Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] libvirt boot parameters

2014-09-23 Thread Angelo Matarazzo
Hi, I think that this variable is useful for me cfg.IntOpt("reboot_timeout", default=0, help="Automatically hard reboot an instance if it has been " "stuck in a rebooting state longer than N seconds. " "Set to 0 to disable."), cfg.Int

Re: [openstack-dev] Could we please use 1.4.1 for oslo.messaging *now*? (was: Oslo final releases ready)

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are > available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global > requirements list to update the baseline in the applications. In all cases, > the final release is a seco

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Adam Young wrote: > OpenStack owes you more than most people realize. +1 Dolph did a great job of keeping the fundamental piece that is Keystone safe from a release management perspective, by consistently hitting all the deadlines, giving time for other projects to safely build on it. > Don't yo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:53:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > Hi. > > I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs > for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs > instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation > for when we said

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Gordon Sim
On 09/22/2014 05:58 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: As I understand it, pools don't help scaling a given queue since all the messages for that queue must be in the same pool. At present traffic through different Zaqar queues are essentially entirely orthogonal streams

[openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions: django-openstack-auth

2014-09-23 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Hi, I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for django-openstack-auth. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123101/ django-openstack-auth is developped along with Horizon and the recent release 1.1.7 of django-openstack-auth has good fixes which affect Juno Horizon, especially from the f

[openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Folks, I'd like to continue serving as Telemetry PTL for a second cycle. When I took on the role for Juno, I saw some challenges facing the project that would take multi-cycle efforts to resolve, so I'd like to have the opportunity to see that move closer to completion. Over Juno, our focus as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:29:26 + Kenichi Oomichi wrote: > > Before discussing how to implement, I'd like to consider what we > should implement. IIUC, the purpose of v3 API is to make consistent > API with the backwards incompatible changes. Through huge discussion > in Juno cycle, we knew that

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Devananda van der Veen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen >> wrote: >> >>> One of the primary effects of integration, as far as the release >>> process is concerned, is being allowed to co-gate with other >>> inte

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Robert Collins wrote: > On 19 September 2014 22:29, Thierry Carrez wrote: > ... >> current Heat team is not really interested in maintaining them. What's >> the point of being under the same program then ? And TripleO is not the >> only way to deploy OpenStack, but its mere existence (and name) >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-23 Thread Steven Hardy
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 06:54:27PM -0400, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 09/09/14 05:52, Steven Hardy wrote: > >Hi Sahdev, > > > >On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 11:52:30AM -0400, Sahdev P Zala wrote: > >>Hello guys, > >> > >>As you know, the heat-translator project was started early this year > >> with

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] No one replying on tempest issue?Please share your experience

2014-09-23 Thread Nikesh Kumar Mahalka
Hi, I am able to do all volume operations through dashboard and cli commands. But when i am running tempest tests,some tests are getting failed. For contributing cinder volume driver for my client in cinder,do all tempest tests should passed? Ex: 1) ./run_tempest.sh tempest.api.volume.test_volumes

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 05:13 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Joe Gordon's message of 2014-09-22 19:04:03 -0700: [snip] >> >> To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is >> comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging into the two of them, zaqar >> barely looks like SQS. Zaqar

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions: django-openstack-auth

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Akihiro Motoki wrote: > I would like to request dependency freeze exceptions for > django-openstack-auth. > https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123101/ This arguably counts as an internal library. We are freezing those now (well, last Friday was the deadline), so +1 on this one. -- Thierry Carrez

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] No one replying on tempest issue?Please share your experience

2014-09-23 Thread Denis Makogon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Nikesh Kumar Mahalka < nikeshmaha...@vedams.com> wrote: > Hi, > I am able to do all volume operations through dashboard and cli commands. > But when i am running tempest tests,some tests are getting failed. > For contributing cinder volume driver for my client in

[openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar's path cleared out

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
Greetings, I recently published a post[0] about Zaqar's path going forward with the hope to clarify a bit the project's vision and guarantees as a service - I didn't mention API features. Since we've been talking about this lately, I thought to share the post here to ease the discussion and to ki

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:53:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > Hi. > > I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs > for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs > instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation > for when we said

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Request for python-heatclient project to adopt heat-translator

