sched_* linker options?

2006-02-15 Thread Tobias Ulmer
I'm trying to compile a library wich uses some sched_* functions.
However I can't figure out against what library I need to link it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] pwd
/usr/lib
[EMAIL PROTECTED] grep sched_setscheduler *
[EMAIL PROTECTED] grep sched_setscheduler /usr/include/sched.h
int sched_setscheduler(pid_t, int, const struct sched_param *);

gcc -o bin/patest_buffer -g -O2 -Ipa_common pa_tests/patest_buffer.c 
lib/libportaudio.a -lm -lpthread -lossaudio
lib/libportaudio.a(pa_unix.o)(.text+0x463): In function `PaHost_WatchDogProc':
pa_unix_oss/pa_unix.c:424: undefined reference to `sched_get_priority_max'
lib/libportaudio.a(pa_unix.o)(.text+0x47c):pa_unix_oss/pa_unix.c:427: undefined 
reference to `sched_setscheduler'
[...]

Any help would be really kewl ;)

Tobias



Re: sched_* linker options?

2006-02-15 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:52:38AM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote:
 [...]
I guess i can answer the question myself. They don't exists (yet).
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=94623552626348w=2

Tobias



Re: Best Dual AMD Opteron Motherboard for OpenBSD Found??

2006-02-15 Thread Hiro Protagonist
Hi

I m running the TYAN S2885ANRF (Thunder K8W AMD 8000 Chipset) with
OpenBSD 3.7/3.8, and it works :)


Hello,

What does anyone think about this M/B or recommendations for others?


I have found one recommendation on BSDForums.org for this dual AMD Opteron
M/B:

tomek11-16-2004, 05:17 PM
I newer use this motherboard but it looks reasonably.
TYAN Thunder K8SR (S2881G2NR) AMD-8131 Chipset Server Motherboard For
Dual
AMD Opteron CPU 940-pin Socket Processor -RETAIL
(http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8sr.html)
It's for dual Opteron.


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Re: slow network performance

2006-02-15 Thread kami petersen

...


wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0e: DMA error writing fsbn 2651200 of 2651200-2651211 (wd0 bn 3819472; cn 
3789 tn 2 sn 34), retrying
wd0: soft error (corrected)
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 0
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 8192
c_skip: 0
wd0e: device timeout writing fsbn 2651200 of 2651200-2651215 (wd0 bn 3819472; 
cn 3789 tn 2 sn 34), retrying
wd0: soft error (corrected)
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0



did you look into this? anyway, test disk io and network separately.

/kami



viasio hw.sensors problem

2006-02-15 Thread Sable Keech
Hi,

i've got a problem with my hw.sensors output.

TEMP1 is not shown when calling sysctl hw.sensors.
If I combine the command with 'openssl speed'
it shows the temperature.

That's on a snap from 12/02.
The Machine is a Via EPIA M1.

Setting the flags for viasio as shown in the manpage
doesn't change the behavior.

Bad hardware? (new board, didn't run openbsd on it before,
so i dont know if it ever worked.)


/sable
---

# sysctl hw.sensors
hw.sensors.1=viasio0, UCH1, volts_dc, 3.31 V
hw.sensors.2=viasio0, UCH2, volts_dc, 2.42 V
hw.sensors.3=viasio0, UCH3, volts_dc, 2.37 V
hw.sensors.4=viasio0, UCH4, volts_dc, 4.61 V
hw.sensors.5=viasio0, UCH5, volts_dc, 12.20 V
hw.sensors.6=viasio0, +3.3V, volts_dc, 3.23 V

# openssl speed  sysctl hw.sensors
[... openssl output ...]
hw.sensors.0=viasio0, TEMP1, temp, 33.43 degC / 92.17 degF
hw.sensors.1=viasio0, UCH1, volts_dc, 3.31 V
hw.sensors.2=viasio0, UCH2, volts_dc, 2.38 V
hw.sensors.3=viasio0, UCH3, volts_dc, 2.37 V
hw.sensors.4=viasio0, UCH4, volts_dc, 4.58 V
hw.sensors.5=viasio0, UCH5, volts_dc, 12.14 V
hw.sensors.6=viasio0, +3.3V, volts_dc, 3.23 V

# cat /var/run/dmesg.boot
OpenBSD 3.9-beta (GENERIC) #601: Sun Feb 12 21:39:52 MST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: VIA Nehemiah (CentaurHauls 686-class) 1 GHz
cpu0: FPU,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MTRR,PGE,CMOV,MMX,FXSR,SSE
cpu0: RNG
real mem  = 234397696 (228904K)
avail mem = 206901248 (202052K)
using 2886 buffers containing 11821056 bytes (11544K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(68) BIOS, date 12/11/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb210
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdf44
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfded0/112 (5 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 5 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT8235 ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfa00 0xd/0x8000!
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8623 PCI rev 0x00
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8633 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 VIA CLE266 rev 0x03: aperture at 0xe000,
size 0x1000
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
VIA VT6306 FireWire rev 0x80 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 not configured
uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x80: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x80: irq 5
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x80: irq 10
usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2 at usb2
uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x82: irq 11
usb3 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub3 at usb3
uhub3: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 VIA VT8235 ISA rev 0x00
iic0 at viapm0
pciide0 at pci0 dev 17 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA133,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: TOSHIBA MK4032GAX
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38154MB, 78140160 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
auvia0 at pci0 dev 17 function 5 VIA VT8233 AC97 rev 0x50: irq 10
ac97: codec id 0x49434552 (ICEnsemble VIA VT1616i)
ac97: codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, KS Waves 3D
audio0 at auvia0
vr0 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 VIA RhineII-2 rev 0x74: irq 11, address
00:40:63:d4:12:12
ukphy0 at vr0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 8: OUI
0x004063, model 0x0032
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
viasio0 at isa0 port 0x2e/2: VT1211 rev 0x02: HM WDG: not activated
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
biomask ef65 netmask ef65 ttymask ffe7
pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled
dkcsum: wd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302

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slow network performance (part 2)

2006-02-15 Thread Joachim Mathes
Hi!

Thank you for the tips!

Sorry, for the long mail, but I wanna show you some server statistics.

To answer a few further questions:

1. sysctl -w net.inet.ip.mtudisc=0
   doesn't have any effect
2. no important messages in /var/log/messages during up-/download
3. Samba downloads show similar behaviour
4. And I ran some further tests with ifstat, iostat and netperf
   (see below)

My assumptions:
I think there are some problems with my hdd, especially when dmesg says:

-
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0e: DMA error writing fsbn 2651200 of 2651200-2651211 (wd0 bn 3819472; cn 
3789 tn 2 sn 34), retrying
wd0: soft error (corrected)
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 0
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 8192
c_skip: 0
wd0e: device timeout writing fsbn 2651200 of 2651200-2651215 (wd0 bn 3819472; 
cn 3789 tn 2 sn 34), retrying
wd0: soft error (corrected)
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 512
c_skip: 0
wd0(pciide0:0:0): timeout
type: ata
c_bcount: 6144
c_skip: 0
wd0e: device timeout writing fsbn 2653908 of 2653908-2653919 (wd0 bn 3822180; 
cn 3791 tn 13 sn 33), retrying
wd0: soft error (corrected)


After running a self test with smartctl the results do not look very good:

Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   40%  2076 
169914


And if you have a look at the iostat results you can see repeating patterns
like these:

wd0wd0 cpu
  KB/t t/s MB/sKB xfr time  us ni sy in id
 64.00   1 0.0664   1 3.50   1  0  0  0 99
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00   1  0  0  0 99
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00   0  0  0  0100
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00   0  0  0  1 99


Does that mean that the hdd is busy during the 'zero-lines' while there is no
more data transfer through the IO controller? The 3.5 seconds cannot be a
real meassured value, because they were recorded during a span of 1
second. So the transfer actually has to extend to the next 3 seconds. But there
it is no longer displayed in the statistics. (I hope you know what I want to
say.)

So I think the problem is my hdd.

What do you think?

