Re: [MBZ] a/c no worky

2009-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey

As a first guess, I'd say that the windings on the compressor clutch
magnet might be shorted (at least partially). You could get the
pulley/clutch assembly off a salvage yard car and try it.


Parts out in the moving/vibrating/oil-covered/dirty end of
things experience failures.  Clutch coils, wires and connectors
to the same, etc.  Look over that stuff carefully, from the
clutch on back (through pressure switch, etc.)

Or it could be the horn, or anything else sharing the fuse.
The trick is to diagnose what blows it.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD

2009-10-13 Thread dave walton
I did it at 180,000 miles. Just replaced the one rod. I now attribute
the bent rod to hydrolock in that cylinder due to failure of the head
gasket that allowed oil to enter the cylinder (oil-lock?). Given that
the piston protrudes from the head when at the top of it's stroke and
compress everything down to less than the thickness of the head
gasket, just a bit of oil seeping in could really mess things up. At
first I thought I had a turbo failure. If I had pulled the head right
away rather than screwing around with the turbo, it probably would
have been fine.

I played around with a dial indicator to try to measure roundness, but
did not detect anything significant. That was probably due to a
combination of user-error and cheap tools. All the cross hatches
looked fine.

The guy that told me about replacing #1 and #6 was a tech at a GM
dealership. 50/50 chance he was full of it.

-Dave Walton


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 Did you replace number one and number 6?  Or just 1?  Were your cylinders
 ovalled at all?  How many miles were on the engine?  Maybe I caught mine in
 time before it really trashed the bottom end.

 dave walton wrote:

 The replacement rod did not have tabs to allow easy weight adjustment.
 It is significantly heaver than the original. I've since been told
 that as long as #1 and #6 are balanced, it's okay if they are heaver
 than the others. I'd want to very that somehow, but replacing the two
 rods would save some grief. The dealer said if they did the job, they
 would replace all the rods. I was not in the mood to spend $1k to
 replace good parts at the time. But you could probably recoup some of
 your investment selling the good old ones on eBay :-)

 Once the rod was replaced, the piston extended above the block like
 all the others.

 Put some bar stock on the block across the cylinder opening. Use 2
 magnetic bases. Mount the dial gauge between them on a crosspiece. Set
 the gauge to zero on top of the bar in the middle. Highest reading
 when the crank is rotated gives you a comparison number which relates
 to connecting rod length.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 I did not see any way to drop the oil pan with the engine in the car.
 The front frame is directly under where you want to get to and can't
 be removed (without a torch or plasma cutter). If anyone knows how to
 avoid pulling the engine, please speak up.

 Once you get the oil pan off you can access the lower end of the
 connecting rod to replace it without pulling the crank.

 The transmission and engine come out as a unit.

 You will need a 2-ton shop crane. To access the center of gravity of
 the engine/transmission unit you need to extend the arm to it's
 maximum. The lift capacity goes down as the arm length goes up. Even
 with the Harbor Freight 2-ton crane maxed, the lift cylinder wanted to
 hit against the front bumper. If I had to do it again, I'd use a
 gantry crane on wheels.

 I was quoted $140 from the dealer for the replacement rod. They
 charged me $190 when it came in.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:


 If I wanted to replace that one rod, I would have to pull the crank and
 everything wouldnt I?
 Mitch Haley wrote:


 Loren Faeth wrote:


 IMHO, you have a problem with a bent rod on #1.  It is bent enough so
 that I predict a short life after the engine is running again , if you
 don't
 address the #1 rod at least.  Seems to me what you describe is in the
 neighborhood of 0.010 inch or so, (maybe more) and that is a problem.



 I concur. If five pistons stand proud of the block, and one piston is
 recessed, and you can detect that by feel, there's something wrong with
 that
 one cylinder.
 When you add to that the fact that the most worn cylinder is the same
 one
 with the short rod, and it's the cylinder that's famous for bending its
 rod,
 I'd say replace that rod and hope you caught it quick enough so that
 cylinder still seals ok. If one cylinder out of six makes 95% of the
 power
 of the others, the engine as a whole shouldn't run too badly.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts

2009-10-13 Thread LarryT

Thx Pter -
   Very informative -  will call Rusty if I need to order them.  I will 
check condition to be sure.  I know they are not leaking but the measurement 
will tell.  If I need to change them it sounds like a god idea to soak the 
fasteners with some penetrating oil.  A shooting friend gave me a 1/2 quart 
(!!) of Kroil which should do the trick.


   Thx agn for the info -

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts


Much easier than the old ones.

Chief difficulties are access to the top bolt and dropping the lower 
hexhead into the frame while installing.


Loosen top and bottom bolts -- on the diesel, the right side is a  pain 
since the mount is under the turbo and is only accessable from  underneath 
with a flex-head ratchet, and it's usually also stuck.   Lower bolts 
require dropping the lower sound encapsulation panel  (usually one piece 
on the gassers, two on the diesel, and both have  to come out).


Jack engine, remove both bolts and remove heat shield and mount.  New 
mount will usually be somewhat taller than the old one, so jack the 
engine some more.  Mounts are keyed into the engine carrier.  Start 
bottom bolt first, then top bolt.  Helps to leave some slack so you  can 
move then around, and it's usually easier to get both bolts  started while 
underneath.  This is required on the W201 as you cannot  access the top 
bolt from above.  Screw bottom bolt up lightely, lower  jack, tighten both 
bolts fully.  Remember to put the heat shield back  where it was.


On the gasser, you may have to remove the bottom bolt on the left  side 
and jack the engine up quite a bit to reach the top bolt, as  it's under 
the intake and when the mounts are really flat, it's quite  difficult to 
get a wrench on it, even with a 2' extension!  Fairly  easy to reach when 
new.


Easy to check condition, too -- if there is less than 3/4 inch or so 
between the bottom of the hemispherical part's lower edge and the  frame, 
or you find thick fluid leaking out, they are shot.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D shocks again

2009-10-13 Thread LarryT
I bought a set of 4 left hand drills just for that occasion - although I'm 
in no hurry to try them out. ;-)   But it's just a matter of time.


LarryT
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D shocks again


Dimitri,

Been there done that have the t-shirt.  Don't worry, this kind of
twist-off is the best kind and usually easy to remove.  When I started
to drill a hole in the center of mine for the easy-out, it started to
move in the hole.  Using a punch on the outer edge, at a ridge resulting
from the twist-off, I was able to make it turn lefty-lucy so that it
came out of the hole, and then I re-used one of the old screws.

At least give it a try, it may come right out.

Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 6:08 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D shocks again

Rubber bushings are now the least of my worries. I over torqued one of
the lower mounting bolts and it sheared in the lower control arm hole.
Yes, I am a dumba$$ thank you. Off to my mechanic it goes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
wrote:


Well I got front shock off and now not sure about reinstallation.
New bilstein has rubber bushings on top and one below tower.  The one
below is inside the rubber skirt/sleeve thing but the new shock is not



pre-assembled with the lower bushing inside the rubber sleeve. Can I
just put both above the tower or should I do otherwise?




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Re: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card

2009-10-13 Thread LarryT
Take a look at www.creditcards.com to find the best rates, best FF miles, 
etc. -


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Subject: [MBZ] Fraudulent Credit Card


My apologies to the international folks getting this, but you might have
similar situations where you are.



