Gretag Macbeth colo(u)r checker
It's been a good day for finding things: I also found the scans I made to compare two film scanners. So if anyone has been wondering what a checker looks like: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/chart.html (Now you can see why I switched to the LS30, can't you?) The colours of each square are very carefully controlled, and the RGB values (in several colour spaces) are included with the chart.
Re: *istD image flaws?
On 14 Oct 2003 at 22:58, Bucky wrote: Particularly the aliasing along the edge of the curved stamens of the flower towards 7 or 8 o'clock on the picture. I would expect this to vanish in TIFF or RAW, but can anyone tell their experience with this type of issue? If you are looking at around 920,1640 on the image img20030916184719.jpg, I don't think that's going to go away if it were saved as TIFF, it looks like a demosaicing aberration. Solution shoot RAW and process with a more capable algorithm off the camera. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Has Pentax missed again?
Cotty wrote: C Rob, I bet you are soo relieved you didn't cave in to the Sigma C DSLR a while back ;-) The *ist D is a little cutey. Yes, a nice box but still a box around the sensor. And the cutey thing in Sigma is that Foveon sensor, something I wish to see in a Pentax too at some point in the future. Hopefully the agreement between Foveon and Sigma expires soon and the X3 sensors proliferates. It's best thing that happened in the imaging industry since the colour film. I agree. I was lucky enough to attend a technical presentation on the Foveon sensor shortly before the Sigma camera was released (they had cameras there, but the model number was obscured). It's quite a stunning sensor, even allowing for the fact that the presentation was obviously designed to show off the Foveon technology in the best possible light. Unfortunately the presenter (and chief Foveon technologist, I believe) tends to rather overstate his case. Instead of merely claiming that their sensor is comparable to the performance of 35mm film, he instead wants you to believe that it out-performs medium format cameras as well. The end result, of course, (apart from embarrassing some of his other techies, who were also photographers) is that there is a temptation to ignore the whole set of claims because of this obvious exaggeration. That's a mistake, but it's all too easy a mistake to make.
Re: OT: eBay plagiarism
I told him that in a message, but made it clear that he was responsible because he posted the stolen text. However, 'Micro Optical' may not exist. I've done a couple of searches and found nothing. I've dealt with a lot of crooks over the last fifteen years or so. His reaction is what you would expect from a guilty person. Don ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: Mark Cassino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:15 AM Subject: Re: OT: eBay plagiarism It's possible that he is telling the truth and the thief is the guy he hired. :-\ - MCC , I hired a guy from Micro Optical to help me with the rest of the item's that I no nothing about (NOT THAT I OWE YOU ANY EXPLANATIONS, BUT NEXT TIME YOU BETTER GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU GO POINTING THAT UGLY FINGER OF YOURS.) - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com
Re: Optical Formula of Takumar 500/4.5
Maciej Marchlewski a crit: Is the optical formula of Takumar 500/4,5 the same as SMC PENTAX 1:4.5/500? http://digilander.libero.it/aohc/tak05e.htm says 4 elements in 4 groups for Tak and so does I found this diagram (and many others) in the book: The Ultimate Asahi Pentax Screw Mount Guide by Gerjan van Oosten. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/extreme- tele/K500f4.5.html for K 500. But is the optical design the same? If not, where I can find the optical diagram for Takumar lens? Both lenses share the same diagram !
Re: Optical Formula of Takumar 500/4.5
Dnia 15-10-2003 o godz. 8:47 Michel Carre`re-Ge napisa(a): Is the optical formula of Takumar 500/4,5 the same as SMC PENTAX 1:4.5/500? Both lenses share the same diagram ! Thank you very much! Maciej --- Leonardo DiCaprio + Daniel Day-Lewis + Cameron Diaz w Twoim domu na DVD i VHS. GANGI NOWEGO JORKU specjalnie dla Ciebie! http://film.wp.pl/p/film.html?id=1915
Re: Gretag Macbeth colo(u)r checker
I was gonna say if you got a spyder, to mail it to me for 1 week to test it for ya! --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a good day for finding things: I also found the scans I made to compare two film scanners. So if anyone has been wondering what a checker looks like: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/chart.html (Now you can see why I switched to the LS30, can't you?) The colours of each square are very carefully controlled, and the RGB values (in several colour spaces) are included with the chart. __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
Re: SMCP FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 Power Zoom lens price
Hi Rob: I sold one of these for A$200 to a guy in Townsville in May last year. That was boxed, with soft case, etc. HTH John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: SMCP FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 Power Zoom lens price Hi Team, Anyone have an idea of ball-park pricing for a used SMCP FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 Power Zoom lens? TIA, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel
John Francis wrote: OK, now we're getting to the part where my analysis has to be spot on. Shooting motorsports, I'm not going to have time to review in camera. Not something you want to do, in any case, with large heavy objects whizzing by at 200mph. Not that I haven't seen people doing that; sitting on the Jersey barrier, back to traffic, paying no attention. [Have you heard the term for that activity? It's known as 'chimping'; folks staring at their camera dispay and going Oooh! Oooh! Oooh!] Hehehehehe. Marnie aka Doe Hehehehehehehehehehehehe. Heh. LOL.
*ist D, hidden features ?
Casio camera has hidden features: http://www.inweb.ch/foto/testmodemenus.html Has anyone tried that with Pentax camera: - Optio S - *ist D Be careful !! Michel
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
The biggest disappointment there, imo, is the FA100/2.8 macro. At full opening it shows enough chromatic aberration to be unusable. It's OK at f/8, though. Jostein Wish I could have followed this thread concerning DOF, but it went over my head. However, one question, why would the chromatic aberration be worse or show up worse on a digital rather than a film camera? Huh? Marnie aka Doe And it's disappointing -- that was one lens I coveted. Well, if I had a Pentax camera, or if I get one.
Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?)
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:06 AM Subject: Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?) There's one thing that struck me as particularly important - with 5n one cannot! set aperture from the body. That is, if you want to set aperture value that you choose - you have to do it on the lens. I suppose that 5n would work with FAJ lenses, but then Av mode would not be accessible. Or I may be totally wrong... Yep you can't set aperture on the 5n body.. would be useful to have so that they'd be fully compatible with the FAJ lenses. Maybe Pentax has some super post- powerzoom, post-IS, post-HSM innovation which requires lenses to have a basic FAJ circuitry configuration! Or maybe they're innovation department recently hired a d*ckhead.. Indeed MZ-6 has this variety of modes. The only useful is sport action mode. There the AF is forced into predictive mode... Not that it helps much because IMHO it is more a gimmick than really useful thing. Don't forget the more gimmicky 'panorama mode' on the 5n! :) Though of course MZ-6 has snap in focus, which though is independent of picture more. Hasn't the 5n got snap in focus w/ manual lenses too? Actually, and this may cause some people to throw some vegetables at me, but I think that MZ-5n and MZ-6 are of the same basic class. None is particularly sturdy, both are well feature packed. I think the only thing MZ-6 needs is to borrow viewfinder from 5n. Same class I suppose in terms of specs I guess- just different interface. I've always felt the 5n seems more sturdier than the 6 though. On something else, do you notice the eyecup of the 5n has a tendency to attempt escape from the camera everytime you take it out of a bag? Rgds, Ryan
Re: Flash Diffuser
Hi Joe, Yup.. I was wondering whether there was a Stofen Omnibounce for the Pentax AF360FGZ. Rob mentioned that the Stofen OM-MZ3 Omnibounce which was actually meant for the Sigma 420 and 430 series flashes fit perfectly. No elastic, no velcro! :) Rgds, Ryan - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:48 AM Subject: Flash Diffuser There was a question a few days ago about flash diffusers for Pentax flashes. Apparently one option is a generic diffuser that attaches via velcro. Some users don't care for that solution. I have just learned that Adorama markets a white nylon sock that slips over a flash and is held on by elastic. It is a diffuser, causing about 1 stop loss of light. Such an intelligent solution! It can just be folded and put into a gadget bag pouch. No piece of rigid plastic to find a place for. Seems to me that one could even use this on the camera's rtf and tone down the harsh effects a bit - with a one-stop loss, of course. Cool. Joe
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
Bill, Are you sure it's only down to aliasing? At any rate; do you know how stopping down affects aliasing? cheers, Jostein Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! http://home.online.no/~jooksne/istd_aberr.htm There also seems to be some blue fringing on the vertical part of the railing, where it contrasts with the white foam of the stream. This is also visible on the top of the lower horizontal rail. Ain't aliasing a wonderful thing? William Robb - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
OT: Saturated contrasty negative films..
