Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:57:23:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) What are you getting at? ;) Sorry, I don't get this one. Either it's too late or I'm too stupid. You want to say what? Rocco msg26246/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alright, I wasn't exactly thinking when I said all gpl, but you know % what I mean. Everything on my system is compiled from source, it's all % one free license or another. We figured out what you meant when you made such a broad and fairly unsupportable statement. What you said and what you meant, though, were two different things -- and you can count on this bunch to notice! % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % Save yourself! Reboot in 5 seconds! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26260/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Will Yardley spake thus: % Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: % I don't use ps. Or any replacements. % % why ever not? % % Because I don't really know what it is, what it does, or why I'd ever % want to use it. ps is process status or something like that, and it shows you what's going on in your system. Think top without all of the overhead of top. It's really quite handy, especially if you ever want to kill a job. % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % While your friend holds you affectionately by both your hands you are % safe, for you can watch both of his. % -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26261/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
27-Mar-02 at 08:09, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : % Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: % I don't use ps. Or any replacements. % % why ever not? % % Because I don't really know what it is, what it does, or why I'd ever % want to use it. ps is process status or something like that, and it shows you what's going on in your system. Think top without all of the overhead of top. It's really quite handy, especially if you ever want to kill a job. Handier still for parsing to find out if a process is running, and to HUP / kill it if necessary, or restart a daemon if ps doesn't report that it runs. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:57.12% see www.mersenne.org] It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. -- E. W. Dijkstra [Arbitrary quotes signature rotation, a simple bash script by Simon White]
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) =20 What are you getting at? ;) =20 Sorry, I don't get this one. Either it's too late or I'm too stupid. You want to say what? I believe that's what I just said to you. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When you're not looking at it, this fortune is written in FORTRAN. --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8og81PTh2iSBKeccRAk1KAJ91ERAErbixhV9luo830EruYCxI1wCeMlBz 6wsGv8ibizi89VHnVivucIs= =YZO5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --zYM0uCDKw75PZbzx--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: % You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the % beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke. % % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). Just ignore x-nuke, of course. % % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % displayed. Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. % % It's still easier to just rip the headers right out. Yeah, but that's the Wrong Way. % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you % would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26133/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). % % ignore received x-nuke % % There are other headers I want to hide though. Of course. You could even x-nuke all of them. % % The only headers that I _want_ to see are done with an unignore in my % .muttrc, immediately following an ignore *. x-nuke wouldn't work in % that situation, and to prepend x-nuke to _everything_ that I want to % hide is just out of the question. Too much work. What's the work? - Nuke all headers; now they're hidden. - Now un-nuke the few headers you want to see; now they're visible. - Tell mutt to ignore x-nuke and you're done. Don't like that? Then turn it around. - Nuke only the headers you want to toss. - tell mutt to ignore x-nuke and you're done. % % What I have now with formail working against incredimail _works_, that's % the point. It's exactly what I want. Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % You may have heard that a dean is to faculty as a hydrant is to a dog. % -- Alfred Kahn :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26134/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Alas! Rocco Rutte spake thus: A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) What are you getting at? ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. -- Dennis Ritchie msg26189/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--vJguvTgX93MxBIIe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, it's wakie-wakie time! Alas! David T-G spake thus: % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % david posted). =20 Just ignore x-nuke, of course. Did you miss the first half of this thread? the ignore command will not work after an unignore command. IOW, this: unignore x- ignore x-nuke _does_not_hide_x-nuke_headers_ % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % displayed. =20 Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. The problem is that x-nuke _IS_ an x- header. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sometimes when I get up in the morning, I feel very peculiar. I feel like I've just got to bite a cat! I feel like if I don't bite a cat before sundown, I'll go crazy! But then I just take a deep breath and forget about it. That's what is known as real maturity. -- Snoopy --vJguvTgX93MxBIIe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oNOZPTh2iSBKeccRAkL6AJ4h9VzzBp6T8KoE5RoR018xYbyzaACfbodP j8s7yYjNHOLNwV54IlgxkRY= =8hvW -END PGP SIGNATURE- --vJguvTgX93MxBIIe--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... How is my solution not elegant? It's a simple 3 lines that trashes a bunch of headers that I don't want to see. Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it is... :P --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to wear tail lights. --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oNQePTh2iSBKeccRAkQWAKCEHlrMHYPIgA1RqqoO1R6LRjBohACfR11v LqmM/kLlSVLdXCDVRyVI/us= =6o5S -END PGP SIGNATURE- --xHbokkKX1kTiQeDC--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Just working isn't enough. It has to be elegant and clever with a dash % of magic. *mutter* Kids these days... % % How is my solution not elegant? It's a simple 3 lines that trashes a % bunch of headers that I don't want to see. Yeah, but there's no magic; it's not clever. % % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P No, that's left as an exercise for the student. Really :-) % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % Kansas state law requires pedestrians crossing the highways at night to % wear tail lights. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26201/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % David, it's wakie-wakie time! What? 42! The battle of the bulge! % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % % That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke % % without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess % % david posted). % % Just ignore x-nuke, of course. % % Did you miss the first half of this thread? No. % % the ignore command will not work after an unignore command. IOW, this: % % unignore x- % ignore x-nuke % % _does_not_hide_x-nuke_headers_ Of course not. So don't unignore x-, silly; you shouldn't be ignoring * in the first place, but instead just ignoring the x-nuke headers when you get to them. % % % I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it % % would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be % % displayed. % % Ah... So don't prepend x-nuke to *all* x- headers. Piece of cake. % % The problem is that x-nuke _IS_ an x- header. Of course it is. We all know that. % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % Sometimes when I get up in the morning, I feel very peculiar. I feel % like I've just got to bite a cat! I feel like if I don't bite a cat % before sundown, I'll go crazy! But then I just take a deep breath and % forget about it. That's what is known as real maturity. % -- Snoopy :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26202/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P No, that's left as an exercise for the student. Really :-) This student is not interested in wasting time on procmail/formail silliness. I've just recompiled my kernel with reiserfs support, and I've _finally_ wiped my old windows partition[0], in preparation for my second Linux From Scratch installation. I don't have any time for anything else today. [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cold, adj.: When the politicians walk around with their hands in their own pockets. msg26218/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0700: [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) You don't have ps? What are you using instead? msg26222/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:= 37PM -0700: [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) =20 You don't have ps? What are you using instead? I don't use ps. Or any replacements. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- When in panic, fear and doubt, Drink in barrels, eat, and shout. --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oS50PTh2iSBKeccRAkSWAJ95vW0Uy5KDdvcuXp2HVqc0H/rC5ACfQYlI RJKN4ZgLfUWQzzGxYk+meMM= =DLWY -END PGP SIGNATURE- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:29:08PM -0700: I don't use ps. Or any replacements. Ok. Do you use vim? msg26224/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0700, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Lets see you work out an x-nuke solution and we'll see how many lines it % is... :P [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) SSH, openssl? I thought they were bsd like, Perl, X11, apache? really *ALL* binaries gpl, must be quite limited... Michael. -- Dr Michael A. Maibaum - (W)+1 (415) 561 1682 - (H)+1 (415) 626 6733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.gene-hacker.net/ msg26225/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: I don't use ps. Or any replacements. why ever not? what license does the version of 'ps' you're talking about use? for that matter, i'm almost certain there's a GNU version of ps for all you freakin' GNazis. ladd% apt-get source procps Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Need to get 236kB of source archives. Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org woody/main procps 1:2.0.7-8 (dsc) [631B] Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org woody/main procps 1:2.0.7-8 (tar) [210kB] Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org woody/main procps 1:2.0.7-8 (diff) [25.5kB] Fetched 236kB in 3s (75.0kB/s) dpkg-source: extracting procps in procps-2.0.7 ladd% pwd /home/william/procps-2.0.7/ps ladd% head COPYING GNU LIBRARY GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991 Copyright (C) 1991 Free Software Foundation, Inc. 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307 USA Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed. ladd% cd .. ladd% head -1 COPYING GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
--gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Will Yardley spake thus: Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: I don't use ps. Or any replacements. =20 why ever not? Because I don't really know what it is, what it does, or why I'd ever want to use it. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- While your friend holds you affectionately by both your hands you are safe, for you can watch both of his. -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oTwYPTh2iSBKeccRAlPYAJ9ml4W6xOwlGP9Oyzy4ZEniIa74jgCdHpmR GixveMdxpyp65iQ96S99lWY= =8O7K -END PGP SIGNATURE- --gBBFr7Ir9EOA20Yy--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:02:10PM -0800: /home/william/procps-2.0.7/ps ladd% head COPYING GNU LIBRARY GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE You quoted it right there; it's not GPL, it's LGPL. I was yanking Rob's chain, because he's an evil bastard. :-) msg26230/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-25 14:05:45 -0700]: Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke. That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be displayed. It's still easier to just rip the headers right out. -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. I must be missing something, but wouldn't you just add: ignore X-Nuke ...which is actually, in practice, more like ignore X-Nuke*? Still, if you have a system that does what you want, go with it. Philosophically I agree with whoever it was that said deleting content from an email was to be avoided at all costs, but it's your mail. I just know it would bug me more to know I was deleting headers than to look at the cruft. :) -- ridiculously long signature snipped, I know I go over 72x4 regularly but this one was just silly. :) msg26240/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob, et al -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: % % Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip % them out; that will work as a general solution in case somebody else % uses Incredimail. % % Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Rather than using procmail, which will *gasp* change the mail as it comes in, just have mutt ignore those headers that you don't want to see and update your list as you see new ones. To wit: ignore from received content- mime-version status x-status message-id ignore sender references return-path lines ignore x-priority x-ms list-id precedence x-mailman x-mime x-beenthere ignore x-exp x-wm x-webmail errors-to ignore x-authentication mail-followup-to in-reply-to organization ignore mailing-list x-originating x-egroups list-unsubscribe # egroups buffalos ignore x-no-archive list-help list-subscribe list-post# SHLOL ignore x-ml-name x-mlserver x-mail-count x-ml-info# tlinux-users ignore x-antiabuse# good grief... ignore x-legal-notice x-disclaimer x-no-spam # ken wahl loves these... unignore from: subject to cc date x-mailer x-url delivered-to HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26055/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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--2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: Rather than using procmail, which will *gasp* change the mail as it comes in, just have mutt ignore those headers that you don't want to see and update your list as you see new ones. To wit: =20 ignore from received content- mime-version status x-status message-id ignore sender references return-path lines ignore x-priority x-ms list-id precedence x-mailman x-mime x-beenthere ignore x-exp x-wm x-webmail errors-to ignore x-authentication mail-followup-to in-reply-to organization ignore mailing-list x-originating x-egroups list-unsubscribe# egroups = buffalos ignore x-no-archive list-help list-subscribe list-post # SHLOL ignore x-ml-name x-mlserver x-mail-count x-ml-info # tlinux-users ignore x-antiabuse # good grief... ignore x-legal-notice x-disclaimer x-no-spam# ken wahl loves these... unignore from: subject to cc date x-mailer x-url delivered-to Oh yuck! You don't honestly believe that that mess is a better solution than a 3-line procmail recepie, do you? Besides, those ignore commands you posted don't include the 30 or so obnoxious incredimail headers. Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with them (the headers, not the people) :P --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- BOFH excuse #133: It's not plugged in. --2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n34aPTh2iSBKeccRAr12AJ0RR0Mb6uP1qHhtDLoSLGU9rJPRHQCfapGB UHypQJXQtw0fLTbrlmlucc0= =gs5Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- --2FkSFaIQeDFoAt0B--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
