Dave, if you are here could you send me a note. I have some stuff i want to send you
privately. A weird discussion has developed over on the Russian moderatewr list
involving your organization, Aldolfo O among other things.
Bob Malecki
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1. Cliffite ISO/SWP squabble, What's going
on?
2. ISO liberals' "test of war" in the SWP/B
tradition. (David
Stevens)---
Well since the entire internal squabble between
the ISO/SWP
The entire 49 page internal squabble between the
American and English Cliffite organizations is now easily downloaded in a
zipfile at the homepage of Cockroach!
Just click on the link;
"The entire ISO/SWP squabble! " and download it and
read the entire sordid history in your browser...
The entire 49 page internal squabble between the
American and English Cliffite organizations is now easily downloaded in a
zipfile at the homepage of Cockroach!
Just click on the link;
"The entire ISO/SWP squabble! " and download it and
read the entire sordid history in your browser...
The entire 49 page internal squabble between the
American and English Cliffite organizations is now easily downloaded in a
zipfile at the homepage of Cockroach!
Just click on the link;
"The entire ISO/SWP squabble! " and download it and
read the entire sordid history in your browser...
Yeah rob,
But ya missing the implosion of the Cliffites as they begin to dance on Tony's
grave.Quite funny that the body is not even cold and they are using this media to
scratch each others eyes out. Anyhow I think at bottom of all this over and above
Cliff being dead is the "spirit of
up creates the same
scenario. So that leaves Africa open for a free for all by all.
Interestingly enough Africa because of its colonization history causes more problems
for core imperialist countries then let's say the wannabe Russia who needs to
consolidate its own position.
Cheers
Bob Maleck
of its colonization history causes more problems
for core imperialist countries then let's say the wannabe Russia who needs to
consolidate its own position.
Cheers
Bob Malecki
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From: Jim heartfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 14,
The entire 49 page internal squabble between the
American and English Cliffite organizations is now easily downloaded in a
zipfile at the homepage of Cockroach!
Just click on the link;
"The entire ISO/SWP squabble! " and download it and
read the entire sordid history in your browser...
visit to London was what is going on in Germany?
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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the book!
Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my Crystalball!
and "Radiotime"-the Book!
Now th
Jeff wrote
So I suppose the question here is how do we avoid repeating the scenario and
instituting one regime with another, how do we avoid throwing out the
bourgoisie and merely replacing them with another ruling class "in the name
of the workers" which becomes more attached to
Jeff writes,
I guess I'm not really sure what I'm asking for here in terms of a response.
I suppose what I'd be interested in hearing about from anyone reading this,
either here or in e-mail, is your response to this sort of description, from
a Marxist viewpoint, obviously, of the role
xample the spring budget is talking about cuts in the social
sector connected to quite a lot of anti immigrant "reforms" that would make even
Haider proud of the present coalition government of the Social Democrats, the ex Euro
Communists and the Greens.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
mp section of the english left and
Livingstone which passes in to the present discussion on this subject here at thaxis.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
Andrew send the below to me a day after he sent it to asps and obviously wants a
reply. So below is my reply..
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S
Ah George,
Which came first the egg or the chicken? In this case the "commodity" or "industrial
capital". I would say the commodity thus laying the basis for the later industrial
capital.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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From: George Pennefat
Still around Bill. Just lurking.Been very busy on the local level both with the
fascist stuff and in fact speaking tour. Over and above this shoveling enormous
amounts of snow! And my third book will soon be ready!
Sorry if I have been ignoring you all.
So of late i see on numerous lists
I saw today your defense of the Vietnamese Stalinists Chris and thought
about recent events in Ireland. Well, what have ya got to say now? About
Stormont and the fake peace process.
In fact the old term "I told you so" comes to mind.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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world markets and the need of redividing the booty. Despite
the IT bubble.
That is the short version. Any takers on this stuff.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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the book!
Ha Ha Ha McNamara
rOB WRITES...
Well, we've already talked about Rwanda '91-'95. If Burundi is
irrevocably
on that terrible path, I favour the same sort of intervention as the
Guardian was calling for from the starter's hatchet in Rwanda.