2014-09-23 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Excerpts from Steven Hardy's message on 23/09/2014 11:37:42: > > > > On the other hand, there is a big downside to having it (only) in Heat also > > - you're dependent on the operator deciding to provide it. > > > > >- You prempt the decision about integration with any higher levelservices, > > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Michael Still
I am ok with a staged approach, although I do think its something we should start in Kilo. That said though, we emit a warning if the installation doesn't have a working libguestfs in juno. Michael On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 09:53:36AM +1

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Roman Bogorodskiy
Michael Still wrote: > Hi. > > I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs > for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs > instead. However, I can't immediately find any written documentation > for when we said we'd do that thing. > > Additionally,

Re: [openstack-dev] [requirements][horizon] Dependency freeze exceptions: django-openstack-auth

2014-09-23 Thread Akihiro Motoki
Sorry for the delay. django-openstack-auth 1.1.7 was released last Friday and it seems David forgot to update global requirements. Now let me clarify how to handle this kind of bugs which requires a fix in a library after the release. What is the appropriate way to fix a bug depending on libraries

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:47:50 -0500 Anne Gentle wrote: > > > > (1) Input/Output attribute names > > (1.1) These names should be snake_case. > > eg: imageRef -> image_ref, flavorRef -> flavor_ref, hostId -> > > host_id (1.2) These names should contain extension names if they > > are provided in ca

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:27:47 -0500 Brant Knudson wrote: > > > > > Did you consider JSON Home[1] for this? For Juno we've got JSON Home > support in Keystone for Identity v3 (Zaqar was using it already). We > weren't planning to use it for microversioning since we weren't > planning on doing micro

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] REST API style guide (Re: [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation)

2014-09-23 Thread Christopher Yeoh
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:00:26 +0900 "Ken'ichi Ohmichi" wrote: \> > So how about just using HTTP 200(OK) only for status codes? > That would give up providing accurate internal status to clients but > backwards backwards incompatibilities never happen. > No I think that we should where possible re

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Deprecating localfs?

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 02:27:52PM +0400, Roman Bogorodskiy wrote: > Michael Still wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > I know we've been talking about deprecating nova.virt.disk.vfs.localfs > > for a long time, in favour of wanting people to use libguestfs > > instead. However, I can't immediately find an

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread stuart . mclaren
Hi Mark, Many thanks for your leadership, and keeping glance so enjoyable to work on over the last few cycles. -Stuart From: Mark Washenberger To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" G

[openstack-dev] [Designate] DNS Services PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Mac Innes, Kiall
Hi all, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the DNS Services Program PTL position. I've been involved in Designate since day one, as the both original author and as pseudo-PTL pre-incubation. Designate and the DNS Services program have come a long way since the project was first introduced

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review > the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See > attached PDF for a picture of the proposal. > > The hard date the proposal is built around

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:42:30AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review > > the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See > > attached PDF for a

Re: [openstack-dev] Could we please use 1.4.1 for oslo.messaging *now*? (was: Oslo final releases ready)

2014-09-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Zigo, Ouch! Can you please open a bug in oslo.messaging, i'll mark it critical thanks, dims On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are >> available on PyPI. I’m

Re: [openstack-dev] Oslo messaging vs zaqar

2014-09-23 Thread Geoff O'Callaghan
On 23/09/2014 12:58 PM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: > > Excerpts from Geoff O'Callaghan's message of 2014-09-22 17:30:47 -0700: > > On 23/09/2014 1:59 AM, "Clint Byrum" wrote: > > > > > > Geoff, do you expect all of our users to write all of their messaging > > > code in Python? > > > > > > oslo.messagi

[openstack-dev] [Neutron]Dynamically load service provider

2014-09-23 Thread Germy Lure
Hi stackers, I have an idea about service provider framework. Anyone interested in this topic can give me some suggestions. My idea is that providers report their services capability dynamically not configured in neutron.conf. See details by the link below. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Alex Xu
On 2014年09月23日 17:12, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 09:29:26 + Kenichi Oomichi wrote: Before discussing how to implement, I'd like to consider what we should implement. IIUC, the purpose of v3 API is to make consistent API with the backwards incompatible changes. Through huge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 10:58 AM, Gordon Sim wrote: > On 09/22/2014 05:58 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: >> On 22/09/14 10:11, Gordon Sim wrote: >>> As I understand it, pools don't help scaling a given queue since all the >>> messages for that queue must be in the same pool. At present traffic >>> through different

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - what integration with Keystone is allowed?