Jo
netserver on OpenBSD box
netperf on Linux box

 netperf -H OpenBSD -l 20
Recv   SendSend  
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed  
Size   SizeSize Time Throughput  
bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec  

 16384  16384  1638420.02   7.74   

netserver on Linux box
netperf on OpenBSD box

 netperf -H Linux -l 20
Recv   SendSend  
Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed  
Size   SizeSize Time Throughput  
bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec  

 87380  16384  1638420.02   7.89   



12 MB upload via scp (Linux host - OpenBSD server)
with scp running on Linux box and sshd running on OpenBSD

 iostat -w 1 -D -d -C wd0
wd0wd0 cpu
  KB/t t/s MB/sKB xfr time  us ni sy in id
 15.10   0 0.00 2   0 0.99   0  0  0  0100
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00   0  0  0  0100
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00  16  0  5  0 79
 16.00   5 0.0879   5 5.95   0  0  0  0100
 16.00   1 0.0216   1 0.99   0  0  0  0100
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00   5  0  4  0 91
 15.33   3 0.0446   3 2.59   0  0  0  0100
 24.00  12 0.28   286  12 1.09   5  0  2  2 91
 37.33   9 0.33   333   9 1.00   8  0  3  6 83
 64.00  14 0.86   882  14 0.97  18  0  8  5 68
 64.00  13 0.81   826  13 0.97  17  0  3  9 71
 64.00  15 0.93   953  15 1.04  12  0  5  8 75
 53.89  19 0.99  1016  19 1.01  22  0  8  4 67
 64.00  14 0.86   882  14 0.95  21  0  5  8 66
 64.00  15 0.93   953  15 1.02  22  0  6  9 63
 64.00  15 0.93   953  15 0.98  30  0  9  6 55
 56.00  18 0.97   992  18 1.00  13  0 10  9 68
 64.00  13 0.81   826  13 1.00  19  0  5  5 71
 64.00  14 0.87   889  14 0.95  12  0  5  4 79
 64.00  15 0.93   953  15 1.07  26  0  8  2 64
wd0wd0 cpu
  KB/t t/s MB/sKB xfr time  us ni sy in id
 64.00  15 0.92   945  15 0.98  15  0  5  5 75
 64.00   3 0.19   191   3 0.20   6  0  2  2 90
  0.00   0 0.00 0   0 0.00   0  0  0  0100


12 MB download via scp (OpenBSD server - Linux host)
with scp running on Linux box and sshd running on OpenBSD

 iostat -w 1 -D -d -C wd0

wd0wd0 cpu
  KB/t t/s MB/sKB 

Time filtering with PF

2006-02-15 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Just to check out:

I do had some rules using the time patch in the iptables, and they
worked well. Now that i migrated to openbsd, i want to do the same.  I
will have to use cron and anchors, as someone suggested once ago, or
someone already implemented or made a patch for doing this inside the pf
itself?

Thanks in advance,
--
Giancarlo Razzolini
Linux User 172199
Moleque Sem Conteudo Numero #002
Slackware Current
Snike Tecnologia em Informatica
4386 2A6F FFD4 4D5F 5842  6EA0 7ABE BBAB 9C0E 6B85

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Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Andreas Bihlmaier
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 05:11:42PM +, Dennis Davis wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Andreas Bihlmaier wrote:
 
snip
 
 There was some discussion about this on the list some time ago.
 Apparently the Linux version works OK in compatability mode.  I
 installed this version on my i386 OpenBSD machine.  I haven't used
 it -- other than to verify soffice fires up -- so I can't say how
 well it works.
 
 I followed the instructions from a web page that seems to have
 vanished.  So here's the steps I took.
 
 You'll obviously need the Redhat libraries
 (/usr/ports/emulators/redhat) installed.  And have:
 
 kern.emul.linux=1
 
 set in /etc/sysctl.conf.
 
 Touched /emul/linux/etc/mnttab to create it as an empty file.

/emul/linux/etc/mtab

 
 Added:
 
 #
 # For OpenOffice in Linux compatability mode.
 /proc /proc procfs rw,linux 0 0
 
 to /etc/fstab.
 
 Created and mounted /proc.
 
 Created the directory OOo_2.0.0, untarred
 OOo_2.0.0_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz in this directory to create all
 the RPMs.
 
 Created /opt as a soft link to /usr/local.

ln -s /usr/local /emul/linux/opt 

 
 Installed the software by typing:
 
 /emul/linux/bin/rpm --nodeps --ignoreos --ignorearch -ivh *.rpm
 
 Programs are installed in /opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/s*. For
 instance the text editor is /opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/swriter
 and the main app is /opt/openoffice.org2.0/program/soffice.
 
 The web page then said:
 
   If programs don't start and if you have a Java virtual machine,
   temporarily disable it (chmod 0 /usr/local/jdk*), then start
   OpenOffice. You can then re-enable Java (chmod 755 /usr/local/jdk*)
   and keep it that way.
 
 but I'm not running with a Java virtual machine so it's
 not a problem I've experienced.
 -- 
 Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Phone: +44 1225 386101

I don't want to be picky corrections are just for the archives.
Besides that:
THANK YOU!

Couldn't there be a short entry in the FAQ about
How to get OpenOffice to run on OpenBSD i386
because I think that there is quite a bunch of people that want to run
OO on OpenBSD.

Sadly this is not going to work for amd64, but otherwise it seems to
work quite well under linux emulation.

Regards,
ahb



Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Antonios Anastasiadis
I remember there was a (big) effort to patch the oo sources so as to
work natively in openbsd.
I guess the port has stalled a bit since then.But I may be wrong as well.
If anyone knows about it it would be kind of him to enlighten us also.



Re: Time filtering with PF

2006-02-15 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Giancarlo Razzolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I will have to use cron and anchors, as someone suggested once ago,
 or someone already implemented or made a patch for doing this inside
 the pf itself?

I'm not terribly close to the development process myself, but I would 
think that since it's fairly easy to do what you want with cron and
anchors, adding code for this specific feature to PF itself would not be
a developer priority.

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Re: Time filtering with PF

2006-02-15 Thread knitti
On 2/15/06, Giancarlo Razzolini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just to check out:

 I do had some rules using the time patch in the iptables, and they
 worked well. Now that i migrated to openbsd, i want to do the same.  I
 will have to use cron and anchors, as someone suggested once ago, or
 someone already implemented or made a patch for doing this inside the pf
 itself?

doing what? you don't assume everyone on a _openbsd_ mailing list
knows what the time patch in the iptables is, do you?


--knitti



Re: slow network performance (part 2)

2006-02-15 Thread knitti
On 2/15/06, Joachim Mathes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So I think the problem is my hdd.

 What do you think?
I think the same, get a new disk in there. Until then you can run a
dd if=/rwd0c of=/dev/null bs=1m to read every sector of the hdd and
maybe allocate some of the spare sectors to some of the failing ones.
of course, do a backup asap, before you do anything other.


--knitti



Re: vpn1401 not probing

2006-02-15 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:55:25AM -0600, Travis H. wrote:
 
 The soekris site says the vpn1401 is fully supported in the latest
 release of OpenBSD.
 
 However, mine isn't autoprobing.  What do I need to do to get it working?

  shrug

  i've had a 1401 working since, umm, maybe it's since 3.6 or so?  had
  it a while...  works in an old P55/200 and in a new dual athlon.
  i just put it in and boot, it finds it, it works.

  also have soekris 4501 and 4801 and the vpn 1411 works for me
  automatically inside of those without special configuration
  to find it.

-- 

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[ openbsd 3.9-beta GENERIC ( jan 30 ) // i386 ]



Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Stefan Wollny
Antonios Anastasiadis [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 15.02.06 13:56:21:
 
 I remember there was a (big) effort to patch the oo sources so as to
 work natively in openbsd.
 I guess the port has stalled a bit since then.But I may be wrong as well.
 If anyone knows about it it would be kind of him to enlighten us also.
 

Hi,

there was a thread last year here on misc@ on how to get the Linux version of 
OOo running on OpenBSD. Using the hints in this thread I succeded in getting to 
OOo to run on my laptop. Have a look at
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=112984281031654w=2)

I posted this on www.bsdforums.org where you find additional infos:
http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34613

In particular you might be interested in the following link pointing to a port 
and a package of OOo 2.0.1:
http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~guebbbi/

Cheers,
SteWo

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Re: Time filtering with PF

2006-02-15 Thread Alec Berryman
Giancarlo Razzolini on 2006-02-15 10:09:50 -0200:

 I do had some rules using the time patch in the iptables, and they
 worked well. Now that i migrated to openbsd, i want to do the same.  I
 will have to use cron and anchors, as someone suggested once ago, or
 someone already implemented or made a patch for doing this inside the
 pf itself?

I'm not quite sure what 'the time patch in the iptables' is, but it
sounds like you might want to check out expiretable.



Re: New dell server

2006-02-15 Thread Brandon Mercer

Gaby vanhegan wrote:

On 14 Feb 2006, at 20:18, Brandon Mercer wrote:

  
Has anybody managed to get the CERC SATA raid controller running  
on  3.8 or 3.9-stable?  Alternatively, where's the cheapest source  
of LSI  SATA cards?  Can I boot from a system installed on an LSI  
card?
  
