Re: [MBZ] testing
The list continues to be unresponsive. I'm getting notices from Verizon the it's not getting responses from the list server and that retries are timing out after several hours. Kaleb, you need to get on someone's ass about this. It's been going on for a week. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 6:05pm EDT, 8-7-15 FAILing6:35 pm CDT, but it has been in the inbox an hour and a half or so. Timestamp: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:04:41 -0700 (PDT) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing
I did not get the ticket submitted like I thought, it is now. I will soon know if it is a Verizon issue like I suspect. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The list continues to be unresponsive. I'm getting notices from Verizon the it's not getting responses from the list server and that retries are timing out after several hours. Kaleb, you need to get on someone's ass about this. It's been going on for a week. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 6:05pm EDT, 8-7-15 FAILing6:35 pm CDT, but it has been in the inbox an hour and a half or so. Timestamp: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 15:04:41 -0700 (PDT) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing
Came thru right away from the list to me. On 8/7/2015 5:04 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: 6:05pm EDT, 8-7-15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing
On August 7, 2015 at 8:31 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Came thru right away from the list to me. Me too, was in my inbox within 30 seconds after I sent it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing
It looks like it arrived a minute before you sent it at this end. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 6:05pm EDT, 8-7-15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
and probably full of asbestos, too. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ahh the workday. By the time you wrote I'd already been at work for nearly 2 hours inflicting knowledge on the unsuspecting... I spent most of yesterday jacking Angie's parent's 150 year old house trying to level out the kitchen so we can lay tile. We bought the tile for them at Christmas 2013, I'd like to get it down before this Christmas. After replacing 2 wooden posts and raising half of the house about 3/4 the floor is pretty level and has most of the sag taken out of the center so the peel and stick tiles will probably survive for a good long time.Before you denigrate peel and stick tiles they'll be replacing linoleum from the '60s that is literally worn through... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: [MBZ] ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Power Booster saga
Probably. I'm not sure how the heat factors into it, but a lockup in one wheel is usually a hose whose internal lining has failed and swelled. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Bob via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A few weeks ago I mentioned I broke down on the way to my shorehouse. Since I replaced the power booster on my 78 240D before I went ahead ordered A PB from Rockauto.con,got it in a day a half .I contortingly installed it [ Dan- easy for me being 5'-6] Then I realized the check valve on the vacuum pump was kaput. Couldn't remove it due to the galling between the steel valve the aluminum body. So I put in a new one. I even had to remove a broken bolt from the previous owner. Bled the brakes with my homemade pressure bleeder [Boy that's fun !!] Then when I would drive it a few miles,after a few lights my front right caliper would lock up I had to abandon the car Half an hour later I come back I would drive back to my house before it would get tight again. I installed both front NEW calipers[Bendix] just 2 years ago. I replaced all four brake hoses about 4 years ago. My question is does this sound like brake hoses collapsing on the inside ?? I don't remember my source for these hoses [Chinese?] My car brakes would be fine after it cools down after a half hour or more. I bled the brakes again still same thing. I did notice that my rear brake hoses did have some black specs when I bled them so I'm wondering about the hoses. HELP ! I'm now 92 miles away from my car since I had to come home due to renters. I'm 4 weeks away from My week at the house when I could work on it again in my driveway. Any suggestions ?? If I need hoses I'll order from MB. Caliper from Rockauto. THanx guys. Bob 1983 240D PS runs like a new car except for the eventual lockup ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Thermostats at Liquidation Pricing
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Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners
Not even close, thank goodness. He’s in South Florida living with his mom. His daughter attends Florida Polytechnic in Lakeland, FL, which is about halfway between Tampa and Orlando. He was trying to find a way to live in Lakeland when his daughter first got accepted to Florida Poly. Dan On Aug 4, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Go spend the winter with FL Fats, isn't he somewhere near Tampa? -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners I went to Naples last Feb. and swam in the Gulf - barely tolerable at 70 degrees. Napoli is nice, but too far and too expensive. It might cost less to go to the real Napoli than the fake one in FL. We are trying to find someplace that is available and easy travel for family in gu'fpo't and West Virginny, and preferably warm and some form of sand beach, if only a pond. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
How do organic pads compare to ceramic? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 7, 2015 10:06:33 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you want to go on the cheap with some organic pads, check out Rock Auto. They have had some seriously good deals on close outs for brake pads of late. I just picked up a set of domestic organic pads for the 98 S420 last week for $6. D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Addition to the Driveway
