geoff wrote:
Wait until the 70% start getting asked to 'show their papers' and see how
they feel. Not that that is the point. Some things are wrong regardless of
popularity or support. Hitler was popular. The holocaust had community
support.
The 'land of the free' just lost a little more
It is the method of enforcement that people are objecting to. It is the
'show your papers' for no reason that ought to concern you.
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I often do, but I am not required to do so.
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geoff wrote:
Wait until the 70%
geoff wrote:
It is the method of enforcement that people are objecting to. It is the
'show your papers' for no reason that ought to concern you.
Hi Geoff,
The cops actually ask for your driver's license. You give it to them.
They tell you why they stopped you and then usually let you go with
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote:
geoff wrote:
Wait until the 70% start getting asked to 'show their papers' and see how
they feel. Not that that is the point. Some things are wrong regardless of
popularity or support. Hitler was popular. The holocaust
geoff wrote:
I often do, but I am not required to do so.
Hi Geoff,
Well, come to think of it, we aren't required to carry our license, but
we are required to *have* a license if we are driving. With your name
and address the officer can call up a copy of your license on his
computer. Of
Paul Hill wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote:
geoff wrote:
Wait until the 70% start getting asked to 'show their papers' and see how
they feel. Not that that is the point. Some things are wrong regardless of
popularity or support. Hitler was
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On May 5, 2010, at 11:01 PM, John Harvey wrote:
Yep, but that law would never have been considered if the federal govt (Bush
or Obama) had secured the borders. Now, we are inundated with illegals, many
of which are violent criminals. This is why 70% of the people in
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:05 PM, geoff data...@adam.com.au wrote:
Wait until the 70% start getting asked to 'show their papers' and see how
they feel. Not that that is the point. Some things are wrong regardless of
popularity or support. Hitler was popular. The holocaust had community
support.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Pete Theisen petethei...@verizon.net wrote:
Paul Hill wrote:
I'm voting tonight. I won't be carrying ID nor will I be asked for it.
Hi Paul,
Dang, how many parties do you have?
http://leoblogger.com/uk-election-2010-final-campaign.html/11626/
Realistically
you're kidding me?
You believe it is ok for people to come here illegally?
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There would be blood in the streets
where exactly in the constitution does it say that people can enter our
country illegally?
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On May 5, 2010, at
Well Spoken..
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Why let the facts stand in the way of a good story.
AB 1070 does not now, nor did it ever,
http://bit.ly/99BC04
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Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response
to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the
Interior chief of staff Tom Strickland was in the Grand Canyon with
his wife last week participating in activities that included
Michael Oke, II wrote:
I prefer to support the buycott of Arizona.
::michael
John Harvey wrote:
Yep, but that law would never have been considered if the federal govt (Bush
or Obama) had secured the borders. Now, we are inundated with illegals, many
of which are violent criminals.
Virgil BIerschwale wrote:
you're kidding me?
You believe it is ok for people to come here illegally?
LOL
Do you believe it's ok for money and goods to circulate freely
throughout the world? But people should not? Does money and goods
deserve more rights than people?
Virgil BIerschwale wrote:
where exactly in the constitution does it say that people can enter our
country illegally?
LOL, what a stupid question!
Where exactly *in the constitution* does it say they can't?
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On May 6, 2010, at 1:12 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
The issue of being able to produce ID when asked by a duly sworn officer
of the law is meaningless?
Yes. If I am operating a motor vehicle on public roads, I must have my
license and registration. If I am walking down a public
ask yourself the same question.
Should all these people come to your country and break your laws and use all
your resources without contributing?
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Virgil BIerschwale wrote:
ask yourself the same question.
Should all these people come to your country and break your laws and use all
your resources without contributing?
Of course they should!
You are not thinking properly.
If they get hold of resources it is because someone is giving
On May 6, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Virgil BIerschwale wrote:
Should all these people come to your country and break your laws and use all
your resources without contributing?
Without contributing? Are you serious?