LSI cards, as has been talked to death in the archives, are GREAT  
cards, of course the work and boot properly.  :-)  Also, newegg  
usually has them at a good price. Brandon



Unfortunately:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item=N82E16816118007

Looks like we'll be spending a bit more cash on this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingReview.asp?item=N82E16816118015
  

The LSI Megaraid SATA is the way to go anyway. :-)

I'm intrigued by the comment:

  
Although it will function in a PCI slot,the throughput is marginal  
even with 4 x 36 gig raptors in RAID 0. I was expecting at least  
150 mbps transfer rates and Im only geting 80. Technical support  
was knowlegable and I didn't have to wait more than 5 minutes to  
talk to someone. The informed me that this card performs best in a  
64 bit/100 mhz slot such as a server board. IMHO its price is not  
justified vs the performance in a 32 bit system



  
Gaby they wouldn't really make it 64bit if it didn't need to be 64 
bit. Think about the PCI bus...
The application we have for the server does not require heavy data- 
throughput, so this bottleneck wouldn't be too much of a problem, 
If you were worried about this type of bottleneck you'd need to use 
scsi's anyway ;-)
but  
if I can spend a few more quid on a different mobo to get double the  
speed, I'd like to.  What am I looking for here, motherboards that  
will take a 64 bit CPU and have 100Mhz PCI slots?  That's a PCI-X  
card, no?

Tis a 64 bit pci card as shown in the pictures and description.
Brandon



authentication without adding user to /etc/master.passwd

2006-02-15 Thread Fred.
Is there a way in OpenBSD to authenticate users without adding them to 
/etc/master.passwd file?

I have an OpenBSD server with authpf enabled and login_ldap configured. I have 
also a seperate 
LDAP server. I can authenticate any user in OpenBSD by using this seperate LDAP 
server if and only
if username is added to /etc/master.passwd file in OpenBSD machine.  

Even if it is working, adding/managing over 5000 users to master.passwd file is 
not suitable. I
have already a server (LDAP) for user management.   

Why openbsd does not support first look up ldap server for both username and 
password, then use
local password file ?


Ferdi

Middle East Technical University
Computer Center
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Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Antonios Anastasiadis
I know it runs via emulation, I was talking about a native port.
I found where it was mentioned:

http://cvs.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-pvalchev/



Re: authentication without adding user to /etc/master.passwd

2006-02-15 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
Selon Fred. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Why openbsd does not support first look up ldap server for both username and
 password, then use
 local password file ?


As far as I know, OpenBSD only support flat /etc/master.passwd file or NIS for
what you want to do. You _can_ authenticate passwords using Ldap, Kerberos,...
but if you need to get user info (uid, gid, shell, gecos...) then I don't know
any other way.
nsswitch support would do what you want but it is not supported and I doubt it
will ever make it into OpenBSD.

I hope to be proved wrong though...

-- 
Antoine



Re: authentication without adding user to /etc/master.passwd

2006-02-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/02/15 05:58, Fred. wrote:
 Even if it is working, adding/managing over 5000 users to master.passwd file
 is not suitable. I have already a server (LDAP) for user management.   

It might not be as bad as you think. You can build your passwd files
from a 'header' section and something pulled by ldapsearch or a script
that accesses ldap itself to generate the rest.

The flat file isn't used for handling authentication, spwd.db and pwd.db
are used instead.

 Why openbsd does not support first look up ldap server for both
 username and password, then use local password file ?

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you need
nsswitch and/or PAM for that type of thing, neither of which are in
OpenBSD.



-stable or -current kernel error

2006-02-15 Thread Paul Barbeau
I am trying to move from the base install from the CD/FTP to either
stable or current.  I get the same error regardless of what version I
try with and regardless of what machine (different components inside).
Below is the steps I am doing to rebuild the kernel and the error I am
getting.  Anyone have and ideas on how to correct this problem? Am I
doing it wrong and forgetting something?

cd /usr; cvs -q checkout -rOPENBSD_3_8 -P src 
cd /usr/src
find . -type l -name obj |xargs rm
make cleandir
rm -rf /usr/obj/*
make obj
cd /usr/src/etc  make DESTDIR=/ distrib-dirs
cd /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf
config GENERIC
cd ../compile/GENERIC
make clean 
make depend
make

ERROR MESSAGE

mkdir -p /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC/lib/kern
making sure the kern library is up to date...
make: don't know how to make /usr/src/sys/sys/_types.h. Stop in
/usr/src/sys/lib/libkern.
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC (line 28 of
/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC/../../../../lib/libkern/Makefile.
inc).

Paul



Re: Best Dual AMD Opteron Motherboard for OpenBSD Found??

2006-02-15 Thread Jon Simola
On 2/14/06, Levi Patrick II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What does anyone think about this M/B or recommendations for others?

 TYAN Thunder K8SR (S2881G2NR) AMD-8131 Chipset Server Motherboard For Dual
 AMD Opteron CPU 940-pin Socket Processor -RETAIL

I've got two of those boards and they work great.

My favourite feature is Press F12 to boot from network during the
BIOS init, really saved me a lot of time over repeated netboot
installs.

OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC.MP) #0: Tue Oct 11 11:01:29 PDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 2147086336 (2096764K)
avail mem = 1836417024 (1793376K)
using 22937 buffers containing 214917120 bytes (209880K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4) (TYAN S2881   )
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246, 1994.56 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,NXE,MMXX,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu0: apic clock running at 199426725Hz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 246, 1994.27 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,NXE,MMXX,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW
cpu1: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 1MB
64b/line 16-way L2 cache
cpu1: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
cpu1: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative
mpbios: bus 0 is type PCI
mpbios: bus 1 is type PCI
mpbios: bus 2 is type PCI
mpbios: bus 3 is type PCI
mpbios: bus 4 is type PCI
mpbios: bus 5 is type ISA
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 2: pa 0x83744f24, version 11, 24 pins
ioapic1 at mainbus0 apid 3: pa 0x83744e24, version 11, 4 pins
ioapic2 at mainbus0 apid 4: pa 0x83744d24, version 11, 4 pins
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
ppb0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 AMD 8111 PCI-PCI rev 0x07
pci1 at ppb0 bus 4
ohci0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 AMD 8111 USB rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19
(irq 9), version 1.0, legacy support
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: AMD OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
ohci1 at pci1 dev 0 function 1 AMD 8111 USB rev 0x0b: apic 2 int 19
(irq 9), version 1.0, legacy support
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: AMD OHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered
pciide0 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 CMD Technology SiI3114 SATA rev 0x02: DMA
pciide0: using apic 2 int 17 (irq 10) for native-PCI interrupt
vga1 at pci1 dev 6 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
AMD AMD8111 LPC rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 not configured
pciide1 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 AMD 8111 IDE rev 0x03: DMA, channel
0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatib
ility
pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
pciide1: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
AMD 8111 SMBus rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 not configured
AMD 8111 ACPI rev 0x05 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 not configured
ppb1 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 AMD 8131 PCIX rev 0x12
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
bge0 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 Broadcom BCM5704C rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3
(0x2003): apic 3 int 0 (irq 5) address 00:e0:81:2e:d3:50
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
bge1 at pci2 dev 9 function 1 Broadcom BCM5704C rev 0x03, BCM5704 A3
(0x2003): apic 3 int 1 (irq 10) address 00:e0:81:2e:d3:51
brgphy1 at bge1 phy 1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
aapic0 at pci0 dev 10 function 1 AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC rev 0x01
ppb2 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 AMD 8131 PCIX rev 0x12
pci3 at ppb2 bus 1
ppb3 at pci3 dev 3 function 0 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x0335 rev 0x07
pci4 at ppb3 bus 2
ami0 at pci4 dev 14 function 0 Symbios Logic MegaRAID SATA 8x rev
0x07: apic 4 int 0 (irq 5) LSI 3008/32b
ami0: FW 813G, BIOS vH425, 128MB RAM
ami0: 1 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives
scsibus0 at ami0: 40 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: AMI, Host drive #00,  SCSI2 0/direct fixed
sd0: 858306MB, 109418 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 1757810688 sec total
scsibus1 at ami0: 16 targets
aapic1 at pci0 dev 11 function 1 AMD 8131 PCIX IOAPIC rev 0x01
pchb0 at pci0 dev 24 function 0 AMD AMD64 HyperTransport rev 0x00
pchb1 at pci0 dev 24 function 1 AMD AMD64 Address Map rev 0x00
pchb2 at pci0 dev 24 function 2 AMD AMD64 DRAM Cfg rev 0x00
pchb3 at pci0 dev 24 function 3 AMD AMD64 Misc Cfg rev 0x00
pchb4 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 AMD AMD64 HyperTransport rev 0x00
pchb5 at pci0 dev 25 function 1 AMD AMD64 Address Map rev 0x00
pchb6 at pci0 

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Ramiro Aceves
On 2/15/06, Antonios Anastasiadis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I know it runs via emulation, I was talking about a native port.
 I found where it was mentioned:

 http://cvs.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-pvalchev/



Interesting the malloc thing! Thank you very much for the information-

Ramiro.



