Re: [UX] - Design Exploration - Dockable Task Pane (Sidebar) - Tab User Interface Design

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Grignon
screen displays ;-) Juergen On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I've been exploring design alternatives for adding navigation tabs to the docked task pane. See: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki

Re: [UX] - Design Exploration - Dockable Task Pane (Sidebar) - Tab User Interface Design

2012-11-02 Thread Kevin Grignon
uses less real estate, is cleaner and reinforces the feedback paradigm. Flat is also easier to implement, because we don't have to draw the bevels. Somethings to consider. Great conversation, keep sharing. Regards, Kevin On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote

Re: Have uploaded five nice presentation template

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Xin Li lxnice...@gmail.com wrote: Andre, thanks for your feedback. Yes, agreed. The current templates in AOO looks a little out of date. It is the time that we explore more new templates to make the templates nice and good for use.

Re: AOO.Next IBM Priorities

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comment inline On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the note, however knowing IBM I had

Re: Have uploaded five nice presentation template

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
. Look at what MS Office 2013 does. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG01 - see comments inline On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Xin Li lxnice...@gmail.com wrote: Andre, thanks for your feedback. Yes, agreed. The current templates in AOO looks

Re: [UX] - Design Exploration - Dockable Task Pane (Sidebar) - Tab User Interface Design

2012-11-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I've been exploring design alternatives for adding navigation tabs to the docked task pane. See: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Docked_Task_Pane_Container_

Re: The Impossible Question

2012-10-31 Thread Kevin Grignon
Great discussion on an important topic. If I may, I'd like to add a ux perspective. Support and help systems are very important and necessary, however, my goal is to mitigate the need to such assets at the tool level. For example, rather than put energey into updating the install documents, we

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2012 10:19, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct 27, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 26/10/2012 Ian Lynch wrote: I arranged one

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 03 - see comments inline On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2012 10:19, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct

Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community

2012-10-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Wednesday, October 31, 2012, imacat wrote: On 2012/10/31 01:59, Rob Weir said: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:41 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.twjavascript:; wrote: On 2012/10/29 23:26, Rob Weir said: Then there is the secondary question of network effect and value of the network.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Initiate a Contest for Branding of 4.0

2012-10-29 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct 27, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 26/10/2012 Ian Lynch wrote: I arranged one for the OOo schools mascot ... The winner was clear-cut. A 16 year old Italian boy who aspired to be a graphic designer. Here he is (by chance,

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG03 - see comments inline On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 10/23/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG04 - see comments inline. On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 10/24/12, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Graham Lauder wrote

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG05 - see comments inline On Oct 24, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 10/24/12, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG03 - see comments inline On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On 10/23/12, Andrea Pescetti pesce

Re: Table of Contents Usability?

2012-10-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
with the interface of the Table of Contents generation. Perhaps Kevin Grignon might care to note this as an area worthy of improvement. http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=56908 A further note on this in http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=106t=56976p=250998

Re: [PROPOSAL] difficulty field for Bugzilla

2012-10-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Thursday, October 25, 2012, Donald Whytock wrote: Apache Camel uses an Estimated Complexity custom field in the Apache Issues Tracker. Current values in it are Any, Unknown, Novice, Moderate, Advanced, Guru and Needs James Gosling. Had to look him up:

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Thursday, October 25, 2012, RGB ES wrote: 2012/10/24 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/23/12, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Exactly. And this means we cannot use Alexandro's SVG since it is not a 100% reproduction of the bitmap by Michael

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-23 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Graham Lauder wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgjavascript:; wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk wrote: hmmm...well, OK. I think I remember something like this now. Should we use

Another graphic needs updating, formerly Re: Another logo needs updating: Get it here!

2012-10-22 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Monday, October 22, 2012, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 21/10/2012 21:18, RGB ES a écrit : CC to Hagar, because he proposed the download logo used on the forums:

Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...