I got a notice today from Juniper Bank [now Barclay's Bank Delaware - a UK
based bank] thanking me for alerting them to the fraudulent account opened
in my name, and making sure I had not authorized a card from them [I 
assume

from the credit alert I put on our accounts].  The card # they had traced
back to me.  A call from Virgin America about unusual activity on my 
account
did alert me [there was a gas purchase on the card in Pompano Beach] and 
the

account is now closed.  Virgin America was the issuer of the card through
Barclay.  I am a bit upset that Virgin America [who called me] then told 
me

that they had not called me, and that I had no account with them.

Not a bad idea to put the three month alert on yourself with the credit
agencies.  Experian was the one I .contacted, and they connected with the
other two agencies for me.  No charge for that.  I have the 3 month 
reminder

in my calendar, and plan to renew the alert every three months.  Yes, I
guess it can happen to anyone.

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Re: [MBZ] At the other end of the CL spectrum, $700 1984 190D manual 5 speed transmission

2009-10-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I'm tempted, but I wouldn't part this out.  The only motor Kaleb has is in a 
complete running car that I can't take the time/money to go get.  Also, I 
really don't need another project right now.

Max

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Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 7:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] At the other end of the CL spectrum, $700 1984 190D manual 5 
speed transmission

Then get right down there and get it...

I'm not going 1400 miles for a parts car ;)

-Curt

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:02:46 -0400
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,    53310
    meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At the other end of the CL spectrum,    $700 1984 190D
    manual 5 speed transmission
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I think the lady would sell it for less to the first person who shows up with 
cash.

Max 

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Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:52 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] At the other end of the CL spectrum,$700 1984 190D manual 5 
speed transmission

I've got $200 ready for the diff... I'm sure you could get $500 out of the rest 
of the car...

I've gotten to the point where I'm ready to buy a parts car...

-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

2009-10-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
They also have a sale on M1 synthetic, I think it is $30 for six quarts
plus a Bosch oil filter.  Isn't the Bosch oil filter a bad one?  I
remember Marshall saying that the Bosh fuel filter was not as good as
the other German/Austrian filters.

Max 

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Subject: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

Oriellys has a sale on delvac 1300 right now, buy 1 gal at $12.99, get
one free.  Great deal if you dont use synthetic.
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Re: [MBZ] Wind tunnels

2009-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
In summers in college I had internships at NASA Langley, the first 
summer I worked in the Hypersonic Research Division, we had 3 or 4 
hypersonic blow-down tunnels that worked by sucking air through the 
tunnel into these huge vacuum spheres that were pumped down between 
runs.  It would take an hour or two to pump them down and the run time 
was like 30 seconds or less, depending, but enough time to get some good 
data (the crunching of which was my job, ugh).  I did learn a LOT about 
programming in Fortran on CDC Cyber computers (or rather, understanding 
the error dumps when the programs crashed), which made me almost an 
expert in debugging when I got back to school.  I actually designed a 
few little pieces of equipment that were still sitting around in the lab 
the last time I visited a few years later, probably still there.


It was kinda fun being around a bunch of old-time engineers who smoked 
like chimneys and cussed like sailors while working on some really cool 
stuff.


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Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

2009-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I stopped by O'R yesterday, they had the Mobil non-synth for $1.99 and 
that deal with a filter, though at El Mercado de Wal, a 5qt jug of M1 
was $21 and an AC filter at O'R was like $3.


--R

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

They also have a sale on M1 synthetic, I think it is $30 for six quarts
plus a Bosch oil filter.  Isn't the Bosch oil filter a bad one?  I
remember Marshall saying that the Bosh fuel filter was not as good as
the other German/Austrian filters.

Max 


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Subject: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

Oriellys has a sale on delvac 1300 right now, buy 1 gal at $12.99, get
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Re: [MBZ] Wind tunnels

2009-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
And at the top left in this pic you can see the vac spheres (a little 
larger than the spheres on the 123 wagon) of the hypersonic wind tunnels


http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-351670-19.html

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Rich Thomas wrote:
In summers in college I had internships at NASA Langley, the first 
summer I worked in the Hypersonic Research Division, we had 3 or 4 
hypersonic blow-down tunnels that worked by sucking air through the 
tunnel into these huge vacuum spheres that were pumped down between 
runs.  It would take an hour or two to pump them down and the run time 
was like 30 seconds or less, depending, but enough time to get some 
good data (the crunching of which was my job, ugh).  I did learn a LOT 
about programming in Fortran on CDC Cyber computers (or rather, 
understanding the error dumps when the programs crashed), which made 
me almost an expert in debugging when I got back to school.  I 
actually designed a few little pieces of equipment that were still 
sitting around in the lab the last time I visited a few years later, 
probably still there.


It was kinda fun being around a bunch of old-time engineers who smoked 
like chimneys and cussed like sailors while working on some really 
cool stuff.


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Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

2009-10-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I just checked the O'reilly ad, M1 deal is 5 qts plus Mobil oil filter
for $30.  Isn't the jug of the 5w-40 turbo diesel at WW only a 4 qt?  I
just bought two of those jugs.

Max 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

I stopped by O'R yesterday, they had the Mobil non-synth for $1.99 and
that deal with a filter, though at El Mercado de Wal, a 5qt jug of M1
was $21 and an AC filter at O'R was like $3.

--R

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
 They also have a sale on M1 synthetic, I think it is $30 for six 
 quarts plus a Bosch oil filter.  Isn't the Bosch oil filter a bad one?

 I remember Marshall saying that the Bosh fuel filter was not as good 
 as the other German/Austrian filters.

 Max

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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 Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List; davesl...@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

 Oriellys has a sale on delvac 1300 right now, buy 1 gal at $12.99, get

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[MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1414453871.html


  
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[MBZ] Is my transmission dying?

2009-10-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Finally had time to change filter and fluid in my '87 300TD.  It started
shifting funny a few weeks ago, I adjusted the Bowden cable which cured
a lot of that but the shifts were still a little uncertain at WOT.  So,
got the kit from Rusty/Gary and 7 qts M1 ATF at AutoZone and did the
deed yesterday.

In the bottom of the pan was a very small amount of black sediment, had
to look closely to see it, evenly distributed all over the pan.  I
changed the ATF 20k miles ago, put in M1 ATF then, and transmission
behavior gradually improved over the first 10k miles.  Is this sediment
a sign of pending death, normal, or the result of the M1 cleaning
action?

Shifting is back to normal now.  The 1-2 shift at WOT is the only fault,
it always happens early at 3500 RPM.  Shifts are a little soft by MB
standards, I may try to firm them up.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 315k miles
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Curt Raymond wrote:

http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1414453871.html


Finally, a Mog advert that actually is selling a Unimog.

I bet you could haul a lot of groceries on that flatbed.
Which is good, because you probably don't want to drive to the store very often 
in that thing ;-)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

I just checked the O'reilly ad, M1 deal is 5 qts plus Mobil oil filter
for $30.  Isn't the jug of the 5w-40 turbo diesel at WW only a 4 qt?  I
just bought two of those jugs.


Sounds just like the deal Advance Auto had last month. M1 filter (or 8.99 off a 
filter priced over 8.99) and five quarts of M1 for $29.99.
Last I knew, the turbo diesel M1 at W-mart was 4 qts for a bit over $20 and the 
other non-extended M1 was five quarts for a similar price. If you have a vehicle 
that you want a M1 filter for, the package works out OK.
I usually buy Hengst from Rusty for the mbz and stock up on PureOne Purolators 
for the Achieva from Amazon when there's a rebate.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Wind tunnels

2009-10-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:08:31 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 And at the top left in this pic you can see the vac spheres (a little 
 larger than the spheres on the 123 wagon) of the hypersonic wind tunnels
 
 http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-351670-19.html

Uh ...  yeah ... just a little larger than the spheres on a 123 wagon!