Re: authentication without adding user to /etc/master.passwd

2006-02-15 Thread Adam
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:34:08 + Stuart Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2006/02/15 05:58, Fred. wrote:
  Even if it is working, adding/managing over 5000 users to
  master.passwd file is not suitable. I have already a server (LDAP)
  for user management.   
 
 It might not be as bad as you think. You can build your passwd files
 from a 'header' section and something pulled by ldapsearch or a script
 that accesses ldap itself to generate the rest.
 
 The flat file isn't used for handling authentication, spwd.db and
 pwd.db are used instead.
 
  Why openbsd does not support first look up ldap server for both
  username and password, then use local password file ?
 
 I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you need
 nsswitch and/or PAM for that type of thing, neither of which are in
 OpenBSD.

You would need nsswitch support, nothing PAM related is needed.  Someone
posted a patch to tech@ quite a while ago to add nsswitch support.

Adam



Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Ramiro Aceves
On 2/14/06, dreamwvr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:13:47PM +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote:
   There was some discussion about this on the list some time ago.
   Apparently the Linux version works OK in compatability mode.  I
   installed this version on my i386 OpenBSD machine.  I haven't used
   it -- other than to verify soffice fires up -- so I can't say how
   well it works.
 
  Yes, that was the paper I followed and It works fine. However,  I have
  not tested it in depth.
 
  I do not want to start a flame war here, but I would like to know why
  there is not a native OpenOffice port  for OpenBSD. I mean, the
  technicall resons, I am not a programmer and I would like to know it.

 because you haven't ported it yet.. You see someone has to do it. :)


Thanks, I am not able to do it, my programming skills are limited,
that is why I am asking for the reason of not having a native
OpenOffice port.

Thank you.
Ramiro.



cardbus cant map interrupt - asus pundit barebone

2006-02-15 Thread brtw2003
hi fellows,

having issues to get the cardbus working.

Hardware: Asus Pundit AB-P2600
Cardbus Chipset: ENE CB-710Q Chip

OpenBSD 3.8 GENERIC#76 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz

relevant dmesg part:

cbb0 at pci2 dev 12 function 0 vendor ENE, unknown product 0x1411 rev
0x02pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin A
: couldn't map interrupt
vendor ENE, unknown product 0x0510 (class memory subclass flash, rev
0x00) at pci2 dev 12 funct



thx for any advise
/geri



Re: Feb 13 X snapshot

2006-02-15 Thread David Terrell
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 10:32:59PM -0600, Emilio Perea wrote:
 Installing the latest (Feb 13) i386 x*tgz on two different computers
 caused the keyboard to lock up.  Mouse continued to work, but I was not
 able to type anything or switch consoles.  The systems involved were a
 Dell Precision 330 workstation (upgrade) and a Toshiba 3480CT laptop
 (new install to see if the problem could be duplicated).  Both are
 several years old and had run X without problems until today.
 
 Going back to the Feb 4 snapshot restored full functionality.
 
 It seems extremely unlikely that this could be a real bug, since nobody
 else has mentioned it, so I suspect operator error.  Did I miss a
 required change in configuration between these two versions?

I just clean installed the latest snap (Feb 12) and I couldn't get
xdm/X to run without changing /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers to use vt07
-- it would report a keyboard error (something about tcgetattr,
can't find it at the moment).

I'm also having problems with my keyboard (using the default
keymap, arrow keys aren't detected properly on a 101 key keyboard),
and when I clicked on the Mouse section of the KDE control panel
my mouse has stopped working completely (despite restarting X
multiple times).  Didn't change anything, it broke as soon as
the mouse applet came up.  I haven't tried rebooting to solve
that last one, I imagine that'll do it.

dmesg follows:

OpenBSD 3.9-beta (GENERIC) #601: Sun Feb 12 21:39:52 MST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (AuthenticAMD 586-class) 501 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,PGE,MMX
real mem  = 804823040 (785960K)
avail mem = 726986752 (709948K)
using 4278 buffers containing 40345600 bytes (39400K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(1a) BIOS, date 04/12/00, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb380
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb808
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdde0/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 3 7 10 11 12
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C598 PCI rev 0x04
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x23
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x10: ATA66, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST360021A
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 57241MB, 117231408 sectors
wd1 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1: IBM-DTTA-350840
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 8063MB, 16514064 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
wd1(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 1
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PLEXTOR, CD-R PX-W1210A, 1.09 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:1): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x11: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
VIA VT82C596 Power rev 0x30 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 not configured
ppb1 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 DEC 21052 PCI-PCI rev 0x02
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
de0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 DEC 21140 rev 0x12: irq 10
de0: ZNYX ZX34X  pass 1.2 address 00:c0:95:e0:49:3c
de1 at pci2 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21140 rev 0x12: irq 12
de1: ZNYX ZX34X  pass 1.2 address 00:c0:95:e0:49:3d
de2 at pci2 dev 6 function 0 DEC 21140 rev 0x12: irq 7
de2: ZNYX ZX34X  pass 1.2 address 00:c0:95:e0:49:3e
de3 at pci2 dev 7 function 0 DEC 21140 rev 0x12: irq 3
de3: ZNYX ZX34X  pass 1.2 address 00:c0:95:e0:49:3f
vga1 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 NVidia Riva TNT rev 0x04
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
ahc0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 Adaptec AHA-29160 U160 rev 0x02: irq 7
scsibus1 at ahc0: 16 targets
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
isapnp0 at isa0 port 0x279: read port 0x203
isapnp0: No current device for tag, card 1
sb1 at isapnp0 Creative SB AWE64  PnP, CTL0045, , Audio port 
0x220/16,0x330/2,0x388/4 irq 5 drq 1,5: dsp v4.16
midi1 at sb1: SB MPU-401 UART
audio0 at sb1
opl0 at sb1: model OPL3
midi2 at opl0: SB Yamaha OPL3
joy0 at isapnp0 Creative SB AWE64  PnP, CTL7002, PNPB02F, Game port 0x200/8
Creative SB AWE64  PnP, CTL0022, , WaveTable at isapnp0 port 0x620/4 

ping: sendto: No buffer space available

2006-02-15 Thread Oliver J. Morais
i386, OpenBSD 3.9-beta (GENERIC) #597: Sun Feb  5 21:14:35 MST 2006

Just played around pinging to see the following:

Pinging from box A (10.0.0.13) to box B (10.0.0.5) with
sudo ping -f -s 1024 10.0.0.5
Everything fine. Fire up another xterm, fire up the same ping a
second time - wow.

[...]
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
.ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
.ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
.ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
.ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
.ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
..ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 10.0.0.5 1032 chars, ret=-1
[...]

And so on... As soon as I kill one floodping, the other runs fine
again. Box A has a fxp0, box B a re0, connected via a cheap Gigabit Switch.
(Just drop a line if you need the full dmesg.)

Not that I'm too concerned since this isn't a real world problem to
me, but hey, who knows ;-)

kind regards,
oliver



Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   I do not want to start a flame war here, but I would like 
 to know why
   there is not a native OpenOffice port  for OpenBSD. I mean, the
   technicall resons, I am not a programmer and I would like 
 to know it.
 
  because you haven't ported it yet.. You see someone has to do it. :)
 
 
 Thanks, I am not able to do it, my programming skills are limited,
 that is why I am asking for the reason of not having a native
 OpenOffice port.

Ask the OpenOffice.org project why they have not created a native OpenBSD
port. It's their application.

If you don't like that answer, then the reason is what dreamwvr stated;
*you* have not yet ported it. There are no technical reasons other than the
application was not written to be portable.

Since you don't have the skill to do it yourself, you also do not have the
right to complain about it.

Alternatively, you do have the right to pay someone who does have the skills
to port it for you.

This is the way application compatibility works. Someone has to make it
happen. Do you expect someone else to take the time out of their day to make
it happen? What are you going to give them for their time?

DS



Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Sigfred HÃ¥versen

Ramiro Aceves wrote:
[snip]

I do not want to start a flame war here, but I would like to know why
there is not a native OpenOffice port  for OpenBSD. I mean, the
technicall resons, I am not a programmer and I would like to know it.
Just curious.