Hey just wondering if anyone's got any strong opinions on the most saturated/contrasty (either or) 35mm negative film. Any speed.. Like I suppose what I'm asking is what's the Velvia of negative film? Thanks, Ryan
Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
Hey ppl.. This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? Rgds, Ryan
A technical description of a Leitz Heine phase contrast condenser
Hi, I am sorry to trouble you with this but: a person called D Neilian of Los Angeles - '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - claims that someone on your staff wrote a technical description of a Heine condenser for his eBay listing for such an item. He states that he employed an *expert* from 'Micro Optical' to do it for him. Is there any way we can find out if one of your staff actually did do this? If you need to see the text it can be found here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2563924879category=11813rd=1 Regards, DW ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003
A technical description of a Leitz Heine phase contrast condenser
Hi, I am sorry to trouble you with this but: a person called D Neilian of Los Angeles - '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - claims that someone on your staff wrote a technical description of a Heine condenser for his eBay listing for such an item. He states that he employed an *expert* from 'Micro Optical' to do it for him. Is there any way we can find out if one of your staff actually did do this? If you need to see the text it can be found here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2563924879category=11813rd=1 Regards, DW ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? Optically, it is an okay lens imho, good but not great. The problem is that the focus ring is too narrow to use comfortably. The eBay price used to be unbelievably high, and many being tricked to believe it was rare, but should be quite a bit cheaper now. I think US$150 is a good price for a mint sample. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: correct exposure
When I first worked in a studio 27 years ago my boss was doing just what is claimed isn't done! And he had been doing so for several years if the condition of his gear was any guide. When my parents married over 55 years ago the SOP was to visit the photographer's high street studio between service and reception, for the wedding party set-ups. Studio lighting has been associated with weddings for a very long time. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I stand by my reply. His post makes no sense. You cant really do studio strobes at weddings and receptions. His teachers must be the stupid jerks. -- -- J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -- --
RE: Saturated contrasty negative films..
Ryan Wrote; Hey just wondering if anyone's got any strong opinions on the most saturated/contrasty (either or) 35mm negative film. Any speed.. Like I suppose what I'm asking is what's the Velvia of negative film? Thanks, Ryan I like Fuji Reala. Sappy color, fine grain, great enlargements. Only available in ISO 100. Closest to Velvia I've used. Dave
Re: OT: Saturated contrasty negative films..
Hey just wondering if anyone's got any strong opinions on the most saturated/contrasty (either or) 35mm negative film. Any speed.. Like I suppose what I'm asking is what's the Velvia of negative film? I don't think there is subsititute for RVP, negative or slide. Your best hope would be Agfa Ultra 100. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?)
Hi! Yep you can't set aperture on the 5n body.. would be useful to have so that they'd be fully compatible with the FAJ lenses. Maybe Pentax has some super post- powerzoom, post-IS, post-HSM innovation which requires lenses to have a basic FAJ circuitry configuration! Or maybe they're innovation department recently hired a d*ckhead.. Unfortunately, it seems more like the second is true and the first is not sigh. Don't forget the more gimmicky 'panorama mode' on the 5n! :) Actually I forgot. After all the little lever is not as large as these icons on the mode wheel... Though of course MZ-6 has snap in focus, which though is independent of picture more. Hasn't the 5n got snap in focus w/ manual lenses too? I guess it has. I don't know. I did not get to try that. I suppose that nothing can prevent any MZ series AF camera to have snap in focus, except of course some clever programming. Same class I suppose in terms of specs I guess- just different interface. I've always felt the 5n seems more sturdier than the 6 though. On something else, do you notice the eyecup of the 5n has a tendency to attempt escape from the camera everytime you take it out of a bag? Hehe. Actually, since it wasn't my camera, and I had it on load, I kept it at home. So it was on the shelf and I never actually took it out a bag. Admittedly though, 5n's eyecap is more comfortable than that of MZ-6. Actually, the whole viewfinder subsystem is better. I did not notice any difference in sturdiness between 5n and 6. I am really afraid that 5n is sturdier by the rumour, not by design or construction. By the way, both cameras I compared (my ZX-L and co-workers 5n) were made in Japan. Perhaps, there are other batches which were made elsewhere, and for them there is indeed a difference in sturdiness. I couldn't really notice any such difference between two cameras I held. The serious difference in sturdiness however is easily observed between either of MZ cameras in question and my little ME Super... Though even there the cover that covers the top of the camera - controls and penta-prism is plastic too... Happy shooting... Boris
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
Hi, Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 9:12:16 AM, you wrote: Hey ppl.. This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? I have one in good condition which cost me about US$100 (equivalent). It's a bit soft, but it's ok and very convenient on an MX. The focussing ring is very narrow indeed, so if your fingers are large you might have difficulty with it. -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Camera Canada?
This shop has some very attractive price. Have anyone purchased from them? Are they reputable? Thx! http://www.cameracanada.com/index.asp Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: OT: Saturated contrasty negative films..
Alan wrote: AC I don't think there is subsititute for RVP, negative or slide. Your best AC hope would be Agfa Ultra 100. Uh, I just got to see my first Ultra 100 test results and they are not very encouraging to say the least. I took pictures of a variety of subjects, including scenics, macro with and without flash, portraits. Colours are very good in diffused light, even with direct flash. The increased saturation is there but it doesn't impact the colour balance, except for the skin tones that get a red or magenta (for backlight with blue skies) taint. The bad news are firstly grain - unacceptably high for a 100 ASA negative, almost as high as a 400 ASA film. This is especially annoying as in the product specification Ultra is given with very low granularity. I have to take the next Ultras to an Agfa lab to have it specifically developed in Agfa C41 chemicals and see if it gets any better. Second, the Agfa exhibits the same poor antihalation protection I have noticed previously with the old Optima II 100. The edges of overexposed areas are excessively blended with the adjacent areas, resulting in a massive sharpness decrease. For instance in a sunset shot this shows up as fuzzy horizon line and exaggerated silhouettes effects. Anyway I'm not going to dismiss Ultra 100 that fast and continue to test with different subjects and labs. It is obviously a very specialized film that works as intended only in specific situations and I intend to determine exactly its usefulness. Servus, Alin
RE: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? Alan Chan wrote: Optically, it is an okay lens imho, good but not great. The problem is that the focus ring is too narrow to use comfortably. The eBay price used to be unbelievably high, and many being tricked to believe it was rare, but should be quite a bit cheaper now. I think US$150 is a good price for a mint sample. At the start of February this year, I found one boxed as new for £70 including postage on eBay. It certainly didn't attract many bidders, luckily for me - maybe they are falling out of favour?. Where the 40mm is a hands down winner for me is size, making an MX a pocket able camera, which it isn't with a 50mm lens. Malcolm
RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel
I cant say I have notices RAW being any slower on the *istD than JPG to be honest. The ist CAN zoom on RAW files (I am sure it can - will check later just in case), and while the software ist fantastic it is a lot easier than doing the adjustments in PS. It IS slow to convert to jpg after the changes though, but still waaay faster than trying to do the changes in PS (and with better results too). File size IS a problem - or would be if I had to pay full price for memory. Its wonderful being able to borrow the memory from work! Using the histogram and adjusting when necessary is fine if you are able to recreate a shot, or the lighting and contrast range of the shot doesn't vary at all between shots, but often neither of these is the case. Each to their own, I guess. I will mix match the two but if and when I get serious about a particular shoot, it will be RAW every time. BTW anyone wondering about the noise in my sample pics for this test - it was shot at 1600ISO!! I notice reducing the exposure in the RAW software actually made the noise a lot better too, something that again the jpg adjustments couldn't do - and not something I expected. -Original Message- From: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 01:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel On 15 Oct 2003 at 0:59, Rob Brigham wrote: Seeing the full size files, this is clear cut for me. Jpg is not a problem from a compression point of view, but creating the jpgs from the camera is throwing away some of the information from the image capture which can never be recovered. If you have any small exposure error then RAW will probablybe able to correct that for you, but jpg will not. I came to very similar conclusions when I first ventured into digital image capture. This is precisely why I regularly check my historgams when shots are critical. Not only can you determine the optimum exposure you can also match the cameras contrast control to the scene. For instance why flat line at the top and bottom of the histogram when a high contrast setting will provide a broader histogram with obviously greater delineation across the light range of the scene. Shooting RAW has more drawbacks than positive attributes for me. Saving is slow, file size is huge, I can't zoom the RAW image on review in the camera, my RAW import utility is poor and even the better third party s/w is pretty slow. I spent some time learning how to optimise capture and I save in-camera in jpeg, I'm most often very pleased with the results. I'm still keen to have some time with the *ist D to see if the RAW processing stream has improved any. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/ ~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: correct exposure
Real professional wedding photographers do lots of metering with and use studio strobes. For all but the receptions shots we meter just about everything. During the reception we check flash exposures periodically. We also probably charge 10x what you do. You get what you pay for. BR From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] I stand by my reply. His post makes no sense. You cant really do studio strobes at weddings and receptions. His teachers must be the stupid jerks.