2012-10-22 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Friday, October 19, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/17/2012 10:35 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - see comments online On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/16/2012 03:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-22 Thread Kevin Grignon
Let's move this insight into the wikis and document. Moving forward, we can prepare a visual identity style guide. On Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On 10/22/12, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On 10/22/2012 03:42 PM, RGB ES wrote: 2012/10/23

Re: Need new logo for openoffice.apache.org

2012-10-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct 21, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: [snip] But speaking for myself, I'd really like to see a comprehensive proposal, since one criticism of our current state is that we lack a comprehensive approach. Especially for those

Re: [UX]: potential new default color for application background

2012-10-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Oct 19, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/12/2012 05:29 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 09:23:28AM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: That said, AOO look really horrible in dark themes, but that's

Re: OpenOffice SVG vector graphics

2012-10-17 Thread Kevin Grignon
Let's try some design explorations using open source fonts. I have some comps I will share. Kevin On Oct 18, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: There hasn't been any reply to this, I wonder if this means we should think about a new font type with a functional source.

Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...

2012-10-17 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments online On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/16/2012 03:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/16/2012 02:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:29 PM,

Re: AOO UX - Getting involved

2012-10-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - See comments inline. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Althought it might not be current, you should checkout the UX wiki pages to get a sense of what was being discussed and the areas these project was taking.

Re: Outreach techniques -- what works

2012-10-11 Thread Kevin Grignon
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2012 um 19:03 schrieb Rob Weir: Some quick observations based on recent experience and metrics. I think this is important when we consider ways of reaching out for volunteers. Facts:

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-10-10 Thread Kevin Grignon
. You you have the info in a spreadsheet? Kevin - Simon 2012/10/2 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: On the subject of snapshots, we should be mindful to also perform other period snapshots: - Facebook

Re: Helping open office

2012-10-09 Thread Kevin Grignon
This is great. We could use some help with info graphics for use on the website, in the tools, and part of documentation. I'll gather more specific info and share shortly. Regards, Kevin On Oct 10, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Bianca Kosir bianca.m.ko...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, Apologies for

Re: [UX] OpenOffice iconset consistency

2012-10-04 Thread Kevin Grignon
, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Indeed, we could refresh the icons. Symphony donation includes a set of very professional graphics we should consider reusing. I am sorry, I never suggest to change the icons, I asked for the applications to adopt

Re: [WWW] Do we need a new site logo (for graduation) -- call for volunteers

2012-10-04 Thread Kevin Grignon
:46 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: I agree, an updated visual identity would be a great way to refresh our application visuals and appear more contemporary. Website branding should align with this broader brand direction. Updating the logo should be part if a broader

Re: [VOTE][PMC] PMC Chair

2012-10-04 Thread Kevin Grignon
[X] Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) [ ] Drew Jensen (atjensen) On Oct 5, 2012, at 8:18 AM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: [ ] Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) [ ] Drew Jensen (atjensen)

Re: [WWW] Do we need a new site logo (for graduation) -- call for volunteers

2012-10-03 Thread Kevin Grignon
I agree, an updated visual identity would be a great way to refresh our application visuals and appear more contemporary. Website branding should align with this broader brand direction. Updating the logo should be part if a broader branding initiative which includes creative new artwork for

Re: Which Sea Gull is Our Logo?

2012-10-03 Thread Kevin Grignon
Check out the marketing pages for a colour palette with exact values. On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:43 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Ah ha... Thanks. I was working on wrong the sea gull in the past 5 months. ^^: Which blue should I use? The one with lighter blue (vectorized),

Re: [UX] OpenOffice iconset consistency

2012-10-03 Thread Kevin Grignon
Indeed, we could refresh the icons. Symphony donation includes a set of very professional graphics we should consider reusing. On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:24 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Have a question regarding on the integration of iconset with OpenOffice. At the moment I have

Re: [DISCUSS]: AOO 3.4.1 reflection and lessons learned

2012-10-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 28/09/2012 Kevin Grignon wrote: I really like to identify opportunities for improvement, capture them in a some-day-maybe list (a.k.a. opportunity backlog). ... I'd like to be able