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Mac Snow Leopard bug

2009-10-13 Thread archer
Apparently, Snow Leopard (aka Mac OS X 10.6) has a habit of wiping out home 
directories when a user logs in to a Guest account following an upgrade 
from Apple's previous operating system: just Leopard (aka Mac OS X 10.5). 
Typically carrying the name of the user, the home directory includes all the 
standard user file folders, including Documents, Downloads, Music, Picture, 
and more.


I had the Guest account enabled on my MacBook Pro, one user wrote on 
September 3, just after the release of Snow Leopard. I accidentally clicked 
on that when I went to log in. It took a few minutes to log in, then after I 
had logged out of that account and back into mine, my [entire] home 
directory had been wiped. All of doc, music, etc. gone.


Another user was hit just this weekend. No!!! This morning I had access 
to Guest Account and than all my data were lost!!! he wrote. I had 250GB 
of data without backup and I lost everything: years and years of documents, 
pictures, video, music!!! Is it possible to recover something? Please help 
me..snip


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Snow Leopard bug

2009-10-13 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:20 AM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Apparently, Snow Leopard (aka Mac OS X 10.6) has a habit of wiping out home
 directories when a user logs in to a Guest account following an upgrade
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Moral: Never buy version 1 of anything.

Alex Chamberlain
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[MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
This looks pretty cool:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html

Adapted for auto use, could be used to replace the radiator cooling fan
and the HVAC fan, probably save weight and increase reliability.  

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 315k miles
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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
 This looks pretty cool:

 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html

 Adapted for auto use, could be used to replace the radiator cooling fan
 and the HVAC fan, probably save weight and increase reliability.


First person to figure out how to replace the blower fan in a 114 with
one of these will be rich beyond his wildest dreams!  ;)

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

This looks pretty cool:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html



What pulls the air up through the tower, a bladed fan, an air pump, or some kind 
of magic?



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas

Interesting, but a bit spendy.

--R

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

This looks pretty cool:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html

Adapted for auto use, could be used to replace the radiator cooling fan
and the HVAC fan, probably save weight and increase reliability.  


Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 315k miles
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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yes, perfect for those green-car type folks who want 60+ mpg but all the
modern luxuries.  

I suspect the price will drop once the Chinese get their factories
tooled up.  Patents, we don't need no stinkin' patents!

Max 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

Interesting, but a bit spendy.

--R

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
 This looks pretty cool:

 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html

 Adapted for auto use, could be used to replace the radiator cooling 
 fan and the HVAC fan, probably save weight and increase reliability.

 Very respectfully,
 /s/
 LCDR Max Dillon
 '87 300TD 315k miles
 Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Its in the next town over, I may go check it out just to say I did...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:58:02 -0400
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Curt Raymond wrote:
 http://worcester.craigslist.org/cto/1414453871.html

Finally, a Mog advert that actually is selling a Unimog.

I bet you could haul a lot of groceries on that flatbed.
Which is good, because you probably don't want to drive to the store very often 
in that thing ;-)

Mitch.


  
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Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Autozone regularly has the 5qt and a filter deal, usually $25-$29. I get it 
anytime I see it, they don't stock MB filters so I get one for the Ranger. When 
I get the oil changed in the Ranger its $5 off because I bring the filter. 
Autozone gives me $20 for every 5 (IIRC) $20 purchases so its actually a pretty 
good deal.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:21:23 -0400
From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,    53310
    meade.m.dil...@navy.mil
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Good deal on Delvac 1300
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I just checked the O'reilly ad, M1 deal is 5 qts plus Mobil oil filter
for $30.  Isn't the jug of the 5w-40 turbo diesel at WW only a 4 qt?  I
just bought two of those jugs.

Max 


  
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[MBZ] Hey Mitch!

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-chevette-diesel_W0QQitemZ140350668793QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item20ad8d3ff9

-Curt



  
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[MBZ] If this were closer I'd buy it

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-Chevy-Luv-Isuzu-Diesel-4x4_W0QQitemZ260489516266QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ca66294ea

These can't be common...
Its too expensive but I bet if you walked in with $800 it'd sell.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread WILTON

A bladed fan.

Wilton

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Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

This looks pretty cool:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html



What pulls the air up through the tower, a bladed fan, an air pump, or 
some kind of magic?



Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Snow Leopard bug

2009-10-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Hopefully not gone, but in some lost directory somewhere.  

This sort of thing is fairly unusual for Apple, most times there are not major 
oops sorta things in a released version, but I suppose anything is possible.

Do a file search, it may all be there somewhere strange.

Peter

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Sent: Oct 13, 2009 11:11 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Snow Leopard bug

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:20 AM, archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 Apparently, Snow Leopard (aka Mac OS X 10.6) has a habit of wiping out home
 directories when a user logs in to a Guest account following an upgrade
 from Apple's previous operating system: just Leopard (aka Mac OS X 10.5).

Moral: Never buy version 1 of anything.

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] a/c no worky

2009-10-13 Thread Karl Wittnebel
The problem seems to be directly related to the use of the A/C. If I don't use 
the A/C, the horn will be fine for months. So I doubt the horn is the culprit 
per se.
I'm no genius when it comes to checking for shorts; do I just put a voltmeter 
on the powered wire and look for zero ohms resistance?
Thanks,K 



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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c no worky
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 4:22 PM

Any chance the problem is in the horn circuitry, or even the contacts/wiring in 
the steering column?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] a/c no worky

2009-10-13 Thread Rich Thomas
You could probably do that from the power line to the horn (disconnect 
it first) and see if you are getting a low resistance without pushing 
the horn, then push the horn and see if you get a change in resistance, 
then switch to volts and see if you are getting any voltage to the horn 
(which might be less than 12V if it is shorting out).


--R

Karl Wittnebel wrote:

The problem seems to be directly related to the use of the A/C. If I don't use 
the A/C, the horn will be fine for months. So I doubt the horn is the culprit 
per se.
I'm no genius when it comes to checking for shorts; do I just put a voltmeter 
on the powered wire and look for zero ohms resistance?
Thanks,K 




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From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] a/c no worky
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 4:22 PM

Any chance the problem is in the horn circuitry, or even the contacts/wiring in 
the steering column?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD

2009-10-13 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Not that I have any experience with this whatever, but why not weigh the
removed rod and try to match it with the new replacement?  One could machine
off excess weight, but that would not work if the replacement rod is lighter
than the original.

Does this make any sense??

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300TD (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
'97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD

I did it at 180,000 miles. Just replaced the one rod. I now attribute
the bent rod to hydrolock in that cylinder due to failure of the head
gasket that allowed oil to enter the cylinder (oil-lock?). Given that
the piston protrudes from the head when at the top of it's stroke and
compress everything down to less than the thickness of the head
gasket, just a bit of oil seeping in could really mess things up. At
first I thought I had a turbo failure. If I had pulled the head right
away rather than screwing around with the turbo, it probably would
have been fine.

I played around with a dial indicator to try to measure roundness, but
did not detect anything significant. That was probably due to a
combination of user-error and cheap tools. All the cross hatches
looked fine.

The guy that told me about replacing #1 and #6 was a tech at a GM
dealership. 50/50 chance he was full of it.

-Dave Walton


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
wrote:
 Did you replace number one and number 6?  Or just 1?  Were your cylinders
 ovalled at all?  How many miles were on the engine?  Maybe I caught mine
in
 time before it really trashed the bottom end.

 dave walton wrote:

 The replacement rod did not have tabs to allow easy weight adjustment.
 It is significantly heaver than the original. I've since been told
 that as long as #1 and #6 are balanced, it's okay if they are heaver
 than the others. I'd want to very that somehow, but replacing the two
 rods would save some grief. The dealer said if they did the job, they
 would replace all the rods. I was not in the mood to spend $1k to
 replace good parts at the time. But you could probably recoup some of
 your investment selling the good old ones on eBay :-)

 Once the rod was replaced, the piston extended above the block like
 all the others.