Re: correct exposure
Sure, but you're not selling a baggie of exposed film like JCO does. BR From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use my studio strobes (alien Bees) for formals at all the weddings I shoot. I wouldn't want to use a little flash on a bracket for that kind of stuff. -- Content-Type: text/plain pentax-discuss-d Digest Volume 03 : Issue 1212 Today's Topics: RE: correct exposure [ J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel [ Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel [ Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: CF tripods[ Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: correct exposure [ J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Old lenses and *ist D [ Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: correct exposure [ William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] pentax optio 550 [ Sean Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: pentax optio 550 [ William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: Has Pentax missed again? [ Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Puzzled over lack of comments [ Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: Has Pentax missed again? [ William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: Has Pentax missed again? [ J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: correct exposure [ J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: correct exposure [ tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: correct exposure [ William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re[2]: correct exposure [ Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: correct exposure [ Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] RE: Has Pentax missed again? [ Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Hand-holding 300/2.8 [ John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] SMCP FA 28-80 3.5-4.7 Power Zoom len [ Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] *istD image flaws?[ Bucky [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: correct exposure [ John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Gretag Macbeth colo(u)r checker [ John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Re: *istD image flaws?[ Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:25:48 -0400 From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: correct exposure Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, with TTL, you are going to change the ISO, not the stop. But the problem will be the same if you dont change the ISO. A predominately white gown shot will tend to underexpose with TTL as it gets tricked by high reflectance.. BAD! JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 11:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: correct exposure If you use TTL, and it works properly, the exposure will not change when you change the stop. Regards, Bob... Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women? -Martin Luther From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] That would only happen if you are using manual (fixed power) flash flash meter. If you use TTL or Non-TTl auto flash, the brides dress is not going to overexpose. Much more likely, it will underexpose due to reflectance being high. Thus opening up a stop gives some insurance against that problem. From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: correct exposure What planet are you guys from?? Mars. Everybody knows that CN film has about 4 stops overexposure latitude and only about 1 under. Always overexpose to be safe. 1 stop over sounds perfect to me and that is what I did routinely for my weddings. Results were beautiful. You have to watch the overexposure thing with white dresses. If the global exposure for the scene is correct, the white dress will likely be pushing Zone VIII, which is 3 stops of overexposure latitude gone already. -- Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:38:32 -0400 From: Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the Mini is carryable. Herb - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
Re: A technical description of a Leitz Heine phase contrast condenser
That should work! - MCC At 11:21 AM 10/15/2003 +0300, you wrote: Hi, I am sorry to trouble you with this but: a person called D Neilian of Los Angeles - '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - claims that someone on your staff wrote a technical description of a Heine condenser for his eBay listing for such an item. He states that he employed an *expert* from 'Micro Optical' to do it for him. Is there any way we can find out if one of your staff actually did do this? If you need to see the text it can be found here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2563924879category=11813rd=1 Regards, DW ___ Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery See New Pages The Cement Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com
Re: correct exposure
Hi Doug, What was the subject to background distance? About a metre What was the camera to background distance? About 2.5 metres Where were the lights set? She was seated. One large softbox to my right,about 2.5m away from her, one hair light about 2.5 metres above her and one with a snoot facing the background aligned with her head, pretty close to the background, about .75m What was the light to background distance? Was the camera stationary? On a tripod, he believes that you cannot take a good portrait from behind the camera, so he composes the shot, focuses, then he stands next to it with the cable release in his hand talking to her, gets her to smile by saying sex or money and shoots it. His very methodical about it, I think theres only 12-16 shots in his camera and all of them are keepers by the time he is done. Regards Feroze Doug
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
I've had two experiences with this lens, and a different attitude on my part the second time around is what made me realize its benefits. The first time I bought one, about three years ago, I used it on an ME Super. The size was wonderful, but my problem was that I was trying to use it like the 50mm f/1.7 or 50mm f/1.4 -- I was using it for available light photos indoors and was not pleased with its performance wide open. Since even the 50/1.7 performs much better than the pancake lens at f/2.8 (and can go more than a stop faster, too, of course), I felt it was always a tradeoff when I chose the 40/2.8, even when I was outdoors, since I kept thinking I could be carrying a faster lens instead. I traded the pancake at some point, but I always missed it a bit. More recently, I picked one up for a more reasonable price and this time, I had two MXes and a different attitude. While the lens hadn't changed, I now appreciate its tremendous compactness and I don't take it along when I think I'm going to be shooting at f/2 or focusing in dim light. But it delivers very nice performance at most apertures, and seems fine at f/4 too, and even f/2.8 will do in a pinch if that's all you have. But it's no slower than Pentax's 28mm f/2.8 and 24mm f/2.8 lenses, and it's faster than the screwmount 35mm, 28mm, and 24mm f/3.5 lenses I've had. So it's really all a matter of perspective. It's a great walkaround lens, it gives the camera a different balance (it tips a little bit backward instead of forward -- the balance in the hand is more like a rangefinder!), and it has the 40mm focal length, which really is a nice compromise between the 35 and 50. It has the SMC coatings, doesn't need a lens hood and delivers nice saturated results. $125-$150 for one in nice condition is about right. Joe This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? Optically, it is an okay lens imho, good but not great. The problem is that the focus ring is too narrow to use comfortably. The eBay price used to be unbelievably high, and many being tricked to believe it was rare, but should be quite a bit cheaper now. I think US$150 is a good price for a mint sample. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel
Rob Brigham wrote: [. . .] BTW anyone wondering about the noise in my sample pics for this test - it was shot at 1600ISO!! I notice reducing the exposure in the RAW software actually made the noise a lot better too, something that again the jpg adjustments couldn't do - and not something I expected. Seems to me, anytime you feel you have to or want to resort to an ISO of 1600, a little noise is a very minor price to pay, especially if there's a relatively simple way to reduce it. 1600 ISP with a digital... marvelous! g keith
Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?)
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:51:30 +1000, Ryan Lee wrote: Though of course MZ-6 has snap in focus, which though is independent of picture more. Hasn't the 5n got snap in focus w/ manual lenses too? The ZX-5/MZ-5 has snap in focus, so I'd think the -5n does, too. do you notice the eyecup of the 5n has a tendency to attempt escape from the camera everytime you take it out of a bag? The -5 and the MZ-S are both this way, too. :-( TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by Grisoft's AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 03-10-12
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:48:41 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] why would the chromatic aberration be worse or show up worse on a digital rather than a film camera? I can think of a couple of possibilities: 1) greater magnification from the smaller sensor means _everything_ is bigger, including the artifacts of aberrations 2) the difference between the random distribution of film grains compared to the rigidly defined distribution of sensor pixels means that the aberration artifacts get distributed around randomly on film and therefore diffused, but end up as lines of artifacts on the digital sensor, which makes them more recognizable to the human visual system TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by Grisoft's AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 03-10-12
Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?)
