Modest book on Python grahpics several years ago

2013-09-04 Thread W. eWatson
About 4-5 years ago, two authors (possibly one) wrote a book on Python for beginners. It was probably no more than 200 pages thick, and likely cost close to $25. Several years later they wrote another book on Python graphics. Does anyone recall the name of these books? I don't think it was

Cannot remove PIL, numpy lib from XP

2012-04-02 Thread W. eWatson
Well, it looks like I cannot remove PIL with control panel remove/add. The dialog just flashes when I push the button. I tried on an old program not in use, and it did respond as one would want. My guess is that I should not have started with removing Python 2.5.2 first. How do I get out of

Installing Python 2.5.2 on Win 7

2012-04-01 Thread W. eWatson
I would like to install 2.5.2 on Win 7 for several reasons. I'm using my former XP laptop, which I recently upgraded to Win7. In the XP form, I had at one time installed 2.5.2, PIL, numpy, matplotlib, etc. on it to drive a camera via a Python app. The camera is still around, and I use it on my

Re: Installing Python 2.5.2 on Win 7

2012-04-01 Thread W. eWatson
On 4/1/2012 1:57 PM, Irmen de Jong wrote: On 1-4-2012 22:11, W. eWatson wrote: To solve this problem I thought I would install the software on my laptop Win7 PC. When I tried PIL.1.1.6 I got several unexpected messages that seem to indicate things were not going well. I have stopped to find

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2 [SOLVED]

2011-12-29 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/29/2011 9:44 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:54:48 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Talking to myself.. According to the pop-up I get (Win7) when

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-29 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/29/2011 6:54 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:56:59 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: It didn't like that either. Got msvcp71.dll was located but the dll server entry was not found. File could not be registered. Arguments are /u,/s/i/n

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-29 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/29/2011 9:04 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 09:54:48 -0500, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Talking to myself.. It's the best way to get people to listen to you. :-) According to the pop-up I get (Win7) when supplying an invalid

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 7:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 12/27/2011 6:27 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Well, it found several problems. These DLLs MSVCP1 EFSADU MSJAVA. I'm guessing MSVCP1 is a typo for MSVCP71? If that is missing

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
A new dilemma. The PC XP in question with Python has the the msvcp71.dll file in System32. The one I took off my other laptop has a slightly newer one. Feb 2003 vs Aug 2003. Perhaps the (python PC) has a corrupt one? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/28/2011 9:37 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:33 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Well, thing went slightly awry. The link gave me two choices. Download msv...dll fixer, and download fixer. I took the latter. However, just checking on the other one, found that I

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/28/2011 12:55 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 12/28/2011 9:37 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 9:33 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Well, thing went slightly awry. The link gave me two choices. Download msv...dll fixer, and download fixer. I took the latter. However

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/28/2011 9:09 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: On 12/28/2011 08:04 PM, W. eWatson wrote: I'm going to save the msvcp71.dll from the Python laptop somewhere, then insert the one from my other XP laptop. Finally, I'll register it. regsvr32. Just to review, I presume not from cmd, but Run? Seems

Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
I'm trying to restore Python 2.5.2 on an old XP PC for a particular application from 4-5 years ago that uses it . According to the latest manual on it, the following should be installed. python-2.5.2.msi PIL-1.1.6.win32-py2.5.exe numpy-1.1.0-win32-superpack-python2.5.exe

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 8:42 AM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/28/2011 03:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Here's the traceback. The traceback seems to imply that matplotlib is not being installed properly. Have you tried uninstalling then reinstalling matplotlib? I believe I have, but I'll give it another go

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 8:53 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 9:03 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: File C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\transforms.py, line 34, in module from matplotlib._path import affine_transform ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 8:42 AM, Lie Ryan wrote: On 12/28/2011 03:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Here's the traceback. The traceback seems to imply that matplotlib is not being installed properly. Have you tried uninstalling then reinstalling matplotlib? I just did, and the results

