Jose,
No description is given, just a list of potential genera names.
icones
Does anyone of you have access to Bill.Pac. Orch. Soci. Hawaii 14: 85
(1957). If so could you help me accessing a scan.
I am interested in the description given by Moir to Trichopasia and
Oncidasia.
TIA
Stephen,
There are two that I would recommend:
1. Dendrobium and its Relatives by Lavarack, Harris and Stocker, and
2. The Dendrobiums by Howard P. Woods.
I think both are still available.
icones
> Also, can anyone suggest a comprehensive book or reference guide to
> dendrobiums?
>
Schnitz,
These other species had already been placed in Cattleya years before. I had
the same question and Casio gave us the old references.
icones
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Viateur,
The link you provided does not work is it correct?
icones
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Subject: [OGD] Peruvian species / genus Telipogon
A note of thanks to
Michael Benedito
for providing a link to the arti
Ken,
OrchidWiz is a fantastic program, and is constantly evolving with every
update. A must as far as I am concerned.
icones
Subject: [OGD] Wildcat Orchidwiz AQPlus
>I am trying to get information on wildcat, orchidwiz and aqplus for my
>orchid society. Does anyone know what is hap
I suspect this may be a case of self pollination.
icones
Subject: [OGD] Eulophia graminea / popping up in Florida (US)
> "orchid... popping up in Miami-Dade County in disturbed and abandoned lots
> as well as in manicured and mulched garden beds... not a native...
>
> Its one
Paul,
It was described by Pupulin & Bogarin in Orchids 73 (3): 206. The article
has good color pictures and some additional information.
icones
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Subject: [OGD] Brassia suavissima . . .
his is a group of plants grown from
seed, then it is just the genetic variability within the hybrid. After all
this hybrid has 10 or more generations in its history and tremendous genetic
variability.
Hopes this helps.
icones
> Hi,
>
> What is the "process" by which orch
Contact me off line and I will send you a color picture.
icones
> help, is there anywhere on internet photo of Epi subpurum?
> thanks
>
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Greg,
Viateur already gave you the correct citation (Bob Dressler wrote the
description, not the article). However, if you would like a color copy of
the cover which has Scuticaria salesiana on it, let me know off line.
icones
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;. It is a much more recent
publication and specific to your subject.
icones
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> Mario sorry to hound you but if you do not ask questions you do not learn.
> I am now more confused than ever as I read up on what you say above (not
> doubting you).
> In
K Barrett,
The Auckland WOC was in 1990, the Tokyo WOC was in 1987. Neither have
Trichocentrum ( Syn Oncidium) Beatrice Emery on the cover of the
Proceedings. There are several pictures in AQplus 3.1.
icones
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The genus name is now Orchis, however testiculus I think is a later
misspelling of testiculis, which is a Pliny name proposed in 56AD. It would
take me more than a few minutes to research and find the current species
name.
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l hybrids carry the same names. However, my understanding is that
the Orchid Registrar of the RHS recently tried to change this and actually
recorded some reciprocal hybrids with different names, but was convinced not
to do so and corrected those already published. So that may be where some of
the
Kenneth,
I think the list is very worthwhile and should be kept, as much as possible,
the way it is. Surely there is some place for the OGD. Would a small
donation from the members help?
icones
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Nick,
Sophronitis cernua, at least as I understand it, is not bird pollinated, and
is the type species for the genus. Therefore the genus Sophronitis cannot be
defined as being bird pollinated, because if you do, then the type species
does not fit into the genus. You are correct that the other
owever, don't change your tags just yet; I understand that a
new set of DNA work is underway with much more extensive molecular analysis
being done. So further changes may occur.
The real question is; Will the Kew Monocot Checklist and Genera
Orchidacearum change if it does.
icones
> In
viewing it, Lindley
exclaimed "Why, you will drive the botanists mad!" The next hybrid to flower
was Cattleya Hybrida flowering in 1859. A much more detailed account can be
found in Volume 1 (1893) of the Orchid Review.
icones
> Does anyone perhaps know which species were used t
ORs have far more useful information than any
other orchid periodical and well worth the effort to obtain a complete set,
even if just a copy.