All Pentax autofocus cameras support snap in focus. Bill - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?) On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 17:51:30 +1000, Ryan Lee wrote: Though of course MZ-6 has snap in focus, which though is independent of picture more. Hasn't the 5n got snap in focus w/ manual lenses too? The ZX-5/MZ-5 has snap in focus, so I'd think the -5n does, too. do you notice the eyecup of the 5n has a tendency to attempt escape from the camera everytime you take it out of a bag? The -5 and the MZ-S are both this way, too. :-( TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by Grisoft's AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 - Release Date: 03-10-12
Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel
I've done a few test shots at ISO 3200 in the *istD. As you say, if you need the speed, the noise is not that objectionable, and really no worse than grain in film. Bill - Original Message - From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel Rob Brigham wrote: [. . .] BTW anyone wondering about the noise in my sample pics for this test - it was shot at 1600ISO!! I notice reducing the exposure in the RAW software actually made the noise a lot better too, something that again the jpg adjustments couldn't do - and not something I expected. Seems to me, anytime you feel you have to or want to resort to an ISO of 1600, a little noise is a very minor price to pay, especially if there's a relatively simple way to reduce it. 1600 ISP with a digital... marvelous! g keith
Re: List hiccups
Hi, Boris, It's happened to me before, but not now. Everything seems fine here. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: List hiccups Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:11:22 +0400 Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
On 15 Oct 2003 at 9:16, Doug Franklin wrote: 2) the difference between the random distribution of film grains compared to the rigidly defined distribution of sensor pixels means that the aberration artifacts get distributed around randomly on film and therefore diffused, but end up as lines of artifacts on the digital sensor, which makes them more recognizable to the human visual system Also since the discrete pixels of the actual sensor are positioned in a colour matrix colour aberrations are generally exaggerated by the demosaicing algorithm. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: correct exposure
Look, I am only going by MY experience ( which I will admit is somewhat limited, I only did weddings for a few years before retiring ). None of my clients ever wanted to dedicate enuff time to the formal group shots. They always seemed rushed and got upset when I usually asked for 2-3 shots of same pose to insure no blinking etc. Speed is/was of the essence for me. Time to set up /take flash meter readings on every shot was not possible and while strobes/umbrellas could improve the quality of light on the single/closeup shots, its not going to do that on group shots where the stobes are relatively small compared to the subject. I never ran out of flash power with my handheld Vivtar 285 which gives a a GN of 160 when using ISO200 and even then I had an additional stop of insurance. Even at 20 ft. I still had F8. There was no lack of power to necessite more powerful strobes for that reason. The only reason I would ever use them is to get the umbrellas/light quality for closeups. But there is no way I could or would attempt that then or now. Just not enuff time. Funny thing is after doing a few weddings, I bought two books on the subject back then and dont recall either one mentioning mandatory use of studio type strobes for doing weddings. I would have remembered that.BTW, the last few that I did came out so nice I had to turn down a lot of word of mouth refferals... JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: correct exposure Dear JC, Get your brains out of neutral, every high end wedding photographer around here has a studio session, either by having the bride come his studio or on bringing his studio lights and backdrops to the location. Some of these guys travel with a whole truck load of stuff, including little blocks for the bride to raise her feet on or for the groom to stand on if his shorter than the bride. From my rather limited viewing of about 30 wedding albums, every one had studio shots in it. My stupid jerk teacher is 85 by the way, has been doing this for 60 years, and still focuses a MF camera manually. The other one has an M.Tech and his B.Sc in photography and has written his masters thesis on wedding photography . He is currently the head lecturer at the Rand Afrikaans University and sometimes judges competions for Fuji - but I guess that isn't enough for you is it? Think outside the box for a change, being pedantic will only limit you in the end. Feroze - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:00 AM Subject: RE: correct exposure I stand by my reply. His post makes no sense. You cant really do studio strobes at weddings and receptions. His teachers must be the stupid jerks. -- -- J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -- -- -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: correct exposure - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: correct exposure I guess it's possible but VERY unlikely that many people would be working that way for a wedding/reception. In my experince, no matter how much I warn/persuede the bride/groom in advance, the wedding day is always hectic/fast paced and that type of slow deliberate photography is out of the question. I always used non-TTL autoflash, Fuji NPH, and one stop over (iso 200) and got nice results. To each his own I guess You stupid, bombastic jerk. Here is the original post that I was replying to. Hi All, I'm currently doing a course in wedding photography. One of the things that came up and which I forgot to ask was: we were told that the studio lights had been set for f/11 and that we should set our cameras to f/8, why is this so? Thanks, Feroze Get it? He's talking about stdio lights. As in STUDIO LIGHTS Did your mother have any children that developed intelligence? William Robb
Re: OT: Saturated contrasty negative films..
- Original Message - From: Th. Stach Subject: Re: OT: Saturated contrasty negative films.. Also a little OT on this: Who knows when Kodak Ektar ISO 25 was discontinued? I miss this film most... It feels like forever, but I suspect it was only 5 or 6 years ago. William Robb
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:01 AM Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! Bill, Are you sure it's only down to aliasing? Heck no, but thats what it looks like to me. I would trust most anyones opinion on it over my own though. I am pretty new to this part of the game. With film sometimes you will see similar artifacts. We call them Mackie lines with film. At any rate; do you know how stopping down affects aliasing? I wouldn't think it would affect aliasing, but again, I am prepared to be told otherwise by more experianced people. William Robb
Re: Has Pentax missed again?
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: RE: Has Pentax missed again? How are the normals on the *ist D? I noticed that some were saying their 77 wasn;t as good as it used to be. I was wondering how the FA50 1.4 or the 43 ltd were with the 1.5 factor. The 77 seems to lose something in the translation to digital. I haven't had the time to go off and do any formal sorts of testing, but I think the 3D qualities haven't transferred as well as I had hoped they would. The new angle of view is certainly not one I am used to, but I think it will be reasonably useful. I've had an A 50mm f/1.2 that I have never had any use for at all. Owned it since I bought into Pentax, probably 15 years now. I love it on the *ist D. Perfect size for the camera, great balance, lots of light to keep the screen nice and bright for focussing. William Robb
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Alan Chan wrote: This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? Optically, it is an okay lens imho, good but not great. The problem is that the focus ring is too narrow to use comfortably. The eBay price used to be unbelievably high, and many being tricked to believe it was rare, but should be quite a bit cheaper now. I think US$150 is a good price for a mint sample. The great thing about this lens is that it makes an MX or ME Super into about as pocketable of a 35mm SLR as you'll ever see. I never found manual focus on it to be bad...it isn't as nice to work with as a full size lens, but it is a better manual focus lens than most AF lenses. 40mm is a nice focal length too. alex
Re: correct exposure
High-end wedding photographers often do the formals with studio strobes, usually a pair of them with unbrellas quite often as outdoor fill. Yes, the candids are done with portable strobes in most cases, but that did not sound like what he original poster was asking about. J. C. O'Connell wrote: I stand by my reply. His post makes no sense. You cant really do studio strobes at weddings and receptions. His teachers must be the stupid jerks. J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: correct exposure - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: correct exposure I guess it's possible but VERY unlikely that many people would be working that way for a wedding/reception. In my experince, no matter how much I warn/persuede the bride/groom in advance, the wedding day is always hectic/fast paced and that type of slow deliberate photography is out of the question. I always used non-TTL autoflash, Fuji NPH, and one stop over (iso 200) and got nice results. To each his own I guess You stupid, bombastic jerk. Here is the original post that I was replying to. Hi All, I'm currently doing a course in wedding photography. One of the things that came up and which I forgot to ask was: we were told that the studio lights had been set for f/11 and that we should set our cameras to f/8, why is this so? Thanks, Feroze Get it? He's talking about stdio lights. As in STUDIO LIGHTS Did your mother have any children that developed intelligence? William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
I think you hit the nail right on the head, Joe. It isn't a 50mm 1.7 or 1.4, and should be thought of in quite a different light as lenses such as those two. I only used one for a couple of weeks, courtesy of Wendy, and I loved it. Not only does it's size work nicely with the MX, but I liked the fact that it focuses from about 17 inches out (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Basically, hyperfocused at f 16 or f22, it's a focus-free lens for walking about. It makes the MX a terrific street camera, due to it's inconspicuous size and looks, and that tremendous hyperfocus range. I thought it was plenty sharp, although I know some on this list think it soft. I wouldn't say soft, just not the sharpest lens ever. I think I only used it for BW, but I thought it was nicely contrasty. The focus ring doesn't bother me a bit (and I don't exactly have dainty little girly-fingers). The knurling extends to the end of the lens barrel, and I found it quite convenient to use the end of the barrel for focusing, rather than search for the tiny ring on the sides - I know I'm not doing a good job explaining (or as Ricky Ricardo would say, 'splainin') this, but hopefully you get my drift. For what it is, I think it's a bit overpriced. More than $150US isn't worth it. Seems that someone, several years ago on eBay, described it as rare, and every eBay auction since then has picked up on that. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 08:57:18 -0400 I've had two experiences with this lens, and a different attitude on my part the second time around is what made me realize its benefits. The first time I bought one, about three years ago, I used it on an ME Super. The size was wonderful, but my problem was that I was trying to use it like the 50mm f/1.7 or 50mm f/1.4 -- I was using it for available light photos indoors and was not pleased with its performance wide open. Since even the 50/1.7 performs much better than the pancake lens at f/2.8 (and can go more than a stop faster, too, of course), I felt it was always a tradeoff when I chose the 40/2.8, even when I was outdoors, since I kept thinking I could be carrying a faster lens instead. I traded the pancake at some point, but I always missed it a bit. More recently, I picked one up for a more reasonable price and this time, I had two MXes and a different attitude. While the lens hadn't changed, I now appreciate its tremendous compactness and I don't take it along when I think I'm going to be shooting at f/2 or focusing in dim light. But it delivers very nice performance at most apertures, and seems fine at f/4 too, and even f/2.8 will do in a pinch if that's all you have. But it's no slower than Pentax's 28mm f/2.8 and 24mm f/2.8 lenses, and it's faster than the screwmount 35mm, 28mm, and 24mm f/3.5 lenses I've had. So it's really all a matter of perspective. It's a great walkaround lens, it gives the camera a different balance (it tips a little bit backward instead of forward -- the balance in the hand is more like a rangefinder!), and it has the 40mm focal length, which really is a nice compromise between the 35 and 50. It has the SMC coatings, doesn't need a lens hood and delivers nice saturated results. $125-$150 for one in nice condition is about right. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: *Ist D and Windows
IIRCC, 98 did not have USB capability, 98SE definitely does. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: *Ist D and Windows I use Windows 98 SE and want to continue using it. According to the BH web site, that is just fine for the *Ist D. Pentax's web site says, no, you gotta have ME, 2000, or XP. The software manual states this: In Windows 95/98/NT, you cannot conduct file transfers via USB cable or use Pentax Remote Assistant. The camera manual doesn't say anything about OS requirements. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?)
