Subaru is 4mpg better,
> which breaks down to only $269 a year more for the pickup
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:30:39 -0500
> From: Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAI
h the Subaru is 4mpg better, which breaks
down to only $269 a year more for the pickup
-Curt
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:30:39 -0500
From: Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Here's a relevant passage from an article in the current New Yorker:
Every working day, we borrow more than three billion dollars from
foreigners, notably the central banks of China and other Asian
nations, in order to pay our import bills and keep our interest
rates low. Nouriel Roubini, a
thats a good point
lee wrote:
Another scenario is that skyrocketing fuel costs will eventually make it less
attractive to have things made in China and shipped over here, as the high
shipping costs will offset the cheapness of the labor.
Lee
On Thursday 02 February 2006 6:24, Jim Cathey wro
Another scenario is that skyrocketing fuel costs will eventually make it less
attractive to have things made in China and shipped over here, as the high
shipping costs will offset the cheapness of the labor.
Lee
On Thursday 02 February 2006 6:24, Jim Cathey wrote:
> > how does an economy that m
Jeff Zedic wrote:
> Tom Wrote:
>
> "Here is an interesting article on this subject:
>
> http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/payne200602020821.asp";
>
> The only interetsing thing I read in that article was the fact that
> their 19th century thinking could still be published in a 21st century
OK Don wrote:
>
> Sheesh -- there was a "gas war" bewteen two stations during my senior
> year. Dad came home and told me to go fill my tank (1951 VW). I only
> had $1.00 -- the tank wouldn't hold that much! The gas was $0.12/gal.
> I've never seen it that low since
1986, Okemos, Michigan.
Sheesh -- there was a "gas war" bewteen two stations during my senior
year. Dad came home and told me to go fill my tank (1951 VW). I only
had $1.00 -- the tank wouldn't hold that much! The gas was $0.12/gal.
I've never seen it that low since
On 2/2/06, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And
r 911?
Our gas prices didn't go down... Of course theres no production or refining
here either.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 10:34:46 -0600
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 05:51 PM, Levi Smith wrote:
Ahh, a quick look at http://maps.google.com and it looks like you're a
good
few hours or so NE of me. I'm closer to PA. My house is right next to
Corning, and I work in Hornell. Where I86 and I390 meet is about
midway
between l
Ahh, a quick look at http://maps.google.com and it looks like you're a good
few hours or so NE of me. I'm closer to PA. My house is right next to
Corning, and I work in Hornell. Where I86 and I390 meet is about midway
between locations.
Levi
On 2/2/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 04:30 PM, Levi Smith wrote:
It's a bit cold here in upstate NY this
time of year and sometimes adverse road conditions
Levi,
Where in NY are you? I live in Bolton Landing overlooking Lake George
from the west shore.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Yes, and they lost so his "garage" stays, apparently (according to AW)
Werner
Just saw in Autoweek that a guy in Michigan has a 6000 sq ft garage, that
should be big enough for anybody
Is that the guys whose neighbors sued him to try to make him take it down?
st because they
are so much closer to Winnipeg.
Randy B
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Randy,
What lake is
: Re: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
we are not far right now from EVERYTHING being made in china. They can sell
a car for what Robert Bosch wants for a part for a car. not sure how the
germans can compete with that
actually, not sure how the germans will be able to compete with anyone
anymore.
Tom Wrote:
"Here is an interesting article on this subject:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/payne200602020821.asp";
The only interetsing thing I read in that article was the fact that
their 19th century thinking could still be published in a 21st century
magazine.
What a sad way t
Randy,
What lake is 300 miles from Winnipeg? There are some rather nice ones (L.
Winnipeg and L. Manitoba, or Falcon Lake or Westhawk L., .g.), that are a
whole lot closer.
< wrote:
>
> The problem with that (or at least my problem) is that keeping umpteen
> vehicles is expensive. I need vehicles
t now.