Hope this helps.
icones
> Thanks to icones for the response. We were aware of the reasons for the
> scarcity but a shot in the dark sometime
ld to Raymond
Sutton. If anyone has them he does. I know these years were in Mary's
personal set as it was complete (as mine is), but I would not think Sutton
would brake that set apart.
icones
Subject: [OGD] Orchid Reviews for 1917 and 1920
>I am enquiring on behalf of an orchid enthusia
.
icones
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Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:02 PM
Subject: [OGD] e-mail's
>l have not received any e-mail's from OGD in a long time, there must be
> some trouble some where please
Viateur,
The OR article did not give the species name but gave as reference Castle,
L. 1887. Orchids, Their Structure, History and Culture. Unfortunately this
reference does not list the species name either, just says salep is made
from a species of Habenaria in North America.
icones
Aaron,
There are several on the web for sale at between $20-$30.
icones
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:19 PM
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>
> Once more, I call upon the Teeming Milli
a genuine desire to see the AOS back to its
Glory.
As I stated at the end of my post to Bill. We should put the past behind us,
learn from these mistakes and ALL pull togeher to save this wonderful old
orgnization.
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w that everyone
is aware of it, we must all forget the past and pull together to save this
organization!
BTW Bill, you are a "newby" I joined the AOS 50, that's right 50 years ago! So
I have a little more experience to draw from when it comes to the AOS.
icones
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Review, AOS, or
London OS picture indexes.
icones
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To: orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:38 AM
Subject: [OGD] Cattleya Percilued
Cattleya percilued ( = lueddemanniana x percivaliana) appears registered in
1945 as
It is surprising that no one has mentioned that Lee Cooke is leaving the AOS,
and hopefully things will get better. I am certainly hoping so.
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rt. What I would
suggest is that you contact a botanical garden near you and see if they will
do the identification for you. If you are in the USA, Marie Selby Botanical
Gardens does identifications for a fee. I am sure there are others
throughout the world that do the same.
icones
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Steve,
Something's appears to be wrong with your address. My internet provider will
not accept it.
Please contact me off line about the book as I am interested.
icones
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Sent: Wednesday, November 15,
, Giessen, Germany
>
> Braem, G.J. (1986)
> The taxonomy of plants formerly referred to Oncidium section Oncidium
> (Orchidaceae) in the Caribbean Island.
> – Ph. D Thesis University of Newcastle upon Tyne, U.K.
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it, there is a new revision in
the works that will change everything again. As I said a mess.
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submitted, how many of them
have been accepted and entered into the database?
Luer's revisions were published in 'Icones Pleurothallidinarum' volume 26 in
2003, not in volume 28, which was just issued. However, I suspect you are
correct that these changes will not be incorporated in
an error, or an omission you should put together the data and send it
to M. Goverts at Kew. He will research it and if he believes you are correct he
will make the change right away. We did it, and it worked.
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Iris,
Could the plant in question be
Laelia/Hoffmannseggella/Sophronitis bahiensis?
icones
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Subject: [OGD] Taxonomic SOS
I'm doin
Marc,
This study was in fact the doctoral thesis of Dr. Robert Ferry and was
privately published in February 1999. The title was; 'An Anatomical Study of
the Epidermis of Leaves of the Genus Stanhopea (Orchidaceae) and their
Taxonomic Implications'.
icones
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and white
pictures, which if accurate, show distinct differences between the two.
Carlyle Luer, in Icones Pleurothallidinarum XXVIII (2006):14, recognizes
this genus and adds 4 more species to it. He also maintains the two species
as separate and distinct taxons.
BTW I could not find the picture
ars to
be wrong, when it places Jumellea triquetra and Jumellea neglecta as
synonyms of Angraecum triquetrum.
My recommendation would be to wait for it to flower and see if it is
Jumellea triquetra or Angraecum borbonicum (of course assuming it does not
turn out to be
during the time
the rule removing the 'i' was in effect, so is correct for that time period, if
it was.
icones
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Braem
To: orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:43
AM
Subject: [OGD] boissierianum
Oliver,
After I sent the below e-mail I continued to do some checking, and did find
where David Bennett and Eric Christenson used your spelling in 'Icones
Orchidacearum Peruviarum' plate 151. As I know Eric monitors this list, he
might be willing to talk with us about the correct s
no source that used your spelling, that does not mean
there are none, I just did not find any in the references I checked.
icones
>Picture # 3 shows a patch of Phragmipedium boissieranum (note spelling)
>photographed in sunlight, which is no proof they grow in full sun all day.