Much effort has gone into porting OpenOffice, but issues remains:

http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-pvalchev/mgp5.html

/Sigfred



Re: Feb 13 X snapshot

2006-02-15 Thread frantisek holop
same here, keyboard stopped working as it should.

i had sent the xorg log and the dmesg, but the
mail got bigger then 40k, at now it needs
moderator approval.

as the regular xorg log is always bigger than 40k,
could this limit be raised please to at least 50k?

-f
-- 
i tried switching to gum but i couldn't keep it lit!



Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-15 Thread Craig McCormick

Bruno.

I'd been experiencing terrible problems with FreeBSD and Gnome and so I
chose to install OpenBSD 3.8 and fluxbox

So far, so good and it's all operating very smoothly and reliably. So
far, the only application that I haven't brought on board is Evolution
which I really need, but I am making do with Thunderbird for now.

To be honest, it's been much more straight forward to set this up, than
it ever has been with the so-called more user friendly FreeBSD. It will
depend on whether there is support for your applications of choice, in
OpenBSD, but from what I see so far, there isn't any reason not to run
OpenBSD as a desktop/workstation environment. If fact, it's inspired me
to put together a 'how-to' of sorts, for OpenBSD newbies.

Best regards,

Craig
 Hi all,

 I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on
 OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ?
 What's your feedback ?

 Best regards,

 Bruno.



Re: slow network performance

2006-02-15 Thread Sigfred HÃ¥versen
I recently tried to use netperf, but it seemed more to test my CPU than 
the network and thus reporting low througput. benchmarks/netstrain is
much less demanding on the CPU. Of course, one may use ftp to download 
large files since the OpenBSD one reports speed as well.


/Sigfred

Sebastian Schmitzdorff wrote:

Hi,

if I understand you correctly your testing consists of up and downloads
on your openbsd router. This is not the proper way to test network
performance on a router. I recommend using tools that dont involve any
i/o operations such as netperf etc.

According to your dmesg I wouldn't be surprised if you're issues are
harddrive related.

greets, sebastian


Am Dienstag, den 14.02.2006, 11:16 +0100 schrieb Joachim Mathes:

Hi OpenBSD community!

I built a small ethernet network with Windows and Linux boxes and an 
OpenBSD router which is connected to the www via dsl.


The problem is that the upload speed from an intranet box to the BSD
server (over scp for example) is quite ok (about 13 MBit/s) but the
download speed is rather slow (about 1 MBit/s). Why?

I used ethereal to get a tcp dump and plottet the results (x-axis -
time, y-axis - number of bytes). For about a second I get full download
speed but then there is a period of 15 seconds where the connection
seems to be stalled. After 15 seconds the connection works for 1 second
at full speed and so on. As a result the diagram looks like a stair.

Now I'm going to tell you what I have tried to solve the
problem...without any success.

- samba shows the same behaviour
- disconnected the switch (100Mbit) and made a direct connection to the
  server 
- changed RJ45 cable

- switched network cards from Realtek 8139 (100Mbit) to Realtek 8029 (10Mbit;
  works fine for pppoe) (I know they are of poor quality!) 
- changed media type manually from 100baseTX full duplex to 100baseTX to

  10baseT full duplex to 10baseT
- killed pf; killed ppp
- processor load is ok during download
- same behaviour if server is accessed from a windows or a linux box
  (both of them have 100Mbit NICs)

I have found some old threads (OpenBSD 2.x) concerning the same problem
but not any solution up to now. So if you have any further idea, please
tell me.

Thanks in advance!

Jo

dmesg:
---
OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #50: Sun Mar 20 00:01:57 MST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium II (GenuineIntel 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 401 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR
real mem  = 267952128 (261672K)
avail mem = 237731840 (232160K)
using 3296 buffers containing 13500416 bytes (13184K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(26) BIOS, date 01/11/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb130
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xb5ac
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdbf0/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 10 11
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT82C691 PCI rev 0x06
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT82C598 AGP rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Nvidia GeForce2 MX rev 0xb2
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 VIA VT82C596A ISA rev 0x07
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA33, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: Maxtor 54098H8
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 39082MB, 80041248 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: LG, CD-ROM CRD-8400B, 1.00 SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
VIA VT82C596 Power Mgmt rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 not configured
ne3 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Realtek 8029 rev 0x00: irq 10
ne3: address 00:00:1c:0b:4c:54
rl0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 11 address 
00:30:84:41:d6:e1
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal phy
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
isapnp0 at isa0 port 0x279: read port 

3.8 bridge trouble

2006-02-15 Thread Pailloncy Jean-Gerard

Hi,

I want to use 2 soekris as redundant bridge filter, but I have many  
troubles.


I installed on soekris with 128 Mo SANDISK and a stock version of 3.8.
I modify the setup to have a readonly root, 2 mfs partitions (dev,  
var), syslog to buffer and to remote loghost. Everything runs nice.


Every servers I have have at least 2 nics.
I connect each server to 2 switchs, and the switchs together.
And for the moment only one switch has an uplink to my provider.
I will have (soon) a second link to the second switch.

I want to test the soekris as a bridge with 3 links: one to my  
provider, one to each switch.


I start the test by setting a bridge on 2 nics of the soekris  
connected to the 2 switchs. So now there is a loop between the  
switchs and the soekris.


And the first problem appears. If I ping from any computers on the  
segment to anything else I get a storm of thousand packet/seconds  
until I unplug a cable from the loop.

So I test with/without STP, link0: no more luke.

Second part of the test, I set up a bridgename.bridge0 file with the  
2 nics up with STP, and I restart the soekris. Few seconds after the  
end of the boot (login prompt) immediate reboot of the soekris.
I stop it by, as soon as login prompt appears, to log in and put down  
the bridge.


In fact, each time all the cables is connected to have a loop, in the  
15 seconds I put up the bridge the box reboots (may be the same delay  
as to start forwarding packet). But if I put up the bridge with only  
one cable and put the second ones after not much problems.

In fact sometimes when there is a big storm the soekris reboots too.


I add asked Henning at EuroBSDCon'2005 about this, and he says to me  
that if I could avoid this setup (bridge) and use a router: this is  
the way to go.


OK. But My provider gives me a block of 256 IPs with two gateways and  
before asking him for something else I would like to know what I can do.


May be the new coming version 3.9 have some new stuff. I do not know.
Any help to have a running setup is welcomed, and to debug the  
unexpected reboot.


Cordialement,
Jean-Girard Pailloncy



Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-15 Thread Diana Eichert
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
SNIP
 Something like: Even a thread started by Dave might eventually--if
 the topic has sufficiently departed from the original subject--lead to
 a (small) improvement to OpenBSD?

   -Otto

Exactly!



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Re: Time filtering with PF

2006-02-15 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Alec Berryman wrote:
 Giancarlo Razzolini on 2006-02-15 10:09:50 -0200:

 I do had some rules using the time patch in the iptables, and they
 worked well. Now that i migrated to openbsd, i want to do the same.  I
 will have to use cron and anchors, as someone suggested once ago, or
 someone already implemented or made a patch for doing this inside the
 pf itself?

 I'm not quite sure what 'the time patch in the iptables' is, but it
 sounds like you might want to check out expiretable.



Sorry, i forgot to explain what the time patch was. It can match a
packet based on it's arrival time and day of week. It's a very nice
thing for me that access my house machine from many places that have
fixed ip address. I can then limit the time window that they have to
connect to my machine. So i can only allow traffic from my job, for
example, in the times that i actually is there. More info can be found
in www.netfilter.org.

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DPD isakmpd question

2006-02-15 Thread Matthew Closson

Hello,

If you enable RFC3706 - Dead Peer Detection in isakmpd.conf, what is the 
result of a peer-failing the DPD check.  Will it Start over with Phase1 
negotiations again for that ISAKMP peer, or will it simply remove the SA 
and cookies and not try to renegotiate.  If anyone know off hand, thanks.


-Matt-



Re: Feb 13 X snapshot

2006-02-15 Thread Peter Valchev
The Feb 15 X snapshot should have this fixed.



Re: Time filtering with PF

2006-02-15 Thread Darrin Chandler

Giancarlo Razzolini wrote:


Sorry, i forgot to explain what the time patch was. It can match a
packet based on it's arrival time and day of week. It's a very nice
thing for me that access my house machine from many places that have
fixed ip address. I can then limit the time window that they have to
connect to my machine. So i can only allow traffic from my job, for
example, in the times that i actually is there. More info can be found
in www.netfilter.org.
 