Re: [UX] New words for toolboxes in customize dialog

2012-10-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
Regina, Great eye. Subtle but important. From the current UI, it appears that the collection of shapes is called a toolbar according to the instructional text in the customize dialog. Back in the editor, other toolbars can be created by dragging a drop down menu off the drawing toolbar. Other

Re: [Call for review] improvements for linear/axial gradients #120604 and #120957

2012-10-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
Any impact on the UI here? On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.comwrote: Hi Regina, On 26.09.2012 17:34, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Regina, On 25.09.2012 20:50, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi all, I have attached patches to

Re: [Call for review] improvements for linear/axial gradients #120604 and #120957

2012-10-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
Good stuff. Thanks. I'm a big fan of gradient fills UI ;) On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.comwrote: Hi Kevin, On 01.10.2012 17:38, Kevin Grignon wrote: Any impact on the UI here? No, just corrections in painted representations :-) On Sat

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-10-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
Agreed, let's close the session and capture the results in the community wiki. Moving forward, I like the idea of running targeted sessions for specific topics. For example, our next topic could ask people to share their usage scenarios for social integration. No wrong answers, just a way to get

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-10-01 Thread Kevin Grignon
, but is a great way to engage the community and gather some data and insight. Regards, Kevin On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Agreed, let's close the session and capture the results in the community wiki. Moving forward, I like the idea of running

Re: [UX] [Call for review] Task Prioritization Survey Questions

2012-09-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
. Maybe Base just generates more questions and problems. But I think this provides some evidence that Base is not less active than Impress. Francis On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I've captured a series of questions

Re: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community

2012-09-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: 1) Create a new mailing list: ooo-extensi...@incubator.apache.org (or app...@incubator.apache.org if we prefer).

Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?

2012-09-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG 02 - See comments inline. On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2012 09:55 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - See comments inline On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro

Re: [DISCUSS]: AOO 3.4.1 reflection and lessons learned

2012-09-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, To me, Rob's quote is about achieving a flow state, where we can just do perform, without worrying about mechanics. Great goal. As a designer of software, I realize our work is never done. We will either add something new, enhance some existing stuff, fix some broken stuff, and in

Re: Some stats and observations on OpenOffice upgrades

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline On Sep 26, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/25/2012 12:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I've been looking at the upgrade numbers, the downloads that are triggered from upgrade notifications in the OpenOffice client. Although we are not

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
UX is willing to help as well. Regards, Kevin On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:33 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/9/25 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com On 9/25/12 3:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug

Re: [DISCUSS][WWW] maybe time for a home page facelift?

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Should we have a webdev list? We discussed using the tags [WWW] last year. In the past we did had dedicated list for each line

Re: [DISCUSS]: What should be part of AOO by default or what belongs more into a broader eco-system around AOO

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, Great topic. I too belong to the less is more school. Great in theory, harder to realize with a moving ship ;) Re: connectors - this is a great way to extend the core - perhaps we could create a stronger development eco-system for extensions - perhaps we could make the extension more

Re: [Extension]Task panel/ sidebar view

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hey All, Thanks for the links to existing effort. This is useful to see what has been considered already. As a reminder, AOO UX looked at the Symphony Task Pane and prepared a report that identified positive aspects of the Symphony task pane to emulate via merge/migration, and which aspects to

Re: [Extension]Task panel/ sidebar view

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
Questions: Is this feature formally in AOO roadmap? If so, what release is it in plan for? Do Bugilla epics or stories exist for this work? Regards, Kevin On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Hey All, Thanks for the links to existing effort

Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, Great collection of community roles. Without creating a full method library, which is really heavy lifting, might we make some associations between the roles with activities, work products and responsibilities. We could include a RACI (responsible, accountable, consulted, informed)

[UX] [Call for review] Task Prioritization Survey Questions

2012-09-25 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, I've captured a series of questions for inclusion in an upcoming AOO survey. The questions are intended to help us understand which features and capabilities are most frequently used in the editors. Insight from this survey will help us focus our attention on core task, and help