 Put some bar stock on the block across the cylinder opening. Use 2
 magnetic bases. Mount the dial gauge between them on a crosspiece. Set
 the gauge to zero on top of the bar in the middle. Highest reading
 when the crank is rotated gives you a comparison number which relates
 to connecting rod length.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, dave walton walton.d...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 I did not see any way to drop the oil pan with the engine in the car.
 The front frame is directly under where you want to get to and can't
 be removed (without a torch or plasma cutter). If anyone knows how to
 avoid pulling the engine, please speak up.

 Once you get the oil pan off you can access the lower end of the
 connecting rod to replace it without pulling the crank.

 The transmission and engine come out as a unit.

 You will need a 2-ton shop crane. To access the center of gravity of
 the engine/transmission unit you need to extend the arm to it's
 maximum. The lift capacity goes down as the arm length goes up. Even
 with the Harbor Freight 2-ton crane maxed, the lift cylinder wanted to
 hit against the front bumper. If I had to do it again, I'd use a
 gantry crane on wheels.

 I was quoted $140 from the dealer for the replacement rod. They
 charged me $190 when it came in.

 -Dave Walton

 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:


 If I wanted to replace that one rod, I would have to pull the crank and
 everything wouldnt I?
 Mitch Haley wrote:


 Loren Faeth wrote:


 IMHO, you have a problem with a bent rod on #1.  It is bent enough so
 that I predict a short life after the engine is running again , if
you
 don't
 address the #1 rod at least.  Seems to me what you describe is in the
 neighborhood of 0.010 inch or so, (maybe more) and that is a problem.



 I concur. If five pistons stand proud of the block, and one piston is
 recessed, and you can detect that by feel, there's something wrong
with
 that
 one cylinder.
 When you add to that the fact that the most worn cylinder is the same
 one
 with the short rod, and it's the cylinder that's famous for bending
its
 rod,
 I'd say replace that rod and hope you caught it quick enough so that
 cylinder still seals ok. If one cylinder out of six makes 95% of the
 power
 of the others, the engine as a whole shouldn't run too badly.

 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Curt,
Would be a nice addition to the hunting camp.
Dwight 


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:09 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

Its in the next town over, I may go check it out just to say I did...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Greg Fiorentino wrote:

Not that I have any experience with this whatever, but why not weigh the
removed rod and try to match it with the new replacement?  One could machine
off excess weight, but that would not work if the replacement rod is lighter
than the original.



I believe the replacements are upgraded and heavier, and I think somebody said 
that they are all structural material, with no grindable tabs on the ends.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] wind in the tunnel

2009-10-13 Thread RELNGSON
 ...In summers in college I had internships at NASA Langley, the first 
 summer I worked in the Hypersonic Research Division, we had 3 or 4 hypersonic 
 blow-down tunnels that worked by sucking air through the
 tunnel into these huge vacuum spheres that were pumped down between 
 runs
 
My friend Mike T. (an honest-to-God German scientist) retired a while back 
from Nasa Ames and many years ago when I was visiting family in San Mateo, 
he invited me down to Ames for a tour. We walked through the gigantic wind 
tunnel there, a huge rectangle with giant fans to move the air. I was a little 
reticent to walk through, thinking about somehow the fans starting up and 
me coming out the other side as just so much Norwegian sliced herring. Didn't 
happen.

I also got a short ride in their centrifuge and lasted maybe five minutes 
before I felt like my innards were going to extrude through various bodily 
openings. Much staggering after debarking from the machine.

Mike was one of about three NASA people calculating heat gain on returning 
Mars spacecraft.

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[MBZ] Diesel Pug

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1415074558.html

Too cool. I really like the Pug wagons...

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[MBZ] Wow, who knew?

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Vermont is apparently awash in nice diesels:

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1414135443.html - Swedish

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1415074558.html - Frenchie I posted before

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1410384205.html - 116

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1415306131.html - 123

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[MBZ] Cheap diesel ponton in Oregon

2009-10-13 Thread tyler

http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/1418329762.html

I wish I were still living up there!

Tyler

Curt Raymond wrote:

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1415074558.html

Too cool. I really like the Pug wagons...

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap diesel ponton in Oregon

2009-10-13 Thread WILTON

will need accessories plugged in - well, plug 'em in!

Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] Cheap diesel ponton in Oregon



http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/1418329762.html

I wish I were still living up there!

Tyler

Curt Raymond wrote:

http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1415074558.html

Too cool. I really like the Pug wagons...

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Re: [MBZ] Wow, who knew?

2009-10-13 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:58 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/1415306131.html - 123

$8750?!??

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap diesel ponton in Oregon

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

tyler wrote:

http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/1418329762.html

I wish I were still living up there!


Does 'runs awesome' mean it'll do 60 mph?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap diesel ponton in Oregon

2009-10-13 Thread tyler

Perhaps a ponton isn't the right car for someone in such a hurry?

Tyler

Mitch Haley wrote:

tyler wrote:

http://salem.craigslist.org/cto/1418329762.html

I wish I were still living up there!


Does 'runs awesome' mean it'll do 60 mph?

Mitch.


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[MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?

2009-10-13 Thread tyler
Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb 
trailer? Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was 
added? Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load? What is 
the factory rated towing capacity?


Tyler

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[MBZ] DIBS!

2009-10-13 Thread LWB250
Back off, Wachsmuth, I saw it first.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290358658276viewitem=

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?

2009-10-13 Thread John Robbins

tyler wrote:

What is the factory rated towing capacity?


In Europe it's 750kg without trailer brakes, 2100kg with.  Sedans are 
1500kg with brakes. In the US... 0 kg. No chassis/brake/driveline 
differences that anybody knows about so I would roll with the European 
ratings.



Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb
 trailer?


According to the factory ratings... yes.  Just make sure that you have a 
 factory style hitch that also has the same ratings.  They show up 
occasionally on eBay or various forums  Also keep in mind that the 
tongue weight is only 75kg!



Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was added?
Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load?


I'd say it is a requirement!! They already have a transmission cooler 
built into the radiator, but the euro wagons with the towing package 
removed the transmission cooler from the radiator.  Presumably so the 
cooling system didn't have the extra load of the transmission so it 
could keep up with the increased load of the engine.  I'm also assuming 
an external transmission cooler was added at the same time.


All this being said, I've only researched this and not actually driven 
with a trailer on my wagon.  I've got a factory hitch waiting to be 
installed, but there are other more pressing matters I'm taking care of 
first  You know how that goes I'm sure! ;)


My $.02
John

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Re: [MBZ] DIBS!

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

LWB250 wrote:

Back off, Wachsmuth, I saw it first.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290358658276viewitem=


Ya, but is there room enough for a M100 in there?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] DIBS!

2009-10-13 Thread tyler

Now that's cool

LWB250 wrote:

Back off, Wachsmuth, I saw it first.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290358658276viewitem=

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] DIBS!

2009-10-13 Thread Allan Streib
Is that a factory car or a Binz conversion?

tyler casi...@usermail.com writes:

 Now that's cool

 LWB250 wrote:
 Back off, Wachsmuth, I saw it first.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290358658276viewitem=

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Cheap diesel ponton in Oregon

2009-10-13 Thread Kevin Kraly
My favorite one is It's an easy fix.  If it's so easy, just do it!  It's 
so much better when things are sorted out.