Well, when we look at Africa it must be in the context of the
Nice piece. Except one must take up China in all of this and not in the
least the growing inter-imperialist rivalry with Japan..
Bob
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Subject: Re: M-TH: Re: "Kosova revisionists let NATO off the hook"
Date: den 24 januari 2000 14:21
with imperialism ..
So no you don´t convince me. Espoecially when at best your are trying to
reform trhe foreign policy of the little rascist imperialists Australian
ruling class aND ITS HISTORICAL BLOOD SOAKED HANDS WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN
COMPLETELY SILENT ABOUT.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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.
This is garbage George. And playing with words. A capitalist state or nation just did
not appear by saying poof. Foir example the first American revolution marxists took
sides. Just as in the Civil War we took sides.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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k the 1905, the first world war to get to February and a Bolshevik
Party to make October.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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As there isn't any Bolshevik-Leninist to vote so we have to vote for what we have.
Of course we don't support Manner as a Stalinist but because his work for example
in the Finnish workers revolution. Also we want to show that Communism/Marxism
didn't
die with Stalinism.
Comradely;
s question.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:41:20 -, "Geoff Collier"
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wrote:
Now you have more time can you
update us on your local fascist problem ?Geoff
Sure! Um in the last ten years or so the fascists
here in Sweden have become quite a small but formidable force through white
power
ar better then our "leftists"
on thaxis debatting something that the kids don't even remember.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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See a fray has broken out on this
stuff.
From here lots of pictures about demos and martial
law. But what is the politics of all this stuff. I see glimpses of protectionism
as being the bottom line in all of this. And a bit of green hysteria. So I tend
to think that Hugh is over
Holy shit , Bob !
Charles
Well Maria and I got to go to the teachers conference yesterday. And we scared the
shit out of them. Over and above the discussion on the problems we are facing (showing
music,t-shirts and Nazi symbols we have been seeing of late) with this stuff I took up
the
Doug writes..
And it's so inspiring to hear of the revolutionary mobilization in
Umeå - the first stirrings of that old Death Agony, perhaps?
Doug
Still as cynical as ever I see Doug. The last big radicalization in Sweden also
started here in the north. This has its historical reasons
Well, There has been a big to do here this last couple of days. On top of a big strike
and getting my job extended for another year there is the growing problem of new
nazism here in this commune. We have a group of kids who have been getting very
interested in white power music. And since
This was sent to asps today. Thought people here would be interested..It also gives
another picture then those who support globalization...
bob
The battle for Mannesmann: the background to Germany's first hostile
take-over
By Peter Schwarz
25 November 1999
World Socialist Web-Site
Ian blurps out!
Reminding everybody that he defends this utopian bullshit of Mezaro which is
completely outside of history and class struggle that appears to be trendy in certain
parts of the left today. And I agree with Hugh that this is not new but based in early
Russian anarchism. Allbut
Rob writes!
Hi again, Bob,
What did ya do turn on the tele or look in your cristalball to predict this?
You want a crystal ball? A few weeks down the track Grosny will be a hole
in the ground, Moscow will have reluctantly agreed to Wasington's 'moral'
pleas to withdraw their
Germans here who can give us the picture..
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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Chris interestling writes.
On the main theoretical difference between Dave and Bob, I am alarmed to
find myself agreeing with both of them. Rather than argue however between
Russia as a developing imperialist state or as a colony, I would like to
suggest a formula I heard at a seminar on
Rob writes..
G'day Thaxists,
I don't think it matters whether trying to hang on to the prizes of past
expansionism constitutes an act of imperialism today or not, really. I
reckon we might be missing the point of all this!
Um which prizes? And I think the point is the permanent
G'day Bob,
Doug's probably fast asleep just now, so here's an interesting piece he
posted on his list the other day. I'd be interested in Thaxist views on
this meself.
Cheers,
Rob.
Well this stuff seems to confirm what the economists are putting out very politely
these days as a
Rob writes...
Well, they might call it a win in the sense that NATO's silly slaughter in
Yugoslavia got carded as a win, I s'pose. There, as here, the actual
military campaign itself soon (and predictably) reached the point of
publicly apparent untenability, and an intrusion from outside
Dave replies...
