sebastian maemo wrote:
Don't you get pretty soon the no-more-free-memory
advertisement after installing octave and abiword? Wouldn't you like to
install anything you like and more?
http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#initfs
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_GetStartedWithSardine
You need bigger card
Hi,
this is a great article comparing the N800 with the Newton interface. It
raises some valid points.
http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/n800/
Regards,
Leen Toelen
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Hi Fran:
I've got 1GB card. 128MB is the internal memory of my 770. And that is ALL
I've got to install applications. Since it is IMPOSSIBLE (unless you tell me
how) to install an application in MMC.
So easy to understand... I think I'm going to resell my 770. I'm fed up with
struggling with it
I suppose you could just boot from MMC and then install everything on it !
I don't see how you can compare a N80 and the 770 ???
Fred
sebastian maemo a écrit :
Hi Fran:
I've got 1GB card. 128MB is the internal memory of my 770. And that is
ALL I've got to install applications. Since it is
Is the N800 discount program ended?
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sebastian maemo wrote:
Since it is IMPOSSIBLE (unless you
tell me how) to install an application in MMC.
I thought I just gave a hint how to do that in my last mail :-)
True that internal flash won't be used at all when booting from the card
but you can consider this being an advantage. You
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 07:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you like the this idea, then?
- platform (current maemo-developers)
- applications (new list)
- power users (current maemo-users)
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those developer list
names, they will be bothered
Hi
I am starting out with maemo development have installed
scatchbox-0.9.8.8 and
have installed maemo-sdk 2.1 (scirocco) via the installer script method.
Trying to work my way through the maemo 2.1 tutorial, I have created two
targets HOST (for native x86 compilation) and ARM for
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those
developer list names, they will be bothered with user
questions, and those users will then be dissatisfied with
being sent away. Descriptions aren't enough.
I was waiting some kind of concept approval before going into wording.
Let's see if
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 12:53 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those
developer list names, they will be bothered with user
questions, and those users will then be dissatisfied with
being sent away. Descriptions aren't enough.
I was waiting
Hi Fran:
I'll try that: booting from the card. I'll read and study a bit. What I
don't understand is why something so logically needed (it is featured in all
new brand Nokia phones) is not available as default.
Just about the comparison with N80: your surprise makes me think you aren't
aware of
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 10:38 +0100, Luca Manganelli wrote:
Is the N800 discount program ended?
24 hours ago, Quim posted that they will be closing the developer
program in 24 hours. So I'd guess yes.
Ross
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Hi Fran:
I'll try that: booting from the card. I'll read and study a bit.
What I don't understand is why something so logically needed (it is
featured
in all new brand Nokia phones) is not available as default.
IIRC this was looked into seriously and decided to not do it. So this is
Dave Cridland wrote:
On Fri Feb 2 10:56:24 2007, Murray Cumming wrote:
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 12:53 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (renamed maemo-developers@maemo.org, no
change
in subscribers)
There's no dev, devel or development in the name. It will be
bothered by
Hi,
recently Apple donated some code integrating LLVM with GCC, and some changes
to the LLVM ARM backend. LLVM makes it easy to optimize programs throughout
their lifetime (at compile-, link- and runtime, and even after software
installation). A must-have for CPU/memory constrained devices.
[ Qt on maemo is definitely FAQ material ]
Amy Sockanathan wrote:
Has anyone built QT4 for maemo. I am building an application that
requires QT4 and would like to know if anyone has the QT4 for maemo.
There would be a lot of work required to properly integrate Qt with
maemo, such as input
Hi Jakub:
Maybe for N800, but I've bought N770 and hope last a couple of years (two as
a minimum).
Nevertheless I'm trying. I've just played with the
copy-your-existing-filesystem thing. I think I've succeeded copying my
entire system to the ext2 partition in my mmc. Cool.
But it still doesn't
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 06:29:22AM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote:
When I bought N80 phone, I found a very useful and logic feature: when you
install a new app, the application manager asks you whether you want it
installed over your tiny phone memory, or over your large GB memory card.
For
sebastian maemo wrote:
But it still doesn't work. Why? Just because I've got IT2006.49-2 and
Fran's initfs-flasher is updated just to prior version (39-14) or next
version (N800).
