Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Dwight Harm
...see below... > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:47 AM > > Free software can be great, but it won't save the world. Commercial > software can be great, but it's straying further and further from the good >

Re: [PEDA] Is "find/replace" replaced by "find" in DXP? :)

2003-10-22 Thread Kirill 'Big K' Katsnelson
Ian, Thank you for the answers! (Standard comment - the Altium DXP forum has the advantage of active participation by Altium programmers and support staff. You won't get that here.) I thought this was *the* mailing list :) Where is that DXP forum? You mean the one at forums.altium.com? -kk

[PEDA] Antwort: Test

2003-10-22 Thread ga
we never were off, JaMi. Must be a problem on your side. Mit freundlichem Gruß Kind regards Gisbert Auge N.A.T. GmbH www.nateurope.com "JaMi Smith"

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Dwight Harm
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:11 PM > > Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > > >IMO, the software world is in terrible shape. The main reason free software > >exists is because some users got tired of being endlessly gouge

[PEDA] How to do flattened printout from a multichannel schematic?

2003-10-22 Thread Juha Kuusama
Hi, I'm doing my first multichannel design with the DXP. Generally, the feature is great, a real time saver. However, now that it is done I need to do production documents and the Protel way is not exactly industry standard. So, I rather produce regular documentation than educate everyone downs

Re: [PEDA] Is "find/replace" replaced by "find" in DXP? :)

2003-10-22 Thread Ian Wilson
On 05:50 PM 22/10/2003, Kirill 'Big K' Katsnelson said: (Standard comment - the Altium DXP forum has the advantage of active participation by Altium programmers and support staff. You won't get that here.) I thought this was *the* mailing list :) Where is that DXP forum? You mean the one at fo

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Don't you think if it were easy (or even possible) to make money -- to stay > in business -- at those prices, that there would be companies doing it?!? No. That is the theory of perfect markets. Which is just ivory tower economics BS. Observe: An economics graduate student and his professor

Re: [PEDA] How to do flattened printout from a multichannel schematic?

2003-10-22 Thread Albert McGilvra
Juha, After you "Compile PCB Project" (under Project menu in schematic editor) you will see a series of tabs along the bottom of the schematic window. Each tab represents a channel. Click on each tab and print. Regards, Al McGilvra McGilvra Engineering - Electronic Design & Development Servic

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> If you really want to run Win32 programs under Linux, try VmWare! I have it > on 2 machines, using Win2000 Pro as the "guest" OS, and use P99SE, > Xilinx Ise > and Bobcad (mechanical CAD/CAM) on it, and it is as flawless as Win2K will > allow it to be. VmWare is not free, but it is quite reason

Re: [PEDA] How to do flattened printout from a multichannel schematic?

2003-10-22 Thread Juha Kuusama
Albert, Oh, that easy. Thank you! Too many things to learn and pay attention in the new system... :-) My bad. Juha - Original Message - From: "Albert McGilvra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Ho

[PEDA] Server problems

2003-10-22 Thread Mike
To: Allen Todd From: Mike Amorelli I got your message about a possible problem with my server, however I have no problems with your Protel forum or any other e-mails. Can you call or fax me a password so I may try the DXP forum. Unless you know of a specific error code for your returned e-mail

[PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Peter Montgomery
I have been using Protel 2.8 for a long time now. I recently came across a 30 day demo disk of Protel 99SE that Protel had sent me. I decided to install it to see what I have been missing by not upgrading. I have sort of just looked around a little but was rather shocked to discover 3 key things

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Dennis Saputelli
what you say notwithstanding ... IMHO 99SE is a big big improvement over the older tools i too see the broken (actually shifted) line thing a tiny bit on schematic but it doesn't really bother me much, it has never caused me a misinterpretaion of the the wires at the first pan or PgDn it is fixe

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yeah, I get the broken schematic wire thing on my workstation too. Using a Matrox G450 video card. If you like Protel 2.8 and don't see the benefit to 99SE, then by all means stay with 2.8. I still use 2.8 occasionally, for the pin swapping feature. When manually optimizing routing for a 2 layer

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Mark Koitmaa
I believe it is a driver issue. I haven't seen the display problem in years. I'm also using a Matrox G450, but I've reinstalled windows several times over the years and I don't remember if the drivers were taken from the Matrox CDROM or some other source. Mark Koitmaa At 01:17 PM 10/22/2003,