You probably couldn't afford to eat if it weren't for those people.
actually I have been doing work like that to survive..
as a matter of fact, I even know two people in my former industry that work
nearby in san antonio and are actively looking for help.
However, probably for political differences, people like myself will never
be interviewed in that
Publius Maximus wrote:
http://bit.ly/99BC04
Hi Bob,
Nivo Slider? Tommy Strickland wrote that? You are right, Obama does hate
black people?
Though his agency was charged with coordinating the federal response
to the major oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, Department of the
Interior chief of
Paul,
I agree about not having anything biometric. While I do like the fact that
people have to carry an id in the US, I don't want the govt. tracking
citizens. I am listed as other in our local voters registration database
for just that reason. I'm astounded by the logic some use whereby they
You are right. My reasons are enforcing the laws and when I get questioned
by another officer, I show my ID.
John Harvey
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On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:33 AM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote:
Paul,
I agree about not having anything biometric. While I do like the fact that
people have to carry an id in the US, I don't want the govt. tracking
citizens. I am listed as other in our local voters registration
The bar hasn't been lowered at all but, by all means, keep repeating
that if it makes you feel better.
You can be asked to produce ID even if you are just sitting in a public
park, if the officer has a reasonable expectation that you are or have
committed a crime.
In Arizona, under this law,
Paul,
I am going to make the leap that you are citizen of the UK, what do
their (your) requirements state about non-citizens that are authorized
to be in the country? Whether for business or personal reasons.
::michael
Paul Hill wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Pete Theisen
Ed Leafe wrote:
On May 6, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
AB 1070 does not now, nor did it ever, allow the police to stop a person
just because they looked Mexican. It does permit them to assess the
immigration status of someone that they come lawfully into contact with.
How does your country legislate people wanting to enter? Are they
allowed to come and go as they please?
People allowed to freely circulate throughout the world? Sounds vaguely
like a one world government. Now where have I read about that before ...
::michael
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Virgil
Sure there are people that are giving these resources to them and they
expect something in return but that hardly makes it right, either for
people born in this country or those that followed the laws and legally
earned the right to be here (or there, depending on where you are when
you read
What an absolute load of liberal bullshit. I am so glad that I put my
boots on this morning because it's obvious that I needed them. It's a
constant talking point, here anyhow, about how the costs of foods would
rise if the farmers couldn't use illegals to harvest and it's a load.
Might
I would ALSO like to go! It would be nice to meet up with some of my
fellow VFP developers.
The last Fox conference I attended was EONS Ago! As it was back when Fox
SW existed, and the president of Fox SW first unveiled FPD. Which - at
that time - was pretty exciting indeed! And, back then - I
On May 6, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
The bar hasn't been lowered at all but, by all means, keep repeating
that if it makes you feel better.
You can be asked to produce ID even if you are just sitting in a public
park, if the officer has a reasonable expectation that you are
Your logic escapes me, Ed. An illegal alien is an illegal alien. So now why
are you justifying that fact with the bleeding heart liberal attitude that
illegals are just fine and Arizona's law is unconstitutional? You then jump
to the conclusion that Arizona is a police state and will be using
Geoff, you have no idea what is going on in Arizona and now you are
pontificating about how bad Americans are. Geez, all you have to do is look
at what your country did when your Navy forced boatloads of immigrants back
to the ocean when they tried to land in Australia last year. Many perished
On May 6, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
Detained actually. While you don't always have ID you do have access to
it do you not?
Oh, yes: detained. That's so much more pleasant.
Maybe I do have access to it, and maybe I don't. It shouldn't matter.
It's not
Michael Oke, II wrote:
How does your country legislate people wanting to enter? Are they
allowed to come and go as they please?
Yes, they have to go through some bureaucracy and they are allowed to
work here.
People allowed to freely circulate throughout the world? Sounds vaguely
like
I hope the boycott of Arizona doesn't hurt the conference; I already
heard of one that has been canceled, and another that was moved because of
the backlash against the Arizona state government.