Re: Clipart library

2012-09-02 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG03 - see comments inline On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 August 2012 02:20, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG02 -see comments inline. On Friday, August 31, 2012 x-apple-data-detectors://45, Ian Lynch wrote: On 30 August 2012 09:57

Re: Clipart library

2012-08-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: I'm organising the Open clipart library into categories. We could use this then as a useful resource to complement AOO. KG01 - This adds a lot of value. Ideally we could aim to align the information

Re: Clipart library

2012-08-30 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 -see comments inline. On Friday, August 31, 2012 x-apple-data-detectors://45, Ian Lynch wrote: On 30 August 2012 09:57, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: KG01 - see comments inline. On Aug 30, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.comjavascript

Re: [UX] DISCUSS - Survey Tool Recommendation

2012-08-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - see comments inline On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: KG01 - see comments inline On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On 16/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: I've been

Re: [UX] Survey Tool

2012-08-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
. I've also addressed my social network access issue, so I can help promote the surveys, once active, via our social media channels. Regards, Kevin On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG02 - see comments inline On Aug 28, 2012, at 7:29 AM, Graham

Re: Social integration for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
the two separate wikis. Phil On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: KG01 - I feel that there is enough momentum here to start capturing some usage scenarios

Re: [Discuss] Triage of Brainstorming

2012-08-26 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 see comments inline. On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:39 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 15:58 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:49:02 -0700 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012

Re: [Call for UX comments] [Call for review]Bug 120236 - when decrease indent for bullet,the bullet will go out of page range

2012-08-23 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, I have commented on the UX design considerations for 120585 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120585 . Regards, Kevin On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Caught... I'll take a look. On Aug 21, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Shenfeng

Re: Social integration for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-22 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01- see comments inline On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 x-apple-data-detectors://48, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Per Rob's email about the Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0 I was perusing the

Re: Help us brainstorm ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0

2012-08-22 Thread Kevin Grignon
Agreed, Moderator is a great tool to rank our ideas. On Wednesday, August 22, 2012 x-apple-data-detectors://82, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: Back to the topic... :) The page looks great! I submitted 1 UI proposal and

Re: [Call for UX comments] [Call for review]Bug 120236 - when decrease indent for bullet,the bullet will go out of page range

2012-08-21 Thread Kevin Grignon
Caught... I'll take a look. On Aug 21, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: I changed the title to catch our UX designers' attention. - Simon 2012/8/20 chengjh chen...@apache.org This seems not an interoperability/fidelity issue. 1)Aoo provides negative

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote

2012-08-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
+1 - onward... On Aug 20, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves.

Re: [DISCUSS]: I would like to propose a new conversion mode parameter

2012-08-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:18 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/20/2012 04:54 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: OpenOffice is not only used as desktop application but also as hidden part of other software and often as a conversion engine in the backend.

Re: [UX] DISCUSS - Survey Tool Recommendation

2012-08-19 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline On Aug 18, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Graham Lauder y...@apache.org wrote: On 16/08/2012 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: I've been looking at various survey tools and would like to recommend that we deploy the open source survey tool

[UX] DISCUSS - Survey Tool Recommendation

2012-08-15 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, I've been looking at various survey tools and would like to recommend that we deploy the open source survey tool, *LimeSurvey.* LimeSurvey is a powerful, free and open source survey package appropriate for nonprofits looking for advanced survey logic and analysis features and who have

Re: suggestion for OO: Bullets and Numbering | Options

2012-08-14 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Philip Thomas p...@hear.org javascript:; wrote: It would be excellent if you added spacing above|below paragraph (like in Format | Paragraph | Indents Spacing) to the Format | Bullets and Numbering | Options menu. Yes, I

Re: T-Shirt for the Apache OpenOffice Project

2012-07-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Jul 28, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi at all At the old OOo project, we have had T-Shirts. There was existing many different versions of OOo shirts.