Thanks for clearing that one up Bill! Ryan - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Is my MZ-6 a plastic toy? (was: Has Pentax missed again?) All Pentax autofocus cameras support snap in focus. Bill
Re: Has Pentax missed again?
That is what digital hasn't got. It, in my opinion, comes from the fine nuances of shading you get with film and not with digital. William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: RE: Has Pentax missed again? The FA*24 and 77ltd don't give me an fov that suits me ibn the ist either - and they are my fave lenses *sigh* Disappointing isn't it. Something that is really dissapointing, my 77 doesn't have that 3D quality that I found so enticing when used on the digital. William Robb -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Which 50mm? (was Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8)
Thanks everyone for the input! Just lately I've been somewhat attracted to the compactness of it. Lots more subtle than a 28-70 2.8 (don't need a 70-200 2.8 to intimidate people). Pity it's not AF.. Another query which definitely has been asked before (This should all be archived somewhere shouldn't it..) which AF 50mm's best optically, how much, and roughly how often on Ebay (or where else would I get one..) Thx! Ryan - Original Message - From: Joe Wilensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8 I've had two experiences with this lens, and a different attitude on my part the second time around is what made me realize its benefits. The first time I bought one, about three years ago, I used it on an ME Super. The size was wonderful, but my problem was that I was trying to use it like the 50mm f/1.7 or 50mm f/1.4 -- I was using it for available light photos indoors and was not pleased with its performance wide open. Since even the 50/1.7 performs much better than the pancake lens at f/2.8 (and can go more than a stop faster, too, of course), I felt it was always a tradeoff when I chose the 40/2.8, even when I was outdoors, since I kept thinking I could be carrying a faster lens instead. I traded the pancake at some point, but I always missed it a bit. More recently, I picked one up for a more reasonable price and this time, I had two MXes and a different attitude. While the lens hadn't changed, I now appreciate its tremendous compactness and I don't take it along when I think I'm going to be shooting at f/2 or focusing in dim light. But it delivers very nice performance at most apertures, and seems fine at f/4 too, and even f/2.8 will do in a pinch if that's all you have. But it's no slower than Pentax's 28mm f/2.8 and 24mm f/2.8 lenses, and it's faster than the screwmount 35mm, 28mm, and 24mm f/3.5 lenses I've had. So it's really all a matter of perspective. It's a great walkaround lens, it gives the camera a different balance (it tips a little bit backward instead of forward -- the balance in the hand is more like a rangefinder!), and it has the 40mm focal length, which really is a nice compromise between the 35 and 50. It has the SMC coatings, doesn't need a lens hood and delivers nice saturated results. $125-$150 for one in nice condition is about right. Joe This has probably been asked before, but I was wondering how good this lens (SMC M pancake 40mm 2.8) is and what it's worth.. Any experiences to share? Optically, it is an okay lens imho, good but not great. The problem is that the focus ring is too narrow to use comfortably. The eBay price used to be unbelievably high, and many being tricked to believe it was rare, but should be quite a bit cheaper now. I think US$150 is a good price for a mint sample. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Joe Wilensky Staff Writer Communication and Marketing Services 1150 Comstock Hall Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853-2601 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 607-255-1575 fax: 607-255-9873
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
Hi Everyone, I have the Tamron 90mm f2.8 AF macro and it looks great even wide open. By the way it's almost as sharp as the 77mm Pentax at f2.8 when magnified up with Photoshop. But my Pentax A 50mm f1.7 is the sharpest of all my lenses. It wins out over the 77mm slightly. I would say those are my three sharpest lenses. I'm surprised my Pentax A 50mm f1.7 is noticeably better than my Pentax FA 50mm f1.4. Guess what, TIFFs aren't as sharp as JPGs, but Raw images win over JPGs. Sincerely, Ryan __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Graveyard
I am off to the local graveyard with some models for a night shoot. I will be taking an electric generator and 2 x 400W studio lights. I was thinking to use them with 2-3 stops of difference for effect. Any tips etc for this sort of thing? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
Rob wrote: RS as an aliasing artifact on the high contrast boarder. It looks like it may be a RS combination of adjacent pixel spill (due to the high contrast transition) and RS the lens aberrations. The 100/2.8 Macro being too contrasty for the sensor? Maybe that's all there is about FAJ - lowered contrast for digital compatibility!? ;o) Now seriously, if it were for the chromatic aberrations then we should have seen blue outer edges and red inner edges (with respect to the frame center). And it's still too close to the center for colour fringe - certainly the lens is much better corrected than that. I believe this is an exclusively digital artifact. Servus, Alin RS I would have thought that the FA100/2.8 macro would have been pretty well RS corrected for chromatic aberrations? I'd be keen to try my Voigtländer Macro RS APO-Lanthar 125mm F2.5 SL, I might get a chance when I meet with Christian next RS week.
