date:20180410


Sipes  You hunt snipes.  tars have sipes.  Microsipes are good.

G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Look for tires with extra sipes in the tread. The little slots that open
up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.





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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

These days, I look for something rated AA 400 or better.   AB 300 is 
probably the lowest grade acceptable for a Dissel.


I think AA is roughly equivalent to an H rated yuro tar.   And AB is 
roughly equivalent to an S rated yuro tar.


I have thus far avoided kumho and han kook tars because of quality 
concerns. (and who wants a tar made by any kook?)   Tars made in yurp 
are the best.  After that, I tend to go for Made in USA, although the 
record for Made in USA radial tars is not good.  badly out of balance, 
prone to slip belts, poor wet or schnee/eis traction, etc.The only 
slipped belts I've ever had in yurpeen tars is frog michelins in the 
early 70s.  I ran yurpeen tars on MB, Frod van, Plymouth Valiant, 
datsoon? Peekup, etc, with no problems.


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Look at the reviews on tirerack. Those kumhos seem kinda soft as some report 
they wear out fast. They also had a super performance type for a bit more that 
was probably softer. I don’t know about wet conditions though. Sometimes that 
depends on the tread design not how soft.

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

I had the kuhmo on the w124.  Not really impressed with them.

Nokians were less than gripping on the w220.  Maybe they are better near 
absolute zero.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Look at the reviews on tirerack. Those kumhos seem kinda soft as some report 
> they wear out fast. They also had a super performance type for a bit more 
> that was probably softer. I don’t know about wet conditions though. Sometimes 
> that depends on the tread design not how soft. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:28 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody 
>> have a recommendation?  
>> 
>> They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or 
>> overly cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use for 
>> DD.  Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
>>> prices were decent last year.
>>> -- 
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>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Look for tires with extra snipes in the tread. The little slots that open
up and channel water out of the tread to stop hydroplaning.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:28 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody
> have a recommendation?
>
> They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or
> overly cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use
> for DD.  Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and
> online prices were decent last year.
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> > Charleston SC
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> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Look at the reviews on tirerack. Those kumhos seem kinda soft as some report 
they wear out fast. They also had a super performance type for a bit more that 
was probably softer. I don’t know about wet conditions though. Sometimes that 
depends on the tread design not how soft. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:28 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody 
> have a recommendation?  
> 
> They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or 
> overly cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use for 
> DD.  Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
>> prices were decent last year.
>> -- 
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>> Charleston SC
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>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

I am needing the stickiest 14” tires I can find to put on the SD.  Anybody have 
a recommendation?  

They will need to stick like glue in the rain, not much need for snow or overly 
cold use, since it does not get that cold in PNW.  Year round use for DD.  
Present rubber is yoko’smama which do not hold road well enough.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
> prices were decent last year.
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape

2018-04-10 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Back when Rusty was in the process of selling out and closing his business, I 
ordered 2 Bilstein regular duty shocks. He send me 2 Bilstein HD shocks. 
I installed them on the rear anyway and the ride was the same as yours.
Now I need 2 for the front and I'm wondering if the regulars on the front will 
play nice with the HD's on the back, or if I should get HD's for the front as 
well?
Gerry

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 09:45:06 -0400
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:

> People seem to get caught buying the HD Bilsteins from time to time.  I got a 
> set for my former 300SD and hated them. They were so hard you could feel 
> every little bump/crack/rock in the road.  In a car that was more of a high 
> performance sort of vehicle I could see it, but not in an S class.
> 
> Knowing what I do now I always go for the standard Bilstein.  On a related 
> note, a dealer tech I know says that rear shocks rarely ever wear out.  He 
> said of all the (stock/original) rear shocks he’s replaced over 20+ years 
> he’s hardly ever found a set that warranted replacement.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I put some KYB struts and shocks in SWMBO's Infiniti, and they ride almost
> > like rocks, WAY too stiff for me.  Not bad for short trips around town and
> > on smooth highway drives, but not at all suitable for a long day in the
> > car.  At the time it was hard to justify the $300 / strut cost from the
> > Stealership vs. about $80 from Rusty for the KYB, but now I know why...
> > 
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

The last tars I bought are Barum (yurpeen Continental sub-brand) or 
nokia n.  so far so good, but too soon to tell.  Cooper cs 3 or 5 may 
suit your use, but may not get beyond 50 k miles.


Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get some 
new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a 
Benz decade.

What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
Something else?

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:59:04 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
> Nokian?  Something else?

What size tires does it use?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

Not threatening, they’ll do it.  At least they used to.  I know of a couple of 
instances where we did it and they cancelled our return leg.

F- it.  We rebooked and still paid less.  The privileges of corporate travel.

-D


> On Apr 10, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Last I knew airlines were threatening to cancel your return trip if you 
> missed a flight midway. They have some super BS excuse for not letting you do 
> it that boils down to "We don't like it when people game the system."
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:57:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you know how you can fly “open jaw”.  It’s not that hard to do, but most 
> ticket booking sites don’t support it.  You can use Google’s ITA matrix to do 
> it.  Hipmunk will let you do stuff like this, too.
> 
> It takes some effort to use these tools to find the cheapest route, but 20-30 
> minutes of messing around with various combinations can often yield some 
> pretty good deals.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Apr 10, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > What happens more often is that its cheaper to fly to a layover spot 
> > without making the next leg. So say for instance I really wanted to go to 
> > Charlotte, sometimes its cheaper to book a flight to Miami through 
> > Charlotte than it is to go to Charlotte. So people just stop at the 
> > mid-point. Obviously you can only do it if you carry on your bags otherwise 
> > they end up in Miami...
> > Airlines are super cracking down on that now, I don't understand why 
> > though, its cheaper for them to not fly me that second leg...
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> > 
> >On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:41:33 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:  
> > 
> > Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
> > flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.
> > 
> > Flights are all on AA.
> > 
> > Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
> > hours.
> > 
> > If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
> > CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.
> > 
> > I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
> > try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
> > and deny boarding.
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

Apparently a lot of other people do too, or the clickbait title is doing its 
job. Its got more views than the video that preceded it.
-Curt
 

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 4:20:39 PM EDT, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I liked this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE


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POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find 
> interesting:https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released the 
> other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some 
> cheap LED lanterns.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

Last I knew airlines were threatening to cancel your return trip if you missed 
a flight midway. They have some super BS excuse for not letting you do it that 
boils down to "We don't like it when people game the system."

-Curt
 

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:57:58 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 If you know how you can fly “open jaw”.  It’s not that hard to do, but most 
ticket booking sites don’t support it.  You can use Google’s ITA matrix to do 
it.  Hipmunk will let you do stuff like this, too.

It takes some effort to use these tools to find the cheapest route, but 20-30 
minutes of messing around with various combinations can often yield some pretty 
good deals.

-D




> On Apr 10, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What happens more often is that its cheaper to fly to a layover spot without 
> making the next leg. So say for instance I really wanted to go to Charlotte, 
> sometimes its cheaper to book a flight to Miami through Charlotte than it is 
> to go to Charlotte. So people just stop at the mid-point. Obviously you can 
> only do it if you carry on your bags otherwise they end up in Miami...
> Airlines are super cracking down on that now, I don't understand why though, 
> its cheaper for them to not fly me that second leg...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
>    On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:41:33 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
> flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.
> 
> Flights are all on AA.
> 
> Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
> hours.
> 
> If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
> CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.
> 
> I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
> try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
> and deny boarding.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward


Wonder what their fording depth is

--FT


On 4/10/18 6:23 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Those look decent, good wet grip which is key for hurricane season.


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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Those look decent, good wet grip which is key for hurricane season.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On April 10, 2018 6:15:55 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I make you good price sailor!
>
>I see these Kumhos on Tirerack, with $75 rebate they come to $62/tire 
>which is pretty good.  Someone said these are OK tires? I could go with
>
>that.  They have some local installers they will ship them to, their 
>warehouse is just down Savannah so it wouldn't take but a coupla days
>to 
>get here.
>
>https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho=Ecsta+PA31=155VR6PA31XL=true=yes=Mercedes-Benz=1999=E300%20Diesel=
>
>--FT
>
>
>On 4/10/18 6:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>>
>>> I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It
>runs well still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to
>start but did light off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well.
>I think I’m  gonna get some new cheap tires for it and get it on the
>road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a Benz decade.
>>>
>>> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and
>Nokian?  Something else?
>>>
>>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

I had good luck with Hankooks, too.  They were pretty reasonably priced, I 
thought.