In that case it would be very easy to do with pfctl and cron. Write your 
access rules without regard to time, but using tables. Then add or 
remove entries in the tables using cron. That way you can have quite 
flexible schedules, and add/delete/change hosts. And the rules will be 
simple and don't need to be changed when changing hosts or time. Only 
change the cron job(s).


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Re: -stable or -current kernel error

2006-02-15 Thread kami petersen

Paul Barbeau skrev:

I am trying to move from the base install from the CD/FTP to either
stable or current.  I get the same error regardless of what version I
try with and regardless of what machine (different components inside).
Below is the steps I am doing to rebuild the kernel and the error I am
getting.  Anyone have and ideas on how to correct this problem? Am I
doing it wrong and forgetting something?

cd /usr; cvs -q checkout -rOPENBSD_3_8 -P src 
cd /usr/src

find . -type l -name obj |xargs rm
make cleandir
rm -rf /usr/obj/*
make obj
cd /usr/src/etc  make DESTDIR=/ distrib-dirs
cd /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf
config GENERIC
cd ../compile/GENERIC
make clean 
make depend

make




you need to follow the faq sequentially. now, wipe src and obj and start 
over from the top of the page.


/kami



Re: ami0: timeout ccb 33

2006-02-15 Thread Marco Peereboom
It sounds like the firmware hung.  What were you doing at the time?

On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 08:34:39PM +0100, Thierry Lacoste wrote:
 This week-end my web server running 3.8 on a Dell
 PowerEdge 1800 went belly up.
 
 It was frozen but was responding to ping requests.
 I had only this message on the console:
 ami0: timeout ccb 33
 I had to restart it the hard way.
 Nothing in the logs.
 
 The machine has 3 SCSI disks factory configured in RAID5.
 It is a generic install with safte disabled.
 Below is the beginning of my dmesg.
 
 Any help to track down the problem would be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 Thierry.
 
 OpenBSD 3.8 (GENERIC) #138: Sat Sep 10 15:41:37 MDT 2005
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,CNXT-ID
 real mem  = 1073065984 (1047916K)
 avail mem = 972541952 (949748K)
 using 4278 buffers containing 53755904 bytes (52496K) of memory
 mainbus0 (root)
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 09/21/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90
 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfbb80/288 (16 entries)
 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82801EB/ER LPC rev 0x00)
 pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000! 0xcb000/0x1000 0xcc000/0x800 0xcc800/0x1000 
 0xcd800/0x2600 0xec000/0x4000!
 cpu0 at mainbus0
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7710 SMCH rev 0x09
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel E7710 MCH PCIE rev 0x09
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 mpt0 at pci2 dev 4 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0x08: irq 5
 mpt0: sending FW Upload request to IOC (size: 36, img size: 40048)
 mpt0: IM support: 0
 scsibus0 at mpt0: 16 targets
 ami0 at pci2 dev 5 function 0 Symbios Logic MegaRAID rev 0x01: irq 11 Dell 
 520/64b/lhc
 ami0: FW 351S, BIOS v1.10, 64MB RAM
 ami0: 1 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives
 scsibus1 at ami0: 40 targets
 sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: AMI, Host drive #00,  SCSI2 0/direct fixed
 sd0: 139760MB, 17816 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 286228480 sec total
 scsibus2 at ami0: 16 targets



Re: -stable or -current kernel error

2006-02-15 Thread Marco Peereboom
Or use a snapshot.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 12:30:12AM +0100, kami petersen wrote:
 Paul Barbeau skrev:
 I am trying to move from the base install from the CD/FTP to either
 stable or current.  I get the same error regardless of what version I
 try with and regardless of what machine (different components inside).
 Below is the steps I am doing to rebuild the kernel and the error I am
 getting.  Anyone have and ideas on how to correct this problem? Am I
 doing it wrong and forgetting something?
 
 cd /usr; cvs -q checkout -rOPENBSD_3_8 -P src 
 cd /usr/src
 find . -type l -name obj |xargs rm
 make cleandir
 rm -rf /usr/obj/*
 make obj
 cd /usr/src/etc  make DESTDIR=/ distrib-dirs
 cd /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf
 config GENERIC
 cd ../compile/GENERIC
 make clean 
 make depend
 make
 
 
 
 you need to follow the faq sequentially. now, wipe src and obj and start 
 over from the top of the page.
 
 /kami



Re: slow network performance

2006-02-15 Thread Steve Shockley

Joachim Mathes wrote:

- switched network cards from Realtek 8139 (100Mbit) to Realtek 8029 (10Mbit;
  works fine for pppoe) (I know they are of poor quality!) 


Throw out the Realtek cards and buy a good nic.  I had a server (clone 
P3) with network performance issues, saving files to the server would 
take forever but reading from the server would work okay.  I finally 
replaced the Linksys card (recognized as a dc, I think) with an em, all 
fixed.


It cold also be a duplex issue, look for collisions on the network 
interfaces.  Some cards will ignore you when you tell them what duplex 
to use.




network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread A Rossi

Hi,
I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network services for 
him, most of which are completely unrelated to my topic.

Now, onto my topic:
He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers 
(running windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a 
hidden partition which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible 
over the network to OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will 
change his mind...) to back up his server. He doesn't want his employees 
to know about it or to be able to interact with this hidden partition 
in any way. I told him that it is not possible, because windows controls 
the hardware (being the OS on the system) and the only way it would work 
was if he had *BSD on the system. But, because he is paying me, I 
thought I should give him the benefit of the doubt, and ask the pros in 
this area.
So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a bunch of hidden (I put it 
into quotes because it could be any non-windows compatible partition, 
because it won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup 
computers and treat them like one big disk for backup?


My apologies for such a long post. I am new to OpenBSD, but I like what 
I see.

Thanks,
A Rossi



Re: 3.8 bridge trouble

2006-02-15 Thread Jason Stubbs

Pailloncy Jean-Gerard wrote:
I want to use 2 soekris as redundant bridge filter, but I have many 
troubles.

[...]
Every servers I have have at least 2 nics.
I connect each server to 2 switchs, and the switchs together.
And for the moment only one switch has an uplink to my provider.
I will have (soon) a second link to the second switch.


So something like this?

 [ISP]
   |
 [SW1][SW2]
   ||
   | +--+
 [SKR]

I want to test the soekris as a bridge with 3 links: one to my provider, 
one to each switch.


I start the test by setting a bridge on 2 nics of the soekris connected 
to the 2 switchs. So now there is a loop between the switchs and the 
soekris.


And the first problem appears. If I ping from any computers on the 
segment to anything else I get a storm of thousand packet/seconds 
until I unplug a cable from the loop.


That's because of the loop. Even if the switches cache ARP replies and
send further packets directly to their destinations, the initial 
broadcasted ARP request is going to go round and round.



So I test with/without STP, link0: no more luke.


The above test was without STP, yes? Are you saying that when you 
enabled STP you got a message of link0: no more luke? Do your switches 
support STP and have it enabled?


Second part of the test, I set up a bridgename.bridge0 file with the 2 
nics up with STP, and I restart the soekris. Few seconds after the end 
of the boot (login prompt) immediate reboot of the soekris.


No idea what's happening here. Best guess would be protection against 
overheating. If there's nothing in your OS logs, check your BIOS for any

management logs.

--
Jason Stubbs



Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread Chris Zakelj
A Rossi wrote:
 Hi,
 I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network services
 for him, most of which are completely unrelated to my topic.
 Now, onto my topic:
 He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers
 (running windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a
 hidden partition which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible
 over the network to OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will
 change his mind...) to back up his server. He doesn't want his
 employees to know about it or to be able to interact with this hidden
 partition in any way. I told him that it is not possible, because
 windows controls the hardware (being the OS on the system) and the
 only way it would work was if he had *BSD on the system. But, because
 he is paying me, I thought I should give him the benefit of the doubt,
 and ask the pros in this area.
 So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a bunch of hidden (I put it
 into quotes because it could be any non-windows compatible partition,
 because it won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup
 computers and treat them like one big disk for backup?

 My apologies for such a long post. I am new to OpenBSD, but I like
 what I see.
 Thanks,
 A Rossi
I'm certainly no guru, but I can tell you this:  If the OS in control of
the system does not understand the file system of the partition, then no
other system will be able to access it in any meaningful way.  That
said, I think you could create a C partition, and house the user's
Windows installation and applications on it.  Then create a second D
partition, and lock the view/use rights for that partition to
administrator accounts only.  Share that partition with the usual
Windows file and printer sharing, then access it through SAMBA with
administrator credentials.



Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread A Rossi
As I though. That is what I told my client. Thank you for verifying my 
knowledge.