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 22 September 2014 21:49, Mark McClain wrote: > Ideally, I think something that provides proper sync support should exist in > Keystone or a Keystone related project vs multiple implementations in > Neutron, Cinder or any other multi-tenant service that wants to provide more > human friendly na

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 12:58 AM, Mike Perez wrote: > Hello all, > > My name is Mike Perez, and I would like to be your next PTL for the OpenStack > block storage project Cinder. > > I've been involved with the OpenStack community since October 2010. I'm > a senior developer for Datera, which cont

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ceilometer] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 05:10 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: > > Folks, > > I'd like to continue serving as Telemetry PTL for a second cycle. > > When I took on the role for Juno, I saw some challenges facing the > project that would take multi-cycle efforts to resolve, so I'd like to > have the opportu

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-23 Thread Anant Patil
On 23-Sep-14 09:42, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-22 20:15:43 -0700: >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Anant Patil wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> One of the steps in the direction of convergence is to enable Heat >>> engine to handle concurrent stack operations

Re: [openstack-dev] [Designate] DNS Services PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 07:11 AM, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: > Hi all, > > > I'd like to announce my candidacy for the DNS Services Program PTL position. > > > I've been involved in Designate since day one, as the both original author > and as pseudo-PTL pre-incubation. Designate and the DNS Servi

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-23 12:53:42 +0100 (+0100), Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > I didn't really notice anyone stop working in the last off-week we > had. Changes kept being submitted at normal rate, people kept talking > on IRC, etc, etc. An off-week is a nice idea in theory but it didn't > seem to have much eff

Re: [openstack-dev] [Designate] DNS Services PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/23/2014 05:11 AM, Mac Innes, Kiall wrote: Hi all, I'd like to announce my candidacy for the DNS Services Program PTL position. I’ve been involved in Designate since day one, as the both original author and as pseudo-PTL pre-incubation. Designate and the DNS Services program have come

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Brian Rosmaita
I am really sorry to see you step down, but congratulations! cheers, brian From: Mark Washenberger [mark.washenber...@markwash.net] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 12:22 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

[openstack-dev] [cinder] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
This is an announcement of my standing for PTL of the Cinder project. I've been an active member of the Cinder core team from day one, and I've had the pleasure of working closely with John Griffith, the incumbent PTL, and a large and varied collection of contributors for that period. My job is r

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 10:19 AM, Duncan Thomas wrote: > This is an announcement of my standing for PTL of the Cinder project. > > I've been an active member of the Cinder core team from day one, and > I've had the pleasure of working closely with John Griffith, the > incumbent PTL, and a large and

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Lance Bragstad
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Adam Young wrote: > > OpenStack owes you more than most people realize. > > +1 > > Dolph did a great job of keeping the fundamental piece that is Keystone > safe from a release management perspective, by consistently hitting all > the deadl

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sean Dague wrote: > On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review >> the proposed Kilo release cycle schedule on the mailing-list. See >> attached PDF for a picture of the proposal. >> >> The hard date the

[openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread John Griffith
Hey Everyone, I've been kinda mixed on this one, but I think it's a good time for me to not run for Cinder PTL. I've been filling the role since we started the idea back at the Folsom Summit, and it's been an absolute pleasure and honor for me. I don't plan on going anywhere and will still be in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/09/14 08:58, Flavio Percoco wrote: I believe the guarantee is still useful and it currently does not represent an issue for the service nor the user. 2 things could happen to FIFO in the future: 1. It's made optional and we allow users to opt-in in a per flavor basis. (I personally don't l

Re: [openstack-dev] Could we please use 1.4.1 for oslo.messaging *now*? (was: Oslo final releases ready)

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 09/18/2014 10:04 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> All of the final releases for the Oslo libraries for the Juno cycle are >> available on PyPI. I’m working on a couple of patches to the global >> requirements list to update the baseline in the

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Devananda van der Veen wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen >>> wrote: >>> One of the primary effects of integration, as far as the release proces

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Instead of moving the Kilo cycle a week later (April 23 -> April 30), would it be possible to move the "L" design summit a week ahead (May 18-22 -> May 11-15). This would extend the L-cycle a week. Additionally, this would also help with return travel as the following Monday is Memorial Day; I'd