Kevin, still in Southern Kalifornia, between MB Diesels 



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Re: [MBZ] DIBS!

2009-10-13 Thread Richard Hattaway
Sure is smoking a bit in the 'running' photo.

I think he's a bit high in the price department till the engine compartment has 
also been restored.  Then it would be a *cool* car for sure.

Richard

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

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 Subject: [MBZ] DIBS!
 To: Banned ban...@okiebenz.com, Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 9:53 PM
 Back off, Wachsmuth, I saw it first.
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290358658276viewitem=
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Snow Leopard bug

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Apple rarely has bad releases but when they do they're doozys.
10.2.something would eat the MBR of any attached Firewire800 drives, all the 
data on the drive was lost...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:40:15 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac Snow Leopard bug
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Hopefully not gone, but in some lost directory somewhere.  

This
sort of thing is fairly unusual for Apple, most times there are not
major oops sorta things in a released version, but I suppose anything
is possible.

Do a file search, it may all be there somewhere strange.

Peter


  
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats the ultimate hunting rig...

Can you imagine Angie driving it to work?

-Curt

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:04:48 -0400
From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Curt,
Would be a nice addition to the hunting camp.
Dwight 


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

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Its in the next town over, I may go check it out just to say I did...

-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] 220D no start

2009-10-13 Thread Redghost
I spent the rest of the day poking, yanking and swearing at the  
cable.  Got it moved back, forward, right, left and inside out.  I  
think the cable is too short to do all three functions.  I can get the  
thing long enough to start, but it will not shut off, or it will be  
long enough to shut off, but not long enough to get the starter to  
engage.


Figure I will just let the clutch be the stop pedal.


clay


On Oct 11, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

I found out the cable was off, and proceeded to hook it back to the  
IP and now it is not willing to start when the knob gets pulled.   
It will go to glow, but I am not able to pull it further so that it  
engages the start circuit.


That cable is adjustable, in some manner.  You need to
adjust it so that it has enough travel to hit the
starter contacts.

What would work better would be a simple manual glow switch, and a  
push to start button.  Probably pain in the rear to figure out the  
way to cut into the circuits.


Yeah, they combined all three systems on one easy-to-use knob.
Until it breaks, then it's a PITA.  But if you fix it right
you can go back to your nearly-unstealable stealth ignition
system.

-- Jim



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[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Gasoline Prices]

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley


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RETAIL GASOLINE: (Self Service Prices per Gallon, Including
Taxes) This report contains price estimates for gasoline sold in
ozone non-attainment areas which require the sale of
reformulated gasoline (RFG) as designated by the Environmental
 Protection Agency, and Conventional areas which includes both
 attainment areas and carbon monoxide non-attainment areas.
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  Date8/24   8/319/7   9/14   9/219/28   10/5  10/12

National Price - All Grades
 Average 2.682  2.667  2.642  2.632  2.607   2.554  2.523  2.543
 Conventional Areas  2.622  2.605  2.569  2.550  2.526   2.475  2.446  2.480
 RFG Areas   2.802  2.795  2.792  2.799  2.771   2.715  2.681  2.670

National Price - Regular
 Average 2.628  2.613  2.588  2.577  2.552   2.499  2.468  2.489
 Conventional Areas  2.572  2.553  2.519  2.499  2.477   2.425  2.396  2.432
 RFG Areas   2.746  2.737  2.733  2.741  2.712   2.655  2.621  2.611

National Price - Midgrade
 Average 2.751  2.739  2.711  2.704  2.680   2.631  2.600  2.614
 Conventional Areas  2.677  2.662  2.619  2.603  2.580   2.531  2.502  2.532
 RFG Areas   2.893  2.887  2.890  2.899  2.874   2.823  2.788  2.774

National Price - Premium
 Average 2.869  2.857  2.831  2.818  2.793   2.741  2.711  2.727
 Conventional Areas  2.813  2.797  2.759  2.739  2.714   2.663  2.634  2.665
 RFG Areas   2.972  2.967  2.965  2.964  2.941   2.886  2.853  2.841


++
All GradesDate8/24   8/319/7   9/14   9/219/28   10/5  10/12
++

PADD 1 - East Coast
 Average 2.676  2.664  2.644  2.607  2.571   2.523  2.484  2.486
 Conventional Areas  2.662  2.642  2.620  2.574  2.538   2.498  2.461  2.475
 RFG Areas   2.699  2.700  2.685  2.662  2.624   2.564  2.521  2.504

PADD 1a - New England
 Average 2.714  2.726  2.718  2.700  2.660   2.605  2.569  2.536
 Conventional Areas  2.718  2.713  2.710  2.685  2.671   2.626  2.587  2.565
 RFG Areas   2.714  2.729  2.720  2.704  2.657   2.600  2.565  2.529

PADD 1b - Central Atlantic
 Average 2.736  2.728  2.715  2.689  2.653   2.596  2.551  2.537
 Conventional Areas  2.780  2.763  2.749  2.721  2.681   2.634  2.592  2.585
 RFG Areas   2.710  2.707  2.694  2.669  2.637   2.572  2.526  2.507

PADD 1c - Lower Atlantic
 Average 2.620  2.599  2.571  2.520  2.485   2.445  2.410  2.434
 Conventional Areas  2.621  2.600  2.574  2.521  2.486   2.447  2.413  2.436
 RFG Areas   2.604  2.582  2.543  2.514  2.471   2.423  2.381  2.418

PADD 2 - Midwest
 Average 2.580  2.555  2.497  2.498  2.480   2.410  2.393  2.474
 Conventional Areas  2.565  2.543  2.486  2.485  2.469   2.401  2.384  2.464
 RFG Areas   2.674  2.634  2.567  2.584  2.551   2.467  2.450  2.533

PADD 3 - Gulf Coast
 Average 2.545  2.517  2.462  2.437  2.413   2.366  2.344  2.373
 Conventional Areas  2.548  2.522  2.475  2.451  2.429   2.380  2.357  2.382
 RFG Areas   2.536  2.498  2.419  2.392  2.363   2.322  2.301  2.345

PADD 4 - Rocky Mountain
 Conventional Areas  2.665  2.663  2.645  2.636  2.620   2.598  2.553  2.532

PADD 5 - West Coast
 Average 3.000  3.008  3.054  3.094  3.082   3.036  2.997  2.947
 Conventional Areas  2.885  2.905  2.929  2.951  2.943   2.896  2.841  2.793
 RFG Areas   3.047  3.050  3.104  3.152  3.138   3.093  3.060  3.010

PADD 5b - West Coast less CA
 Average 2.855  2.868  2.883  2.899  2.887   2.834  2.778  2.733
 Conventional Areas  2.885  2.905  2.929  2.951  2.943   2.896  2.841  2.793
 RFG Areas   2.711  2.693  2.665  2.653  2.621   2.541  2.478  2.446

California
 RFG Areas   3.078  3.083  3.146  3.199  3.186   3.145  3.115  3.062

Colorado
 Conventional Areas  2.572  2.556  2.525  2.503  2.475   2.445  2.405  2.398

Florida
 Conventional Areas  2.654  2.639  2.596  

[MBZ] [Fwd: Today's Diesel Prices]

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley


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   On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD
(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp

   Average All Types

US
NATL   EASTNEWCENTLOWER   GULF   ROCKY   WEST
 DATE   AVGCOAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST   CA