> My wife only commutes about 8 miles a day, its just a little too far to
> walk and she has a side gig walking dogs at lunch which she needs the car
> for. An electric car would be ideal for her but we've got nowhere to plug
> one in near our apartment. If we had a house
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:24:43 -0800 (PST)
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recall the recent q
here to
plug one in near our apartment. If we had a house I'm thinking it'd be a
heckuva project.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:35:51 -0800
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o plug one in near
our apartment. If we had a house I'm thinking it'd be a heckuva project.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:35:51 -0800
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we are not far right now from EVERYTHING being made in china. They can sell
a car for what Robert Bosch wants for a part for a car. not sure how the
germans can compete with that
actually, not sure how the germans will be able to compete with anyone
anymore.
how does an economy that makes nothi
size house for me and the wife. We've been
living in 600sf for 6 years now and could use a bit more space but not so much
that we'd never get around to cleaning it.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:06:45 -0500
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Both? Maybe China will own the world and we will run China from the back
seat.
~
~
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~I think the race is on. Will China end up owning the rest of the world, or
~will Wally mart own China?
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~At 12:24 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
~>R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Put in your bid now.
I think the race is on. Will China end up owning the rest of the world, or
will Wally mart own China?
At 12:24 PM 2/2/2006, you wrote:
R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Put in your bid now. We might get sold
to China as they will soon have all
the money anyway.
Randy B in Canada
anybody
Werner
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Werner Fehlauer wrote:
Now a 100
t
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 5:54 PM
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Well, if those are the "best" means of reducing our dependence upon
foreign oil, then we should just annex Canada; our largest single
source of foreign oil...and, lately they&#
3 years before I was even born, grandpappy! :-)
Chris
LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: $0.249 my senior year of high school
(1969-70).
On 2/2/06, John Berryman wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:
>
> > I remember 99 cent/gallon gas in 1999 -
The problem with that (or at least my problem) is that keeping umpteen
vehicles is expensive. I need vehicles big enough to haul people and tow
things like boats and haul junk etc. I can't do all that with a Honda Civic
or Smart Car (MB content?). So, we currently have, in addition to my "toy"
300D
: Mercedes Discussion List
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On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:
> I remember 99 cent/gallon gas in 1999 - Cross Plains, Wisconsin.
>
I remember paying a nickel to fill my mini-bike tank. Gas was
26.9/gal.
John
$0.249 my senior year of high school (1969-70).
On 2/2/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:
>
> > I remember 99 cent/gallon gas in 1999 - Cross Plains, Wisconsin.
> >
>
> I remember paying a nickel to fill
: [MBZ] W's concern abt oil
Well, if those are the "best" means of reducing our dependence upon
foreign oil, then we should just annex Canada; our largest single
source of foreign oil...and, lately they've shown themselves to be
really unstable.
On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[
Potter, Tom E wrote:
IIRC there was/is a federal tax break for buying a vehicle that weighs
more than 6000 pounds.
Yes, but only for business use.
lee wrote:
On Thursday 02 February 2006 8:08, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
If somebody wants to spend the money on that big SUV, spend the money
burning up all that fuel driving it, well that is there business. Its
not the governments right or job to dictate what you can drive. Its
called free
Werner Fehlauer wrote:
> Now a 1000 sq ft house with a 2000 sq ft 6 bay garage and shop
That's more garage than I need. I've often though of building a 30x40
hip roof pole barn, with an apartment and a deck upstairs.
The one thing that hasn't been mentioned is the McMansions. Why does a
family of 3 need a 4000sqft house? Houses have been made way more
efficient over the years but now we blow it by having way more house. Not
only is it costing is in fuel to heat it but in building materials and the
trucking
>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:10 AM
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I agree in principle but the problem is that people are really really dumb.
I talk to people every day who are convinced that gas prices will be under
$2 sometime soon. To me thats just foolish. I'm mov
On Thursday, February 2, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Christopher McCann wrote:
I remember 99 cent/gallon gas in 1999 - Cross Plains, Wisconsin.
I remember paying a nickel to fill my mini-bike tank. Gas was 26.9/gal.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
-Curt
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 09:08:04 -0600
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If somebody wants to spend the money o
C. Striplin"
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If somebody wants to spend the money on that big SUV, spend the money
burning up all that fuel driving
and the trucking to move said
materials.
Restraint is clearly not in our vocabulary.
-Curt
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Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil?