D
We've had this one out many times Bob. By any measure, Russia is not
imperialist. It is poor, and while not little is it getting smaller.
It is a restored former workers' state whose economy is virtually
collapsed. The methodology is Lenin and Trotsky. Imperialism
I thought it quite interesting that here lately economists have been warning about the
IT marketplace connected to the crash in 29. How much of this "boom" is based on all
the speculation in this market?
And can it lead to a new 1929 Doug?
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
---
But the key question is hardly your arguement that Russia must be defended
against imperialism because it is a semi colony. But the workers must fight for its
defeat and a new socxial revolution..
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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rtacist" button and then the "Spartacist" button
once again and that will get you there!
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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download the book!
Ha Ha Ha McNamara,Vietnam-My Bellybutton is my
Crystalball!
Nice post except for this!
I don't reckon you do
that with programmes and small revolutionary parties (not in the west,
anyway). You do that with strategy, not tactics. Compromise, not purity.
Uniting on basic principles, not dismembering ourselves on arcana. Analysis
of the historical
Well I am hardly with Dave or Chris on this stuff. Positive to self determination but
defeatist between Moscow and the Islamic Fundamentalists. However Rob raises and
interesting question in that the west who have "supported" Yeltsin in lack of anything
else now are faced with a real dilema.
politicans and politics in general.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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From: Bullimore / Kim Maree (COM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 2:40 AM
Subject: M-TH: Republic (and preamble) defeated...
Although the final count is not in - due
Thousands Come Out to Stop Klan Terror
Labor/Black Mobilization Rides KKK Out of NYC
New Yorkers came out in their thousands on October 23 determined to make sure the KKK
didn't ride in their city. They were mobilized by the call initiated by the Partisan
Defense Committee, "All Out to Stop'
Regards
Bob Malecki
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Dave writes!
What do you mean? DOn't you understand even the most elementary thing
about imperialism, that it is the main enemy, and when it attacks a
semi-colony we defend the semi-colony, even to the extent of
militarily blocking with the national bourgeoisie, maintaining the
armed
East Timor Independence Now!
All Indonesian and All UN Imperialist Troops Out Now!
SYDNEY, September 27-In the largest Australian military operation since the
Vietnam War, thousands of troops with tanks, armoured personnel carriers and
helicopters are now occupying tiny, impoverished East
iew as pure utopia. The preparation for
revolution demands a simultaneous break not only with the bourgeois radicals
but, as we already know, also with the democratic reformists in the working
class itself."
-"The Comintern's Liquidation
Congress" (August 1935)
Warm regards
Bob M
[Bob
Malecki]Forwarding this from the WIVL which gives quite a bit of info on
South Africa.
Bob
FORWARD TO AN INDEFINITE GENERAL
STRIKE!
WORKERS, FORCE THE COSATU LEADERSHIP TO
IMMEDIATELY SET THE DATE!
BREAK THE ALLIANCE WITH THE CAPITALIST ANC
AND SACP NOW!
The scene is set
dam thing can explode in a new
depression. In fact the whole industry is like a fish without guts in
regards to the real world..
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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Here is the article on Indonesia Kim...I send it to the list because a lot
of people here need to be reminded of the political role these people
represent despite some of the heroic efforts on the parts of individuals..
if the table manners are not
up to your requirements. Perhaps a more discreet charm is your style!
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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en in 1999 to be treated as sub-human and
so much as property. Equality and human decency is a RIGHT not a freedom,
whether one lives in Afghanistan or elsewhere.
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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ause of the historical betrayals of just the Social
democracy and Stalinism.
The point is not to do a rehash of this stuff once again.But to change it.
Warm regards
bob Malecki
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tarted the god damed Spart baiting with his letter aqainst the oh so
horrible Sparts. So he gets and eye for and eye answer with the "cretin"
comment. In fact his first letter to the list was certainly to me a foaming
at the mouth anti Spart diatribe so kiss my tushi on his "restrained
Indonesian workers in this caSE HAVE NOTHING TO
LOSE BUT THEIR CHAINS AND DECADES OF LEADErSHIP THAT HAS LEAD THEM DOWN THE
ROAD OF ONE BETRAYAL AND ONE DEFEAT AFTER THE OTHER.
wARM REGARDS
Bob Malecki
Below is the letter I sent out to Usenet in reply to the gyrations of
Straight Facts on
the
contributions of the ICL on interpenetrating peoples.