-D


> On Apr 10, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> I make you good price sailor!
> 
> I see these Kumhos on Tirerack, with $75 rebate they come to $62/tire which 
> is pretty good.  Someone said these are OK tires? I could go with that.  They 
> have some local installers they will ship them to, their warehouse is just 
> down Savannah so it wouldn't take but a coupla days to get here.
> 
> https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho=Ecsta+PA31=155VR6PA31XL=true=yes=Mercedes-Benz=1999=E300%20Diesel=
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 4/10/18 6:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
>>> still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did 
>>> light off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  
>>> gonna get some new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like 
>>> jumping ahead a Benz decade.
>>> 
>>> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
>>> Something else?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

I make you good price sailor!

I see these Kumhos on Tirerack, with $75 rebate they come to $62/tire
which is pretty good. Someone said these are OK tires? I could go with
that. They have some local installers they will ship them to, their
warehouse is just down Savannah so it wouldn't take but a coupla days to
get here.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho=Ecsta+PA31=155VR6PA31XL=true=yes=Mercedes-Benz=1999=E300%20Diesel=

--FT

On 4/10/18 6:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well
still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light
off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m gonna get some
new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a
Benz decade.

What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting? Kumho and Nokian?
Something else?

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

I've got some kuhmo solus ta71 on two of my Benz, happy so far and online 
prices were decent last year.
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Re: [MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

You will hate it. The car wants to live in OK.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
> still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
> off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get 
> some new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping 
> ahead a Benz decade. 
> 
> What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
> Something else?
> 
> --R
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[MBZ] Great Leap Forward

2018-04-10 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

I drove this $500 99 E300 dizzel a shorts ways this afternoon. It runs well 
still has a bad GP or 2 maybe so is a little reluctant to start but did light 
off with some clouds of smoke. Handles really well. I think I’m  gonna get some 
new cheap tires for it and get it on the road. It’ll be like jumping ahead a 
Benz decade. 

What were the cheepcheep tires y’all were suggesting?  Kumho and Nokian?  
Something else?

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

2018-04-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Another way to improve and LED lantern would be to fill it with water - use
glue or tape if needed to keep the water in, then shoot it with something
like a .30-06. This works a treat with things like empty beer cans . . .

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find interesting:
> https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released
> the other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some
> cheap LED lanterns.
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

I liked this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVFAsBNGWnE


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 10, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find 
> interesting:https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released the 
> other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some 
> cheap LED lanterns.
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Re: [MBZ] Copra copart 560

I have a few of the relay on the parts shelf.  003 545 25 05

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:43 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall that model has a fuel pump relay on the firewall, or
> behind the glove box somewhere that is prone to failure and will cause the
> pump to not work.
> 
> Might want to check that first. The test is to access the fuel pump
> connection plug, then with key on, test for power to the fuel pump. No
> power, likely the relay is malfunctioned.
> 
> It's been a while since I've dealt with one, so memory may not be perfect.
> I do recall the relay is much easier to change out than the fuel pump...
> may want to start there. ;)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Attaboy! Your perseverance rewarded.
>> 
>> On Apr 9, 2018 6:13 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> They keys arrived today. I threw a battery in it and cranked on it but it
>> did not start. Darn. Did not sound like the fuel pump was running. I would
>> think I should be able to hear it for a second or 2 when it quits cranking.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

I used to do this a lot when I flew for business, as you would often get 
screwed flying into airports that were hubs, such as Minneapolis or SFO. I 
could fly from MKE to SEA via MSP for maybe $300.  To fly to from MKE to MSP 
might be $500+.

We would often book trips that overlapped to do this when our schedules 
permitted it.  Otherwise, if you booked a round trip and terminated before your 
destination a lot of airlines will cancel the whole itinerary.  Of course, 
you’ve got to carry on your baggage as someone mentioned previously.

