could you please check your private email and contact me off list
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Oops, that should be VO-shift-m as Chris H mentioned.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 13:21, Tim Kilburn wrote:
Kliph,
Where does it stop you? When you try to open the installer, or somewhere
during the installation process. If
Chris,
You do not need to bother yourself with this. Your contributions (?)
more often than not are not helpful.
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On 9/22/2016 12:06 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I wasn't attempting to be funny. I was
Yes, but this is nothing new in Sierra. Simply vo-shift-m, choose open from the
context menu and it will open as normal.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 20:15, Kliphton Miller wrote:
>
> Okay, before in security settings we had 3 choices for installing apps. App
> Store, App Store
Kliph,
Where does it stop you? When you try to open the installer, or somewhere
during the installation process. If the former, you used to be able to press
VO-shift-space to bring up the Contextual menu then choose Open from there and
it would allow the installer to proceed.
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Tim, you're exactly right. I'll stop not practicing what I preach. Alas, I
digress from this discussion. And by the way, no, I wasn't then, nor am I now
offended. Don't worry.
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Okay, before in security settings we had 3 choices for installing apps. App
Store, App Store and trusted developers, or anywhere. The anywhere option is
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> On 22 Sep 2016, at 01:08, Agent086b wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> should we receive notification there is a new version of the Mac OS? I know
>
Chris,
No offence intended. I hope none taken. There likely is a subjective line,
but since it's subjective, it's difficult to draw. One could say that you and
I discussing this is off topic in itself, and they'd likely be right. But, is
it necessary to change the Subject line for a few
hi,
If VO was polite and not interrupting for you in the past, then I prefer your
VO to mine. The Notifications interrupted me most of the time in previous
versions of the MacOS as well. I usually just turn off the ones that annoy me
the most, or change them to something that's less likely
I wasn't attempting to be funny. I was being dead serious. I really do wonder
where that line is drawn, where one should say maybe it's time we change the
subject to reflect, vs. oh, this isn't gonna veer too badly, keep the subject
as is. I'm not trying to be smart butt over here. I'm
Chris,
Attempting to be funny, or just needing clarification yourself? In my opinion,
the thread didn't actually veer off, there was just some confusion as to some
responses that were posted. Hence, confusion is cleared up with clarification.
yeah, there were some opinions expressed, but
What's considered as veering vs. clarification, or is that subjective?
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Yes I’m familiar with that, but usually when there’s a notification, Voiceover
won’t actually speak it until it’s done speaking the current item. Now, it is
interrupted. I’d prefer to keep the notification but simply not have it
interrupt like that. Is that no longer possible?
Brandon
> On Sep
Certainly is regarding Time Machine. There was just some clarification posts
after the original question.
Later..
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:54, Robin wrote:
Is this Topic concernin' TimeMachine? JustWonderin'
Because that's
Yeah sorry. It was, then it drifted off, again sorry.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:54, Robin wrote:
>
> Is this Topic concernin' TimeMachine? JustWonderin'
>
> Because that's TheSubject of ThisThread or SoItAppears
> At 11:42 AM 9/22/2016, you wrote:
>> Ok. Still can’t
Hello
First, the 3rd generation, as far as Apple Support is concerned, is long gone.
So your chances of support may be slim. Not impossible, but slim. Now onto your
questions.
This remote, does not charge, unlike the 4th generation. Therefore, you change
the batteries when it is low. To set
Is this Topic concernin' TimeMachine? JustWonderin'
Because that's TheSubject of ThisThread or SoItAppears
At 11:42 AM 9/22/2016, you wrote:
Ok. Still can’t see it, all I see is his
signature repeated, my response then the list footer repeated several times.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:34, Tim
> Good day,
Terminal is also my preferred method for creating such bootable media as well.
Applications to me do not give enough output, terminal however seems to give
more.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:49, christopher hallsworth
wrote:
Well keep forgetting the Terminal commands lol so use an app instead.
> On 22 Sep
hi,
No biggy to me. When posting in iOS, if you double-tap to bring focus to the
edit field, make sure that it says "Cursor at the beginning" or something like
that. Usually, it is placed there by default, but if it is there already and
you double-tap a second time, the cursor will be placed
No worries. Tip: in the message body, make sure you are at the beginning of the
text by VoiceOver’s announcement of “insertion at beginning of text”.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:44, Daniel C wrote:
>
> My fault, I guess I'm not used to posting from iOS, so I figure that what I
Well keep forgetting the Terminal commands lol so use an app instead.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:47, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I prefer the Terminal method, but using an app is less worrisome for many.
> If it does the job, then do whatever you feel most comfortable with.
>
Hi,
I prefer the Terminal method, but using an app is less worrisome for many. If
it does the job, then do whatever you feel most comfortable with.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:44, christopher hallsworth
wrote:
Hi all
No
Working here on my late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Sierra. Don’t use them
myself, just wanted to see if it was working for others.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 07:37, Brian Fischler wrote:
>
> This is something I contacted Apple about several times during the beta and
> at least
Hi all
No need for that, found a free app from the internet that does this all for
you. Called “Install Disk Creator”, found this out after discovering Diskmakerx
is not ready for Sierra even though they claim to be “rocking with Sierra”,
according to their web page,
www.liondiskmaker.com
>
My fault, I guess I'm not used to posting from iOS, so I figure that what I
posts where it is supposed to.