Other pe
exactly
the same thing it is closely related) exactly this way. One year I withheld
all water during the dormant period and the tubers suffered. So I returned
the next year to an occasional watering during winter.
icones
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approximately 7
3/4 X 5 1/4 inches however the seventh was approximately 9 1/4 X 7 1/4 inches.
The first six were by Benjamin Samuel Williams, but B. S. Williams died before
the seven edition was completed so the seventh was an enlargement and revision
by Henry Williams.
icones
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In 1984 Guido proposed the genus 'Braasiella' in Die Orchidee 35 (3)113-115.
It was named for Lothar A. Braas. Does anyone know what the 'A' in the name
stands for?
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would be willing to part with them I would like to
purchase them or get copies of them.
icones
> The late Jack Fowlie deserves a lot of credit...he made the Orchid Digest
> what it is today, he stimulated interest in orchids, particularly Paphs,
> and
> gave fascinating insights i
ust launching a personal attack.
> Icones remains a coward.
The proof of my courage has been demonstrated on many occasions, so this
attack means nothing. You in fact are the coward and a bully and I think
most every one on this list will agree. You need to clean up your act!
drobium was not
> complete.
Yes, I think that describes you quite well. When cornered once again, you
attack, trying to cloud the issues. Your arguments had so many holes in them
it was very laughable and we have had great fun going over them.
Nevertheless, I am glad it is over and you are shown to be what you are.
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in, he did not treat it the same as he did Dendrobium. You conveniently
do not discuss the other groups that you mentioned, because they do not even
come close to a 'similar' treatment (as you now claim you meant). Also if
you go back and read my quote (or the book), you will see that he
s dissatisfaction with Kranzlin's monograph of the genus
and explains why he felt compelled to completely revise the genus.
> Gunnar Seidenfaden included
> descriptions and diagrams of orchids that are endemic to Myanmar and
> Malaysia in his "Orchid Genera in Thailand", an
that would be no use to anyone.
I try never to insult, denigrate, hurt people's feelings or attack anyone on
this forum (or anywhere for that matter). Guido may be sparing, however, I
try very hard to just discuss an issue.
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revision of the genus in Die
Orchidaceen von Deutsch-Neu-Guinea, notwithstanding that all dendrobiums do not
grow in what was then German New Guinea. So reputation does
matter.
Thanks again,
icones
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John Stanley
To: Orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent:
Index Kewensis, which
you continually trash, therefore you trashed it also.
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all
to use.
icones
> Nonsense, Kew is not the expert on taxonomic questions. Taxonomic
> questions are governed by the International Code of Botanical
> Nomenclature- And that has nothing to do with Kew. Kew compiles _one_ list
> of plant species described (there are other
owever, to your question. Epidendrum porpax is a synonym for Epidendrum
peperomia. Therefore it is an Epidendrum and the correct
species epitaph is peperomia. The expert in this case is
Kew.
icones
Hi to all on the list
I am trying to find the current valid and
generally accepte
Patrick,
This was originally a Tricocentrum, and comes from
around 1600 meters altitude and grows in wet montane forest. Compare these
conditions with your growing conditions.
icones
Subject: [OGD] Plectrophora help
I've had a Plectorphora triquetra for a couple of
Hendrik,
The generally accepted name today is Dendrophylax
lindenii.
icones
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From:
Hendrik
Venter
To: Orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 9:58
AM
Subject: [OGD] Help re Polyradicion
lindenii
Good day to all on the
Jose,
All that is in #9 is the transfer from Neolehmannia (I can send that to you
if you want). Krannzlin named the species in Fedde Rapertorium Specierum
Novarum Regni Vegatabilis I :180 (1906) (Schweinfurth however records the
date as 1905). Which I don't have.
icones
- Ori
!