   PADD   PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD   PADDPADD
 I IA  IB  IC  II III IV  V
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091012  2.600  2.610  2.690   2.723   2.554   2.581   2.530  2.650  2.732  2.791
091005  2.582  2.586  2.686   2.698   2.529   2.561   2.518  2.645  2.722  2.792
090928  2.601  2.607  2.703   2.714   2.552   2.585   2.525  2.658  2.742  2.807
090921  2.622  2.631  2.708   2.738   2.578   2.598   2.542  2.678  2.783  2.827
090914  2.634  2.650  2.720   2.755   2.599   2.607   2.555  2.683  2.795  2.847
090907  2.647  2.658  2.729   2.768   2.604   2.628   2.575  2.682  2.786  2.866
090831  2.674  2.691  2.742   2.779   2.649   2.649   2.618  2.692  2.802  2.893
090824  2.668  2.692  2.741   2.781   2.649   2.637   2.622  2.671  2.785  2.880
090817  2.652  2.687  2.739   2.771   2.646   2.623   2.607  2.633  2.744  2.872
090810  2.625  2.665  2.701   2.755   2.624   2.601   2.581  2.573  2.700  2.842
090803  2.550  2.579  2.637   2.671   2.535   2.520   2.513  2.537  2.643  2.763
090727  2.528  2.550  2.613   2.643   2.505   2.500   2.493  2.540  2.617  2.720
090720  2.496  2.514  2.600   2.630   2.456   2.470   2.443  2.559  2.595  2.703
090713  2.542  2.559  2.623   2.663   2.508   2.512   2.494  2.619  2.641  2.727
090706  2.594  2.609  2.656   2.714   2.560   2.565   2.547  2.648  2.706  2.787
090629  2.608  2.629  2.666   2.726   2.584   2.578   2.569  2.631  2.712  2.785
090622  2.616  2.634  2.670   2.730   2.590   2.587   2.583  2.614  2.720  2.789
090615  2.572  2.601  2.651   2.696   2.556   2.546   2.543  2.520  2.655  2.734
090608  2.498  2.516  2.566   2.619   2.468   2.474   2.474  2.442  2.603  2.676
090601  2.352  2.369  2.438   2.457   2.326   2.322   2.323  2.343  2.460  2.502
090525  2.274  2.305  2.409   2.410   2.251   2.229   2.242  2.302  2.384  2.407
090518  2.231  2.276  2.401   2.396   2.213   2.170   2.210  2.274  2.340  2.354
090511  2.216  2.255  2.395   2.386   2.186   2.156   2.198  2.270  2.329  2.337
090504  2.185  2.226  2.382   2.365   2.152   2.124   2.153  2.262  2.306  2.316
090427  2.201  2.241  2.395   2.374   2.171   2.142   2.171  2.270  2.315  2.320
090420  2.221  2.264  2.403   2.392   2.197   2.166   2.186  2.274  2.327  2.340
090413  2.229  2.273  2.420   2.402   2.204   2.175   2.202  2.250  2.336  2.350
090406  2.228  2.279  2.429   2.419   2.205   2.178   2.210  2.213  2.311  2.335
090330  2.221  2.281  2.424   2.399   2.218   2.176   2.203  2.146  2.282  2.297
090323  2.090  2.166  2.403   2.315   2.081   2.038   2.060  2.036  2.150  2.129
090316  2.017  2.093  2.403   2.254   1.995   1.965   1.973  1.988  2.091  2.049
090309  2.045  2.122  2.434   2.287   2.022   1.988   2.006  2.017  2.120  2.075
090302  2.087  2.153  2.472   2.314   2.055   2.030   2.043  2.091  2.185  2.144
090223  2.130  2.199  2.514   2.368   2.098   2.071   2.074  2.158  2.238  2.219
090216  2.186  2.250  2.559   2.420   2.148   2.137   2.133  2.183  2.284  2.262
090209  2.219  2.296  2.576   2.450   2.205   2.173   2.156  2.211  2.292  2.269
090202  2.246  2.325  2.583   2.484   2.233   2.201   2.189  2.229  2.303  2.288
090126  2.268  2.344  2.595   2.490   2.258   2.232   2.202  2.243  2.319  2.296
090119  2.296  2.377  2.613   2.514   2.297   2.264   2.227  2.249  2.338  2.319
090112  2.314  2.395  2.621   2.516   2.322   2.289   2.244  2.235  2.353  2.334
090105  2.291  2.380  2.596   2.496   2.310   2.272   2.228  2.215  2.275  2.239
081229  2.327  2.423  2.638   2.536   2.355   2.314   2.264  2.250  2.273  2.241
081222  2.366  2.469  2.689   2.566   2.406   2.359   2.306  2.272  2.274  2.251
081215  2.422  2.534  2.740   2.642   2.469   2.406   2.378  2.350  2.303  2.292
081208  

Re: [MBZ] 220D no start

2009-10-13 Thread Redghost

Thanks Craig,

I drug out the shop manuals and the chiltons to peruse over beers.  No  
good answers on just what the correct adjustment is.  I suspect it  
needs the cable to be new.  The old one lost the lead knot on the end  
that would have been right.  I have it bent over to lock it to the  
slide mechanism


clay

On Oct 11, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:30:42 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
wrote:


That cable is adjustable, in some manner.  You need to
adjust it so that it has enough travel to hit the
starter contacts.

Yeah, they combined all three systems on one easy-to-use knob.
Until it breaks, then it's a PITA.  But if you fix it right
you can go back to your nearly-unstealable stealth ignition
system.


Yeah, what he said.

With the dash knob pushed all the way in, the cable has to push on the
injection pump lever to stop the engine.

With the dash knob in the released position, the pin on the  
injection
pump lever should be somewhere in the slot on the fitting on the end  
of

the start cable.

With the dash knob in the start position, the pin on the injection  
pump
should be against the front end of the slot on the fitting on the  
end of
the start cable and pulled a little more back than its normal  
operating

position. This causes the injection pump to put out more fuel so the
starting is easier.

It's indeed possible to correctly adjust the cable. When it's  
correctly

adjusted, everything works as designed.

If this isn't enough information, I can look through my 1973  
Chilton's and
see if it has more. I may even scan the pages, but later, because I  
don't

have time right now.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 220D no start

2009-10-13 Thread WILTON

'Sure rough on clutch, tranny, drive shaft, dif., axle, etc.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Redghost redgh...@comcast.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 220D no start


I spent the rest of the day poking, yanking and swearing at the  
cable.  Got it moved back, forward, right, left and inside out.  I  
think the cable is too short to do all three functions.  I can get the  
thing long enough to start, but it will not shut off, or it will be  
long enough to shut off, but not long enough to get the starter to  
engage.


Figure I will just let the clutch be the stop pedal.


clay


On Oct 11, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:

I found out the cable was off, and proceeded to hook it back to the  
IP and now it is not willing to start when the knob gets pulled.   
It will go to glow, but I am not able to pull it further so that it  
engages the start circuit.


That cable is adjustable, in some manner.  You need to
adjust it so that it has enough travel to hit the
starter contacts.

What would work better would be a simple manual glow switch, and a  
push to start button.  Probably pain in the rear to figure out the  
way to cut into the circuits.


Yeah, they combined all three systems on one easy-to-use knob.
Until it breaks, then it's a PITA.  But if you fix it right
you can go back to your nearly-unstealable stealth ignition
system.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts Related Problems

2009-10-13 Thread LarryT

Hi Gang -
   I ended up taking my 91 300D to the local MB dealer - as in the pas they 
have provided spectacular service.  I had them confirm the condition of my 
motor mounts - as suggested by those on the list, one  MM was partially 
collapsed.  Fortunately, only the drivers side needs to be replaced - which 
I'll do as soon as I get some parts from Rusty.