Warm
Regards
Bob
Malecki
-Ursprungligt meddelande-Från:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]För George
PennefatherSkickat: Monday, September 13, 1999 11:24
PMTill: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Ämne: M-TH:
East Timor
Hi Folks
perialism just never will work and that super exploitation today
comes in the form of demolishing the so called welfare states in favor of
preparations for the next round of wars.
Super exploitation which could delay a new World War will never prevent it.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
Strikes Against Layoffs,Austerity
South African Workers vs. ANC Capitalist Government
For A Black-Centered Workers Government!
JOHANNESBURG, August 28-The past month has seen the largest and most
significant labour struggle in South Africa since the white-supremacist
regime was replaced in 1994
hese systems now being implemented.
We have nothing to lose but our chains!
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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http://www.delphi.com/workwelfare
Why don't we start our
own fucking list without the apologies?Hi BarbaraSure! How about
"Workfare/Welfare International" and working out a list statement with
objectives for discussion.Will send this to a few places to see if thier is
interest in getting this started and we will have and
Why don't we start our
own fucking list without the apologies?Hi BarbaraSure! How about
"Workfare/Welfare International" and working out a list statement with
objectives for discussion.Will send this to a few places to see if thier is
interest in getting this started and we will have and
Not bad at all George. I think
...
Bob
Rob in reply to John..
G'day John,
Maybe my memory plays me false, but I thought so vast a majority of the
combined Irish population wanted an end to the killing that any notion of a
genuinely socialist armed struggle in the here and now is untenable.
Well, who would not oppose and end
list trash as the obstacle they are to our common future.
Warm regards
bob Malecki
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test!
Please ignore!
Bob
- Ursprungligt meddelande -
Från:
George
Pennefather
Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skickat: Monday, August 02, 1999 2:13
PM
Ämne: Re: M-TH: Fw: Republican Movement
GFA
Jim Heartfield: But thetruth is that the reactionary catholic
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg
Butterfield
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 2:51 PM
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Subject: M-NEWS: URGENT message from MOVE
From: Prison Radio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MOVE RELEASE
At 5:00 Monday morning, June
I got the papers from Bipnet for the "Thaxis" page. I signed it and sent in
back too them so we can download to the page in a couple of days. Who is it
that gets the codes so they can use FTP to the site? Or should Russ just
send me the page and I download it?
The page should naturally be put
text where the poeble
certainly would not see the irony. More likely believe it along with all the orther
bullshit being said.
'Besides this I don't like smart asses that use double talk to oppose something. If
this was the case?
warm regards
bob Malecki
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From: Rob Sch
via.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 7:07 AM
Subject: M-TH: Why Kosovan Talks Broke Down!
Dear Comrades,
So many on the left and so many Marxists give a strong impression of
being in ta
link
between theory and practice.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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mogul shopping up the rights of International sport events like football.
One of the reasons given was that they needed these rights not so much for Europe but
their Asian satelite markets.
Now what could all this mean?
What are we missing?
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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So we've won the war, have we?
Who's we? And what has this rightwing social patriotic garbage to do with "Marx on
Gold"?
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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Now Bob, isn't it only fair that you should put up a link to my response to
WV's idiocies? After all, I've got a link to your critique, your homepage,
and your memoir!
Doug
Doug, I'll do even better. Send me the document and I will put it up and link it from
the same page as the "Wall
Hej here is and origanal view we have not seen yet. Followers of Envar Hoxa and Stalin!
Bob
Call! Call! Call! To all ! To all ! To all !
Proletarians of all countries and oppressed peoples - what does
Proletarian
ian troops or
Swedish troops!
In fact in those countries where the partership for peace stuff is implemented we
should be arguing that they break with NATO..