Naturally I am hopeful it won't affect Southwest Fox too.
Which conference was canceled?
I know of
On May 6, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:
Naturally I am hopeful it won't affect Southwest Fox too.
Which conference was canceled?
IIRC, it was a social media conference scheduled for July. They had
more than half of their attendees withdraw (the law was passed before the
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Sure there are people that are giving these resources to them and they
expect something in return but that hardly makes it right, either for
people born in this country or those that followed the laws and legally
earned the right to be here (or there, depending on
On May 6, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
Your logic escapes me, Ed. An illegal alien is an illegal alien. So now why
are you justifying that fact with the bleeding heart liberal attitude that
illegals are just fine and Arizona's law is unconstitutional?
Ad hominem crap
Paul, you and your countrymen are hypocrites. The latest issue of The
Economist had an entire page describing how many people, including
non-whites (Indians, Muslims, etc), who are ranting about being overrun by
immigrants from other countries in the European commonwealth.
- Original
Money and goods don't shoot people, nor suck up free services
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Virgil BIerschwale wrote:
you're kidding me?
Ed,
You are constantly finding ways to justify illegals. I can't figure it out.
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On May 6, 2010, at 8:55 AM, Virgil
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Paul,
I am going to make the leap that you are citizen of the UK, what do
their (your) requirements state about non-citizens that are authorized
to be in the country? Whether for business or personal reasons.
Ok, let's see if we can simplify this for you, put all
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
How does your country legislate people wanting to enter? Are they
allowed to come and go as they please?
Yes, they have to go through some bureaucracy and they are allowed to
work here.
As they are supposed to do here. The issue at hand
Rick Schummer wrote:
I am hopeful that intelligent people should understand boycotting the state
does not affect the politicos who make the rules
As much as boycotting the tuna fish companies affected their CEO's
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That can occur now, the Arizona law having nothing to do with that.
The law merely compels the police of Arizona to assist in this matter
since the Federal authorities seem unwilling, or unable, to stem the
flow. Oh and it eliminates so called sanctuary cities.
::michael
Ed Leafe wrote:
On
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Money and goods don't shoot people, nor suck up free services
So don't give free services to illegal foreigners!
As for shooting... I didn't know that WASPS were pacifists anti-gun
people. I stand corrected. Only foreigners shoot people. True
Americans don't.
Man! I have
Ed Leafe wrote:
On May 6, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Michael Oke, II wrote:
Detained actually. While you don't always have ID you do have access to
it do you not?
Oh, yes: detained. That's so much more pleasant.
Not more pleasant just slightly different than arrested but it doesn't
It's very much up in the air as to it's constitutionality and there may
be very little standing to contest it on those grounds actually. It in
no way, shape or form attempts to supplant Federal law and thus, on
constitutional grounds, may very well be allowed to stand.
There are other
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Paul, you and your countrymen are hypocrites. The latest issue of The
Economist had an entire page describing how many people, including
non-whites (Indians, Muslims, etc), who are ranting about being overrun by
immigrants from other countries in the European
On 5/6/2010 7:59 AM, Ed Leafe wrote:
On May 6, 2010, at 10:54 AM, Rick Schummer wrote:
Naturally I am hopeful it won't affect Southwest Fox too.
Canceling a conference costs real money so these decisions cannot be done in
haste, especially when this controversy is barely wet behind the ears,
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
How does your country legislate people wanting to enter? Are they
allowed to come and go as they please?
Yes, they have to go through some bureaucracy and they are allowed to
work here.
As they
2010/5/6 Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com:
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Paul, you and your countrymen are hypocrites. The latest issue of The
Economist had an entire page describing how many people, including
non-whites (Indians, Muslims, etc), who are ranting about being overrun by
immigrants from
Jean Laeremans wrote:
2010/5/6 Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com:
Nicholas Geti wrote:
Paul, you and your countrymen are hypocrites. The latest issue of The
Economist had an entire page describing how many people, including
non-whites (Indians, Muslims, etc), who are ranting about
I am looking forward to going out to Phoenix in first week of June
just to experience what is or is not going on. A drive through
Guadalupe should be an eye opener. I remember when the homes were few
and the cardboard boxes were many. That was pretty sad living.