I had no time to upgrade my N700 yet. Send me /mnt/initfs/linuxrc file
privately. Or try to apply
Am Freitag, den 02.02.2007, 09:44 +0100 schrieb Leen Toelen:
Hi,
this is a great article comparing the N800 with the Newton interface.
It raises some valid points.
http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/n800/
Yes, there are indeed a couple of valid points I'd agree with.
However, I think he's
Thank you, Marious. That encourages me a lot. Because now I've copied the
whole system a la Fanoush, that is: via GNU tar. So I hope there's not
going be any problem of preserved links or similar details.
Now I was blocked because I didn't have got a usable initfs-flasher in order
to dual-boot.
Am Freitag, den 02.02.2007, 12:53 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
About the flags in the email subject, is this a problem? I can live
with/without them, no strong opinion here.
Yes, please get rid of it.
--Daniel
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On 2/2/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now the problem is to mount the mmc2 before the system needs it. I've
mounted at minircS, just before the line that says mount_devpts (line number
98). Would it suffice? How do I know? I've tried to put the line much above,
but the script
Am Freitag, den 02.02.2007, 03:51 + schrieb Neil MacLeod:
This may be a crazy idea, but what possibilities exist to span a
single filesystem across the two SD cards, thus presenting a single
filesystem to the N800?
I can imagine one day wanting to put a 500Mb media file onto the N800,
Jon Smirl wrote:
Maybe future secondary apps could be built to install into /opt
instead of /usr and then /opt get added to the search path. That would
make it much easier to get the apps onto the mmc card. You would
symlink /opt to the mmc card and then install the app.
Some files needs to
On 2/2/07, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 06:29:22AM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote:
For don't-know-what-reason Nokia failed to make this feature available
on
his 770. They just let me create a 64M swap file that helps, but not
that
much.
I would guess the
This may be a crazy idea, but what possibilities exist to span a single
filesystem across the two SD cards, thus presenting a single filesystem to
the N800?
Not a crazy idea, but you must have a good reason for that. Raid is out
of question. Someone should measure memory consumption for this
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 03:12:04PM +0100, sebastian maemo wrote:
Thank you, Marious. That encourages me a lot. Because now I've copied the
whole system a la Fanoush, that is: via GNU tar. So I hope there's not
going be any problem of preserved links or similar details.
Yes, tar is very good at
And now that I've learned all that much, I created the wrong symlinks: I
cp'ed /usr to the MMC, and then made the wrong link: ln -s /media/mmc2/usr
/usr. Yes, now I know it should be the reverse way, but do not understand
why.
That's it! Don't warry about. You have option to symlink whole
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 04:25:30PM +0100, Zoran Kolic wrote:
And now that I've learned all that much, I created the wrong symlinks: I
cp'ed /usr to the MMC, and then made the wrong link: ln -s /media/mmc2/usr
/usr. Yes, now I know it should be the reverse way, but do not understand
why.
Daniel Elstner wrote:
However, I think he's wrong in picking on GTK+ as the culprit for some
of the UI annoyances. For instance, I don't think it's true that GTK+
only deals with simple input one character at a time. I'm pretty sure
it's possible to pull off Newton-style handwriting as
That's it! Don't warry about. You have option to symlink whole directory:
ln -s /usr/bin /media/mmc2/usr/bin
Wrong. ln is like cp: it takes the existing path first, and makes it
appear at the destination, which you supply second.
You are right. Sebastian should have binaries on mmc and
2007/2/2, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My device is just now reflashed.
Cool! Have you started to breath again?
Not exactly. I think I've broken my mmc with so much usb up and down :(
It sometimes crashes. But then I format it again (the VFAT part) and it
seems to work till crashes
Am Freitag, den 02.02.2007, 10:43 -0500 schrieb Sean Luke:
Daniel Elstner wrote:
However, I think he's wrong in picking on GTK+ as the culprit for some
of the UI annoyances. For instance, I don't think it's true that GTK+
only deals with simple input one character at a time. I'm pretty
On 2/2/07, sebastian maemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/2/2, Zoran Kolic [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My device is just now reflashed.
Cool! Have you started to breath again?