Rob -- ...and then Feztaa said... % % Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Rather than using procmail, which will *gasp* change the mail as it comes % in, just have mutt ignore those headers that you don't want to see and % update your list as you see new ones. To wit: ... % % Oh yuck! You don't honestly believe that that mess is a better solution % than a 3-line procmail recepie, do you? Sure I do... It doesn't change the original mail message and it reminds me of what I've tossed for when I later want to go back and look at it again. % % Besides, those ignore commands you posted don't include the 30 or so % obnoxious incredimail headers. Well, add one or two incredimail lines, then :-) % % Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to % accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with % them (the headers, not the people) :P Oh, I think you shouldn't have to put up with the users, either! % % -- % Rob 'Feztaa' Park % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % -- % BOFH excuse #133: % It's not plugged in. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26078/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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--cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! David T-G spake thus: % Oh yuck! You don't honestly believe that that mess is a better solution % than a 3-line procmail recepie, do you? =20 Sure I do... It doesn't change the original mail message and it reminds me of what I've tossed for when I later want to go back and look at it again. Dude, that mess is almost akin to a bubble sort :P I'd rather just rip off all the useless headers with an elegant 3-line procmail recipie than have to hide them all with 10 or 20 lines of ignore statements. % Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to % accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up w= ith % them (the headers, not the people) :P =20 Oh, I think you shouldn't have to put up with the users, either! Lol, it's just my grandmother. I don't think she'll understand the finer points of using The One True Mail User Agent ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kissing don't last, cookery do. -- George Meredith --cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n4ezPTh2iSBKeccRAn54AJ98xaA7zdOP5aVGLbkMHwUYodrzwwCgiHVy LjeCnKtT+fIWULk3lcSTaVE= =O2Bc -END PGP SIGNATURE- --cPi+lWm09sJ+d57q--
Re: ignore command does not seem to work
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:44:26PM -0700: Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with them (the headers, not the people) :P If you want elegant: ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject list user-agent x-mailer I mean, who really cares about all that other crapola? Most people could go the extra bit and snatch user-agent and x-mailer out of there. And you can always hit h if you wanna see the crapola. msg26090/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Shawn, et al -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % If you want elegant: % % ignore * % unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject list user-agent x-mailer % % I mean, who really cares about all that other crapola? Well, yeah. If you want to go that far, ... % % Most people could go the extra bit and snatch user-agent and x-mailer % out of there. ... and reply-to, since mutt knows that for you, and list, since you've no doubt already sorted the message, and probably to and cc since you know you got it and you don't typically care who else got it, and subject since that's still visible in your $pager_index_lines of index display, and probably date as well for the same reason. Now *that* is elegant. % % And you can always hit h if you wanna see the crapola. Agreed. Who needs such clutter on a daily basis? :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26091/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 01:25:23PM -0700: I'd rather just rip off all the useless headers with an elegant 3-line procmail recipie than have to hide them all with 10 or 20 lines of ignore statements. You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke. Then you can always see them if you want to. msg26092/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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--CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: I mean, who really cares about all that other crapola? A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If your mother knew what you're doing, she'd probably hang her head and cry. --CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n5BZPTh2iSBKeccRAsRfAJ4kp2S/pwnd7XCTl+m9v+grT4Rk3wCeM1Qt ni8ORqB7acSZKa8DzBwSEFw= =kI3O -END PGP SIGNATURE- --CNfT9TXqV7nd4cfk--
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--MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: You can have it both ways; use Procmail to prepend X-Nuke at the beginning of all the bad lines, then ignore X-Nuke. That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). I know I'd be breaking some RFC, but if I prepended just 'Nuke' then it would get hidden, and the real X- headers that I want would be displayed. It's still easier to just rip the headers right out. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. --MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n5EpPTh2iSBKeccRAodpAJ9tRH7c79Gb4UtUS4nGGXSyCL+duwCdFcjk 728GRsClk+eqp2bE1x/l03Y= =wx9m -END PGP SIGNATURE- --MFZs98Tklfu0WsCO--
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begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:05:45PM -0700: That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). ignore received x-nuke msg26096/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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--yklP1rR72f9kjNtc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). =20 ignore received x-nuke There are other headers I want to hide though. The only headers that I _want_ to see are done with an unignore in my =2Emuttrc, immediately following an ignore *. x-nuke wouldn't work in that situation, and to prepend x-nuke to _everything_ that I want to hide is just out of the question. Too much work. What I have now with formail working against incredimail _works_, that's the point. It's exactly what I want. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You may have heard that a dean is to faculty as a hydrant is to a dog. -- Alfred Kahn --yklP1rR72f9kjNtc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8n5f4PTh2iSBKeccRAl4cAKCFNvr9YL7cnOCkefGWiml+ATqoDwCdHOb8 BrPTQadek79KRczAKIvyFIQ= =Go6Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- --yklP1rR72f9kjNtc--