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
... I'm suspicious of this line, and maybe even the app program. There may have been a change to the code that required the later two versions of numpy and matplotlib. In fact, I'm using the later version here, so I'll see if I can back up to the first Python app they produced. from pylab

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 10:36 AM, Christian Heimes wrote: Am 27.12.2011 17:03, schrieb W. eWatson: from matplotlib._path import affine_transform ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found. You are missing one or more DLLs that is required to load the _path.pyd module

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
I realized that I had a working copy of the app on another XP PC, so I looked at what I had installed for Python. It was not what I had posted the first time. There must have been some shift after the July 16, 2008 date. One lib that was missing was scipy. I just collected the three libs I

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 2:58 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:35 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: I replaced numpy and matplotlib, and added scipy. I still get errors, but perhaps because the install order is now wrong. It was numpy matplotlib Does anyone know the right order?

Re: Which libraries for Python 2.5.2

2011-12-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/27/2011 6:27 PM, Ian Kelly wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 6:21 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Well, it found several problems. These DLLs MSVCP1 EFSADU MSJAVA. I'm guessing MSVCP1 is a typo for MSVCP71? If that is missing then that is probably the culprit. That DLL is

Re: Is my IDLE problem caused by .idlerc? Permissions.

2011-12-26 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/24/2011 11:35 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:55:48 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Permissions as follows: SYSTEM: All. From Full control to write Account Unknown(S-1-5-21...): readexec, Read Wayne: (normal use) All. From Full control to write Admin

Re: Is my IDLE problem caused by .idlerc? Permissions.

2011-12-26 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/26/2011 10:16 AM, W. eWatson wrote: On 12/24/2011 11:35 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 10:55:48 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Permissions as follows: SYSTEM: All. From Full control to write Account Unknown(S-1-5-21...): readexec, Read Wayne: (normal

Is my IDLE problem caused by .idlerc? Permissions.

2011-12-24 Thread W. eWatson
I installed 64-bit Python 2.7.2 on Win 7. IDLE does appear as the second choice on right-click of a py file menu. However, nothing happens if I use it. If I try to execute idle from the cmd window, it complains about .idlerc\recent-files.lst IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:

Re: Cannot Remove Python Libs from XP

2011-12-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 12/22/2011 1:21 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:53:04 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com wrote: I have three py libs and the python program itself, 2.52, installed on an 6 year old HP Laptop. I decided to remove them, and took removed Python with the Control Panel

Cannot Remove Python Libs from XP

2011-12-22 Thread W. eWatson
I have three py libs and the python program itself, 2.52, installed on an 6 year old HP Laptop. I decided to remove them, and took removed Python with the Control Panel ?Add/Remove icon. Worked fine. When I try to remove any of the remaining libs, press the add/remove button does nothing but

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/23/2011 2:29 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: On 11/23/2011 12:38 PM, W. eWatson wrote: So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. C++ is a ton of fun. You haven't lived until you've made a syntax error in a template

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread W. eWatson
Whoops, I thought I was replying to Matt Meyers just above you. However, I think he chimed in above about ActiveState back on the 22nd. In any case, I think this thread has ceased to be productive. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-24 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/23/2011 10:29 AM, Arnaud Delobelle wrote: On 23 November 2011 17:38, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: [...] It may be time to move on to c++. Good Luck. Bye! We, pardn meee. -- Steve Martin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 10:43 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:46:01 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Of course, Dennis' C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe wouldn't work either. If you didn't

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 withregard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/23/2011 8:08 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inmailman.2962.1322031180.27778.python-l...@python.org Alemu Tadesseatade...@sunedison.com writes: scientific package is not working and complaining about not able to find/load DLL ... frustrating for the first day in the python world. ANY tip ?