Not exactly. I think I've broken my mmc with so much usb up and down :(
It sometimes crashes. But then I format it again
Daniel Elstner wrote:
While Linux generally supports joining two partitions into a single
logical one, I think there's a huge practical problem with it on the
N800: It only comes with two SD card slots, thus tying them together
seriously hinders your flexibility.
You won't be able to swap
Hi,
have a look at this:
http://lekernel.lya.eu/opie770.html
- apparently a port of OPIE to N770. Not a Qt/4 but... maybe worth contacting
the guy!
And no, I do not share George's opinion of using valuable memory
resources... Qt/4 memory footprint doesn't need to be huge: well, depends
Jon Smirl jonsmirl at gmail.com writes:
On 2/1/07, Neil MacLeod gmane at nmacleod.com wrote:
This may be a crazy idea, but what possibilities exist to span a single
filesystem across the two SD cards,
thus presenting a single filesystem to the N800?
I can imagine one day wanting to put
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
insmod unionfs.ko
mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/media/mmc1/usr=rw:/usr=ro unionfs /usr
to startup scripts (early enough) before anything opens a file for writing under
/usr.
See here:
http://www.linux-live.org/unionfs/
Would unionfs allow a single file to span two
On 2/2/07, Neil MacLeod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
insmod unionfs.ko
mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/media/mmc1/usr=rw:/usr=ro unionfs /usr
to startup scripts (early enough) before anything opens a file for writing
under
/usr.
See here:
http://www.linux-live.org/unionfs/
On 1/21/07, Mark Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a kernel I've built. It's the bog standard kernel
(kernel-source-rx-34) with no alterations other than the patch submitted
by Philip Langdale applied to it.
The md5sum is 2f0d130cb7b0d7e62f5b1a535927a921 though I'm not sure what
benefit it'll
On Feb 2, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Elstner wrote:
OK, that was just one example. Another is that GTK+ (with Pango) has
really sweet support for Unicode and complicated scripts. The comment
that GTK+ supposedly handles Unicode makes it sound as though its
support were rather limited or not
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:33:15PM -0600, Jae Stutzman wrote:
On 1/21/07, Mark Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a kernel I've built. It's the bog standard kernel
(kernel-source-rx-34) with no alterations other than the patch submitted
by Philip Langdale applied to it.
The md5sum is
Jae Stutzman wrote:
I flashed this kernel and it recognizes my 8G SDHC card fine. However,
now I _seem_ to be getting random reboots. The question is that I
noticed that this bug ( https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=820)
appears to be fixed from the latest maemo update.
Does this
Neil MacLeod wrote:
is there more than one SDHC kernel floating around?
My bad, looking bad through the thread I see we are discussing the same SDHC
kernel referenced from ITT.
I stand by my concerns that it may be more flakey than the stock kernel, unless
something else is causing it to
Mark Lee wrote:
At least one person
on the Internet Tablet Talk forums initially thought that a reboot
they'd encountered was down to the patch but then later reported it was
running seemingly stable.
Mark
One of those people might have been me - I did get a reboot fairly early on,
then it
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 07:05:07PM +, Neil MacLeod wrote:
I used the SDHC kernel referenced in this thread:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=30439#post30439
I've installed this SDHC kernel on an N800 with only xterm + openssh as
additional apps, RD enabled,
Marius Gedminas wrote:
What does /proc/bootreason say?
It says sw_rst:
~ $ cat /proc/bootreason
sw_rst
~ $ ls -la /var/lib/dsme/stats
drwxr-xr-x2 root root0 Feb 1 00:37 .
drwxr-xr-x3 root root0 Jan 1 1970 ..
-rw-r--r--1 root root2
Hello!
A new Scratchbox installer script that installs and configures the
Scratchbox cross-compilation toolkit for maemo 3.0 'bora' is now available.
I think I did everything as described (Removed old version sandbox, call
scripts as described, use debian sandbox packages) , however at the
Hello
I had similar problems . The installer failed to detect that my
hard-disc was full and finished installing without error message.
After making about 2 gig free it worked. perhaps you have the same
problem
greetings
On 2/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello!