I wonder if they pick up drunk
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote:
I'm against ID cards, especially anything biometric.
Well here in Belgium we are supposed to carry id cards and rather
sophisticated ones too. Never bothered me.
But then again police brutality is rather uncommon here
On May 6, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
You are constantly finding ways to justify illegals. I can't figure it out.
Maybe if you actually read what I wrote...
I commented on the claim made that they do not contribute anything. The
fact is that they contribute
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Sure there are people that are giving these resources to them and they
expect something in return but that hardly makes it right, either for
people born in this country or those that followed the laws and legally
earned the right to be here (or
So you are saying that you have 0 illegal immigrants?
America does not have quotas, merely a set of procedures that millions
refuse to follow.
::michael
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
How does your country legislate people
If I'm merely walking around, then my colour, race or gender is not
reasonable suspicion to request my ID. Not to say that that won't occur
but, as I stated earlier, these types of actions will only serve to
highlight a specific officers failure to adhere to the law.
Do you really think that
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
I am going to make the leap that you are citizen of the UK,
Techincally I'm a British subject, not a citizen ;-)
what do
their (your) requirements state about non-citizens that are authorized
to be in the country?
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Jean Laeremans
laeremans.jeanma...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote:
I'm against ID cards, especially anything biometric.
Well here in Belgium we are supposed to carry id cards and rather
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure there are people that are giving these resources to them and they
expect something in return but that hardly makes it right, either for
people born in this country or those that followed the laws and legally
earned
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Rick Schummer
pro...@whitelightcomputing.com wrote:
I hope the boycott of Arizona doesn't hurt the conference; I already
heard of one that has been canceled, and another that was moved because of
the backlash against the Arizona state government.
Naturally I
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
That can occur now, the Arizona law having nothing to do with that.
The law merely compels the police of Arizona to assist in this matter
since the Federal authorities seem unwilling, or unable, to stem the
flow. Oh and
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
It's very much up in the air as to it's constitutionality and there may
be very little standing to contest it on those grounds actually. It in
no way, shape or form attempts to supplant Federal law and thus, on
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:
On May 6, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
You are constantly finding ways to justify illegals. I can't figure it
out.
Maybe if you actually read what I wrote...
I commented on the claim made that they
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Sure there are people that are giving these resources to them and they
expect something in return but that hardly makes it right, either for
people born in this country or those that followed the laws and legally
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Paul Hill paulroberth...@gmail.com wrote:
The Belgian Jews in WWII probably thought different.
Why should they ?
A+
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Michael Oke, II wrote:
So you are saying that you have 0 illegal immigrants?
There are some. We don't know how many as we don't prosecute them.
America does not have quotas, merely a set of procedures that millions
refuse to follow.
Really?
So *any* Mexican can apply for a work
Michael Oke, II wrote:
If I'm merely walking around, then my colour, race or gender is not
reasonable suspicion to request my ID. Not to say that that won't occur
but, as I stated earlier, these types of actions will only serve to
highlight a specific officers failure to adhere to the law.
Paul Hill wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
I am going to make the leap that you are citizen of the UK,
Techincally I'm a British subject, not a citizen ;-)
LOL
Do you think he'll get the difference?
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Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
If I'm merely walking around, then my colour, race or gender is not
reasonable suspicion to request my ID. Not to say that that won't occur
but, as I stated earlier, these types of actions will only serve to
highlight a specific officers failure
Yes, unlike you I know, and understand the difference.
::michael
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Paul Hill wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
I am going to make the leap that you are citizen of the UK,
Techincally I'm a British subject, not a
Paul,
I apologize, I misspoke, of course you are a British subject.
What they do is not necessary reflective of the requirements of the
Commonwealth.