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-23 Thread W. eWatson
So unless Alan Meyer has further interest in this, it looks like it's at an end. It may be time to move on to c++. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/21/2011 11:21 AM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:39:37 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/21/2011 3:07 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/21/2011 11:39 AM, W. eWatson wrote: My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. Your first criterion for success should be that IDLE runs at all, which is apparently

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/21/2011 7:00 PM, alex23 wrote: W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Comments? Please don't start multiple threads on the same issue. Your joking, right, or do you just prefer 500 line threads wandering all over the place? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter. ... On my system that's C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe Alan OK, I'm going to try it soon. Keeping my fingers

Re: What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-22 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/22/2011 7:29 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/22/2011 11:29 AM, Alan Meyer wrote: On 11/22/2011 1:55 PM, Alan Meyer wrote: ... 6. Select, or navigate to and select, the python IDLE interpreter. ... On my system that's C:\Python26\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe Alan OK, I'm going

What I do and do not know about installing Python on Win 7 with regard to IDLE.

2011-11-21 Thread W. eWatson
My criterion for success is that it puts IDLE as a choice for editor on the menu produced with a right-click on a py file. So far no response on this has solved the problem. I know it sets up that way on a 2.5 and 2.4 on other PCs I have. I know at one time it worked on my 64-bit Win 7 PC,

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-19 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/19/2011 2:39 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/19/2011 12:03 AM, W. eWatson wrote: I meant 3.2.2, not 3.3.2, sorry for typo. * Python 3.2.2 Windows x86 MSI Installer (Windows binary -- does not include source) this is 32 bit. Note that your c: has /program files for 64 bit programs

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-19 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/19/2011 2:34 AM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/18/2011 6:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I think no one has offered is whether

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-19 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/19/2011 5:51 AM, Alec Taylor wrote: Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-19 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/19/2011 5:51 AM, Alec Taylor wrote: Works fine for me from msi install on Windows 8 x64 Dev Preview On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:06 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. It's on on the right-click of a py menu

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 8:34 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:55:36 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 8:34 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:55:36 -0800, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 9:12 AM, MRAB wrote: On 18/11/2011 15:29, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 9:19 AM, rusi wrote: On Nov 18, 10:12 pm, MRABpyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote: On 18/11/2011 15:29, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 5:11 AM, Neil Cerutti wrote: On 2011-11-18, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 11:35 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/17/2011 7:03 PM, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. Use the start menu to start IDLE once. Then pin it to your taskbar. If you do not have STart/ all programs / Python / IDLE, then your installation is bad

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 9:25 PM, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:21 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 7:59 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/17/2011 03:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: SNIP Can you add IDLE manually

Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you right-click on a py file, do you see a choice for the

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 10:06 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2 has the same IDLE oddity that I've described. That is, if you right-click

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I think no one has offered is whether their installation of 2.7.2 has the same

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 4:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/18/2011 3:44 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:06:47 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: Undoubtedly some of you have seen my post Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7. One thing I think no one has offered is whether

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
... 3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2 release on http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/. Google shows me nothing for 3.3.2. I see: * Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug information files (sig) * Windows X86-64 MSI

Re: Python 2.7.2 on Win7 and IDLE (Try it)

2011-11-18 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/18/2011 9:03 PM, W. eWatson wrote: ... 3.3.2? I do not see that in his single message I found. I see a 3.2.2 release on http://www.python.org/download/releases/3.2.2/. Google shows me nothing for 3.3.2. I see: * Windows x86 MSI Installer (3.2.2) (sig) and Visual Studio debug information

Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing with matters I gave up, and uninstalled 2.5.2 and turned to 2.7.2. Same results.