Chris Zakelj wrote:

A Rossi wrote:
  

Hi,
I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network services
for him, most of which are completely unrelated to my topic.
Now, onto my topic:
He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers
(running windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a
hidden partition which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible
over the network to OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will
change his mind...) to back up his server. He doesn't want his
employees to know about it or to be able to interact with this hidden
partition in any way. I told him that it is not possible, because
windows controls the hardware (being the OS on the system) and the
only way it would work was if he had *BSD on the system. But, because
he is paying me, I thought I should give him the benefit of the doubt,
and ask the pros in this area.
So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a bunch of hidden (I put it
into quotes because it could be any non-windows compatible partition,
because it won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup
computers and treat them like one big disk for backup?

My apologies for such a long post. I am new to OpenBSD, but I like
what I see.
Thanks,
A Rossi


I'm certainly no guru, but I can tell you this:  If the OS in control of
the system does not understand the file system of the partition, then no
other system will be able to access it in any meaningful way.  That
said, I think you could create a C partition, and house the user's
Windows installation and applications on it.  Then create a second D
partition, and lock the view/use rights for that partition to
administrator accounts only.  Share that partition with the usual
Windows file and printer sharing, then access it through SAMBA with
administrator credentials.




Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread ober
I would install OpenAFS on all the windows boxes, then use one of many 
methods to hide those processes.


Then you could have each drive mounted/hosting different logical volumes.
And they would all be available from any OS with a afs client, which 
almost all are supported.


-Ober

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what would you do?

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, A Rossi wrote:


Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:53:14 -0800
From: A Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: network distributed storage with windows?

Hi,
I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network services for him, 
most of which are completely unrelated to my topic.

Now, onto my topic:
He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers (running 
windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a hidden partition 
which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible over the network to 
OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will change his mind...) to 
back up his server. He doesn't want his employees to know about it or to be 
able to interact with this hidden partition in any way. I told him that it 
is not possible, because windows controls the hardware (being the OS on the 
system) and the only way it would work was if he had *BSD on the system. But, 
because he is paying me, I thought I should give him the benefit of the 
doubt, and ask the pros in this area.
So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a bunch of hidden (I put it into 
quotes because it could be any non-windows compatible partition, because it 
won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup computers and treat 
them like one big disk for backup?


My apologies for such a long post. I am new to OpenBSD, but I like what I 
see.

Thanks,
A Rossi




Re: cardbus cant map interrupt - asus pundit barebone

2006-02-15 Thread Nick Guenther
On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi fellows,

 having issues to get the cardbus working.

 Hardware: Asus Pundit AB-P2600
 Cardbus Chipset: ENE CB-710Q Chip

 vendor ENE, unknown product 0x0510 (class memory subclass flash, rev
 0x00) at pci2 dev 12 funct

'unknown product' means there's no drivers for it.



Re: OT: VPN + default route - how? ( moved from pf@ )

2006-02-15 Thread jared r r spiegel
  this should probably move to misc@; not pf-related, afaict.

On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 07:29:17AM -0600, Travis H. wrote:
 
 Basically I've got a remote node that is directly attached to an
 untrusted LAN (think metropolitan) and the firewall/gateway to the
 internet/VPN peer are the same machine, also directly attached to the
 LAN.

  might just be my poor english, but does that mean that the 
  remote node you have is the firewall/gateway/VPN peer, or
  that there is an untrusted LAN out there where you have 
  some subnet A, and one host on that subnet is a node
  who is the remote VPN peer, and there is another node who
  is on subnet A who uses the remote VPN peer as its default gateway?

 I tried setting up a network route to 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 in
 isakmpd.conf but it didn't seem to do what I wanted to.

  if you do that, it will make a flow with those network criteria.
  packets traversing the VPN machine on your side ( eg , if it is
  normally being used for ip.forwarding=1 ) can match that flow
  prior to a normal route lookup ( afaict ), but packets originating
  on the machine itself will only be checked against the flows
  after they go through normal route lookup.  make sure to 
  not cloud the understanding that isakmpd adds, or rather can 
  add, encap flows, but does not alter the normal (inet/inet6)
  routing tables.

  or in short, from what i've seen in my uses, the following
  match-order:

- traffic which originates on my VPN gateway:

1) netstat -rnf inet
2) netstat -rnf encap

- traffic which originates behind it and will be forwarded through:

1) netstat -rnf encap
2) netstat -rnf inet

  hopefully i am not too inaccurate or misleading there.  i 
  don't doubt i'm missing some details, please don't call those
  guesses a religion.

  anyway, that was dealing mostly with the encap flows.

  so you're not looking to change the 'inet' default route on
  the VPN/gateway peer, but rather, you want a 0/0 as a destination
  for an encap flow that is present on the VPN/gateway peer?

  like:

---
Encap:
Source Port  DestinationPort  Proto 
SA(Address/Proto/Type/Direction)
172.16.1.8/32  0 0.0.0.0/0  0 0 18.100.128.63/50/use/in
0.0.0.0/0  0 172.16.1.8/32  0 0 
18.100.128.63/50/require/out
---

  where 172.16.1.8 is the remote node that is behind this
  VPN peer, and 18.100.128.63 is the external IP of your local
  side this remote makes VPN connection to?  (assumption is
  that the remote VPN peer would also have an IP in the 172.16.1.xxx
  subnet)?

  sudo route add
 
 Ugh, netstart should read a file in /etc/ for them or something.

  should?  ... that might just be a difference in methodology
  between OS A and B.

 Am I the only one who fiddles with /etc/netstart?

  you can put your route stuff right in hostname.if with 
  !/sbin/route blahblah.  i do that for the static routes
  i need to add, either in hostname.enc0 or wherever i find
  most intuitive.

  i don't fiddle with netstart at all.  perhaps it is only
  the result of the fortune of my scenario being not too
  complex, but i get everything done with a few !s in
  hostname.if files..

-- 

  jared

[ openbsd 3.9-beta GENERIC ( jan 30 ) // i386 ]



Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread Shane J Pearson

Hi,

On 2006.02.16, at 12:53 PM, A Rossi wrote:


He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers
(running windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a
hidden partition which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible
over the network to OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will
change his mind...) to back up his server.


Years ago while working for an educational institution, I cobbled
together some programs to allow some classroom machines to be brought
back to SOE automatically every night after classes, as long as the
machines were switched off at the end of the day.

I used the automatic power ON feature on the PC's to switch them ON
automatically at 11pm, and then Smart Boot Manager, which has boot
schedule features which could be configured to automatically boot a
hidden DOS partition if the PC's were booted at around that time. That
hidden DOS partition would then run Ghost to restore the WinNT partition
to SOE. Once that was done I had a small util power the machines OFF.
Smart Boot Manager can be configured with a boot delay of zero seconds,
so the staff should never see it.

One thing you might be able to do, is if those PC's have the auto power
ON feature, use smart boot manager to do much the same, but boot OpenBSD
instead and maybe run Samba to receive those backups. Then have OpenBSD
power those PC's off before work begins the next morning. Maybe rsync
or Unison would be better.


Having said all that, you really should be convincing him that a real
backup scheme should be employed. That is dodgy. The backups could be
corrupted through a multitude of ways or copied by a savvy malicious
staff member. What if there is a fire?


Shane J Pearsonshanejp netspace net au   -|



Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread Eric Johnson
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:53:14 -0800
A Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network services
 for  him, most of which are completely unrelated to my topic.
 Now, onto my topic:
 He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers 
 (running windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a 
 hidden partition which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible 
 over the network to OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will
  change his mind...) to back up his server. He doesn't want his
  employees 
 to know about it or to be able to interact with this hidden
 partition  in any way. I told him that it is not possible, because
 windows controls  the hardware (being the OS on the system) and the
 only way it would work  was if he had *BSD on the system. But, because
 he is paying me, I  thought I should give him the benefit of the
 doubt, and ask the pros in  this area.
 So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a bunch of hidden (I put it
  into quotes because it could be any non-windows compatible partition,
  
 because it won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup 
 computers and treat them like one big disk for backup?

It might be possible to do something similar by setting the permissions
on the partition to disallow all access from the normal user.  The users
would be able to see the existence of the partition but not be able to
access it if they can't change the permissions.

Then if you can find a windows NFS server that runs as a daemon and
allow the partition to be accessed over the network only from the
BSD server.

Or if you could find a ssh daemon for windows, you could use that to
allow the server to use scp to transfer files back and forth.