::michael
Paul Hill wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
I am going to make the leap that you
Really? They don't have a right to work with Federal offices as granted
to them, lastly by Bill Clinton?
::michael
Bill Anderson wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
That can occur now, the Arizona law having nothing to do with that.
The law
I'd just be repeating what I have already asked so I'll allow you to
attempt answer that question.
::michael
Bill Anderson wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
It's very much up in the air as to it's constitutionality and there may
be very little
And you know that because? Exactly, you don't.
Not in the state of California they aren't. They fill them night after
night. Of course some of them are seeking treatment for conditions that
would have been better and easier treated earlier and, if they returned
to their home country, I'm
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Sure there are people that are giving these resources to them and they
expect something in return but that hardly makes it right, either for
people born in this country or those that
And that, in some fashion, makes it okay to you?
::michael
Bill Anderson wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:
On May 6, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Nicholas Geti wrote:
You are constantly finding ways to justify illegals. I can't figure it
out.
Maybe if
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
So you are saying that you have 0 illegal immigrants?
There are some. We don't know how many as we don't prosecute them.
And neither has America but that has to change.
America does not have quotas, merely a set of procedures that millions
Michael Oke, II wrote:
Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
Michael Oke, II wrote:
If I'm merely walking around, then my colour, race or gender is not
reasonable suspicion to request my ID. Not to say that that won't occur
but, as I stated earlier, these types of actions will only serve to
Red Herring. Not relevant to what I was discussing.
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
And that, in some fashion, makes it okay to you?
::michael
Bill Anderson wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Ed Leafe e...@leafe.com wrote:
On May 6, 2010,
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
And you know that because? Exactly, you don't.
Oh, that's rich.
I've been reading about this for over 20 years. I've been in touch with some
of the people at the Rand Corporation that put out studies saying the same.
Arizona doesn't have the right to violate the 10th nor the equal protection
clause of the 14th amendment. The courts will handle this.
Bill
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
Really? They don't have a right to work with Federal offices as granted
to
Stephen Russell wrote:
I wonder if they pick up drunk Indians where they deport them to?
Bad Steve!
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The reservation.
Bad Pete!
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Michael Oke, II wrote:
Or the legal right of Coca Cola company to make business abroad? What
did you use to call it? Free trade, was it?
Why does Ford, GM, Coca Cola, MicroShit, etc have the right to work and
offer their products abroad (and take earnings back to US share holders)
while
Jean Laeremans wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 3:33 PM, John Harvey john.har...@shelbynet.com wrote:
I'm against ID cards, especially anything biometric.
Well here in Belgium we are supposed to carry id cards and rather
sophisticated ones too. Never bothered me.
But then again police
My sources are doctor's at the local emergency rooms and people in the
administration that have to figure out how to plug these holes in their
budgets.
Please provide some links to these studies.
::michael
Bill Anderson wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com
Michael Oke, II wrote:
America does not have quotas, merely a set of procedures that millions
refuse to follow.
Really?
So *any* Mexican can apply for a work permit, go through the
bureaucratic procedure and certainly get it?
And yet they *choose* to pay huge sums to slip
Not at all. You said that they do pay taxes by illegally using somebody
else's valid SSN. Does that not cause you concern or is it okay because
the tax money gets into the system that way so why worry about it? How
about the poor soul that has no clue about these wages that are being
earned
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
And that, in some fashion, makes it okay to you?
So let's see, they work honestly, they pay their taxes, they go to
church, and on top of that they work their asses out for little money.
And yet you are not ok
I'll see what I can find when you provide your links.
Rand reports to the government, I'll take their word over your yours, sorry.
Bill
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
My sources are doctor's at the local emergency rooms and people in the
And it's not rich at all. You have no clue where I get my information
from so you can hardly be dismissive of the information, although it
hardly surprises me that you would be.
::michael
Bill Anderson wrote:
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Michael Oke, II oke...@gmail.com wrote:
And you
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