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begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:34:48PM -0700: ignore received x-nuke There are other headers I want to hide though. When I said have procmail prepend all the bad headers, I meant every header you'd like to hide. The only headers that I _want_ to see are done with an unignore in my .muttrc, immediately following an ignore *. x-nuke wouldn't work in that situation, and to prepend x-nuke to _everything_ that I want to hide is just out of the question. Too much work. What work? You do it one time, procmail does it after that. What I have now with formail working against incredimail _works_, that's the point. It's exactly what I want. Well, now, this is the Open Source world, where our motto is if it ain't broke, fix it. Didn't you get the memo? :-) msg26099/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi, On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:02:17:PM -0700 Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: A lot of people on this list and others have creative X- headers that I enjoy reading. It's just as much a part of the email as the body of the message is. As your X-Uptime header which could be - at least - at bit more specific? ;-) Rocco msg26117/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc: ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent ignore x-status x-uid x-keywords x-accept-language x-imagebase x-fid ignore x-mailer x-priority x-fid x-fver x-fit x-fcol x-fcat x-fdis ignore x-extensions x-bg x-bgt x-bgc x-bgpx x-bgpy x-asn x-asnf x-ash ignore x-x-ashf an x-anf x-ap x-apf x-ad x-adf x-auto x-cnt The idea is that I want to ignore everything by default, display some stuff, and then hide a bunch of boring X- headers that are used in some broken proprietary mailers, which have no real importance to me. The problem is, all of the ignore commands after the unignore seem to do nothing (they certainly aren't ignoring those headers, anyway). Can anybody tell me what's up? The manual says nothing about ignore not working after an unignore. Thanks ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A young girl once committed suicide because her mother refused her a new bonnet. Coroner's verdict: Death from excessive spunk. -- Sacramento Daily Union, September 13, 1860
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* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]: This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc: ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent ignore x-status x-uid x-keywords x-accept-language x-imagebase x-fid ignore x-mailer x-priority x-fid x-fver x-fit x-fcol x-fcat x-fdis ignore x-extensions x-bg x-bgt x-bgc x-bgpx x-bgpy x-asn x-asnf x-ash ignore x-x-ashf an x-anf x-ap x-apf x-ad x-adf x-auto x-cnt hmm The idea is that I want to ignore everything by default, display some stuff, seems fair to me and then hide a bunch of boring X- headers that are used in some broken proprietary mailers, which have no real importance to me. Hmm. Why do you want to ignore something which /is already/ ignored? Look at this: hide everything show a b c d e hide f g h i j k.(alreday hidden by the first line) The problem is, all of the ignore commands after the unignore seem to do nothing (they certainly aren't ignoring those headers, anyway). Can anybody tell me what's up? The manual says nothing about ignore not working after an unignore. Maybe _I'm_ missing something here? Anyway, hope this helps. -- voff, voff (Swedish for 'arf, arf')
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* Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 19.26 +0100]: * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]: This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc: ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent Dang, I shouldn't read mail without my glasses on! Sorry. -- voff, voff (Swedish for 'arf, arf')
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--9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Martin Karlsson spake thus: * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 11.15 -0700]: This is really weird. I have the following lines in my muttrc: =20 ignore * unignore date from: reply-to to cc subject x- list user-agent =20 Are you sure that the 'x-' actually works? Do you see any x-headers if you remove the following lines altogether? Yes, it works. I've just added those last four ignores today, the first ignore and unignore have been there since I first wrote my .muttrc, and I've always been able to see all the X- headers. Then one day my grandmother started using IncrediMail (I think) and now all her emails have 3 screenfuls of useless X- headers that I want to hide, without hiding the X- headers of *nix-using people who have creative and interesting ones :) Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- He who knows that enough is enough will always have enough. -- Lao Tsu --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8njogPTh2iSBKeccRAisVAJ0Xro8YDnPSKdwXA01WxiQH0kN4+gCfSxaO CsQvQ6Qhsn0UiMlvb062PbA= =kmpS -END PGP SIGNATURE- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj--