-D

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What happens more often is that its cheaper to fly to a layover spot without 
> making the next leg. So say for instance I really wanted to go to Charlotte, 
> sometimes its cheaper to book a flight to Miami through Charlotte than it is 
> to go to Charlotte. So people just stop at the mid-point. Obviously you can 
> only do it if you carry on your bags otherwise they end up in Miami...
> Airlines are super cracking down on that now, I don't understand why though, 
> its cheaper for them to not fly me that second leg...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

If you know how you can fly “open jaw”.  It’s not that hard to do, but most 
ticket booking sites don’t support it.  You can use Google’s ITA matrix to do 
it.  Hipmunk will let you do stuff like this, too.

It takes some effort to use these tools to find the cheapest route, but 20-30 
minutes of messing around with various combinations can often yield some pretty 
good deals.

-D




> On Apr 10, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What happens more often is that its cheaper to fly to a layover spot without 
> making the next leg. So say for instance I really wanted to go to Charlotte, 
> sometimes its cheaper to book a flight to Miami through Charlotte than it is 
> to go to Charlotte. So people just stop at the mid-point. Obviously you can 
> only do it if you carry on your bags otherwise they end up in Miami...
> Airlines are super cracking down on that now, I don't understand why though, 
> its cheaper for them to not fly me that second leg...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:41:33 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
> flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.
> 
> Flights are all on AA.
> 
> Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
> hours.
> 
> If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
> CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.
> 
> I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
> try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
> and deny boarding.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

But if there is a change of planes you're scre*ed.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What happens more often is that its cheaper to fly to a layover spot
> without making the next leg. So say for instance I really wanted to go to
> Charlotte, sometimes its cheaper to book a flight to Miami through
> Charlotte than it is to go to Charlotte. So people just stop at the
> mid-point. Obviously you can only do it if you carry on your bags otherwise
> they end up in Miami...
> Airlines are super cracking down on that now, I don't understand why
> though, its cheaper for them to not fly me that second leg...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:41:33 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
> flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.
>
> Flights are all on AA.
>
> Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
> hours.
>
> If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
> CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.
>
> I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
> try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
> and deny boarding.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another magnitude 4.5 in Oklahoma

These may be manmade earthquakes as a result of fracking.

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Maybe you should consult a geologist?
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Seems like every earthquake is a 4.5 in OK.  Why is that?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

What happens more often is that its cheaper to fly to a layover spot without 
making the next leg. So say for instance I really wanted to go to Charlotte, 
sometimes its cheaper to book a flight to Miami through Charlotte than it is to 
go to Charlotte. So people just stop at the mid-point. Obviously you can only 
do it if you carry on your bags otherwise they end up in Miami...
Airlines are super cracking down on that now, I don't understand why though, 
its cheaper for them to not fly me that second leg...

-Curt
 

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:41:33 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.

Flights are all on AA.

Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
hours.

If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.

I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
and deny boarding.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

2018-04-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Yes, I would imagine so

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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
> flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.
> 
> Flights are all on AA.
> 
> Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
> hours.
> 
> If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
> CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.
> 
> I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
> try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
> and deny boarding.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

Heh, I LIKE it.
For the next one I intend to "convert" to kerosene which is a thing lots of 
guys do to whitegas lanterns because kero is generally cheaper than whitegas.
Thing is we'll need a filler port, so drill a hole in the plastic body so we 
can add kerosene. Then kerosene requires preheat so I'll have to drill a hole 
in the top part to add alcohol to preheat. Of course theres no lighting port 
but since the "globe" is plastic I can just burn through that with the torch...
Should be fun times, I'll be sure to have my safety squints engaged...
-Curt
 

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018, 1:35:36 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 OOooohh, mocking the greenie weenie gods now!  Are you sure you want to go
down that path?

Idea for next vid on "improving" the LED lantern.  Start by replacing the
body (plastic) with parts from a metal lantern, in stages.  "Reflector and
handle just don't feel right, let's replace those with these sturdy metal
parts..."  "I'd like to have the metal fuel tank, need that heft to hold
this thing down in the wind"

Next "Hmmm, this cold blue light just isn't cutting it, maybe I'll figure
out a way to make the color a little warmer by putting this old mantel over
the light..."