First off, I try to never cause any trouble and
secondly, to be as helpful as I can to other people on this list. As I
have said before my name has nothing to do with your difficulties with some of
your published names, that is totally your doing.
icones
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your published names, that is totally your doing.
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experts on this list even though they often do not post. I would suggest
they you reread the 'childish bickering' post to ascertain the nuances of what
Guido and I are talking about.
icones
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Buzz
Baxter
T
on't know how you would determine this but these are your words not mine)
on the post. Suggest you follow this edict.
icones
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abhor misspelling in internet posts, you need to use spell
check or read over what you write before sending.
icones
No way. All that is out from the Campacci
article is a Pdf file that was distributed after the publication of
Richardiana. That is fact and proven by the postal date in France.
an sort it out.
icones
>
> here is a big fraud going on. AFTER the publication of Chironiella, I
> received emails from Brazil in which I was accused of insulting the
> Brazilian people by not choosing a name honouring Brazil. The name
> Brasilaelia was suggested by MENEZES to
set of species) of
Chironiella in Richardiana 6(2), but Brasilaelia appears to have priority.
icones
> Thanks to Oliver Sparrow for passing on the article on speciation. This
> is a thought provoking concept, worthy of consideration. We do require
> systems to indulge our huma
Tia,
Where was it published? If you tell me, I may be
able to help.
icones
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From:
tiosuper
To: orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:21
AM
Subject: [OGD] Christenson Key's for the
Genus Stenorrhynchos
I am sear
Guido,
There is one in Curtis's Botanical Magazine for 1st of April 1858. Also a
reprint of that plate is in the Orchid review for 1988 page 77.
icones
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To:
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 6:37 AM
Su
Les,
There is no article, there is just a picture on the front cover.
icones
> What iam looking for if anyone had a copy of this Article.
>
> American Orchid Society Bulletin
>
> August 1973 on Sophronitella violacea.
>
>
>
> Many Thanks for
ion on ABE
books if you are interested.
icones
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From:
Giles
Smith
To: Orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 7:03
PM
Subject: [OGD] Old Book
I just came across a fascinating bit of orchid
history; a book by Benjamin Williams t
Lisa,
I tried to email you directly to see if you had already received a copy of
this article, however, it was returned as un deliverable.
Please contact me off line if you still need a copy of the article.
icones
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Sent: T
I did
a search of all articles in Brenesia, neither Cattleya storeyi nor H. G.
Jones came up. Kew Monocot Checklist does list it as a valid species. You
would have to get the type specimen to see what it really is.
icones
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From: "Jose A. Izquierdo" <[EM
Viateur,
Yes, it is Maxillaria errata and the article is on pages 79-81
icones
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Subject: [OGD] Maxillaria sp. / Orchid Digest, April-June 2005
> Hello OGDers :
>
> Presumabl
people that need
it. I wish them all the success with this project.
icones
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Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 4:07 PM
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> Some of you may be awa
s, that is the one I would use. There are several authoritatively
published pictures of Bulbophyllum delitescens. One in the
'Orchid Flora of Arunachal Pradesh' and the other in 'Native Orchids of
China in Color', you can compare your plant with these when it
flower
proposed.
icones
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Subject: [OGD] Bulbophyllum Question
> Laxiflorum vs laxifolium. Are they the same species or different?
>
> Origin, culture, notes fo
5 work 'The Orchids of Burma' lists as S.
Hardingiana and states he named it for Mr. Harding of Rangoon.
I suspect it was an error on Reichenbach's part (notwithstanding the fact
that Parish was listed as the senior author)when he published the name.
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Nick,
That is correct, but notwithstanding Wallace did produce a plate with the
moth and A.S. as I have since found my copy and have the picture before me.
So maybe much more was known when Darwin made his famous prediction than was
let on.
icones
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Guido,
Look in Wallace, I think it was 1867.
icones
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From:
Dr. Braem
To: Orchids@orchidguide.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:42
AM
Subject: [OGD] A. sequipedale
Dear OGD'sdoes
anyone know of a painting (drawing) depi
Thanks to all who sent me David's address. What I
learned is that his ISP is rejecting any mail, as his inbox is full. He is away
and I guess no one is reading his mail.