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen >> wrote: >> >>> One of the primary effects of integration, as far as the release >>> process is concerned, is being

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2014-09-23 15:26:20 + (+), Amir Sadoughi wrote: > Instead of moving the Kilo cycle a week later (April 23 -> April > 30), would it be possible to move the "L" design summit a week > ahead (May 18-22 -> May 11-15). This would extend the L-cycle a > week. Additionally, this would also help

[openstack-dev] [Murano] weekly meeting cancelled

2014-09-23 Thread Ruslan Kamaldinov
Since there are no major updates and some folks will not be able to join Murano weekly meeting, we've decided to skip it for today. Short update: 1. The only remaining major item left for juno is documentation and everyone is pretty aware about items we need to have in our docs: https://etherpad.o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/22/2014 04:27 PM, Brant Knudson wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Alex Xu mailto:x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com>> wrote: Close to Kilo, it is time to think about what's next for nova API. In Kilo, we will continue develop the important feature micro-version. In previous v2

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Jay Pipes
On 09/22/2014 05:29 AM, Kenichi Oomichi wrote: -Original Message- From: Alex Xu [mailto:x...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 3:40 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation Close to Kilo, it i

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Yee, Guang
++ Amen, brother! From: Lance Bragstad [mailto:lbrags...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:52 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Thierry Carrez wrot

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 22/09/14 22:04, Joe Gordon wrote: To me this is less about valid or invalid choices. The Zaqar team is comparing Zaqar to SQS, but after digging into the two of them, zaqar barely looks like SQS. Zaqar doesn't guarantee what IMHO is the most important parts of SQS: the message will be delivere

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 22 September 2014 23:14, Robert Collins wrote: > I am not at all sure we've prevented other flowers blooming - > and I hate the idea that we have done that. I've certainly sat around at discussions which shut down hard with somebody making the statement that 'that is TripleO's field and they d

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Duncan Thomas
On 23 September 2014 15:57, John Griffith wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I've been kinda mixed on this one, but I think it's a good time for me to > not run for Cinder PTL. I've been filling the role since we started the > idea back at the Folsom Summit, and it's been an absolute pleasure and honor >

Re: [openstack-dev] [RFC] Kilo release cycle schedule proposal

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 07:42:30AM -0400, Sean Dague wrote: >> On 09/23/2014 02:56 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> Rather than waste a design summit session about it, I propose we review >>> the proposed Kilo release cy

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Stepping down as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Henry Nash
Agree with all the comments made - Dolph, you really did a great job as PTL - keeping the balanced view is a crucial part of the role. Keystone is the better for it. Henry On 23 Sep 2014, at 17:08, Yee, Guang wrote: > ++ Amen, brother! > > From: Lance Bragstad [mailto:lbrags...@gmail.com]

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Devananda van der Veen > wrote: > >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen >>> wrote: >>> One of the primary effects of integ

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Doug Hellmann wrote: > On Sep 23, 2014, at 5:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> Devananda van der Veen wrote: >>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Doug Hellmann >>> wrote: On Sep 22, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: > One of the primary effects of integration,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone][Oslo] Federation and Policy

2014-09-23 Thread David Chadwick
Hi Doug thanks. We will test this next week regards David On 19/09/2014 18:43, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2014, at 6:56 AM, David Chadwick wrote: > >> >> >> On 18/09/2014 22:14, Doug Hellmann wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:34 PM, David Chadwick >>> wrote: >>> O

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of people who > we would like to ensure are involved in OpenStack governance, then how do we > make that decision? From a practical standpoint, how do we make a list of > eligibl

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Devananda van der Veen wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: >> One is a technical discussion that has nothing at all to do with governance. >> The other is entirely about governance. >> >> If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of people who >> w

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
Keystone team has released 0.11.1 of python-keystoneclient. Due to some delays getting things through the gate this took a few extra days. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-keystoneclient/0.11.1 —Morgan  — Morgan Fainberg -Original Message- From: John Dickinson Reply: OpenStack De

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Dan Prince
On Fri, 2014-09-19 at 09:13 -0400, Sean Dague wrote: > I've spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the Nova bug tracker > to try to turn it into something that doesn't cause people to run away > screaming. I don't remember exactly where we started at open bug count 2 > weeks ago (it was north