Soon you'll have rebuilt the LED lamp into a much-improved version, that
happens to use white gas instead of electrons...

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find interesting:
> https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released
> the other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some
> cheap LED lanterns.
> -Curt
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[MBZ] OT Airlines: Why de do dat?

Just booked a set of tix to go to Italy later this year.  Tix were $573,
flying from Miami FL to Rome, with a layover in Charlotte each way.

Flights are all on AA.

Miami is about a ten-hour drive from my house.  Charlotte is about five
hours.

If I try to book the flight from Charlotte, and skip the jump from MIA to
CLT, the cost of the tix is about 3x.

I wonder what would happen if we just show up in CLT on the travel day, and
try to get on the second leg from CLT to FCO?  AA will probably pitch a fit
and deny boarding.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Video fun times

OOooohh, mocking the greenie weenie gods now!  Are you sure you want to go
down that path?

Idea for next vid on "improving" the LED lantern.  Start by replacing the
body (plastic) with parts from a metal lantern, in stages.  "Reflector and
handle just don't feel right, let's replace those with these sturdy metal
parts..."  "I'd like to have the metal fuel tank, need that heft to hold
this thing down in the wind"

Next "Hmmm, this cold blue light just isn't cutting it, maybe I'll figure
out a way to make the color a little warmer by putting this old mantel over
the light..."

Soon you'll have rebuilt the LED lamp into a much-improved version, that
happens to use white gas instead of electrons...

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find interesting:
> https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
> The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released
> the other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
> I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some
> cheap LED lanterns.
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[MBZ] Video fun times

So I made a video for April Fools day you guys might find 
interesting:https://youtu.be/G8waJ_b_kFs
The reaction from that was pretty good so I made this followup I released the 
other day:https://youtu.be/2cF1yP-Pdjk
I'm thinking I'm going to do a series. Need to troll Amazon to find some cheap 
LED lanterns.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another magnitude 4.5 in Oklahoma


Maybe you should consult a geologist?

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Seems like every earthquake is a 4.5 in OK.  Why is that?




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Re: [MBZ] Copra copart 560

You can jumper the socket after removing the relay and see if applying 
direct power will energize the pump.  I forget which holes work the 
magic but you can find that somewhere.


--FT


On 4/10/18 12:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I seem to recall that model has a fuel pump relay on the firewall, or
behind the glove box somewhere that is prone to failure and will cause the
pump to not work.

Might want to check that first. The test is to access the fuel pump
connection plug, then with key on, test for power to the fuel pump. No
power, likely the relay is malfunctioned.

It's been a while since I've dealt with one, so memory may not be perfect.
I do recall the relay is much easier to change out than the fuel pump...
may want to start there. ;)

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Attaboy! Your perseverance rewarded.

On Apr 9, 2018 6:13 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

They keys arrived today. I threw a battery in it and cranked on it but it
did not start. Darn. Did not sound like the fuel pump was running. I would
think I should be able to hear it for a second or 2 when it quits cranking.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another magnitude 4.5 in Oklahoma

Seems like every earthquake is a 4.5 in OK.  Why is that?

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 11:26 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> We didn't feel that one. We've found that we will feel the smaller quakes
> if we're sitting still, but not if we're up moving around.
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{"autoUpdate"%3A
> > ["autoUpdate"]%2C"basemap"%3A"terrain"%2C"feed"%3A"1day_m25"%
> > 2C"listFormat"%3A"default"%2C"mapposition"%3A[[-81.92318632602198%
> > 2C-2.8125]%2C[81.92318632602199%2C402.890625]]%
> 2C"overlays"%3A["plates"]%
> > 2C"restrictListToMap"%3A["restrictListToMap"]%2C"search"
> %3Anull%2C"sort"%
> > 3A"newest"%2C"timezone"%3A"local"%2C"viewModes"%3A["map"%2C"list"]%
> > 2C"timeZone"%3A"local"%2C"event"%3Anull}
> >
> >
> > M 4.5 - 27km WSW of Perry, Oklahoma
> >
> > Time  2018-04-09 04:22:20 (UTC-06:00)
> > Location  36.217°N 97.582°W
> > Depth 3.9 km
> >
> >
> > That's not very deep ...
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Copra copart 560

2018-04-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I seem to recall that model has a fuel pump relay on the firewall, or
behind the glove box somewhere that is prone to failure and will cause the
pump to not work.