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 12:46 PM, spartan.the wrote: On Nov 17, 10:31 pm, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$r...@dont-email.meW. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.comwrites: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 12:59 PM, MRAB wrote: On 17/11/2011 20:31, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inja3eae$rr$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 2:12 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/17/2011 11:55 AM, W. eWatson wrote: Months ago 2.5.2 stopped functioning on my Win7 PC, so a few days ago I uninstalled and installed. Same problem. If one right-clicks on a py file, IDLE is not shown in the menu as Edit with IDLE. After playing

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 7:59 PM, Dave Angel wrote: On 11/17/2011 03:31 PM, W. eWatson wrote: On 11/17/2011 9:39 AM, John Gordon wrote: SNIP Can you add IDLE manually to the associated applications list? Tried that by sending it directly to idle.pyw, but then trying to get there through the Edit

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 4:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:03:14 -0800, W. eWatson wrote: I have not found any successful way to get to IDLE. It's on on the right-click of a py menu, and, if I go the ...lib/idle.pyw, it fails with a invalid Win32 app msg. If you associate .pyw

Re: Both Python 2.5.2 and 2.7.2 flop the same way under Win 7

2011-11-17 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/17/2011 7:04 PM, alex23 wrote: On Nov 18, 2:55 am, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: Comments? Are you using the vanilla installer or ActiveState's ActivePython? I find the latter integrates better with Windows. Also, out of curiousity, 32 or 64 bit Windows? 64-bit and plain

Re: Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7 (Invalid on Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/14/2011 7:24 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inj9q8cs$3al$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: I just pushed aside the python25 folder by renaming it, and installed py 2.5.2. However, when I try to open the simplest of py programs with IDLE, I get an error from Win7.

Re: Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7 (Invalid on Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/14/2011 8:15 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inj9rct4$frh$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: What application is associated with .py files? Application? Simple ones, including the one i put here that you removed to answer my question. Eh? I can't see anywhere that

Re: Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7 (Invalid on Win 32 app)

2011-11-14 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/14/2011 10:00 AM, John Gordon wrote: Inj9rja5$qcp$1...@dont-email.me W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com writes: I would think the install would make the association of py to Python, either IDLE or the interpreter. I would hope so too, however you did mention that you moved the python

Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7

2011-11-13 Thread W. eWatson
For many months I had sporadically used 2.5.2 under Win 7, then something went awry. I tried an uninstall/install and it didn't get any better. I thought I'd take another shot at it today. The uninstall went OK, but c:\python25 remained with several py files and a folder, Lib. I went ahead

Re: Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7

2011-11-13 Thread W. eWatson
On 11/13/2011 2:08 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: On 11/13/2011 12:46 PM, W. eWatson wrote: For many months I had sporadically used 2.5.2 under Win 7, then something went awry. I tried an uninstall/install and it didn't get any better. I thought I'd take another shot at it today. The uninstall went OK

Re: Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7

2011-11-13 Thread W. eWatson
Well, let be a careful a little more. I have PIL, numpy, scipy, pymatplotlib and pyephem installed, I think. There are Removeexe files in the python25 folder for them. There's also a Removepy2exe.exe. Probably that was somehow used to get out py2.5. --

Re: Uninstalling Py 2.5.2 from Windows 7 (Invalid on Win 32 app)

2011-11-13 Thread W. eWatson
I just pushed aside the python25 folder by renaming it, and installed py 2.5.2. However, when I try to open the simplest of py programs with IDLE, I get an error from Win7. c:\Users\blah\...\junk.py is not a valid Win 32 app. Here's one: def abc(one): print abc: , one, is one def

File Association for Python on XP

2011-10-23 Thread W. eWatson
Last night I thought I'd install Python on a friend's XP PC. I noticed he had declined to show extensions on any file. I thought the Control Panel might be the way to do it. I couldn't find anything that would do all files, doc, txt, py, etc. I was able to do it, I think, from a right-click

Re: File Association for Python on XP

2011-10-23 Thread W. eWatson
On 10/23/2011 9:41 AM, MRAB wrote: To show the extensions, in an Explorer window go to Tools-Folder Options... and look in the View tab. You can also look at the file associations in the File Types tab. Thanks. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Anyone here familiar with installing Open Watcom F77?