I don’t know if the OBDII thing had anything do do with the facelift in 1996, as all of the information was already there - they just weren’t making it accessible via the OBDII standards. We haven’t topped off from the drive back from Mobile, but should be in the next day or two. I’m interested to see what kind of mileage we got. I don’t think 25 MPG is realistic, as I drove the 1998 S420 back from St. Louis and only got around 23 MPG. It’s got to be better than the coupe, as it only got around 16-17 MPG on a mixed driving cycle. I’ll report back as soon as I know. Dan On Aug 2, 2015, at 7:36 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Didn't the entire computer system get upgraded in 1996 since they had to change it anyway to meet OBD-II? Do any of the mechanical transmission models have a chance of hitting 25mpg on the highway? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - a little excitement, propane fire
I haven’t noticed if Costco sells propane here. I’ll be interested to see what Andrew finds out. Dan On Aug 4, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's sick. HD charges more than triple what you pay. I'll check at the Pentagon City Costco when I go there later today.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown
If I watch TV at all tonight, as I rarely do, it will be to see the latest episode of Rick and Morty on Adult Swim. Another really awesome series on AS is Mr. Pickles. I highly recommend it, although you better be up for some really off color, raunchy and moderately violent stuff presented in a very humorous fashion. Brooke Shields voices the mother on it. That won't have the desired effect until you see the show, then it will surprise you Dan fan of Robot Chicken and Aqua Teen Hunger Force Sent from my iPad On Aug 6, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Very creative!! On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah its hard telling. Graham could have done something better, auction Trump's number for charity or something... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown WOW, that's a tough one: who is the bigger a**hole? On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lindsey Graham is the schmuck, he did it after Trump posted his phone number. I wonder if Trump thought it through from the first place or got lucky when Graham destroyed his phone... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 2:48 PM Subject: [MBZ] Trying to screw the clown So some schmuck posted the clowns private cell phone # to the internet; trying to get him all bent. He puts a recorded campaign message on the phone and smiles! Gotta love a real 'Mercan!So much different than a DC borg! Making lemonade out of lemons! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ceramic brakes Wuz:This is bad
DO you want or care about clean wheels? Ceramic will keep your wheels cleaner. I've had very good luck with cheap pads from oreely. They do make your wheels dirty. I just clean and paint the wheels every few years with a rattlecan. Unless you are driving on a race track, the cheap (organic) pads work very well. If you plan to drag the brakes all the way down a mountain, they may fade, but I never have any problem. Ceramic on the dogde van: The anti skid accelerometer has been fubar mostly since we got the van. Most of the time the system turns itself off, but sometimes the LF brake drags. this ruins the discs and pads. About 18 months ago I put new pads and rotors on; did the ceramic pad breakin stuff; and they were wonderful. Unfortunately, i never figured out how to snip the purple wire somewhere buried under the console that is said to disable the antiskid system. So the new rotors and pads are ruined. I recently dug in to the console innards and found the accelerometer. I never found the purple wire, but I unplugged the accelerometer, with the same effect. Anti skid is now dead. There are 2 fuses you can pull to disable, but it also kills the speedometer, odometer and some other somewhat necessary systems. This is all not really the fault of ceramic pads, but i don't think the cheap pads would cause the rotor warping like these did. The whole deal of the special breakin procedure for the ceramic pads is related to not warping the rotors and putting a glaze on the ceramic pad. How do organic pads compare to ceramic? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ceramic brakes Wuz:This is bad
FWIW: I have never had ceramic pads on an MB. ALL stop well, no problems with fade, etc with the cheap or midrange pads. The very cheapest pads are ok, they just make your wheels dirtier. Midrange are a little less dirty for the wheels. OE on the MBs were organic or asbestos, depending on age. (pre 1990 MBs) OE on the dogde were ceramic, so I used ceramic there. DO you want or care about clean wheels? Ceramic will keep your wheels cleaner. I've had very good luck with cheap pads from oreely. They do make your wheels dirty. I just clean and paint the wheels every few years with a rattlecan. Unless you are driving on a race track, the cheap (organic) pads work very well. If you plan to drag the brakes all the way down a mountain, they may fade, but I never have any problem. Ceramic on the dogde van: The anti skid accelerometer has been fubar mostly since we got the van. Most of the time the system turns itself off, but sometimes the LF brake drags. this ruins the discs and pads. About 18 months ago I put new pads and rotors on; did the ceramic pad breakin stuff; and they were wonderful. Unfortunately, i never figured out how to snip the purple wire somewhere buried under the console that is said to disable the antiskid system. So the new rotors and pads are ruined. I recently dug in to the console innards and found the accelerometer. I never found the purple wire, but I unplugged the accelerometer, with the same effect. Anti skid is now dead. There are 2 fuses you can pull to disable, but it also kills the speedometer, odometer and some other somewhat necessary systems. This is all not really the fault of ceramic pads, but i don't think the cheap pads would cause the rotor warping like these did. The whole deal of the special breakin procedure for the ceramic pads is related to not warping the rotors and putting a glaze on the ceramic pad. How do organic pads compare to ceramic? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Urgent repair shop needed in central mass