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Ok. Still can’t see it, all I see is his signature repeated, my response then
the list footer repeated several times.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:34, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> His answers are posted below the "Sent from my iPhone" signature. For your
> initial eMail, you'll
hi,
His answers are posted below the "Sent from my iPhone" signature. For your
initial eMail, you'll note a "Correct" inserted in your original text. The
practice of inserting a response in that manner is not uncommon, it's just
often difficult to follow if the preceding signatures and other
No he’s not, I cannot see his response at all. Frustrates me how or why people
with iOS devices send emails with just their signatures. I’ve emailed on my own
iOS devices with no problems.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:22, E.T. wrote:
>
> 2nd time too. He may be bottom
Hi,
When using the Terminal to create the bootable installer, it uses the "sudo"
command in front. You, as an Administrator, have the power to use the sudo
command, although the OS will ask for your Admin password in order to proceed.
Once the password has been correctly input, the action
2nd time too. He may be bottom posting.
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On 9/22/2016 11:10 AM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
Hello, blank bar my original email.
On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:07, Daniel C wrote:
Sent from
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 10:03, matthew dyer
> wrote:
> Hi,
Most likely, the password that they are referring to, maybe in a minute
straight of account password. You don't actually need to use the root user that
usually comes with UNIX like
Hello, blank bar my original email.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 19:07, Daniel C wrote:
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:46, christopher hallsworth
> wrote:
>
>> Hello again. Correct.
>>
>> I have finally set up Time Machine,
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:46, christopher hallsworth
> wrote:
>
> Hello again. Correct.
>
> I have finally set up Time Machine, and it’s pretty good. It’s currently
> doing a full backup of a partition on my external disk, this is because the
>
Hi all,
One thing I'm finding in iOs 10 is that with all the clutter of digital touch
and the Messaging Apps button, I can no longer activate the message text field
without swiping to it. Is anyone else encountering this behavior, and does
anyone know of a way to fix it?
TIA,
Donna
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They may be working for you but not for me. Just hung up with Apple showing
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it up to engineering. So be fortunate they are working for you.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
Hello again.
I have finally set up Time Machine, and it’s pretty good. It’s currently doing
a full backup of a partition on my external disk, this is because the first
partition hosts the bootable installation media for macOS Sierra. In fact, I’ve
just been greeted with a notification that the
Hello everyone.
Just an update on my mac research for Hannah’s Christmas present.
She has chosen the 13 inch Macbook Pro with retina display, customized with 512
GB of PCIE-based flash storage, base RAM of 8 GB and base processor of 2.9 GHZ
with turbo boost up to 3.2 GHZ, something like that
Hi,
You should be able to make any modifications to the notification settings for
Mail in System Preferences, Notification Centre.
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On Sep 22, 2016, at 11:31, Brandon A. Olivares wrote:
Sorry for all the emails. :P
Now
Activities are working.
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Sorry for all the emails. :P
Now in 10.12, when there is a notification, Voiceover interrupts the flow of
whatever I’m doing to tell me about it. Usually it would instead wait until its
done reading the current item before it notifies me.
For instance, if I’m reading something in Safari, and I
Okay, now that we have figured out the weak link in your otherwise brilliant
plans (me), I have implemented the original solution and the network seems to
be working. It will be some time before I notice if the intermittent wifi
outages are fixed, but I don’t have the Double NAT error (which I
The way favorites are added has not used vo period or vo coma for some time.
The way to move mailboxes to your favorites.
1. Highlight the mailbox you want to move
2. Do the mouse down command. Vo command shift space bar.
3. Stop interacting with the mailbox list, go to favorites, and interact
Thanks so weird that this must be device specific as I have a computer only 4
months old and 90% of the time activities will not work for me. Absolutely head
scratching but good to hear they are working for some. Thanks for confirming.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 3:15 AM, M. Taylor
Hey guys,
While shift tab may not be working why not make your life easier. This is in
standard mail with the preview pane closed. All you need to do is VO j and you
can go directly from the message column to your mailbox column and vice versa.
Pretty simple. As far as moving mailboxes to your
Hi,
I forget the site, but I have it saved in my favorites list and will be
doing this at some point. When they say root password, are they
refering to the paassword you set when you first setup the mac? I ask
as I don't recall seting up a root password here on my mac. Thanks.
Matthew
OK, that's good. A couple things to note. Stuff that is on your iCloud Drive
remains in your iCloud Drive even if you turn off the service on either your
Mac or iDevice. What you're essentially doing is just severing that computer's
connection to the data. If you choose "Remove from Mac",
Hi,
There's an app that does this. I don't remember what it's called, though. Try
doing a search in the app store for clock, or vibrating clock, or something
like that.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 9:36 AM, John JD Denning wrote:
>
> Hi, no I don't believe
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