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Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
- Original Message -
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
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To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
Mr. Baggett, one of our fine and helpful writers, here manages to
seriously
confuse some issues.
At 09:34 AM 10/22/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Don't you think if it were
See replies below.
Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website: www.bagotronix.com
- Original Message -
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
At 10:14
At 11:14 AM 10/23/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
This must be hammer on Mr. Baggett day for Abdul.
My apologies. I did not intend to hammer Mr. Baggett, but rather some ideas
advanced by him. I think he's better than (some) of his ideas
I'll give you another amusing joke, which you
At 12:05 PM 10/23/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Why is my idea strange? The HP hardware probably represents about $350 of
the $399 price. That leaves about $49 for the XP license. That's pretty
close to my idea of what XP should cost. Why should I have to buy a new PC
to get a deal on
Please see below:
-Original Message-
From: Dwight Harm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:22
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
-Original Message-
From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21
...see below...
-Original Message-
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:47 AM
Free software can be great, but it won't save the world. Commercial
software can be great, but it's straying further and further from the good
value
-Original Message-
From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:11 PM
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
IMO, the software world is in terrible shape. The main reason free
software
exists is because some users got tired of being endlessly gouged by
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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
...see below...
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From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:47 AM
Free software can
] Open source SP7
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Ivan,
I thought all of that stuff (or at least most of it) was available from
the Microsoft Developers Network. and to be more specific, from their
Visual Studio, and particularly from the individual SDK's for the
different products
At 03:18 AM 10/22/2003, Dwight Harm wrote:
Most of the folks on this list are hardware people. I've been developing
selling software for 20 years, and I can tell you IT AIN'T EASY. Delivering
quality software takes a lot of time and a lot of talent, which = $$$.
Let me say that I've been doing
Mr. Baggett, one of our fine and helpful writers, here manages to seriously
confuse some issues.
At 09:34 AM 10/22/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Don't you think if it were easy (or even possible) to make money -- to
stay
in business -- at those prices, that there would be companies
At 10:14 AM 10/22/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Note: I am not against MS in principle. If I could buy a full version of
W98 or 2K for $39, I'd do it. But $299 is just too much for software that
should be priced as a commodity.
Mr. Baggett has a strange idea of what the software costs.
Message-
From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2003 5:07 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Cc: JaMi Smith
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
Ok, Mike, I'll stick my foot in my mouth . . .
As if I haven't already done enough of that . . .
Actually, I think that it is a lot
Is Open source good idea? I don't think so.
The reasons are: 1) Your work will be eazily stolen by Protel. They may
simply copy your algorithm and update their DXP. 2) Protel SDK is very
difficult to use, you may result in a buggy ware upone bugg base. 3) I
don't think there are more than 10
- Original Message -
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
~ ~ ~
. . . Too bad the
U.S. Dept of Justice
below.
JaMi
- Original Message -
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
Mr. Smith's proposal is of sufficiently questionable legality
In a message dated 10/21/2003 3:13:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3) I
don't think there are more than 10 people interested in developing Protel
server. You will agree with me If you take a look at how many people
responded to this message.
Don't assume from lack
, October 16, 2003 6:39 PM
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From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
- Original Message -
From: Bagotronix Tech Support [EMAIL PROTECTED
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
Ivan,
I thought all of that stuff (or at least most of it) was available from
the Microsoft Developers Network. and to be more specific, from their
Visual Studio, and particularly from the individual SDK's for the
different products.
Most of it is available
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
IMO, the software world is in terrible shape. The main reason free software
exists is because some users got tired of being endlessly gouged by
commercial software developers' prices and their lack of concern about
fixing bugs, and decided to write their own
At 01:46 PM 10/21/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
I wish I could erase the concept of software maintenance from the world
mindset. Software is not a physical thing that can wear out or break.
Software Maintenance is market-speak for bug fixing.
Yes, plus support and a certain level of
Mr. Smith's proposal is of sufficiently questionable legality that it would
be a fairly hazardous undertaking. It might indeed be legal -- too many
details are unknown to me to have a clear opinion -- but if Altium felt
threatened by it, who is going to pay the legal expenses to defend against
?
: )
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From: Mike Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
I thinks Jon is right we need the source code to start
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Saputelli
Hello All,
I was contemplating what my next move with Protel will be and came up with
an idea of creating an open sourced SP7 software for 99SE. Before I put my
foot in my mouth, is there a future for open sourced Service Packs?
is it legal?
Mike Reagan
EDSI
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Mike Reagan wrote:
Hello All,
I was contemplating what my next move with Protel will be and came up with
an idea of creating an open sourced SP7 software for 99SE. Before I put my
foot in my mouth, is there a future for open sourced Service Packs?
is it legal?
I don't know how you can do
Subject: [PEDA] Open source SP7
Hello All,
I was contemplating what my next move with Protel will be and came up
with
an idea of creating an open sourced SP7 software for 99SE. Before I put
my
foot in my mouth, is there a future for open sourced Service Packs?
is it legal?
Mike Reagan
EDSI
hell, i'd buy a closed source one!
ds
Mike Reagan wrote:
Hello All,
I was contemplating what my next move with Protel will be and came up with
an idea of creating an open sourced SP7 software for 99SE. Before I put my
foot in my mouth, is there a future for open sourced Service Packs?
I thinks Jon is right we need the source code to start
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:26 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7
hell, i'd buy a closed source one!
ds
Mike Reagan wrote
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