So now we have an approved repair facility we can rely on if we're passing through northern New Jersey? I tried sending this when you originally posted, but the OkieISP must have been on the blink. There is a forum on Benzworld listing repair facilities all over the U.S. By region and city. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/recommended-repair-shops/ Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 5, 2015, at 10:20 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks guys he ended up with a tow trunk to my house in northern NJ. I rebuilt the pump... he had the kits in the trunk oddly enough. The new diaphragm tore nearly immediately. The kits were made in Taiwan. So now Gary has to find me quality parts so I can get this thing fixed and out of my garage this weekend! Jaime On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No ideas, its well outside of my operating area. Theres a TDI guy in Agawam, oops I guess its Westfield, that might be worth calling. If he can't help he might know somebody who can. Mike McCannaka 94xWestfield, MA 01085413-455-5602TDIMike@comcast.netASE Certified L1 Master Automotive Technician for over 15 years. I have the necessary TDI diagnostic and specialty tools to perform the job correctly. Many parts in stock to reduce down time. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com; mercedes merce...@mercedeslist.com Cc: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:09 AM Subject: [MBZ] Urgent repair shop needed in central mass Hi all, I have a friend off of I-84 just south of the mass pike who broke down in his 77 300D. Sounds like a vacuum pump failure... Engine runs fine, but brakes are hard and there are no vacuum functions working. Anyone have a shop in the area to recommend? He needs to get back to NJ soon, but repair might be a better option than a tow and local repair. Thanks, Jaime -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Jacks
Umm. I'd submit that either you don't have a very good jack (you're sure its a 20 ton and not a 2 ton? 2 ton bottle jack is maybe 3 in diameter, 20 ton is more like 6) or you've got a very heavy cottage. Maybe 13 years ago the floor in my grandmother's house was sagging really bad under the fridge. We cut a 6x8 hole in the floor and found a broken beam. We sistered 2x8s on to both sides and jacked both broken pieces into place, then ran bolts through the 2x8s and the other piece of beam, put another 2x8 under it and fashioned a post under that. All the jacking for that job was done with a 5 ton bottle jack since we couldn't find the 20. My grandmother's house is quite large, 2 stories with high ceilings, built around 1850 if I remember right. We weren't lifting the whole house on that job but the fridge backed up against an interior wall which had settled a bit more than an inch so we were lifting the interior of the house. You could also see some bow come out of the ceiling. That one we lifted over two days. Had to cordon off the hole in the floor lest somebody forget and stumble into it on the way to get a drink of water in the night. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 2:27 PM Subject: OT Jacks When I jack the cottage to level it, it makes the 20 ton jacks work. Last summer I bought a bunch of the big old screw jacks. 6 of them are about 2 feet tall and I think I have 6 that are about 1 foot or a bit more and thenI have 3 or 4 smaller ones. The idea with these is that you can leave them in place and give them a half turn every couple of weeks and slowly move a building back up where it should be without much danger of tearing things apart or breaking glass. There is an addition on the south side of my house sitting on a grade beam on bell piles that has settled and I hope to raise it back up at some point. Unfortunately, it has a crawl space that is not easy to get into and I may have to cut a hole in the floor in the den in order to gain sufficient access. When I built the addition, I left a small opening and put a trap door in the floor of a closet. Big enough to get in and out but not all that good for hauling in lumber to build a beam to jack on. I would also have to cut the stucco on the exterior and find and release the bolts or cut them so that the building could be slowly lifted off of the grade beam and up where it should be. Then I would need to fill the gap and restucco the outside. I would also have to cap the poured doorsteps on both the east and west sides as they are part of the gradebeam and are down too. Not too obvious now but if the house were levelled, then the porches would be very obviously out of whack. The addition is 10 feet wide and 30 feet long and 2 storeys high. It has settled about 2 inches on the outer edge and 2 inches on 10 feet is obvious when I walk from the original house into the new part. No plumbing or kitchen or bath etc. so not too much to cause other issues. I think that the pull on that side of the house has altered the whole house as some of the doors in the original house do not stay open on their own now etc. I think, that if it was slowly moved back where it started, it should sort out most of the issues that have been created by the fact that the addition settled. The house was built new in 1981 and the addition added in 1987 so none of it is ancient. That is why I acquired all of these jacks. RB On 07/08/2015 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I know, I was embarrassed to have to bring it but I forgot the 20 at camp... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad A 12 ton jack is a small tool. RB On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except driving nails. Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you don't use small tools. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH and they popped right out.
Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe
On 07/08/2015 3:33 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: FTE master cylinder arrived last night about 8:30 p.m., I had half a day off so I installed it after lunch. Did not bench bleed it, just used the power bleeder and pushed fresh fluid out to all four wheels. Pedal feel is exactly like before (mushy) but it has always been mushy on that car. I may decide to try a different brake booster. What causes a mushy brake pedal other than air or bad MC? Time for new brake hoses at all four corners? At first, the pedal would sink, just like with the last MC. I drove it around the block and stopped hard a few times, and it got better. Doesn't sink now, brakes do their thing just fine, no pulling. I may get some more brake fluid and try bleeding it some more. I think I'll drive this car for a few days and see how it performs. - Max Charleston SC ___ I think I would bleed the brakes some more. My son replaced some rusted brake lines on an old 4Runner that we had a few years back and had a devil of a time getting a good pedal. I think he bled it about 4 times before he got all of the air out. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime warranty. I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure 46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ. Inner, not so good. The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on it. The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a deep well is required. I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut pushes on). Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy. Poor little harbor freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push it. I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming. Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the front pad(s) are low. It was winking at first, went off while backing up, but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the disc might be contacting the sensor now. I may pull the sensor connection off at that pad and see if that clears the light. Good excuse to install Akebono ceramic pads. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Too late for that. If I make a command decision and just get'er done, as long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness. Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just best to keep her totally in the loop. Plan B it is, until a better option comes along. Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the garage tonight. - Max Charleston SC My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so long as I just did it. She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has sat in the garage since I had brake issues a while back. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More ac
It apparently got stuck on last night, I woke up this morning to 67 in the house. The electric bill is probably not going the be pleasant. Welded contacts are not all that rare, if it's built with the tech that is susceptible to that. Not all that hard to patch, either. Or to cure. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More ac
Wife is calling home warranty people today to see if they fix it, if not I guess I will dive into it Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It apparently got stuck on last night, I woke up this morning to 67 in the house. The electric bill is probably not going the be pleasant. Welded contacts are not all that rare, if it's built with the tech that is susceptible to that. Not all that hard to patch, either. Or to cure. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime warranty. I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure 46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ. Inner, not so good. The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on it. The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a deep well is required. I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut pushes on). Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy. Poor little harbor freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push it. I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming. Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the front pad(s) are low. It was winking at first, went off while backing up, but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the disc might be contacting the sensor now. I may pull the sensor connection off at that pad and see if that clears the light. Good excuse to install Akebono ceramic pads. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Too late for that. If I make a command decision and just get'er done, as long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness. Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just best to keep her totally in the loop. Plan B it is, until a better option comes along. Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the garage tonight. - Max Charleston SC My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so long as I just did it. She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has sat in the garage since I had brake issues a while back. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] testing
6:05pm EDT, 8-7-15 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No more sinking, maybe