   Additionally, they tell me the Injector Seals are leaking - not internal 
seals but the O-Ring and copper washer that fits inside the line where it 
exits the IP - so the IP doesn't need to be replaced - only the metal 
injector lines need to come off and a fitting inside the IP removed from 
each injector exit port.  I plan to do it myself and from what little I've 
seen it doesn't look too bad.  Don't know how I would have found these seals 
were bad!


   They tell me the seals leak internally  cause the problem I described - 
rough idle at idle after fully warmed up.


   So it sounds like a combination of the IP seals and the MM.  We'll soon 
see how accurate they are. ;-)


   They also told me one of my Tie Rod end seals is damaged and the grease 
is gone.  But they didn't try to suggest I let them do the repairs.  Which I 
liked.  I replaced both Tie Rod Assys. last year IIRC so I was surprised to 
hear a grease boot had failed.  Anyway, I'll look in my records to see when 
I replaced them and go from there - again - no problems.


All this is FYI in case you are experiencing similar symptoms.

LarryT
91 300D

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:13 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts


Thx Pter -
   Very informative -  will call Rusty if I need to order them.  I will 
check condition to be sure.  I know they are not leaking but the 
measurement will tell.  If I need to change them it sounds like a god idea 
to soak the fasteners with some penetrating oil.  A shooting friend gave 
me a 1/2 quart (!!) of Kroil which should do the trick.


   Thx agn for the info -

LarryT
91 300D

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From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts


Much easier than the old ones.

Chief difficulties are access to the top bolt and dropping the lower 
hexhead into the frame while installing.


Loosen top and bottom bolts -- on the diesel, the right side is a  pain 
since the mount is under the turbo and is only accessable from 
underneath with a flex-head ratchet, and it's usually also stuck.   Lower 
bolts require dropping the lower sound encapsulation panel  (usually one 
piece on the gassers, two on the diesel, and both have  to come out).


Jack engine, remove both bolts and remove heat shield and mount.  New 
mount will usually be somewhat taller than the old one, so jack the 
engine some more.  Mounts are keyed into the engine carrier.  Start 
bottom bolt first, then top bolt.  Helps to leave some slack so you  can 
move then around, and it's usually easier to get both bolts  started 
while underneath.  This is required on the W201 as you cannot  access the 
top bolt from above.  Screw bottom bolt up lightely, lower  jack, tighten 
both bolts fully.  Remember to put the heat shield back  where it was.


On the gasser, you may have to remove the bottom bolt on the left  side 
and jack the engine up quite a bit to reach the top bolt, as  it's under 
the intake and when the mounts are really flat, it's quite  difficult to 
get a wrench on it, even with a 2' extension!  Fairly  easy to reach when 
new.


Easy to check condition, too -- if there is less than 3/4 inch or so 
between the bottom of the hemispherical part's lower edge and the  frame, 
or you find thick fluid leaking out, they are shot.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread LarryT


I'd like to put one of these fans on my 66 MGB but I think I'll wait for 
those evil rich people to buy and try them - that'll eventually push the 
price down into the reasonable range! ;-)


It'd be nice to get rid of the fan blade!  Jus not nice enough to pay over 
$300. for one.


LarryT
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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan


Yes, perfect for those green-car type folks who want 60+ mpg but all the
modern luxuries.

I suspect the price will drop once the Chinese get their factories
tooled up.  Patents, we don't need no stinkin' patents!

Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

Interesting, but a bit spendy.

--R

Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

This looks pretty cool:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5ba62a00-b755-11de-9812-00144feab49a.html

Adapted for auto use, could be used to replace the radiator cooling
fan and the HVAC fan, probably save weight and increase reliability.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 315k miles
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well she would sure get looks if she drove it to work.

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI
-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:04 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

Thats the ultimate hunting rig...

Can you imagine Angie driving it to work?

-Curt

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:04:48 -0400
From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Curt,
Would be a nice addition to the hunting camp.
Dwight 


Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.? 
1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 1:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

Its in the next town over, I may go check it out just to say I did...

-Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] 220D no start

2009-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey

The old one lost the lead knot on the end that would have been right.
I have it bent over to lock it to the slide mechanism.


Hey Clay!  Your cable's too short!

Translation: you lost center wire length, so now the sheath is
'too long' and you don't have enough effective travel to accomplish
all functions.  You can move the sheath out of its proper position
in the retaining clamp in order to pick up your choice of functions
at either end of the travel, but not both at the same time.

If there's enough overall length left you could try nipping off
some of the outer sheath in order to regain some range of motion...

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Re: [MBZ] a/c no worky

2009-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm no genius when it comes to checking for shorts; do I just put a 
voltmeter on the powered wire and look for zero ohms resistance?


An ohmmeter would be better.  But yes, that's basically how you
start.  But look for obvious physical damage to the wiring first.

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread OK Don
$8,000? - perhaps if it had the crane 

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.netwrote:

 Well she would sure get looks if she drove it to work.


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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread OK Don
Sure sounds like a venturi - and one of those air compressor powered vacuum
pumps --
Not a bad mark-up for $5 or $10 of parts and plastic!

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:


 I'd like to put one of these fans on my 66 MGB but I think I'll wait for
 those evil rich people to buy and try them - that'll eventually push the
 price down into the reasonable range! ;-)

 It'd be nice to get rid of the fan blade!  Jus not nice enough to pay over
 $300. for one.

 LarryT
 91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley

Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Well she would sure get looks if she drove it to work.


I wanna see Curt buy some earplugs and drive it to work.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] More MB boards?

2009-10-13 Thread Curt Raymond
Hey gang,

I'm still searching (high and low) for a replacement diff for my '85 190D 2.2l. 
Cama says almost nobody rebuilds them since the tools are spendy and the 
replacement I put in hasn't worked out (its lounder than the one it replaced). 
The only options remaining on car-part.com are very expensive (one was $450).

So I put a post on Peachparts and a guy has one for a good price but its 3.23 
ratio as opposed to the 3.42 thats in it... I'm worried about getting into a 
Jim Cathey situation where I lose all my low end. The Peachparts crowd is all 
about taller gears for better fuel economy but I'm not sure I believe thats 
gonna happen...

So, does anybody else know of free boards (like Peachparts or here) where I can 
post looking for a new diff? Alternately if anybody spots one in a boneyard 
pick it up and I'll reward you for your time.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] More MB boards?

2009-10-13 Thread Mitch Haley


I don't know if they have a classified section, but what about
http://www.schumanautomotive.com/forums/   ?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?

2009-10-13 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Hi Tyler,John gives excellent information... I just installed a factory-like
euro hitch on my 95 E320 wagon, with rated 2100kg load.  Thats 4600lbs!  I'm
still searching for my towable toy (a sailboat), but I'm looking at for
3500lbs as my maximum.  Its quite a bit of weight.  In preparation for
towing that weight, I've already gone over my brakes (ended up replacing
just about everything) and changing my trans fluid and filter.  My cooling
system is in good shape, with a recent radiator.  My only concern is the
car's ability to pull the boat and trailer up a launch ramp.

With some preventative maintenance, common sense, and good trailer brakes, I
think you'll be fine.

Jaime

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:41 PM, tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb
 trailer? Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was added?
 Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load? What is the
 factory rated towing capacity?

 Tyler

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody want a mog?

2009-10-13 Thread Frederick W Moir


Curt.
A couple of AT4's on the fenders and she would be ready for a 
Massachusetts commute!

Probably Overkill!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.

At 07:04 PM 10/13/2009, you wrote:

Thats the ultimate hunting rig...

Can you imagine Angie driving it to work?

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?