Re: Graveyard
Hi, Kevin, Around here, graveyards close their gates at dusk. Have you permission to be there at night? I'd hate to see you there with models, lights, cameras and all, only to find you can't shoot. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Graveyard Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:20:48 +1000 I am off to the local graveyard with some models for a night shoot. I will be taking an electric generator and 2 x 400W studio lights. I was thinking to use them with 2-3 stops of difference for effect. Any tips etc for this sort of thing? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
I only used one for a couple of weeks, courtesy of Wendy, and I loved it. Not only does it's size work nicely with the MX, but I liked the fact that it focuses from about 17 inches out (someone correct me if I'm wrong). You called, Frank? g From Boz's site - it focuses down to 0,6 m - that's almost two feet for those metrically challenged :-) And that's exactly what I don't like about it (from reading about it on the internet). I always wondered why my brother's Nikkor 50/1.8 focused down only to 0,6 m. I really love the ability to shoot detail with a Pentax 50 mm - focusing down to 0,45 m. Still, I'd like to own one for some time, if only just to be able to see the 40 mm focal lenght throught the viewfinder - so far my only experience with a 40 mm lens has been with fixed lens rangefinders. Yes, I know - it's in the photos, but still, I'd rerally like to be able to look throught the viewfinder and see exactly what the lens sees_before_ realising the shutter. Regards, ukasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] === www.fotopolis.pl === internetowy magazyn o fotografii
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
Says something about Pop Photo. However, it upholds my opinion of US photo magazines; What a waste of good paper. Bill Owens wrote: The same question was written up in the current Pop Photo. Their response: A 24mm lens on a 1.5 digital is the equivalent of a 36mm lens in all respects. No ifs, ands or buts. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
*ist D another review
This time in Digital Camera Magazine; Rated as a best buy. Snip 'this camera's features and design set new SLR standards' 'Features 97% Images 90% Build 92% Value 92% Final score 94%' Copyright Future Publishing Ltd 2003 Regards, Ziggy
Re: Fall colors
The fall colours are pretty dull here in Toronto as well. Apparently, they're quite spectacular a couple of hours north of here in the Muskokas. I understand that what makes the colours vibrant and long lasting, is a large differential between nightime lows and daytime highs. We haven't had that here. It was cool days and evenings, then last week, warm days and evenings. Up north, apparently they had the right mix. I don't think rainfall has as much to do with it as temperature. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fall colors Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:45:52 + Very short fall here in Chicago too...mostly last weekend. We had little color last Sunday, but peak by Friday/Saturday. Then Sunday, the trees lost half their leaves. Quite odd... Regards, Bob S. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: List hiccups
If you are getting all the messages twice you are probably double subscribed. If you are getting all the messages from a particular person twice they are probably double subscribed. If you are getting a few messages here and there, it could be a list problem, or a problem at the senders end, or a problem with deleting messages on your mail server (in order of increasing probability). Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
*ist D yet another review
www.megapixel.net/reviews/pentax-ist/pentaxist-review.html Regards, Ziggy
Re: correct exposure (how to shoot weddings, etc.)
The trouble with the every wedding photog I know does this argument is that everyone's wedding pictures end up looking everyone else's. (From what I've seen of Tom V's, however, his are clearly above the cut.) Fortunately, I've only shot weddings when the people involved wanted to avoid the stilted plastic look that so many posed wedding photos have and who want the photographer to be inconspicuous for most of the day. I have to disagree that the most important thing in the wedding is the wedding dress... what sort of shallow clients do you guys have? The most important thing is to capture the loving expressions on the bride and groom and the joy of the event reflected in those who have come to the event. That being said, I'll lend my full support to one stop over for neg film most of the time :) I'm a bit scrappy this morning annsan
*ist D cards and rechargeable batteries
There was a question about which to use, most will do, I ended up getting; Lexar 1GB WA 40X Pro card, this give 243 high quality JPEG and 70 RAW ANSMANN DIGISPEED 4 Charger (1 hour) with ANSMANN 2200mAh NiMH batteries. Regards, Ziggy
Re: Fall colors
There were some nice areas when i was driving up to and back from Madawaska this past wekend,however very little red this year.Lots of yellow and gold though. Big winds on Sundays rain blew a lot off the trees. I received my 2 rolls of MF E100vs back last night,and to add a comment re the slide vs film thread of last week,Peter is correct in the latitude comments. The best exposures were from the incident and spot meter readings.Those readings from the on board meter of the 6x7 were under exposed by several stops,as i thought they might,but i wanted to experiment a bit to see what gave the best results. Did manage a few which would be PUG and or general list worthy.:-) I thought i may have ruined the one shot i was hoping would turn out but all is mostly ok. One thing i still have problems with the 6x7 is film advance at the rolls end. I have a tendency to not roll the film to its end right a way and twice it has cost me a shot or two.This time i started to advance,stopped and drove on.When i opened the camera,there was the dreaded paper over the shutter still. Only lost one end of shot 10 and a bit on the bottom of shot 9.Its cropablevbg Colours look great on the E100vs BTW Dave The fall colours are pretty dull here in Toronto as well. Apparently, they're quite spectacular a couple of hours north of here in the Muskokas. I understand that what makes the colours vibrant and long lasting, is a large differential between nightime lows and daytime highs. We haven't had that here. It was cool days and evenings, then last week, warm days and evenings. Up north, apparently they had the right mix. I don't think rainfall has as much to do with it as temperature. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fall colors Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:45:52 + Very short fall here in Chicago too...mostly last weekend. We had little color last Sunday, but peak by Friday/Saturday. Then Sunday, the trees lost half their leaves. Quite odd... Regards, Bob S. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: List hiccups
I seem to not be getting some of the newer threads,like the fall colour one and several others. I have responded to the responses.:-) Dave If you are getting all the messages twice you are probably double subscribed. If you are getting all the messages from a particular person twice they are probably double subscribed. If you are getting a few messages here and there, it could be a list problem, or a problem at the senders end, or a problem with deleting messages on your mail server (in order of increasing probability). Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
RE: correct exposure
JCO posted: I stand by my reply. His post makes no sense. You cant really do studio strobes at weddings and receptions. His teachers must be the stupid jerks. Don't some wedding photographers do bridal portraits (somtimes in the studio) ahead of time? Maybe that's what his teachers are up to with the studio lights component.
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
Hi, Lukasz, I don't doubt your (or Boz') figures. I thought it was closer, but what do I know? g My point, I guess, is that for street shooting, hyperfocusing from 2 feet to infinity gives one pretty good focus-free range, and that makes the MX/Pancake combo very good for street shooting or candids. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: £ukasz Kacperczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 16:15:02 +0200 You called, Frank? g From Boz's site - it focuses down to 0,6 m - that's almost two feet for those metrically challenged :-) And that's exactly what I don't like about it (from reading about it on the internet). I always wondered why my brother's Nikkor 50/1.8 focused down only to 0,6 m. I really love the ability to shoot detail with a Pentax 50 mm - focusing down to 0,45 m. Still, I'd like to own one for some time, if only just to be able to see the 40 mm focal lenght throught the viewfinder - so far my only experience with a 40 mm lens has been with fixed lens rangefinders. Yes, I know - it's in the photos, but still, I'd rerally like to be able to look throught the viewfinder and see exactly what the lens sees_before_ realising the shutter. Regards, ³ukasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] === www.fotopolis.pl === internetowy magazyn o fotografii _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
RE: List hiccups
Same here, just seen one from Rob about another review after I posted the same URL Ziggy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: List hiccups I seem to not be getting some of the newer threads,like the fall colour one and several others. I have responded to the responses.:-) Dave If you are getting all the messages twice you are probably double subscribed. If you are getting all the messages from a particular person twice they are probably double subscribed. If you are getting a few messages here and there, it could be a list problem, or a problem at the senders end, or a problem with deleting messages on your mail server (in order of increasing probability). Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris -- graywolf
RE: I got my *ist D and I STILL LOVE IT !!!