FTE master cylinder arrived last night about 8:30 p.m., I had half a day off so I installed it after lunch. Did not bench bleed it, just used the power bleeder and pushed fresh fluid out to all four wheels. Pedal feel is exactly like before (mushy) but it has always been mushy on that car. I may decide to try a different brake booster. What causes a mushy brake pedal other than air or bad MC? Time for new brake hoses at all four corners? At first, the pedal would sink, just like with the last MC. I drove it around the block and stopped hard a few times, and it got better. Doesn't sink now, brakes do their thing just fine, no pulling. I may get some more brake fluid and try bleeding it some more. I think I'll drive this car for a few days and see how it performs. - Max Charleston SC ___ I am guessing you did not get all the air out of the master. Did you bench bleed it first? If not, it probably had air in it. Often when driving, the master will bleed the air into the reservoir, or worse, the new rubber will rip or tear or scuff and you end up with a new leaky MC. It is handy to have a junker around to borrow old MC lines from. cut them 6-8 long and bend them so they go back into the MC. Put on short rubber hoses that go under the fluid surface. Put the MC in a vice, fill, then run the plunger to the stop and back out several times until no more air bubbles come out. Anyhow, if the pedal is firm now, you probably have all the air out. waytago! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ? for the easterners
On Aug 4, 2015 12:26 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I vowed to return and do the tour by myself, but have never returned. The older Cub Scouts here (central NC) go annually, well worth the trip. I think we've aged out of the trip, at least until the baby is in Webelos. To the original question, we tend to visit: Savannah Myrtle Beach NC Outer Banks / eastern forests Savannah is a nice historic city, my wife and I go there on long weekends without children. (Charleston has a similar reputation, but I've never stayed in the city personally.) We always stay in the historic section of Savannah, where it is easy to walk to various places / monuments / squares. It is heavily dependent on summer tourism so I don't know what is closed in winter, but the displays should be up if you like walking and touring. I have been satisfied with my walking guidebook of Savannah, though we did take a ghost tour one year that was fun. Savannah is a working port, so you can find anything you want in the city proper year-round. Myrtle has a lot of stuff to do if you want to try different restaurants, see shows, etc., and also sit on the beach. We take the kids there most Thanksgivings (and I usually wear a light jacket at most). It is the Vegas of SC, without the legal gambling but with an ocean. Not my thing but the wife and kids prefer it. The ocean water is cool by November but tolerable. If you are a swimmer many hotels have indoor pools that use filtered ocean water, so you can have the experience without the ick. The Outer Banks are good if you like to explore nature. Lots of fishing and swimming (maybe not so much of the latter in winter). There's a lot of hiking - big forests on the mainland, too - if that appeals. You'd be comfortable in a light jacket, but probably not without. It is cheap to visit the OB in winter, but you may have to bring in and prepare your own food and drink as a lot of the businesses are closed. Personally I would stay out of Florida, maybe bring along a functional but dirty 140 to lure Penoff north. Refugees from Florida have told me St. Aug is decent, but as you go south you lose the Southern vibe and it gets nasty fast. That said if you want to swim in the ocean you may need to go there, and if so I'm sorry... In your shoes I'd probably go to Charleston for the company/ocean or Savannah for the history, and I think you'll find it's pretty comfortable in either. Just wanted to present some alternatives that might make for different kinds of trips. Hope you have a great time! Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gold (and everything else) is crashing
On Aug 3, 2015 11:22 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Washington Porst reporter binge-read ALL of Trump's books over a single weekend! His observtions are worth noting, since he is the likely R standard bearer. I'm just curious if hire an assistant man has read them all himself. I'm not particularly surprised the reporter thinks they are disjointed. Once upon a time a tool guy told me Colin Powell does his own work on his Volvos. Why isn't he running? In other news, I got to spend 20 minutes looking at the SDLs' engines the other day. More on that later, the up shot is that I'm feeling better about moving the 300's engine rather than just the head. Best, Tim Not running for president ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
A 12 ton jack is a small tool. RB On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except driving nails. Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you don't use small tools. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH and they popped right out. Had to do this 2-3 times recently. Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ. I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I gotten lucky. This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and I really like it. Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits. Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather) I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the car, then measure / adjust the toe-in. Another way would be to make two parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust. Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper works better. I've never made the homemade caliper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