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begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:42:09PM -0700: Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip them out; that will work as a general solution in case somebody else uses Incredimail. msg25999/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13.42 -0700]: [...snip...] Then one day my grandmother started using IncrediMail (I think) and now all her emails have 3 screenfuls of useless X- headers that I want to hide, without hiding the X- headers of *nix-using people who have creative and interesting ones :) :-) Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? Hmm. Would a message-hook do this? Something along the lines of (untested): message-hook '~f grandma' ignore*;unignore: from cc date etc I'll try some things and see what happens :) Be well, Martin -- Mutt feature request: massage-hook Wouldn't it be great to have Mutt rub your neck while you read your mail? msg26001/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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--L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:42:09PM -0700: Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip them out; that will work as a general solution in case somebody else uses Incredimail. Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Sorry, I'm not very experienced with procmail. All I know how to do is sort based on what headers exist, nothing more :-\ --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- quit When the quit statement is read, the bc processor is terminated, regardless of where the quit state- ment is found. For example, if (0 =3D=3D 1) quit will cause bc to terminate. (Seen in the manpage for bc. Note the if statement's logic) --L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nj7/PTh2iSBKeccRApaDAJ420DupYMk5SRb7+J9xIfvYESDMAwCeNpOr FWRWe22CyIpE8t+1lLf+z3E= =HDM3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --L6iaP+gRLNZHKoI4--
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begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:02:55PM -0700: Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work. msg26006/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Okay, did som testing (nothing thorough, mind you), and this seems to be one of many(?) ways of doing it in Mutt. message-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'ignore x-' message-hook '~f @' 'unignore the headers I want to see' I guess these'll take precedence over the original values in your .muttrc. HTH -- Martin -- Albanian for 'arf, arf': 'ham ham' / 'hum hum' msg26010/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 16:06:29 -0500]: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 02:02:55PM -0700: Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work. formail with -I Nicolas
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Hi, * Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 22:02]: Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus: begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:42:09PM -0700: Maybe I could set up a hook of some kind that hides X- headers for my grandmother and nobody else? Or list all of the obnoxious ones, and then set up procmail to strip them out; that will work as a general solution in case somebody else uses Incredimail. Hey, that's a good idea. But how do I strip headers in procmail? Maybe you could patch something together using formail. Thorsten -- Unterschätze nie die Macht dummer Leute, die einer Meinung sind. - Kurt Tucholsky
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--doKZ0ri6bHmN2Q5y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Nicolas Rachinsky spake thus: Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work. =20 formail with -I You mean something like this at the beginning of my procmailrc: :0 Whf: * X-Mailer: IncrediMail.* |formail -I X- ? --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- =2E.. [concerning quotation marks] even if we *___=08=08=08did* quote anybo= dy in this business, it probably would be gibberish. -- Thom McLeod --doKZ0ri6bHmN2Q5y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nk6iPTh2iSBKeccRAnz/AJ0U8JnNCW0NqOySpTwhAqfFCKGHPgCfeoxf IGNiIDKR/Ucz5jgdoW8RBcg= =kvRR -END PGP SIGNATURE- --doKZ0ri6bHmN2Q5y--
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* Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 15:09:38 -0700]: Alas! Nicolas Rachinsky spake thus: Run stuff through sed, I suppose. I've never tried, but it should work. formail with -I You mean something like this at the beginning of my procmailrc: :0 Whf: * X-Mailer: IncrediMail.* |formail -I X- I think that's what I meant. In fact, I just wanted to suggest some alternative to sed. IMO formail is easier to use for this kind of header manipulation. Nicolas
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--7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Rob 'Feztaa' Park spake thus: :0 Whf: * X-Mailer: IncrediMail.* |formail -I X- I'm not sure if it makes much difference, but I ended up using this: :0 fhw: * ^X-Mailer: IncrediMail |formail -I X- and it works _exactly_ as I wanted. Thanks everybody :)=20 --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Martin was probably ripping them off. That's some family, isn't it? Incest, prostitution, fanaticism, software. -- Charles Willeford, Miami Blues --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8nmtdPTh2iSBKeccRApDDAJ9jRL8YN5JKgj8N63T5d3pPmpBRLACfbucr FnJqrx3gmpFft4EzWyWB3wQ= =3B/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- --7iMSBzlTiPOCCT2k--