Hi Dario, How can you judge the image sharpness on the *ist D until you change the setting to maximum sharpness? That's the first setting I changed since I like things nice and sharp, then I tone it down in Photoshop if need be. Sincerely, Ryan Charron Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:39:35 -0400 From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try it by increasing the sharpness level in the camera. It seems to work okay for me, and all you've got to lose is a little bit of battery charge. Bill - Original Message - From: Dario Bonazza 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! No, I make unsharp masking in Photoshop, not in camera. Dario - Original Message - From: Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 2:24 AM Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! Have you changed the sharpness in the camera to maximum from medium? Bill __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Zenit 16mm Fisheye *istD
Just went out on the front porch and took this shot with the *istD. Camera on manual, ISO200, f/11, 1/500 per Gossen Digisix meter. http://groups.msn.com/BillOwensPhotos/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhotoPhotoID=42 Comments? Bill
RE: List hiccups
I seem to commonly get replies to posts BEFORE I see the original they replied to! I got your one about the review at 15:43GMT, but mine at 13:50!! I also occasionally (maybe 2-3 times per day) get a post which I had already received some time before. Weird Stuff! -Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 15:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: List hiccups Same here, just seen one from Rob about another review after I posted the same URL Ziggy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 11:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: List hiccups I seem to not be getting some of the newer threads,like the fall colour one and several others. I have responded to the responses.:-) Dave If you are getting all the messages twice you are probably double subscribed. If you are getting all the messages from a particular person twice they are probably double subscribed. If you are getting a few messages here and there, it could be a list problem, or a problem at the senders end, or a problem with deleting messages on your mail server (in order of increasing probability). Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris -- graywolf
RE: Nice review for istD
-Original Message- From: Rob Brigham Sent: 15 October 2003 13:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nice review for istD http://www.megapixel.net/reviews/pentax-ist/pentaxist-review.html They don't seem to report the aberrations that Jostein found with the 100mm macro. Is this a lens sample issue, or have they just not looked close enough? Hard to tell from the examples they give... Good writeup for Pentax though! Rob, List is going mad, this turned up after I posted the same review. Ziggy
RE: List hiccups
I get that all the time: See replies to ~my~ posts, before my posts come up! It's a bit disquieting. Apparently, it may have more to do with your server than the list, or so I'm told. I also notice that from time to time, some posts of mine come on list almost instantaneously, and others take quite a while, up to an hour. Again, server issue, not list issue. I can't remember who told me that, but they were much more knowledgeable than me about such things... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: zoomshot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: List hiccups Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:58:30 +0100 Same here, just seen one from Rob about another review after I posted the same URL _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
Re: Slide vs Film
At 01:27 PM 10/9/2003 -0500, Patrick Wunsch wrote: Sorry to be so winded so I'll get to my point. What does it take to switch to color slide and be able to enjoy the results? I am completely illiterate as to how you turn color slides into jpgs or any type of viewable picture for that matter. Is it worth the switch? What kind and how much of an investment in equipiment can I expect to have to make? I'm not sure is I want to give up the convenience of being able to look at a fisnished product like you can with film. Last Sunday I went out shooting fall colors, still a week to 10 days off peak, and pulled the slide film from my cameras and went with print. Slide and print film have their advantages and disadvantages, and it's just a matter of picking the right film for the job. I really don't think you can tell much about a photo's technical competence from a website display. they are just too small. You can make judgements about the composition and essentials like that. But you don't get hit with grain and sharpness problems on 650 x 480 jpgs! The thing with slide film is that it is much less forgiving on exposure changes than print film, so you have to be pretty much on target with your exposure. The catch 22 is that you really can't learn how to do that with print film. Most slide films will show a difference with just a 1/2 stop change in exposure, and mis-exposing by a stop can really hurt a slide exposure. With color negatives, it's almost impossible to see a half stop difference in the film, and exposure variances of a full stop can usually be corrected when making prints. So when you make the jump to slides, you have to be patient and work out those exposure problems and also know when to bracket. The are advantages to shooting slides. Slower slide films (ISO 100 and less) scan sharper than print film of the same speed and exhibit less grain. When you need fine detail and razor sharpness, you really need slow slide film. Slide film is also easier to color correct than print film - no need to cancel out an orange mask and invert the colors. I've read over and over that publishers prefer slide film over print film, but that point seems to be pretty irrelevant nowadays when most publishers want digital output. In my experience, I've had a few publishers (usually in the hard core sciences) who demand film, and they have said that they'd like slide film over print but will take either. I think they are more concerned about being certain that there is no digital alteration of the photo. The biggest drawback with slide film is that it has a very narrow exposure latitude. I shot print film this weekend because it is a gorgeous sunny clear fall day, and slide film would just choke on the contrast out there. The other drawback with slide film lies in the unforgiving nature of it's exposure range. If you are shooting a fast moving event with rapidly changing lighting, print film gives you a little more of a buffer against errors. At higher speeds, print film has a lot of advantages. When exposing negatives, the general rule is to expose to assure that the shadows don't block up, and deal with the highlights when printing. Slides are more or less the opposite - blown outhighlights have no retrievable date, but you can get a fair amount out of the shadows. So exposre for the highlights and deal with the shadows later. One last comment - IMO a major pitfall of slides is the idea that the slide _is_ the finished product, which actually is the case when slides are shot to be projected. Print film is inherently a two step process. I think Ansel Adams commented that the negative was like the music score and the print was the performance of that score. With slides there's a tendancy to take something and figure that's it, but with scanning and digital 'darkroom' techniques, the slide itself is just the beginning. HTH- MCC - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI - Photography: http://www.markcassino.com
*ist D another review
This time in Digital Camera Magazine; Rated as a best buy. Snip 'this camera's features and design set new SLR standards' 'Features 97% Images 90% Build 92% Value 92% Final score 94%' Copyright Future Publishing Ltd 2003 Regards, Ziggy
RE: I got my *ist D and I STILL LOVE IT !!!
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Ryan Charron wrote: How can you judge the image sharpness on the *ist D until you change the setting to maximum sharpness? That's the first setting I changed since I like things nice and sharp, then I tone it down in Photoshop if need be. The sharpness control in the camera is software, not hardware. If you tone it down later you will get worse results then if you shoot soft and increase sharpness in Photoshop. You can see this if you go into Photoshop and increase shaprness and then try to remove it. Adding sharpness usually increases any digital noise and when you take it too far it can create halos and other artifacts around areas of high contrast. alex
RE: correct exposure
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JCO posted: I stand by my reply. His post makes no sense. You cant really do studio strobes at weddings and receptions. His teachers must be the stupid jerks. Don't some wedding photographers do bridal portraits (somtimes in the studio) ahead of time? Maybe that's what his teachers are up to with the studio lights component. Normally you have to use a big light or 2 for formals at the altar. JCO's vast experience notwithstanding, a 400 or 800 WS strobe and a 5 foot umbrella makes a *vast* improvement over anything you could do with a small ttl flash. For a while I just used a 500FTZ and told myself they didn't hire me for formals, but after a while I realized it just wasn't cutting it. Strobes are also used at the reception. Normally I like to bounce ttl off the ceiling, but if the ceiling is taller than about 30 feet, or has a weird color, I'll set up a strobe or 2 and direct them at the dance floor. These are not unusual practices. tv
RE: *ist D another review
I just got this one twice. First one was sent at 15:29, the second at 16:14. This aint my end because they have different send times on them. -Original Message- From: zoomshot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 16:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ist D another review This time in Digital Camera Magazine; Rated as a best buy. Snip 'this camera's features and design set new SLR standards' 'Features 97% Images 90% Build 92% Value 92% Final score 94%' Copyright Future Publishing Ltd 2003 Regards, Ziggy
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
I don't doubt your (or Boz') figures. I thought it was closer, but what do I know? g No more mean comments from me today, so I'll pass :-) My point, I guess, is that for street shooting, hyperfocusing from 2 feet to infinity gives one pretty good focus-free range, and that makes the MX/Pancake combo very good for street shooting or candids. I agree. regards, ukasz concise as usual
Re: Newbie to list has K1000 questions
I have two.May be i can help. Dave We love the K1000. It even takes K and M lenses. Our Motto: As long as Pentax makes it, we'll find something to complain about. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/03 03:28PM Hello all Does this list cover all things Pentax, including the old K1000? If so, I'll get my questions ready. If not, would someone be good enough to direct me to a more appropriate list? Thanks in advance. Mike
Re: List hiccups
Hi! On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:59:30 +0100 Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to commonly get replies to posts BEFORE I see the original they replied to! I got your one about the review at 15:43GMT, but mine at 13:50!! I also occasionally (maybe 2-3 times per day) get a post which I had already received some time before. Weird Stuff! Recalling recent response of Mr Robb to someone who were trying to unsubscribe, I am afraid it would be safe to assume that time axis of PDML continuum is not straight... VBG Resistance if futile. You will be assimilated. VBG Boris
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Steve Desjardins wrote: What's the sharpest aperature for this lens? any opinions? http://phred.org/pentax/lensgal/m40_28/m40_28.html has tests from this lens if you want to judge for yourself. It looks pretty soft at f2.8, better at f4, and pretty good at f5.6 and f8. The Lens Gallery is a useful resource for comparing lenses. I don't think it is maintained anymore (if it is then it got moved and no one told me), but my old mirror of it is at http://phred.org/pentax/lensgal/ alex
Re: *IstD price in Italy
On 15 Oct 2003, Frits Wüthrich wrote: Yesterday I asked my photoshop around the corner here in the Netherlands, and they ask 2199 euro's for it, ridiculous. I have one on order with Peter from sunny Brighton since 16 Sept, but he doesn't respond to me when I requested him for a status update. I wonder if he got fed up with my questions or is just too busy trying to get hold of one for me? Does anyone have experience with New York Camera in Germany? http://www.ny-camera.net/language/english/index.htm Well, you could consider small and cheap trip to Poland - here *istD is 1850 Euro, but you could probably use TAXfree formular and get back about 15% (I am not sure of exact value) off this price - that would be about 1600 Euro. -- Best regards Sylwek
RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel
That's a good point, I suppose - I could bracket 3 jpgs and still end up using less storage than the single RAW file!! Then again you are bound to find the odd one where you prefer the timing of the one with the worst exposure! I have been looking some more at shots where the contrast between the sky and ground is too high to capture, and finding that I can create 2 files from the RAW - one for sky and one for ground and merge the best bits. This wont work with 2 bracketed shots unless your camera is VERY stable in between. RAW seems to allow for an extra 3 stops in either direction which is actually pretty massive. -Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 11:05 To: pentax list Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel On 14/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Right, I have done this test (http://www.calcot.plus.com/RAWTest/) I found no obvious difference between the original RAW and JPG images, so for the rest of the test I used a jpg created from the RAW file with no adjustments whatsoever, so that I know the two methods have exactly the same start point in terms of exposure etc. [snip] Very good Rob. Boy, you're a stickler for the detail ;-) but you did say that you are. I'll now have to do some of my own tests, although my final image is an inkjet print, and I would expect that shooting jpeg will still be the way I go because I have yet to experience a poor exposure on the camera. If in doubt, I bracket anyway. At the end of the day I'm limited to the resolution of the printer and although it is excellent, not enough I fear to make a difference between RAW and jpeg originals. The advantage for me with jpeg is greater in that I can fit more on a card and extracting and processing RAW files on my system is slow. I'll do some tests this weekend. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: *IstD price in Italy
onsdag, 15. oktober 2003, kl. 02:23, graywolf: Did you guys know that they claim the Appalachians are the oldest mountains in the world. They say they averaged 25,000 feet when they were young and now are worn down to mostly less than 6,000. They say the same about parts of Scotland and Norway, but I guess that i correct. They were parts of the same mountain range long ago, before the Atlantic ocean was made... :-) DagT
Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!!