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I believe it is a driver issue. I haven't seen the display problem in > years. I'm also using a Matrox G450, but I've reinstalled windows several > times over the years and I don't remember if the drivers were taken from > the Matrox CDROM or some other source. Yeah, that's the ticket. Keep ins

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Mark Koitmaa
No that's not the ticket. The need to reinstall Windows was due to hardware failure - a failed HDD and two failed swapable HDD drive bays (I've got 10 PC's here). At any rate, my point was that I just don't remember where I obtained the drivers but my current display card/driver allows 99SE sch

[PEDA] Film to Gerber Files

2003-10-22 Thread MSIsallen
Hi, I have a customer that has a circuit board layout on film, but no source files. Is there a service that can convert film to Gerbers? Thanks, Steve Allen * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit

Re: [PEDA] Film to Gerber Files

2003-10-22 Thread Brooks,Bill
http://www.outputcity.com/ The above link will take you to the website for the people we use to get film converted to Gerber. They do a great job. Ask for Holly. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Ian Wilson
On 07:18 AM 23/10/2003, Mark Koitmaa said: I believe it is a driver issue. I agree, Mark, about the driver - I suspect the mouse driver :-). Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.t

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:18 AM 10/22/2003, Dwight Harm wrote: Most of the folks on this list are hardware people. I've been developing & selling software for 20 years, and I can tell you IT AIN'T EASY. Delivering quality software takes a lot of time and a lot of talent, which = $$$. Let me say that I've been doing

[PEDA] New email account test & new record for Client99.exe processes to kill.

2003-10-22 Thread Brian Guralnick
Wow, before shutting down, I had 19 hidden Client99.exe processes to kill. That's the most I've seen yet. _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * htt

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE

2003-10-22 Thread Dennis Saputelli
so what, you never heard of re-format? that's what the really cool tech support guys have you do ! :) :) actually i have never reinstalled windows or re-formated (4 or 5 active machines) if they get creaky enough we get a new box, it's usually time anyway the hand me downs go to the UPS machine!

[PEDA] New Techserv account settings

2003-10-22 Thread Brian Guralnick
Does anyone remember the Techserv echo setting 'switch' to make this forum echo your own message back to you? Can't find it on the web site. _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEDA] Is "find/replace" replaced by "find" in DXP? :)

2003-10-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:50 AM 10/22/2003, Kirill 'Big K' Katsnelson wrote: I thought this was *the* mailing list :) Well, it was until DXP. Altium had a Beta list which they owned, and they just continued it with the released product. And since they own the list, and can thus theoretically boot any abusive writer

Re: [PEDA] New email account test & new record for Client99.exe processes to kill.

2003-10-22 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i used to see a few copies sometime, but never any more (on this box i am using now) not positive exactly why as not much has changed the only speculation i have is that i have become more careful about closing all the files in all DDBs and then closing all DDBs before shutting down protel als

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Mr. Baggett, one of our fine and helpful writers, here manages to seriously confuse some issues. At 09:34 AM 10/22/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > Don't you think if it were easy (or even possible) to make money -- to stay > in business -- at those prices, that there would be companies doi

Re: [PEDA] New email account test & new record for Client99.exe processes to kill.

2003-10-22 Thread Brian Guralnick
I guess they add up when I don't re-boot my PC for a week or so. _ Brian Guralnick [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] New

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:14 AM 10/22/2003, Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: Note: I am not against MS in principle. If I could buy a full version of W98 or 2K for $39, I'd do it. But $299 is just too much for software that should be priced as a commodity. Mr. Baggett has a strange idea of what the software costs. Fi

Re: [PEDA] Server problems

2003-10-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:23 PM 10/22/2003, Mike wrote: To: Allen Todd From: Mike Amorelli I got your message about a possible problem with my server, however I have no problems with your Protel forum or any other e-mails. Can you call or fax me a password so I may try the DXP forum. Unless you know of a specific e

Re: [PEDA] Server problems

2003-10-22 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
The plot thickens. I got back a bounce from the mail I sent directly to Mr. Amorelli: His server definitely has some badly-set prohibited domain specifications or something like that. For reference, below are the complete headers that came back, boring for most but perhaps useful to some. Retur