Might want to check that first. The test is to access the fuel pump
connection plug, then with key on, test for power to the fuel pump. No
power, likely the relay is malfunctioned.

It's been a while since I've dealt with one, so memory may not be perfect.
I do recall the relay is much easier to change out than the fuel pump...
may want to start there. ;)

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Attaboy! Your perseverance rewarded.
>
> On Apr 9, 2018 6:13 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> They keys arrived today. I threw a battery in it and cranked on it but it
> did not start. Darn. Did not sound like the fuel pump was running. I would
> think I should be able to hear it for a second or 2 when it quits cranking.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble

2018-04-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:46:33 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> ... so she went to some local tar shop and got some Goodyears or
> something.  She's happy, they were a bit cheaper than the Costco
> Bridgestones on sale, so I guess all is good.

At least she is not riding on something that will fail at any moment ...


Craig

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[MBZ] Early (1986) W126 560 SEC on BAT

Very pretty diamond blue Canadian spec coupe; bidding heading into the
stratosphere.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-560sec/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-04-10
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another magnitude 4.5 in Oklahoma

2018-04-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

We didn't feel that one. We've found that we will feel the smaller quakes
if we're sitting still, but not if we're up moving around.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/#{"autoUpdate"%3A
> ["autoUpdate"]%2C"basemap"%3A"terrain"%2C"feed"%3A"1day_m25"%
> 2C"listFormat"%3A"default"%2C"mapposition"%3A[[-81.92318632602198%
> 2C-2.8125]%2C[81.92318632602199%2C402.890625]]%2C"overlays"%3A["plates"]%
> 2C"restrictListToMap"%3A["restrictListToMap"]%2C"search"%3Anull%2C"sort"%
> 3A"newest"%2C"timezone"%3A"local"%2C"viewModes"%3A["map"%2C"list"]%
> 2C"timeZone"%3A"local"%2C"event"%3Anull}
>
>
> M 4.5 - 27km WSW of Perry, Oklahoma
>
> Time  2018-04-09 04:22:20 (UTC-06:00)
> Location  36.217°N 97.582°W
> Depth 3.9 km
>
>
> That's not very deep ...
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Copra copart 560

Attaboy! Your perseverance rewarded.

On Apr 9, 2018 6:13 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

They keys arrived today. I threw a battery in it and cranked on it but it
did not start. Darn. Did not sound like the fuel pump was running. I would
think I should be able to hear it for a second or 2 when it quits cranking.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape

People seem to get caught buying the HD Bilsteins from time to time.  I got a 
set for my former 300SD and hated them. They were so hard you could feel every 
little bump/crack/rock in the road.  In a car that was more of a high 
performance sort of vehicle I could see it, but not in an S class.

Knowing what I do now I always go for the standard Bilstein.  On a related 
note, a dealer tech I know says that rear shocks rarely ever wear out.  He said 
of all the (stock/original) rear shocks he’s replaced over 20+ years he’s 
hardly ever found a set that warranted replacement.

-D

> On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I put some KYB struts and shocks in SWMBO's Infiniti, and they ride almost
> like rocks, WAY too stiff for me.  Not bad for short trips around town and
> on smooth highway drives, but not at all suitable for a long day in the
> car.  At the time it was hard to justify the $300 / strut cost from the
> Stealership vs. about $80 from Rusty for the KYB, but now I know why...
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape

Just to clarify, I wasn’t suggesting he put Monroes on it - GAAAK!  Just 
tossing them out as a price point reference.

Bilstein or Sachs.  Nothing else.  And avoid the HD Bilsteins unless you want 
to feel every little pebble in the road.