2011-09-08 Thread W. eWatson
On 9/5/2011 9:36 AM, Colin J. Williams wrote: On 05-Sep-11 12:22 PM, Dan Nagle wrote: Hello, On 2011-09-05 16:15:20 +, W. eWatson said: On 9/5/2011 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:15 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: See Subject. snip To what

Re: strange thing:

2011-09-06 Thread W. eWatson
CA, Did you respond to my off-NG msg about FORTRAN? Perhaps it's caught in my spam on the net. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: strange thing:

2011-09-06 Thread W. eWatson
On 9/6/2011 7:48 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: CA, Did you respond to my off-NG msg about FORTRAN? Perhaps it's caught in my spam on the net. No, I didn't; as someone else pointed out, you'll get better results asking on a

[OT] Anyone here familiar with installing Open Watcom F77?

2011-09-05 Thread W. eWatson
See Subject. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [OT] Anyone here familiar with installing Open Watcom F77?

2011-09-05 Thread W. eWatson
On 9/5/2011 8:24 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:15 AM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: See Subject. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list To what extent familiar? I have it installed on several computers, but only because it comes with Open Wat

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 7/27/2011 9:46 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:28:38 -0700, W. eWatson wolftra...@invalid.com declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: For junk.py, I tried Open With-Choose default program. I selected idle.pyw. When I tried the new default for getting

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 7/28/2011 6:19 AM, Jerry Hill wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:26 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: .py=Python.File .pyw=Python.NoConFile Python.File=C:\Python25\python.exe %1 %* Python.File=C:\Python25\python.exe %1 %* Python.NoConFile=C:\Python25\pythonw.exe %1 %* That all

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-28 Thread W. eWatson
On 7/28/2011 8:10 AM, W. eWatson wrote: On 7/28/2011 6:19 AM, Jerry Hill wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:26 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: .py=Python.File .pyw=Python.NoConFile Python.File=C:\Python25\python.exe %1 %* Python.File=C:\Python25\python.exe %1 %* Python.NoConFile=C

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-28 Thread W. eWatson
I've given this problem over to the Python Tutor mail-list. I can capture screens more easily than manipulate in cmd.exe. It may be a preference problem on who owns what. SYSTEM seems to be the owner, and not me. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-27 Thread W. eWatson
It's been many months since I played with Python, and have forgotten how to bring up IDLE. If I simply click on a py file, I see what may be a dos window appear and quickly disappear. If I right-click on the file, and select IDLE, the same thing happens. If I go directly to All Programs, the

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 7/27/2011 8:38 AM, rantingrick wrote: On Jul 27, 10:06 am, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: It's been many months since I played with Python, and have forgotten how to bring up IDLE. If I simply click on a py file, I see what may be a dos window appear and quickly disappear.

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 7/27/2011 9:48 AM, Jerry Hill wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:28 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: If I run cmd.exe and work my way down to .../idlelib, I find nothing but idle.bat. strange. Hidden? I can get into line mode by using python.exe. That is, I can type in print

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-27 Thread W. eWatson
On 7/27/2011 12:53 PM, Jerry Hill wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:34 PM, W. eWatsonwolftra...@invalid.com wrote: On 7/27/2011 9:48 AM, Jerry Hill wrote: So, you don't have an idle.py or idle.pyw in C:\Python26\Lib\idlelib\ (or where ever you installed python)? If not, it sounds to me like

Re: How do I access IDLE in Win7

2011-07-27 Thread W. eWatson
In the mean time, I punted and re-installed. It's still not quite right. I uninstalled it. I was asked during install if I wanted to remove c:\Python25. It was still there and had several folders (Lib, Scripts) and files (fishe.py, RemovePIL.exe, junk.py). I said yes. It installed 2.5.2.

Re: Python Portability

2010-08-08 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/8/2010 4:08 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: ... python-Numpy-1.2.0. No scipy anything. Well, this is interesting. I just noticed Martin v. Loewis on the Python 2.5 entry. That's you, right? You are conflating so many issues at the same time, it is very difficult to follow what you are doing.

Win7. Why Don't Matplotlib, ... Show up in Control Panel Add-Remove?