Looks like the chromatic aberrations common to ps digitals: http://www.dpreview.com/learn/Glossary/Optical/Chromatic_Aberrations_01.htm chris On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: I got my *ist D and I LOVE IT !!! http://home.online.no/~jooksne/istd_aberr.htm There also seems to be some blue fringing on the vertical part of the railing, where it contrasts with the white foam of the stream. This is also visible on the top of the lower horizontal rail. Ain't aliasing a wonderful thing? William Robb
Re: correct exposure
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: My stupid jerk teacher is 85 by the way, has been doing this for 60 years, and still focuses a MF camera manually. Hey, did you know that I can focus my manual focus lenses automatically? Sure, I pick up the lens, put my hand on it and I just automatically turn it with my fingers until it's nice and crisp in the viewfinder! Works every time. *~* Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Newbie to list has K1000 questions
Even though he has gone over towhite plastic lenses and odd lens mounts,his pentax site is still the best going.vbg Lots of info here. http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/ Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/14/03 03:28PM Hello all Does this list cover all things Pentax, including the old K1000? If so, I'll get my questions ready. If not, would someone be good enough to direct me to a more appropriate list? Thanks in advance. Mike
Re: List hiccups
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris Hi! PDML has a flu. It seems to re-send some (all) of the messages from the most recent past. Anyone else experiencing it? Boris No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes. ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
gemini macro converter
I see an auction for a Gemini macro converter ending in another 1 hour (around 10:30 am pacific time) but dont if it is any good. Any views? I am looking for a macro converter for less than $40 so this sounded good though based on your recommendations, I am really looking for a Vivitar 2x Macro TC. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2956576352category=15240 Also, I apologize if such a question about an ebay item is considered out of the mailing list norms. Please let me know so that I dont make the same mistake again. Gaurav
RE: Old lenses and *ist D
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bucky wrote: What interests me is how the hell you clean the sensor when the inevitable happens and something gets stuck to it We sell things called sensor swabs. They're supposed to have been packaged in sterile rooms by 21 year old virgins or something like that. Open the package, swipe one across your sensor *only once*, and repeat with another package if necessary. Never used them myself, as I don't have a DSLR yet. chris
Re: Nice review for istD
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: http://www.megapixel.net/reviews/pentax-ist/pentaxist-review.html Is it just me or does that grip on the *ist D look like it might also attach to another Pentax DSLR in the future? I wouldn't have said that it looks 100% made to measure. It's probably quite appropriate for Pentax to keep future versions of the *ist D to a similar size Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Graveyard
On 15/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: am off to the local graveyard with some models for a night shoot. I will be taking an electric generator and 2 x 400W studio lights. I was thinking to use them with 2-3 stops of difference for effect. Any tips etc for this sort of thing? Carry a silver cross, a large mallet and a bunch of wooden stakes. Can't be too careful Good luck on the shoot! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy)
If you want a driver for your computer, the printer I'll be bringing is an Epson 925. Bill - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 5:54 AM Subject: GFM gear (was: Re: *IstD price in Italy) On 14/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: And I plan on having a printer to print some of these digi files. Are you bringing a computer? If not, let me know which printer and I'll make sure I have the appropriate driver installed... Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Where was the first ist-D?
The first LX was available in Sweden, iirc. Who stocked the first ist-D? CRB
Re: gemini macro converter
Gaurav, IMHO, from what I can see on the auction page this TC does not do macro. Since you were interested in macro, I am afraid it would not suit you... HTH. Boris
Re: List hiccups
That is true, Frank. Some ISPs do not process mail as received but batch process it every so many minutes. That is how it was done back in the days of uucp, but it takes awhile for some of these folks to catch up (grin). How you have your mail client setup has an effect on it. How the internet routes the messages has an effect. I have seen messages from nearby routed all the way around the world to me. There are simply so many varibles in the way the internet works it is hard to say why things work out as they do. frank theriault wrote: I get that all the time: See replies to ~my~ posts, before my posts come up! It's a bit disquieting. Apparently, it may have more to do with your server than the list, or so I'm told. I also notice that from time to time, some posts of mine come on list almost instantaneously, and others take quite a while, up to an hour. Again, server issue, not list issue. I can't remember who told me that, but they were much more knowledgeable than me about such things... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: zoomshot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: List hiccups Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 15:58:30 +0100 Same here, just seen one from Rob about another review after I posted the same URL _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: Fall colors
Same problem here. VA is never as spectacular as NE since the temp. difference is not as extreme, but this year had been particularly mild. Drat. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/03 10:34AM The fall colours are pretty dull here in Toronto as well. Apparently, they're quite spectacular a couple of hours north of here in the Muskokas. I understand that what makes the colours vibrant and long lasting, is a large differential between nightime lows and daytime highs. We haven't had that here. It was cool days and evenings, then last week, warm days and evenings. Up north, apparently they had the right mix. I don't think rainfall has as much to do with it as temperature. cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fall colors Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 01:45:52 + Very short fall here in Chicago too...mostly last weekend. We had little color last Sunday, but peak by Friday/Saturday. Then Sunday, the trees lost half their leaves. Quite odd... Regards, Bob S. _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Pancake SMC-M 40mm 2.8
Someplace around 8.0, if I recall correctly. Guess I could dig out the test slides and check, but I tend to be lazy... I think it is after all a classic 2.8 tessar with a slightly wide field which would indicate you need to stop it down at least 3 stops for it to be seriously sharp. Steve Desjardins wrote: What's the sharpest aperature for this lens? any opinions? Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
RE: correct exposure
Previously written: Actually, a stupid jerk is someone who does all his formals with a little ttl flash on camera. You really can, and many really do, use big strobes at weddings, myself included. Back when I was working weddings we would use 400ws Lumedynes. You can do a lot with 2 lights. I have heard of photographers using monolights and bringing a background. Better them then me although we used to do environmental portraits between the wedding and the reception. I suppose it would be no harder to set up a background and a couple of monolights in a spare room at the reception hall. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