[openstack-dev] [keystone] python-keystoneclient release 0.11.1

2014-09-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
The Keystone team has released python-keystoneclient 0.11.1 [1]. This version is meant to be the release coinciding with the Juno release of OpenStack. The release includes two fixes [2] on top of the 0.11.0 [3] version. Cheers, Morgan Fainberg [1] https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-keystonec

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 12:09 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: > I'd like to say finally that I think there should be an OpenStack API > working group whose job it is to both pull together a set of OpenStack > API practices as well as evaluate new REST APIs proposed in the > OpenStack ecosystem to provide

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Mark McClain
On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > Cross interaction with Neutron and Cinder remains racey. We are pretty > optimistic on when resources will be available. Even the event interface > with Neutron hasn't fully addressed this. I think a really great Design > Summit session would be N

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Laski
On 09/23/2014 01:15 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 12:09 -0400, Jay Pipes wrote: I'd like to say finally that I think there should be an OpenStack API working group whose job it is to both pull together a set of OpenStack API practices as well as evaluate new REST APIs propo

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Louis Taylor
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: > I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current > API needs to be replaced. I would very much like to see a unified API > project that could be responsible for managing requests to "boot an instance > with

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Mike Perez
On 08:57 Tue 23 Sep , John Griffith wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I've been kinda mixed on this one, but I think it's a good time for me to > not run for Cinder PTL. I've been filling the role since we started the > idea back at the Folsom Summit, and it's been an absolute pleasure and > honor f

[openstack-dev] [oslo] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
I am running for PTL for Oslo for the Kilo release cycle. I have served 2 terms now, and my tl;dr platform for Kilo is, “More of the same!” I have already posted the retrospective the team put together for Juno [1], so I won’t go over those items in depth here. From my perspective, the team is

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Morgan Fainberg
-Original Message- From: John Griffith Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Date: September 23, 2014 at 08:02:23 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org) > Subject:  [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Kevin L. Mitchell
On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:39 +0100, Louis Taylor wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: > > I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current > > API needs to be replaced. I would very much like to see a unified API > > project that could be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Sean Dague
On 09/23/2014 02:10 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: > On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:39 +0100, Louis Taylor wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: >>> I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current >>> API needs to be replaced. I would very much

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] PTL Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Tristan Cacqueray
confirmed On 23/09/14 01:54 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > I am running for PTL for Oslo for the Kilo release cycle. > > I have served 2 terms now, and my tl;dr platform for Kilo is, “More of the > same!” > > I have already posted the retrospective the team put together for Juno [1], > so I won’t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/09/14 09:44, Anant Patil wrote: On 23-Sep-14 09:42, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Angus Salkeld's message of 2014-09-22 20:15:43 -0700: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:09 AM, Anant Patil wrote: Hi, One of the steps in the direction of convergence is to enable Heat engine to handle concur

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Chris Friesen
On 09/23/2014 12:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: On 09/23/2014 02:10 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote: On Tue, 2014-09-23 at 18:39 +0100, Louis Taylor wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 01:32:50PM -0400, Andrew Laski wrote: I've been thinking along very similar lines, but I don't think each current API needs

[openstack-dev] [vmware] Questions about vmware-driver-ova-support blueprint

2014-09-23 Thread Tesshu M Flower
Hi, I suppose this question is directed at the VMware-API team, Gary, Tracy, Arnaud and Vui in particular? I work at IBM in the Software group working with Dims (Davanum Srinivas) and Radu Mateescu and am particularly interested in ova support with VMware. I've looked at the blueprint ( https:

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2014, at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > > If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of people > who we would like to ensure are involved in OpenStack governance, then how > do we make that decision?

Re: [openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

2014-09-23 Thread Allison Randal
On 09/23/2014 02:18 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > The main goal of incubation, as we did it in the past cycles, is a > learning period where the new project aligns enough with the existing > ones so that it integrates with them (Horizon shows Sahara dashboard) > and won't break them around release ti

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Convergence: Backing up template instead of stack

2014-09-23 Thread Joshua Harlow
I believe heat has its own dependency graph implementation but if that was switched to networkx[1] that library has a bunch of nice read/write capabilities. See: https://github.com/networkx/networkx/tree/master/networkx/readwrite And one made for sqlalchemy @ https://pypi.python.org/pypi/graph-

Re: [openstack-dev] pycharm license?