Warm regards
Bob malecki
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that this is a worth while cause.
Besides if we wait around for the perfect organization with all the correct positions.
Well nothing willl be solved nor any help given..
Warm Regards
Bob Malecki
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Jim,
Filled in the empty spaces..
Bob
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:39:49 +0200
From: "Bob Malecki" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: M-TH: Re: paragraph on Balkans
Jim replies to Dave!
Without wanting to sound too sectarian there were a few points in the
repy which don't seem to
. (South Africa, Zaire, central and Latin america)
What appears to be clear as the crisis of imperialism deepens into white heat that
many leftists appear to be crossing the Rubicon ..The MWG despite its incredible
workerist opportunism say that we are in a sense heading towards a new Zimmerwald.
They may be correct!
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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s the left wing of
the Social Democratic Party. They oppose the bombings and call on the United Nations
to solve the problem. The USec is pulling a workers aid to the Kosovars much like the
Workers aid to Bosnia and fundamentally a left cover of imperialist intentions in the
area..
Warm regards
B
must be for the defat of their *own*
bourgeoisie. However at present communists do take sides when the guns come
out and that is why we defend Serbia against imperialist attack. Naturally
realizing that only workers revolution can really defeat imperialism.
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
Rob writes
I propose we each put in one paragraph ..
Well I got it down to three short ones where what is going on in the former Yugoslavia
fits right in!
Bob
History speaks its verdicts loudly. The ascendancy of counterrevolution in the former
USSR is an unparalleled defeat for
Bob,
A long version below.
Charles
I would bye a lot of this as background to the intensive and growing inter-imperialist
rvalry. And it ain't just oil, transit routes and IT. But markets and spheres of
influence after the demise of the world after Malta.
This also plays into what
Sorry dave for the late reply. But this has been a really insane week here!
Reply to Dave...
History speaks its verdicts loudly. The ascendancy of counterrevolution in the former
USSR is an unparalleled defeat for working people all over the world, decisively
altering the political landscape
Carl Bildt is considered the crown prince of Helmut Kohl in the conservative
international. He also since the beginning of the war objected to the cowboys in the
west and supports and occupation along the lines of the Russians and foremost the
Germans..
Bob
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Ämne: ATTACK ON CHINESE EMBASSY and other civilian facilities
Info lista Nove komunisticke parije Jugoslavije - http://members.tripod.com/nkpj/
ATTACK ON CHINESE EMBASSY!
NATO planes attacked Embassy of People's Republic of China on Friday, just
before midnight. According to first
Michael wrote..
Bob, source please for the DSA quote. I heard Bogdan Denitch
on NPR and know he can sling polemics as well as anyone but the
language sounds a bit false still. On the LEFT-L list early in this
imperialist barbeque there were some spirited to and fro between
"humanitarian
ussians or Germans and the Americans are willing to take at
this time. And don't forget the Japanese...
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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In reply to my reply to Hans Jim writes..
God forbid that any actual facts should intrude into Bob's world.
Someone is arrested and Bob 'X-files' Malecki immediately assumes that
the police have invented this suspect to cover up the nazis. (And, no
doubt, Kennedy was killed by the FBI because
hich
leads them unfortunately in the wrong direction. Both before the destruction of the SU
and after...
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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Bob Malecki wrote:
I bet! Being that reports here last night were talking about "citizen
militias" to defend themselves. No wonder the cops came up with a "lone"
suspect! Think if Jim had tried to link up this with some militant trade
unions rather then pushing
ot;human rights" propaganda in Yugoslavia being and extremely good example of how
the masses can be fooled into supporting and imperialist solution to the crisis in
another bloodbath..
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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Jim heartfield
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Hugh replies to Jim...
Interesting. Which war is supposed to be unjust -- NATO preventing Kosova
from self-determination, or Serbia doing the same thing??
I see, Hugh is saying that he does not take sides in this stuff.
Or perhaps I just got it all wrong, and it's the Kosovars who are
mperialism..
Another interesting thing is the recent German iniative to create and all European
occupation force of Kosovo. So the united facade of imperialism is beginning to split
at the seams..
Warm regards
Bob Malecki
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