-D


> On Apr 10, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> Ugh, Monroe's ride like you welded the rod to the cylinder, avoid them at 
>> all costs (and they are valved like American shocks, too).   Had a pair on 
>> the rear of my 280, replaced them with a set of Bilsteins from a '65 out of 
>> the junk yard.  Vastly better.
>> 
>> Hold out for the real ones, aftermarket will be worse than what is on there.
>> 
> AMEN!   ALL 'merkin shocks are to be avoided like the plague!Put 
> Bilsteins on it, or ride with no shocks, as that is what you will get with 
> monroe/'merkun shocks!
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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape

I put some KYB struts and shocks in SWMBO's Infiniti, and they ride almost
like rocks, WAY too stiff for me.  Not bad for short trips around town and
on smooth highway drives, but not at all suitable for a long day in the
car.  At the time it was hard to justify the $300 / strut cost from the
Stealership vs. about $80 from Rusty for the KYB, but now I know why...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Ugh, Monroe's ride like you welded the rod to the cylinder, avoid them at
>> all costs (and they are valved like American shocks, too).   Had a pair on
>> the rear of my 280, replaced them with a set of Bilsteins from a '65 out of
>> the junk yard.  Vastly better.
>>
>> Hold out for the real ones, aftermarket will be worse than what is on
>> there.
>>
>> AMEN!   ALL 'merkin shocks are to be avoided like the plague!Put
> Bilsteins on it, or ride with no shocks, as that is what you will get with
> monroe/'merkun shocks!
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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape




Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Ugh, Monroe's ride like you welded the rod to the cylinder, avoid them at all 
costs (and they are valved like American shocks, too).   Had a pair on the rear 
of my 280, replaced them with a set of Bilsteins from a '65 out of the junk 
yard.  Vastly better.

Hold out for the real ones, aftermarket will be worse than what is on there.

AMEN!   ALL 'merkin shocks are to be avoided like the plague!Put 
Bilsteins on it, or ride with no shocks, as that is what you will get 
with monroe/'merkun shocks!

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Re: [MBZ] Tire bubble


I hear that when Pirellis go flat they go WOPWOPWOP

I thought the tires on the girl's car were not that old, they had a lot 
of good tread.  There was a receipt in the package with the car, I 
thought they might have been fairly new but she says the only receipt 
was from 2006 and the tires looked like they were dry rotting, so maybe 
they were old and things were letting go. Costco had told her they could 
get her in 2 days later so she went to some local tar shop and got some 
Goodyears or something.  She's happy, they were a bit cheaper than the 
Costco Bridgestones on sale, so I guess all is good.


--FT


On 4/9/18 9:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
on the Burgundy SDL, I had all 4PIRELLI  tires slip belts badly on one 
70 mile trip to an MBCA meeting.   The thing shook like a dog trying 
to kill a rat.  at 25 MPH or less, it wobbled at a shriner's clown 
car.  over 25 it shook terribly.  It was a LONG SLOW trip home...

Thumbs down on Pirelli.

Generals are horrible on snow and ice, but did pretty well on dry 
pavement.  I ran a lot of them on the the high mile SDL when I got 
tired of going back to dead sams every month or two to get them to 
warrant their crappy name brand tires.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I HATE wobble from slipped belts.  I will say avoid Pirelli also.  I 
do not have any slipped belts but the traction in the rain is like 
driving on ice.



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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape

2018-04-10 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Ugh, Monroe's ride like you welded the rod to the cylinder, avoid them at all 
costs (and they are valved like American shocks, too).   Had a pair on the rear 
of my 280, replaced them with a set of Bilsteins from a '65 out of the junk 
yard.  Vastly better.

Hold out for the real ones, aftermarket will be worse than what is on there.



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Re: [MBZ] Like a Raped Ape

Nice!

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> The 450SL got new injectors this day.
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Re: [MBZ] Europa Mexico score!

The pnp near Norfolk carefully removes radios.

On Apr 10, 2018 1:31 AM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> >
> > Destruction of good parts seems to be SOP for denizens of PnP.  BFH to
> > valve covers, just because.  Slicing seats, smashing glass, cutting wires
> > for things they were never going to take.  Evil people.
>
>
> They probably have collected a few of the things they destroy, and are
> trying to make/preserve a market for them.
>
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