Re: Improving the Open Office Toolbars

2012-07-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - see additional comments inline. On Jul 28, 2012, at 9:29 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-07-28 at 14:53 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/7/28 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com: KG01 - see comments inline. On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Mike Buzzard mik

Re: Improving the Open Office Toolbars

2012-07-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Jul 27, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Mike Buzzard mik...@earth-focus.org.uk wrote: Hi I would really like it if you could make Open Office's Toolbars better: better, even than any toolbars, ribbons, etc! KG01 - Indeed. Over time, toolbars can begin to feel overloaded.

Re: Help Regarding UI Modification for OpenOffice

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Rajarshi Mukherjee rajmukherjee2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am working on a OpenOffice UI modification work. However all the UI handles I am getting are through UNO bridge. So I can access the UI, draw images, shapes, update cell.

Re: [RELEASE][3.5] Process thinking - defectfeature rules, iteration...

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
as the bucket from which we can pull work and create plans. - Simon 2012/7/20 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com KG01 - See comments inline. On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Wang Lei, The proposed items look very good! And you can create

Re: Should quickstarter be enabled or disabled by default?

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline. On Jul 21, 2012, at 5:40 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, shzh zhao aoo.zhaos...@gmail.com wrote: The best way is giving a user an option when installing the software, in this step,let user enable or disable it.

Re: [UX] Review of MS Office 2013 UI

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
] Review of MS Office 2013 UI On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: It appears that MS Office 2013 is starting to be reviewed. Check out the C|NET review and supporting screen shots: http://reviews.cnet.com/office-suites/the-new-microsoft-office

Re: development question of future feature

2012-07-24 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - See comments inline On Jul 20, 2012, at 6:37 PM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 7/16/2012 18:07, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - Hey all, I'm back from the unconnected world. Great topic. See comments inline. On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Yong Lin Ma mayo...@apache.org

Re: Does Symphony contribution include clipart libraries and templates?

2012-07-23 Thread Kevin Grignon
/ooo/symphony/trunk/main/extras/source/templates/. KG01 - Great stuff. Are we surfacing in the default clipart collection or must user browse to them? Regards, Zhangjf On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Does Symphony contribution include

Re: [UX]Why does AOO use semicolon and space as the default separators when open one csv?

2012-07-23 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Jul 23, 2012, at 5:50 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/23/12 10:38 AM, Joost Andrae wrote: Hi, Am 23.07.2012 09:00, schrieb Zhe Liu: Hi, I use Calc to open a csv. Text Import dialog pops up. Semicolon Space are checked by default

[QA]A guide for opening defect in Bugzilla

2012-07-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Thursday, July 19, 2012, Ji Yan wrote: Hi all, I wrote a guide for how to open defect in Bugzilla[1]. hope this will help user and QA on opening defect. Any comments? KG01 - This is great thanks for sharing. I have some feedback and a question. Re: bug

Re: development question of future feature

2012-07-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02- See comments inline. On Tuesday, July 17, 2012, Clarence GUO wrote: I think new UI means three aspects. One is about usability which make UI easier to use. Sidebar of Symphony is a good illustration. Symphony has another good improvement which drew less attentions, that is it

Re: [RELEASE][3.5] Process thinking - defectfeature rules, iteration...

2012-07-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Wang Lei, The proposed items look very good! And you can create issues and setting Issue Type as ENHANCEMENT or FEATURE in BZ if they did not exist, then fill the Task-ID in wiki. Thanks very

Does Symphony contribution include clipart libraries and templates?

2012-07-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
Does Symphony contribution include clipart libraries and templates? If so, great. We should include a plan item to merge our libraries. This is also low hanging fruit for next release. If not, we need to create some tasks to update our resources. Thoughts? Regards, Kevin

Re: [UI] ColorPicker - entering hex color code

2012-07-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline On Jul 20, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: [..] It depends on what we mean by expected. I suspect the typical user does not touch hexadecimal. Programmers who are not web developers probably expect this to be treated like a number,

Re: Crazy idea of the day: Guest Blog Posts

2012-07-20 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So far we've used our blog as a project blog, with an

Re: [QA AUTOMATION][Proposal]Suggest to group definition of UI Controls in UIMap.java.