Eric Johnson



Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread Eric Johnson
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:53:14 -0800
A Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network services
 for  him, most of which are completely unrelated to my topic.
 Now, onto my topic:
 He asked me if I could partition all of his workstation computers 
 (running windows XP Professional SP2) with a windows partition, and a 
 hidden partition which occupies most of the disk, that is accessible 
 over the network to OpenBSD (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will
  change his mind...) to back up his server. He doesn't want his
  employees 
 to know about it or to be able to interact with this hidden
 partition  in any way. I told him that it is not possible, because
 windows controls  the hardware (being the OS on the system) and the
 only way it would work  was if he had *BSD on the system. But, because
 he is paying me, I  thought I should give him the benefit of the
 doubt, and ask the pros in  this area.
 So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a bunch of hidden (I put it
  into quotes because it could be any non-windows compatible partition,
  
 because it won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup 
 computers and treat them like one big disk for backup?

It might be possible to do something similar by setting the permissions
on the partition to disallow all access from the normal user.  The users
would be able to see the existence of the partition but not be able to
access it if they can't change the permissions.

Then if you can find a windows NFS server that runs as a daemon and
allow the partition to be accessed over the network only from the
BSD server.

Or if you could find a ssh daemon for windows, you could use that to
allow the server to use scp to transfer files back and forth.

Eric Johnson





Re: slow network performance

2006-02-15 Thread Steven S
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently tried to use netperf, but it seemed more to test
 my CPU than
 the network and thus reporting low througput. benchmarks/netstrain is
 much less demanding on the CPU. Of course, one may use ftp to download
 large files since the OpenBSD one reports speed as well.
 
 /Sigfred
 
 Sebastian Schmitzdorff wrote:
 Hi,
 
 if I understand you correctly your testing consists of up and
 downloads on your openbsd router. This is not the proper way to test
 network performance on a router. I recommend using tools that dont
 involve any i/o operations such as netperf etc.

I found iperf to be simple to use, and highlighted the significance of tcp
window size selection.  Even on a LAN I found a higher (double the default)
values for net.inet.tcp.recvspace and net.inet.tcp.sendspace improved (TCP)
throughput significantly.  

-Steve S. 



Re: cardbus cant map interrupt - asus pundit barebone

2006-02-15 Thread David Gwynne

On 16/02/2006, at 2:25 PM, Nick Guenther wrote:

On 2/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hi fellows,

having issues to get the cardbus working.

Hardware: Asus Pundit AB-P2600
Cardbus Chipset: ENE CB-710Q Chip

vendor ENE, unknown product 0x0510 (class memory subclass flash,  
rev

0x00) at pci2 dev 12 funct


'unknown product' means there's no drivers for it.


no, it just means we dont have an entry for it in our pci device list  
inside the kernel. not all drivers need pci dev entries for matching  
on a device. for example all the usb host controller drivers attach  
on the devices class, not its vendor and product ids. in this  
situation you can have a driver happily attach to a device while  
printing out unknown product.


dlg



Re: 3.8 bridge trouble

2006-02-15 Thread Camiel Dobbelaar
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006, Pailloncy Jean-Gerard wrote:
 Second part of the test, I set up a bridgename.bridge0 file with the 2 nics up
 with STP, and I restart the soekris. Few seconds after the end of the boot
 (login prompt) immediate reboot of the soekris.
 I stop it by, as soon as login prompt appears, to log in and put down the
 bridge.
 
 In fact sometimes when there is a big storm the soekris reboots too.

Is the watchdog timer (sysctl kern.watchdog) set?  I've seen Soekrises 
reboot because of that when under high network load.


--
Cam



error installing python 2.3 from OpenBSD 3.8 ports

2006-02-15 Thread Siju George
Hi all,

I was trying to install Python 2.3 from OpenBSD 3.8 ports for

http://www.jackal-net.at/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=1

The install did not succeed and I got an error message.
Could someone please help me troubleshoot it?

The error messagr is shown below



# cd ports/lang/python/2.3/
# make install
===  Checking files for python-2.3.5p2
 Python-2.3.5.tgz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
 Attempting to fetch /usr/ports/distfiles/Python-2.3.5.tgz from ftp://ftp.pyth
on.org/pub/python/2.3.5/.
ftp: connect: Connection refused
ftp: Can't connect or login to host `ftp.python.org'
 Attempting to fetch /usr/ports/distfiles/Python-2.3.5.tgz from http://python.
mirrors.pair.com/ftp/python/2.3.5/.
ftp: Error retrieving file: 404 Not Found
 Attempting to fetch /usr/ports/distfiles/Python-2.3.5.tgz from http://python.
mirrors.ilisys.com.au/ftp/python/2.3.5/.
100% |**|  8335 KB02:31
 Size matches for /usr/ports/distfiles/Python-2.3.5.tgz
 Checksum OK for Python-2.3.5.tgz. (sha1)
===  python-2.3.5p2 depends on: db-4.2.52p2 - not found
===  Verifying install for db-4.2.52p2 in databases/db/v4
===  Checking files for db-4.2.52p2
 db-4.2.52.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system.
 Attempting to fetch /usr/ports/distfiles/db-4.2.52.tar.gz from http://www.sle
epycat.com//update/snapshot/.
ftp: Error retrieving file: 404 Not Found
 Attempting to fetch /usr/ports/distfiles/db-4.2.52.tar.gz from ftp://sleepyca
t1.inetu.net/releases/.
100% |**|  3827 KB01:52
 Size does not match for /usr/ports/distfiles/db-4.2.52.tar.gz
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/databases/db/v4 (line 1990 of /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bs
d.port.mk).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/databases/db/v4 (line 1444 of /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bs
d.port.mk).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/databases/db/v4 (line 1633 of /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bs
d.port.mk).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/python/2.3 (line 1334 of /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bs
d.port.mk).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/python/2.3 (line 1633 of /usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bs
d.port.mk).
#

Thankyou so much

Kind Regards

Siju



Re: network distributed storage with windows?

2006-02-15 Thread A Rossi
What a multitude of options I have! I'll probably end up not reporting 
these solutions to my client, so that he'll use a more traditional 
backup method.
   The OpenAFS solution would be nice, if I could find it in package 
form for OpenBSD, or a port for FreeBSD, but I can find neither. Also, 
if it weren't for some of the reasons below, it would be a decent 
solution, except for hiding the process from the users.
   Having the machines auto-boot and load a hidden OS sounds like a 
great idea... if I had the hardware to carry it out. I do not believe 
that the motherboards support that feature. Shane also points out the 
excellent fact that this is a little dangerous. Although, I didn't 
mention it, I was secretly hoping for a solution that could implement a 
sort of parity, similar to that of RAID5, where if one of the computers 
died, the backup would still be useable. I also did not mention that 
there was another backup solution in development, but these seemed 
irrelevant at the time of posting.
   My client didn't really like the idea of just making a windows 
partition and disallowing the users from accessing it with permissions, 
because then they'd know about something... And some might complain 
about it being broken - they have several older people on staff who 
aren't as computer literate.
And, honestly, I did not know that windows even has daemons. I thought 
that was a Unix concept.
Anyways, thanks for the input, and don't stop! One idea might spark a 
thought in the right direction (as is the case with me, usually).

A Rossi

P.S.
My apologies to those of you who use console-based mail clients. I'm 
still trying to figure out how to get Thunderbird to wrap my text at 72 
characters. Yes, I know about the setting under Tools  Options, but 
that doesn't seem to be working correctly...



Eric Johnson wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:53:14 -0800 A Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hi, I've been hired by a client to perform a number of network
 services for  him, most of which are completely unrelated to my
 topic. Now, onto my topic: He asked me if I could partition all of
 his workstation computers (running windows XP Professional SP2)
 with a windows partition, and a hidden partition which occupies
 most of the disk, that is accessible over the network to OpenBSD
 (actually he asked for FreeBSD, but I will change his mind...) to
 back up his server. He doesn't want his employees to know about it
 or to be able to interact with this hidden partition  in any way.
 I told him that it is not possible, because windows controls the
 hardware (being the OS on the system) and the only way it would
 work  was if he had *BSD on the system. But, because he is paying
 me, I  thought I should give him the benefit of the doubt, and ask
 the pros in  this area. So, is it possible for OpenBSD to access a
 bunch of hidden (I put it into quotes because it could be any
 non-windows compatible partition,

 because it won't show it then) partitions on networked workgroup
 computers and treat them like one big disk for backup?

 It might be possible to do something similar by setting the
 permissions on the partition to disallow all access from the normal
 user.  The users would be able to see the existence of the partition
 but not be able to access it if they can't change the permissions.

 Then if you can find a windows NFS server that runs as a daemon and
 allow the partition to be accessed over the network only from the BSD
 server.

 Or if you could find a ssh daemon for windows, you could use that to
 allow the server to use scp to transfer files back and forth.

 Eric Johnson