2009-10-13 Thread Peter Hertzing
Where did you find the hitch.  I have a 2200 pound popup that I would like
to pull with me 95 E320 but have never been able to find the hitch.
Currently pulling with me 97 Volvo 960, but would like to divest myself of
that car.  Only keeping it to tow

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Tyler,John gives excellent information... I just installed a
 factory-like
 euro hitch on my 95 E320 wagon, with rated 2100kg load.  Thats 4600lbs!
  I'm
 still searching for my towable toy (a sailboat), but I'm looking at for
 3500lbs as my maximum.  Its quite a bit of weight.  In preparation for
 towing that weight, I've already gone over my brakes (ended up replacing
 just about everything) and changing my trans fluid and filter.  My cooling
 system is in good shape, with a recent radiator.  My only concern is the
 car's ability to pull the boat and trailer up a launch ramp.

 With some preventative maintenance, common sense, and good trailer brakes,
 I
 think you'll be fine.

 Jaime

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:41 PM, tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote:

  Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb
  trailer? Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was added?
  Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load? What is the
  factory rated towing capacity?
 
  Tyler
 
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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread WILTON
Venturi effect is my first thought, too, but I'd bet the basic air mover is 
a bladed fan/pump of some type - and noisy.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan


Sure sounds like a venturi - and one of those air compressor powered 
vacuum

pumps --
Not a bad mark-up for $5 or $10 of parts and plastic!

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:



I'd like to put one of these fans on my 66 MGB but I think I'll wait for
those evil rich people to buy and try them - that'll eventually push 
the

price down into the reasonable range! ;-)

It'd be nice to get rid of the fan blade!  Jus not nice enough to pay 
over

$300. for one.

LarryT
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Bladeless electric fan

2009-10-13 Thread OK Don
Yup - fast fan in that little can on the bottom.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Venturi effect is my first thought, too, but I'd bet the basic air mover is
 a bladed fan/pump of some type - and noisy.

 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] If this were closer I'd buy it

2009-10-13 Thread Bob Rentfro
My dad had one of those (an '80) and he put 298,500 miles on it before he
sold it to my idiot neighbor who totaled it the first day he owned it. I
loved that little truck.

Bob R

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-Chevy-Luv-Isuzu-Diesel-4x4_W0QQitemZ260489516266QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ca66294ea

 These can't be common...
 Its too expensive but I bet if you walked in with $800 it'd sell.

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Re: [MBZ] If this were closer I'd buy it

2009-10-13 Thread Peter Hertzing
Actually these trucks are rated for use in undergournd minning operations.
Where I am in Southern IL you see several of them.  I was underground doing
some onsite healthcare for one of the mines, and was amazed to see 20 of
them.  Guy said they all had well over 150K all driven underground at a max
speed of 25MPH.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 My dad had one of those (an '80) and he put 298,500 miles on it before he
 sold it to my idiot neighbor who totaled it the first day he owned it. I
 loved that little truck.

 Bob R

 On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-Chevy-Luv-Isuzu-Diesel-4x4_W0QQitemZ260489516266QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ca66294ea
 
  These can't be common...
  Its too expensive but I bet if you walked in with $800 it'd sell.
 
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[MBZ] Mercedes-Benz for Sale - $500 (North Stonington, Ct)

2009-10-13 Thread tom tomscat

 

I want to STAY married, so I can't even think about another car. :)  

 

but a 'very good body and an all leather interior in beautiful condition 
(prolly MB Tex, not leather) for $500 bucks.  He thinks it may need a battery.  
Who knows?

 

Good grief, Charley Brown.

 

http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/1389142738.html

 

No affiliation, but somebody may want to snap this up.

 

Tom Schuch

SE Connecticut

1975 300D W115

1989 BMW 325ix, 1989 BMW 325ic

1979 BMW 323i Euro, 1977 320i (carbed)

1978 320i (parts car)

and whatever it is my wife drives  :) VW Passat Turbo-Wagon

 

I can resist anything except temptation.  Oscar Wilde.

 
  
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Re: [MBZ] 220D no start

2009-10-13 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:31:27 -0700 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
wrote:

  The old one lost the lead knot on the end that would have been right.
  I have it bent over to lock it to the slide mechanism.
 
 Hey Clay!  Your cable's too short!
 
 Translation: you lost center wire length, so now the sheath is
 'too long' and you don't have enough effective travel to accomplish
 all functions.  You can move the sheath out of its proper position
 in the retaining clamp in order to pick up your choice of functions
 at either end of the travel, but not both at the same time.
 
 If there's enough overall length left you could try nipping off
 some of the outer sheath in order to regain some range of motion...

What he said ...

You can use a triangular file to cut (carefully!) through the outer
sheath.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD

2009-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
 190D, 84 300D euro manny,
81
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Re: [MBZ] Bore measurements on 140 SD

2009-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Then you would end up with bent rods again.

Greg Fiorentino wrote:

Not that I have any experience with this whatever, but why not weigh the
removed rod and try to match it with the new replacement?  One could machine
off excess weight, but that would not work if the replacement rod is lighter
than the original.

Does this make any sense??

Greg Fiorentino
'85 300SD
'80 240D 4 spd. manual
'79 300TD (with new crate engine)
'95 and '97 Crown Vics
'97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke

  


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Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?

2009-10-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I sure as hell would not want to try it.

tyler wrote:
Does anyone know if a W124 wagon (1987 300TD) can safely tow a 3500lb 
trailer? Would the transmission be up to it if a larger cooler was 
added? Could the engine cooling system keep up with such a load? What 
is the factory rated towing capacity?


Tyler

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Re: [MBZ] Anyone tow with a W124 wagon?

2009-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey

My only concern is the car's ability to pull the boat and trailer
up a launch ramp.


And a very real concern it should be, too.  As that trailer
rocks back on the ramp it'll tend to lift the rear wheels off
the ground.  My son and I got a free ride down an embankment
due to that factor.  You'd want a lot of extra weight in the
back of the wagon, I'd think.  Stupid trailer trick story:

http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/moglog.html#trailer

If the ramp was wet and/or slimy, even worse.  It's easy
enough in a 4wd truck that outweighs the towed load by 2x,
else maybe oh-oh!

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] More MB boards?

2009-10-13 Thread Jim Cathey
So I put a post on Peachparts and a guy has one for a good price but 
its 3.23 ratio as opposed to the 3.42 thats in it... I'm worried about 
getting into a Jim Cathey situation where I lose all my low end. The 
Peachparts crowd is all about taller gears for better fuel economy but 
I'm not sure I believe thats gonna happen...


Balls.  These diesels don't react to RPM like gassers do.
Witness all our 123's, etc., driving around town in S rather
than D, yet not getting any worse mileage while doing so.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Motor Mounts Related Problems

2009-10-13 Thread harry watkins

Larry wrote:
   Additionally, they tell me the Injector Seals are leaking - not 
internal seals but the O-Ring and copper washer that fits inside the line 
where it exits the IP - so the IP doesn't need to be replaced - only the 
metal injector lines need to come off and a fitting inside the IP removed 
from each injector exit port.  I plan to do it myself and from what little 
I've seen it doesn't look too bad.  Don't know how I would have found 
these seals were bad!


   They tell me the seals leak internally  cause the problem I 
described - rough idle at idle after fully warmed up.


Boy, this messes with my mind.  How can one determine that a delivery valve 
has an internal leak?  I could understand if they had looked at the parts 
and found some wear but that would have required a tear down.  IMHO, if you 
go in there for any reason, you should replace the o-rings, seals and 
springs, perform the three step torque procedure and hope for the best.


Anyone know how they do that?

Thanks
Harry 



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