A new
Hello,
We proudly announce that the new Application Catalog is officially
available at http://downloads.maemo.org. We kindly ask the developers to
start using the new catalog for registering applications, instead of the
wiki pages.
This is a major step in the maemo.org facelift project [1].
Hello,
The maemo team proudly announce the newest development environment for
Nokia 770 Internet Tablets: maemo 2.2 'gregale'.
This release supports development for the latest OS 2006 Software
Edition. Maemo 2.2 is based on the latest Scratchbox Apophis R4
cross-compilation environment.
For
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Release
Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'
I encountered the same error. Scratchbox seems to copy nsswitch.conf
from /etc/nsswitch.conf. See below for my changes on my Ubuntu Feisty
setup which solved the problem.
On 2/2/07, Ferenc Szekely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
We proudly announce that the new Application Catalog is officially
available at http://downloads.maemo.org. We kindly ask the developers to
start using the new catalog for registering applications, instead of the
wiki pages.
This is a
It looks like that's an update to the 770 not the 800. I don't know
whether whatever's been done here was incorporated into the latest
kernel for the N800 (and therefore this patch). I had several reboots
which I attributed to the patch whilst trying to test it with dd. I
reflashed with the
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Ferenc Szekely wrote:
Hello,
The maemo team proudly announce the newest development environment for
Nokia 770 Internet Tablets: maemo 2.2 'gregale'.
This release supports development for the latest OS 2006 Software
Edition. Maemo 2.2 is based on the latest Scratchbox
Quim,
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you don't have dev or developer somewhere in those
developer list names, they will be bothered with user
questions, and those users will then be dissatisfied with
being sent away. Descriptions aren't enough.
I was waiting some kind of
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 07:08:31PM +, Neil MacLeod wrote:
Neil MacLeod wrote:
is there more than one SDHC kernel floating around?
My bad, looking bad through the thread I see we are discussing the same
SDHC kernel referenced from ITT.
I stand by my concerns that it may be more
Hi, I've been playing around Fanoush's idea and MUST say it is a pretty cool
solution. Things are improving a lot. Before giving definitive results I
want to play with all weekend, but I can just say that performance speed has
increased substantially. I would say that it's almost doubled
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Murray Cumming wrote:
About the flags in the email subject, is this a problem? I can live
with/without them, no strong opinion here.
It's annoying to me.
And I depend on them to quickly find messages the SPAM filter accidently
tagged as spam (false positives). So please
No, please don't add it to bugzilla. Use the issue tracker at garage:
https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=106
This is a known issue by the way and we try to fix it asap.
I got this bug as well, and added a comment to the existing issue.
Ditto the login-redirect bug.
Other than that,
Aaron Levinson wrote:
It's great to see a new 2.x SDK release that runs on the same version of
scratchbox as the 3.0 SDK, but my main concern is will packages created
with the new SDK work on maemo 2.0 and 2.1 platforms? When the
2.1/scirocco SDK was released, because of auto-generated
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 10:11:19PM +0200, Ferenc Szekely wrote:
We proudly announce that the new Application Catalog is officially
available at http://downloads.maemo.org. We kindly ask the developers to
start using the new catalog for registering applications, instead of the
wiki pages.
Yay!
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Johan Bilien wrote:
Aaron Levinson wrote:
It's great to see a new 2.x SDK release that runs on the same version of
scratchbox as the 3.0 SDK, but my main concern is will packages created
with the new SDK work on maemo 2.0 and 2.1 platforms? When the
2.1/scirocco SDK
Nice job, looks great!
I've logged 329 in the tracker (clicking Application Catalog User Manual
prompt for a site cert then a username/password)
What is the relevance of the silver, orange and green vertical bars to the left
of each application? Is it green for OS 2007, orange for OS 2006 and
sebastian maemo wrote:
I'll write again in three days or so to give a definite opinion.
Salut.
Sebas.
Probably best if you start a new thread as your investigation is somewhat off
topic for this thread, thanks! :)
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Marius Gedminas wrote:
What does /proc/bootreason say?
mine says:
32wd_to
From the wiki:
Watchdog reset - something was consuming too much CPU causing a watchdog
reset, or kernel crashed
Thats bad eh?
BTW: My WLAN is on when this happens.
Jae
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