I know, I was embarrassed to have to bring it but I forgot the 20 at camp... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad A 12 ton jack is a small tool. RB On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except driving nails. Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you don't use small tools. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH and they popped right out. Had to do this 2-3 times recently. Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ. I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I gotten lucky. This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and I really like it. Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits. Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather) I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the car, then measure / adjust the toe-in. Another way would be to make two parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust. Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper works better. I've never made the homemade caliper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper works better. I've never made the homemade caliper. New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime warranty. I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure 46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ. Inner, not so good. The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on it. The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a deep well is required. I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut pushes on). Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy. Poor little harbor freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push it. I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming. Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the front pad(s) are low. It was winking at first, went off while backing up, but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the disc might be contacting the sensor now. I may pull the sensor connection off at that pad and see if that clears the light. Good excuse to install Akebono ceramic pads. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT gold (and everything else) is crashing
She was younger so obviously had to be his niece. On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I used to work for this guy who had a townhouse in Alexandria when CP was Chairman of the JCOS, and quite married. Many evenings a black Town Car would pull up to a woman's town house across the street and CP would get out and go in, car would leave. Car would show up the next morning early and collect CP. Apparently he was just visiting his niece rather than take the longer ride home. Yeah, that's the ticket... --R On 8/7/15 6:21 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes wrote: Once upon a time a tool guy told me Colin Powell does his own work on his Volvos. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime warranty. I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure 46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ. Inner, not so good. The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up into the engine compartment, so that there is no room to get a wrench on it. The nut is 24mm, and the only sockets I have for that are normal depth; a deep well is required. I don't own a 24mm deep well socket, so I made a spacer from a Harbor Freight 32mm socket by cutting off about 10mm (there is a 32mm counter-hold point on the tool just below the part that the nut pushes on). Took me about an hour to cut off that 10mm and grind the edge flat; this was an impact wrench socket, pretty beefy. Poor little harbor freight bench grinder with a cut-off wheel at one end and a course grinding stone at the other, gets the job done but easily bogs down so I don't push it. I carefully measure the distance between the ends of the old tie-rod, and adjust new to match, but of course the steering wheel is now cocked at about 1:00, so an alignment is forthcoming. Odd thing was that immediately after the work, at the first start-up for a test drive, the brake pad sensor light decided to light up and tell me the front pad(s) are low. It was winking at first, went off while backing up, but then after a few yards of forward motion it stayed on steady. Took the left front wheel off again to make sure I didn't mess that up, couldn't find anything, and that inner pad does indeed look a little thin and the disc might be contacting the sensor now. I may pull the sensor connection off at that pad and see if that clears the light. Good excuse to install Akebono ceramic pads. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Too late for that. If I make a command decision and just get'er done, as long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness. Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just best to keep her totally in the loop. Plan B it is, until a better option comes along. Lots of rain and lightening here now, may have to move the work into the garage tonight. - Max Charleston SC My good wife would not care what I spent or how I got the car fixed so long as I just did it. She has been giving me a hard time about the length of time my car has sat in the garage since I had brake issues a while back. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH and they popped right out. Had to do this 2-3 times recently. Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ. I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I gotten lucky. This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and I really like it. Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits. Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather) I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the car, then measure / adjust the toe-in. Another way would be to make two parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust. Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper works better. I've never made the homemade caliper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More ac
Well it's supposedly fixed. They sent somebody out. It had some wires that were shorting out so it was not reading the thermostat or something. I am not sure what wires as I was not there. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wife is calling home warranty people today to see if they fix it, if not I guess I will dive into it Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It apparently got stuck on last night, I woke up this morning to 67 in the house. The electric bill is probably not going the be pleasant. Welded contacts are not all that rare, if it's built with the tech that is susceptible to that. Not all that hard to patch, either. Or to cure. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ?