2010-08-08 Thread W. eWatson
See Subject. I use matplotlib, scipy, numpy and possibly one other module. If I go to the control panel, I only see numpy listed. Why? I use a search and find only numpy and Python itself. How can matplotlib and scipy be uninstalled? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Win7. Why Don't Matplotlib, ... Show up in Control Panel Add-Remove?

2010-08-08 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/8/2010 10:56 AM, Benjamin Kaplan wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:21 AM, David Robinowdrobi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Mark Lawrencebreamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: On 08/08/2010 17:16, W. eWatson wrote: See Subject. I use matplotlib, scipy, numpy and possibly

Re: Win7. Why Don't Matplotlib, ... Show up in Control Panel Add-Remove?

2010-08-08 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/8/2010 5:51 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:15:45 -0700, W. eWatson wrote: To suggest Google as above, makes no sense to me. This is the place to ask, as another poster stated. He may have stated it, but the evidence suggests he's wrong. You're asking a question about

Re: [Tutor] Finding the version # of a module, and py module problem

2010-08-07 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/6/2010 7:18 PM, Philip Semanchuk wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 3:14 PM, W. eWatson wrote: I must be missing something. I tried this. (Windows, IDLE, Python 2.5) Yes, as Benjamin Kaplan pointed out and as I said in the email where I posted this code snippet, dependencies is a list of custom

Re: Python Portability

2010-08-07 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/6/2010 2:23 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: In messagei3fpos$p7...@news.eternal-september.org, W. eWatson wrote: I made a one character change to it and sent him the new py file. He can't execute it. What exactly was the problem? I put a minus sign in front of a variable. I had him use

Re: Python Portability

2010-08-07 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/7/2010 2:01 PM, Michael Torrie wrote: On 08/07/2010 01:17 PM, W. eWatson wrote: Presumably I have him somehow delete the numpy site-package, the numpy 1.2.0 package? Just drill his way dow from the .../lib/site_packages? Then install 1.2.0. He's missed the boat on that before

Re: Python Portability

2010-08-07 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/7/2010 2:26 PM, Martin v. Loewis wrote: Am 07.08.2010 23:01, schrieb Michael Torrie: On 08/07/2010 01:17 PM, W. eWatson wrote: Presumably I have him somehow delete the numpy site-package, the numpy 1.2.0 package? Just drill his way dow from the .../lib/site_packages? Then install 1.2.0

Re: Python Portability

2010-08-07 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/7/2010 4:45 PM, Martin v. Loewis wrote: To add to the msg I just sent to M. Torrie. We are given the msi programs for Python, PIL,matplotlib, and numpy. The question of how to uninstall and re-install a different version remains. I'd claim that this is not the real question. The real

Re: Python Portability--Not very portable?

2010-08-06 Thread W. eWatson
I would think there are some small time and big time Python players who sell executable versions of their programs for profit? Yes. What's your point? That someone must know how to distribute them without having the source code ripped off. disutils. Sounds familiar. I'm pretty sure I was

Re: Python Portability--Not very portable?

2010-08-06 Thread W. eWatson
I can't respond to otten directly, since he uses gmane. Here's my response. W. eWatson wrote: I would think there are some small time and big time Python players who sell executable versions of their programs for profit? Yes. What's your point? That someone must know how

Re: Python Portability--Not very portable?

2010-08-06 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/6/2010 9:03 AM, Peter Otten wrote: ... Seriously, I try to make a joke once in a while, usually with devastating results. The idea you were meant to take away was that once you start thinking about a protection scheme there is always a next step until you reach the point where your

Re: [Tutor] Finding the version # of a module, and py module problem

2010-08-06 Thread W. eWatson
On 8/5/2010 6:47 PM, Philip Semanchuk wrote: On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:55 PM, W. eWatson wrote: It's been awhile since I've used python, and I recall there is a way to find the version number from the IDLE command line prompt. dir, help, __version.__? Hi Wayne, FYI it's got nothing to do

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