2014-09-23 Thread Andrew Melton
Hi Devs, I have the new license, but it has some new restrictions on it's use. I am still waiting on some clarification, but I do know some situations in which I can distribute the license. I cannot distribute the license to any commercial developers. This means if as part of your job, you are

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] Not seeking another term as PTL

2014-09-23 Thread Walter A. Boring IV
John, Thanks for the term as PTL since Cinder got it's start. Without your encouragement when Kurt and I started working on Cinder back during Grizzly. We wouldn't have been successful, and might not even be working on the project to this day. I can't say enough about how helpful you hav

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Kevin L. Mitchell < kevin.mitch...@rackspace.com> wrote: > One of the things that's been bothering me about OpenStack for a while > now is the fact that we have all these different APIs on different > endpoints. What I've been wondering about is if we should crea

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Flavio wrote> "The reasoning, as explained in an other email, is that from a use-case perspective, strict ordering won't hurt you if you don't need it whereas having to implement it in the client side because the service doesn't provide it can be a PITA." The reasoning is flawed though. If perform

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > So today we have a proxy API in Nova which does some of this. I guess > the question is is it better to do this in Nova in the future or divorce > it from there. > A stand-alone, production-quality configurable proxy would be useful to take ov

Re: [openstack-dev] WARNING: Oslo team is cleaning up the incubator

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > The Oslo team is starting to remove deprecated code from the incubator for > libraries that graduated this cycle, in preparation for the work we will be > doing in Kilo. > > Any fixes for those modules needed before the final releases for th

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Mark McClain wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > >> Cross interaction with Neutron and Cinder remains racey. We are pretty >> optimistic on when resources will be available. Even the event interface >> with Neutron hasn't fully addressed th

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Some ideas for micro-version implementation

2014-09-23 Thread Dean Troyer
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Chris Friesen > > Why not do something like what is done for the userspace/kernel syscall > API? Userspace code tries to use the most recent one it knows about, if > that comes back as "not a valid syscall" then it tries the next older > version. As long as trying

Re: [openstack-dev] [release] client release deadline - Sept 18th

2014-09-23 Thread Eoghan Glynn
The ceilometer team released python-ceilometerclient vesion 1.0.11 yesterday: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-ceilometerclient/1.0.11 Cheers, Eoghan > Keystone team has released 0.11.1 of python-keystoneclient. Due to some > delays getting things through the gate this took a few extra day

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] 2 weeks in the bug tracker

2014-09-23 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Jay S. Bryant wrote: > > On 09/21/2014 07:37 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >> >> When I'm essentially +2 on a change but for a small issue like typos in >> the commit message, the need for a note in the code or a test (or change to >> a test), I've been doing those mys

Re: [openstack-dev] [Zaqar] Zaqar and SQS Properties of Distributed Queues

2014-09-23 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 09/23/2014 09:29 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > Flavio wrote> "The reasoning, as explained in an other > email, is that from a use-case perspective, strict ordering won't hurt > you if you don't need it whereas having to implement it in the client > side because the service doesn't provide it can be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] PTL Non-Candidacy

2014-09-23 Thread Iccha Sethi
+1 You will be missed Mark. Thank you for your leadership and mentorship. Iccha On 9/23/14, 5:59 AM, "stuart.mcla...@hp.com" wrote: >Hi Mark, > >Many thanks for your leadership, and keeping glance so enjoyable to work >on over the last few cycles. > >-Stuart > >>From: Mark Washenberger >>To: O

[openstack-dev] [sahara] Juno release images

2014-09-23 Thread Sergey Reshetnyak
Hi sahara folks, I've prepared all new images for Sahara (using diskimage-builder) for Juno release. Vanilla plugin: http://sahara-files.mirantis.com/sahara-juno-vanilla-1.2.1-centos-6.5.qcow2 http://sahara-files.mirantis.com/sahara-juno-vanilla-1.2.1-ubuntu-14.04.qcow2 http://sahara-files.mirant

Re: [openstack-dev] [Infra] Meeting Tuesday September 23rd at 19:00 UTC

2014-09-23 Thread Elizabeth K. Joseph
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The OpenStack Infrastructure (Infra) team is hosting our weekly > meeting on Tuesday September 23rd, at 19:00 UTC in #openstack-meeting Meeting minutes and log: Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra

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