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Could some one please give me David Banks new e-mail address, his old ozmail
address does not seem to be active.
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John,
In The Orchadian articles, Jones et al, did not transfer Corybas
aconitiflorus to Corysanthes. So there appears to be no problem as I see it.
icones
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:43
arden
Bulletin and the second is in the 1991 Orchid Digest 55 (4):167-170. As I am
sure you have the Orchid Digest you can just look it up. If you don't have it I
can send you a copy.
Both articles are very similar.
icones
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send them to you.
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Subject: [OGD] Dendrobium tuananhii or trantuanii?
Hi all,
Does anybody know which is the valid name of this newly
discovered Vietnamese species.
Chuck,
Dendrobium gregulus was named by Gunnar Seidenfaden in Opera Botanica
83-1985. it is endemic to Thailand and found only in the Bo Luang area.
Grows from 1100 to 1250 meters altitude.
icones
Anyone know where I might find Dendrobium gregulus?
Chuck Hanson
for people
that are interested in learning the proper terms or definitions and did not
relate specifically to albino.
icones
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s anthocyanin, that it normally has, it is an albino. Likewise
for other colors.
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Barry,
I suspect you meant 'species orchids' as the word specie is reserved for
coins, usually of gold or silver.
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Subject: [OGD] Flasking Prol
present. But just because they used these terms
improperly then, does not mean we should perpetuate this inaccuracy in the
present. Even the best of us make mistakes, but we all should strive to
learn and use the proper terms.
icones
Icones,
I'm a hobbyist orchid grower, not a botani
er in looking at the
photograph it just shows an aurea form. There are two types of aurea forms,
one with the color of the lip the same as in the type, and then ones with
pure white lips. There are clones that are green instead of yellow, but I
would never call any of these alba.
icones
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Marc,
I would very much like to see a picture of one myself. So could you please
scan it in and send it to me.
Thanks,
icones
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To:
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:02 AM
Subject: [OGD] Laelia te
Stuart,
I suspect what the Seidel Catalog was listing
as the alba form, was in reality the aurea or yellow form of L.
tenebrosa. Some people would call this an alba form but it is not, as alba means
white. Several of the yellow forms have been awarded by the AOS and the
RHS.
icones
same species. If you would like to read about the full details it was written up
some time ago in the 'Florida Orchidist'.
icones
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Subject: [OGD] Re: O
K,
Icones,
Did you see the DNA work (I don't recall the author) that's posted on the
orchideen message board?
Yes, I have had copies for some time.
http://www.orchideen-forum.de/board/showtopic.php?threadid=8974&highlight=)
I can't read the discussion, but maybe you c
zukii to be a hybrid.
It may even prove to be a hybrid with different parents than D. Peng Seng.
The point is that we don't yet know what it really is, so some degree of
caution seems to be in order.
icones
Icones said: "Reviewing the flowers of the man made hybrid D. Peng
Seng
each other very much. Column,
lip, side lobes, etc... are very different.
Until we have several specimens of each to examine or some DNA work done we
will really not know.
icones
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From: "Peter O'Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Roy,
My understanding is that they plan to do all of the
major groups of the Orchidaceae. The results are to be published and then
incorporated into 'Genera Orchidacearum'.
icones
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LEE
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Sent: Satu
sonal knowledge of this species?
icones
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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:14 AM
Subject: [OGD] Bulbophyllum vittatum
My apologies to both icones and Viateur. It was indeed icones who
posted regarding
inportant treatments of the orchid flora of Java,
all agreeing on its status.
icones
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the tree limb with the plant home, plunged the end of the
limb into a deep pan full of peat and kept the peat wet at all times. The
plant grew and flowered for years under the bench in the greenhouse.
Good luck with your plant.
icones
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Peter,
First off it was not Viateur that posted that, but icones.
If you go to the J. J. Smith reference you will clearly see he demotes B.
vittatum T & B to a variety of B.cernuum, thus the var. vittatum (T & B)
J.J. Sm in Comber. If you do not have this reference I will scan in and
t consider that recent literature.
icones
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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: [OGD] Bulbophyllum vittatum
Ana Fischer asked: "Can somebody help me t
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