Well Wilton I would rush to buy that book. Don't think you need to remember it all to make your point. One of my good friends in my 20's 30's was a WWII Marine vet who taught me a lot of the BS from them. SOSDD On Aug 6, 2015 10:57 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, the absolute biggest one of our time, no, not just of our time, but for the nation's entire history, is the whole tragedy of the Vietnam War. I'll think about it some more and see if I can remember enough of the BS de jour during my 22 years active to compile. (Some of it is already in other stuff I've written.) I remember thinking and saying at the time that there was something all the time. Now, with 40+ years of retrospect, It seems hard to separate the general BS into specific events. So much of the BS de jour that seemed so important in our lives at the time seems very petty now. In trying to overcome some of the BS de jour, I took great pride (still do) in trying to use some common sense in every situation. Wilton - Original Message - From: Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? Wilton.I'd pay good money to read such a book! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 14:54:06 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] ? From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: wilt...@nc.rr.com And I understood very well while taking no offense whatever. ;) BTW, Fred, I didn't get along very well with the military BS, either. 'Wish I had taken good notes to write a sizable book on some the unbelievable crap we all endured. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Jacks
When I jack the cottage to level it, it makes the 20 ton jacks work. Last summer I bought a bunch of the big old screw jacks. 6 of them are about 2 feet tall and I think I have 6 that are about 1 foot or a bit more and thenI have 3 or 4 smaller ones. The idea with these is that you can leave them in place and give them a half turn every couple of weeks and slowly move a building back up where it should be without much danger of tearing things apart or breaking glass. There is an addition on the south side of my house sitting on a grade beam on bell piles that has settled and I hope to raise it back up at some point. Unfortunately, it has a crawl space that is not easy to get into and I may have to cut a hole in the floor in the den in order to gain sufficient access. When I built the addition, I left a small opening and put a trap door in the floor of a closet. Big enough to get in and out but not all that good for hauling in lumber to build a beam to jack on. I would also have to cut the stucco on the exterior and find and release the bolts or cut them so that the building could be slowly lifted off of the grade beam and up where it should be. Then I would need to fill the gap and restucco the outside. I would also have to cap the poured doorsteps on both the east and west sides as they are part of the gradebeam and are down too. Not too obvious now but if the house were levelled, then the porches would be very obviously out of whack. The addition is 10 feet wide and 30 feet long and 2 storeys high. It has settled about 2 inches on the outer edge and 2 inches on 10 feet is obvious when I walk from the original house into the new part. No plumbing or kitchen or bath etc. so not too much to cause other issues. I think that the pull on that side of the house has altered the whole house as some of the doors in the original house do not stay open on their own now etc. I think, that if it was slowly moved back where it started, it should sort out most of the issues that have been created by the fact that the addition settled. The house was built new in 1981 and the addition added in 1987 so none of it is ancient. That is why I acquired all of these jacks. RB On 07/08/2015 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I know, I was embarrassed to have to bring it but I forgot the 20 at camp... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad A 12 ton jack is a small tool. RB On 07/08/2015 10:31 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except driving nails. Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you don't use small tools. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH and they popped right out. Had to do this 2-3 times recently. Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ. I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I gotten lucky. This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and I really like it. Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits. Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather) I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the car, then measure / adjust the toe-in. Another way would be to make two parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust. Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper works
Re: [MBZ] This is bad
Claw hammers are for driving nails, machinists hammers are for machines... I think mine is a 3# hammer but it gets used for basically everything except driving nails. Shoulda seen my father-in-law last week when I was unloading my house jacking tools, 5# hammer, 12 ton jack, 4x4 post. If you're going to lift a house you don't use small tools. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a crowbar and the 2 lb LFH and they popped right out. Had to do this 2-3 times recently. Same technique should work for tie rod ends/BJ. I always try a few blows with a regular hammer, I think only once have I gotten lucky. This tool was about $50 or so, bought back when Rusty was in business, and I really like it. Position, tighten up a bit and check to make sure it's holding, crank it down nice and snug (three or four white knuckles of torque), hammer the end contacting the threaded portion of the joint and the joint usually pops right out after a couple hits. Someday when I've got some time to play (maybe today, depending on weather) I will try making a perfect box with string around the perimeter of the car, then measure / adjust the toe-in. Another way would be to make two parallel lines with string, then drive the car between and measure/adjust. Would be so nice to have a pit or a lift for this work. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe fairly close with just a tape, the the homemade caliper works better. I've never made the homemade caliper. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Jacks