Wilton
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On Thursday 02 February 2006 8:08, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> If somebody wants to spend the money on that big SUV, spend the money
> burning up all that fuel driving it, well that is there business. Its
> not the government
On Thursday 02 February 2006 8:08, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> If somebody wants to spend the money on that big SUV, spend the money
> burning up all that fuel driving it, well that is there business. Its
> not the governments right or job to dictate what you can drive. Its
> called free market ec
ebruary 01, 2006 7:41 PM
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wilton strickland wrote:
Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil?
I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution
to our dependence on foreign o
people are becoming lazy and sissified.
John W. Reames III wrote:
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, lee wrote:
What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a seven
thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall
and take your kiddies to soccer practic
If somebody wants to spend the money on that big SUV, spend the money
burning up all that fuel driving it, well that is there business. Its
not the governments right or job to dictate what you can drive. Its
called free market economy.
paul wrote:
irresponsibility?
oh god.
lee wrote:
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> Can't believe that I'm defending the clown, but I did read that he
> said in response to the GM and Ford woes that
ate source of energy. Just my 2 cents.
Tom Potter
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wilton strickland wrote:
>
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, lee wrote:
> What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a
> seven
> thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall
> and take your kiddies to soccer practice?
Every morning on my commute, i see something worse: socce
;
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Can't believe that I'm defending the clown, but I did read that he
said in response to the GM and Ford woes that the government
irresponsibility?
oh god.
lee wrote:
wilton strickland wrote:
Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil?
I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution
to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish
using up ou
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> And wearing sweaters! Part of the reason he lost the election in
> 1980---nobody wanted Mr. Rogers for president.
The Onion, in their "Our Dumb Century" book, had a great sendup of that
election. It was a newspaper front page with a picture of Carter,
captioned "Let's t
OK Don wrote:
> Can't believe that I'm defending the clown, but I did read that he
> said in response to the GM and Ford woes that the government will not
> bail them out, that they should "build something relevant". Couldn't
> believe my eyes.
I agree in principle, but I don't think it's a princi
I think it's "Buy as much as we can, as fast as we can."
On 2/1/06, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 'Point is we've never had and still don't have any national energy policy
> but, "Use as much as we can as fast as we can."
>
> Wilton
>
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, R
Can't believe that I'm defending the clown, but I did read that he
said in response to the GM and Ford woes that the government will not
bail them out, that they should "build something relevant". Couldn't
believe my eyes.
On 2/1/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> lee wrote:
> > What
On 2/1/06, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 'Point is we've never had and still don't have any national energy policy
> > but, "Use as much as we can as fast as we can."
> >
> > Wilton
>
> IIRC, Jimmy Carter had us turning our thermostats down to 68.
And wearing sweaters! Part of the re
'Point is we've never had and still don't have any national energy policy
but, "Use as much as we can as fast as we can."
Wilton
IIRC, Jimmy Carter had us turning our thermostats down to 68. His
administration may have been responsible for the implementation of CAFE
standards in 1978 also. I
'Point is we've never had and still don't have any national energy policy
but, "Use as much as we can as fast as we can."
Wilton
lee wrote:
What I want to know is, did he address the irresponsibility of driving a seven
thousand pound, ten mile to the gallon behemoth SUV simply to go to the mall
and take your kiddies to soccer practice?
No, of course not. His proposals were all supply-side -- mostly more
subsidies.
wilton strickland wrote:
> > Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil?
>
> I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution
> to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish
> using up our own oil. That'll really make us less
Well, if those are the "best" means of reducing our dependence upon
foreign oil, then we should just annex Canada; our largest single
source of foreign oil...and, lately they've shown themselves to be
really unstable.
On 2/1/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> no, he didnt mention b
no, he didnt mention biodiesel but did mention making ethanol out of
stocks, switchgrass and such. Should have mentioned drilling in ANWR,
off the coast of FL and CA, and exploiting oil shale deposits. Also
should have mentioned the need to build more refinaries and nuke plants.
Mitch Haley
wilton strickland wrote:
>
> Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil?
I missed the state of the union address, but last I knew, the solution
to our dependence on foreign oil was to drill some wells and finish
using up our own oil. That'll really make us less depende
Anybody hear W say anythng abt biodiesel to reduce dependence on oil?
Wilton
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