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Grignon
with the presentation as well. Can you point me to any UI docs or refer another developer who is familiar with the UI presentation code? Regards, Shan Zhu 2012/7/19 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com javascript:; Shan Zhu, Could you point me to any documentation, or share any thoughts

Re: [Marketing][UX] Who wants to do a Content Experiment?

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Paolo Pozzan pa...@z2z.it wrote: Il 08/06/2012 15:54, Rob Weir ha scritto: A Content Experiment is when we create several version of the same web page and test

Re: [UI] ColorPicker - entering hex color code

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Jul 19, 2012, at 11:33 PM, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: On 19.07.2012 16:43, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi there, entering a color in the new color, with its hex code, has a rather strange result. Try - menu Tools -Options... - on the Options

Re: [CODE][UX] Bugs 25945 Show/Hide Scroll Bar Tips on Writer

2012-07-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:35 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Ricardo, On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:35:05PM +0200, RGB ES wrote: Thanks, Ariel for moving on this issue. I have a question, though: The fix also prevents other help tips to

Re: [CODE][UX] Bugs 25945 Show/Hide Scroll Bar Tips on Writer

2012-07-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - See comments inline. On Wednesday, July 18, 2012, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Kevin, On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:52:29PM +0800, Kevin Grignon wrote: KG01 - Having the system provide feedback to orient the user and support way finding in the context of a scroll gesture

Re: [QA AUTOMATION][Proposal]Suggest to group definition of UI Controls in UIMap.java.

2012-07-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
Shan Zhu, Could you point me to any documentation, or share any thoughts on the available styling options for our UI presentation (workspace and forms). I'm scoping a UI refresh and want to get a sense of what tailoring or customization is possible. Thoughts? Regards, Kevin On Monday, July

Re: [Draft] The Public Service Mission of OpenOffice

2012-07-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Wednesday, July 18, 2012, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:47 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 7/17/12 6:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I'd like to see if we can agree on a statement along these lines. I think it is important that

Re: [Review|Discussion]For Ideas and Comments on the Vision of Writer's Track Changes Improvement

2012-07-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG 01 - Excuse top post. Proposal looks great. What is the impact/risk on the UI? How might we improve the user experience? Perhaps a task pane with threaded comments and available actions? On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.07.2012 09:14, chengjh wrote:

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

2012-07-18 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Saturday, June 30, 2012, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: snip KG01 - Great stuff Rob. These simple analytics are really interesting. *Would you be open to harvesting and sharing

Re: development question of future feature

2012-07-16 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - Hey all, I'm back from the unconnected world. Great topic. See comments inline. On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Yong Lin Ma mayo...@apache.org wrote: Just for the property sidebar. Kevin have done some analysis about how it can be integrated into AOO. KG01 - Indeed, Symphony sidebar

Re: Labels

2012-07-06 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - see comments inline On Friday, July 6, 2012, Sybil Snyders wrote: Good day ** ** Hope you are well. ** ** We would like to get in contact with you to see how we can work together on the label printing functionality of your software. KG01 - Thanks for your question

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

2012-06-28 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-cloud.png

Re: [UX][Volunteers Needed] - Harvesting Social Data

2012-06-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG02 - See comments inline. On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Graham Lauder g.a.lau...@gmail.com wrote: Added one example (and fixed a typo on the table headings) to see how it works. KG01 - Good stuff. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. I think description

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenOffice Conference 2012

2012-06-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
KG01 - See comments inline On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: Don, I've added some content to the planning doc on the cwiki. Question: is the conference focused

Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO

2012-06-27 Thread Kevin Grignon
Hello All, Sorry for top post. Where are we at? Have we summarized the discussion? Have all expressed their views? How might we crystallized our position and move forward? Regards, Kevin On Thursday, June 28, 2012, Rob Weir wrote: Top posting as a comment on the entire post, and what it

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