Its hard to judge how hard the jack is working other than how effectively its trying to bury itself in the ground. Often when jacking a house like my grandmother's that doesn't have a foundation we'll have a tough time since we need to dig down to get the jack under somewhere. I've got a couple 2x8 blocks to put under it but the footprint is often still too small. I learned my lesson on this helping my uncle jack the other side of the wall Dad and I raised when he rebuilt the bathroom. We got the jack good and buried but then couldn't get it to go back down until we dug all around it to get to the release... Now if its sinking I'll put the load back down and crib the base better... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Jacks On 07/08/2015 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Umm. I'd submit that either you don't have a very good jack (you're sure its a 20 ton and not a 2 ton? 2 ton bottle jack is maybe 3 in diameter, 20 ton is more like 6) or you've got a very heavy cottage. Maybe 13 years ago the floor in my grandmother's house was sagging really bad under the fridge. We cut a 6x8 hole in the floor and found a broken beam. We sistered 2x8s on to both sides and jacked both broken pieces into place, then ran bolts through the 2x8s and the other piece of beam, put another 2x8 under it and fashioned a post under that. All the jacking for that job was done with a 5 ton bottle jack since we couldn't find the 20. My grandmother's house is quite large, 2 stories with high ceilings, built around 1850 if I remember right. We weren't lifting the whole house on that job but the fridge backed up against an interior wall which had settled a bit more than an inch so we were lifting the interior of the house. You could also see some bow come out of the ceiling. That one we lifted over two days. Had to cordon off the hole in the floor lest somebody forget and stumble into it on the way to get a drink of water in the night. -Curt Now, having said that the jacks I was using out at the lake were 20 ton, I will admit that I did not try lifting the cottage with a smaller one. I have a smaller hydraulic jack - maybe 8 ton that I used to carry around in my 68 Chevy pickup because the original jack did not work and it is out at the lake since we sold the truck. I also have a 12 ton in a smaller hydraulic press here in the city that I have offered to let my son take home but is still sitting in my garage. How can you tell I am a pack-rat when it comes to tools??? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No more sinking, maybe
FTE master cylinder arrived last night about 8:30 p.m., I had half a day off so I installed it after lunch. Did not bench bleed it, just used the power bleeder and pushed fresh fluid out to all four wheels. Pedal feel is exactly like before (mushy) but it has always been mushy on that car. I may decide to try a different brake booster. What causes a mushy brake pedal other than air or bad MC? Time for new brake hoses at all four corners? At first, the pedal would sink, just like with the last MC. I drove it around the block and stopped hard a few times, and it got better. Doesn't sink now, brakes do their thing just fine, no pulling. I may get some more brake fluid and try bleeding it some more. I think I'll drive this car for a few days and see how it performs. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Jacks
On 07/08/2015 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Its hard to judge how hard the jack is working other than how effectively its trying to bury itself in the ground. Often when jacking a house like my grandmother's that doesn't have a foundation we'll have a tough time since we need to dig down to get the jack under somewhere. I've got a couple 2x8 blocks to put under it but the footprint is often still too small. I learned my lesson on this helping my uncle jack the other side of the wall Dad and I raised when he rebuilt the bathroom. We got the jack good and buried but then couldn't get it to go back down until we dug all around it to get to the release... Now if its sinking I'll put the load back down and crib the base better... -Curt Yes, I have been there too. The garage at the lake is open on one side on the bottom like a carport. The other side is closed in etc and there is a 2nd floor above both sides used for storage. The garage is settling some and a few years ago my son and I jacked up the outer wall of the carport some. I intended to lift it more the following day but it rained hard that night and filled the holes that we had dug for the jack full of water. I tried to bail them out so we could continue our project but then the ground was so soft we were just pushing the jack into the ground. I filled in the holes with gravel that had been dug out of them and waited for a better day. Sadly that day has yet to come and the garage is still down on that side - now worse than ever. I do need to get back to it but now I need to move a bunch of stuff out of the way so I can get to the outer wall -including my boat which could be moved as it is sitting on a trailer but is a job because I have to move other stuff so I can move the trailer. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] More ac
It apparently got stuck on last night, I woke up this morning to 67 in the house. The electric bill is probably not going the be pleasant. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Burial at Sea
http://www.thesandgram.com/2009/07/28/burial-at-sea-by-ltcol-george-goodson-usmc-ret/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
