date:20170105

Lenovo T420
Qubes OS 3.2 R3.2

After following the instructions for setting up Kali using the Debian template
(https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/pentesting/kali/) and installing Kali tools using
the Katoolin option, I have found that attempting to resize the "Terminal"
application window within either the Kali template or the VM created from the
Kali template causes the VM to crash (green dot changes to yellow dot within
Qubes VM Manager, terminal window disappears).

- Start VM using Terminal App shortcut
- Terminal appears, green dot next to Template or VM in VM manager app as
expected
- Attempt to Resize terminal window using mouse to grab corner of window and
make it larger
- Terminal window frame flickers, along with the Window Manager Panel at the
bottom of the screen
- Terminal window disappears, VM icon changes to yellow in VM Manager. VM must
be manually shut down using VM manager or CLI.

This occurs ONLY with the modified Kali template / Kali VM created by cloning
the Debian template. It does not occur with the Terminal app in the built-in
Debian template. The Kali template was cloned from Debian and then "apt-get
distupgrade" was performed, which presumably is what is causing the difference
in behavior between the built-in Debian template and the modified Kali template.

Rys

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[qubes-users] Re: Resizing Terminal Window inside of Kali template cloned from Debian or Kali VM causes VM crash

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 9:59:49 AM UTC-8, morf...@gmail.com wrote:
> Lenovo T420
> Qubes OS 3.2 R3.2
> 
> After following the instructions for setting up Kali using the Debian 
> template (https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/pentesting/kali/) and installing Kali 
> tools using the Katoolin option, I have found that attempting to resize the 
> "Terminal" application window within either the Kali template or the VM 
> created from the Kali template causes the VM to crash (green dot changes to 
> yellow dot within Qubes VM Manager, terminal window disappears).
> 
> - Start VM using Terminal App shortcut
> - Terminal appears, green dot next to Template or VM in VM manager app as 
> expected
> - Attempt to Resize terminal window using mouse to grab corner of window and 
> make it larger
> - Terminal window frame flickers, along with the Window Manager Panel at the 
> bottom of the screen
> - Terminal window disappears, VM icon changes to yellow in VM Manager.  VM 
> must be manually shut down using VM manager or CLI.
> 
> This occurs ONLY with the modified Kali template / Kali VM created by cloning 
> the Debian template.  It does not occur with the Terminal app in the built-in 
> Debian template.   The Kali template was cloned from Debian and then "apt-get 
> distupgrade" was performed, which presumably is what is causing the 
> difference in behavior between the built-in Debian template and the modified 
> Kali template.
> 
> Rys

UPDATE:  I was able to use the solution mentioned in a similar thread "qvm-run 
vm "xterm" --pass-io" and the resulting xterm behaves normally.  Works for me.

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[qubes-users] Re: Resizing Terminal Window inside of Kali template cloned from Debian or Kali VM causes VM crash

UPDATE:  I was able to use the solution mentioned in a similar thread "qvm-run 
vm "xterm" --pass-io" and the resulting xterm behaves normally.  Works for me.

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[qubes-users] Re: Resizing Terminal Window inside of Kali template cloned from Debian or Kali VM causes VM crash

Adding "xterm" as a shortcut from the Apps manager also works properly.  So 
just avoid using "Terminal" from Debian VMs updated from the "stretch" repos 
and you should be fine.

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Re: [qubes-users] migration std. linux -> qubes : how integrate "old" user data

2017-01-05 Thread Unman

On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:40:45AM +0100, haa...@web.de wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> the question is in the title. I want to migrate from a standard linux
> distro (debian) to qubes. I have an internal with my old /home/ and I
> have the same content on an external hdd. The experimental qubes install
> went on an SDD. I guess that within qubes I should separate my old /home
> content in the appropriate qubes, otherwise I loose a big part of the
> aimed security. So just adding the (encrypted) /home to dom0 or
> somewhere else does not seem an intelligent way to procede.
> 
> Should I rather
> 
> a) shrink the luks system, generate a new one next to it, migrate say
> work into the new, delete work on old etc. to generate one luks volume
> per cube? OR
> 
> b) Since the install is new, re-do it, let qubes reformat the internal
> hdd as /home and then fetch my data from the backup?
> 
> 
> Thank you!  Bernhard
> 

Hi Bernhard,

Neither of these options seem particularly attractive to me. There is
no need to have separate volumes per qube, and I'm not clear why you
would want the hdd as /home, since that would put your data in dom0,
rather than in a qube.
If the motivation for (b) is space concerns then you should be aware that
most of the space is taken up with /var where the qubes are stored. You
can store some qubes on separate disks and link them to the SSD.

Perhaps you are in the process of migrating, and are going to dual boot
for a while, or perhaps you are ready to take the plunge. I don't know.
Either way you could start with what you have. Whether it will be easy
depends on how much you segment your life at the moment.

If you are going to dual boot, then you could take the opportunity to
segment the data in /home so that it works with Qubes. If you do this
for a while then you will end up with the data separated in to folders
representing the security domains that you want to use in Qubes. It's
quite clunky attaching the HDD to separate qubes: an alternative approach
might be to start copying data in to the qubes and then rsyncing back to
the HDD on those occasions when you want to use the data in your Debian
install.

I can't say I would recommend that method but it is workable and can
ease the transition to full time Qubes use. 
If you are already at that stage, then you have probably already thought about
the domains you want to have - I would create a few qubes to fill the needs in
each, and start moving data from the HDD in to those qubes. As the
balance of space usage changes you might want to resize the /home
partition on the HDD and create a new encrypted partition to store some
of the larger qubes.
You may find that you want to keep some data on a partition that you can
attach to a number of different qubes. Or you could create a storage
qube with large allocated /home and use it to share data between qubes
using ssh or samba. Qubes is flexible enough for all this.

I hope this helps somewhat

unman

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[qubes-users] Gaming on Qubes OS?

2017-01-05 Thread stevenwinderlich

Is it actually possible to game on Linux like on Windows 7 and up or is there 
any special requirement neccessary for this?

And would passing through a GPU via devices tab in VM settings actually be 
enough?

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[qubes-users] Re: Gaming on Qubes OS?

On Friday, 6 January 2017 09:44:30 UTC+11, stevenwi...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Is it actually possible to game on Linux like on Windows 7 and up or is there 
> any special requirement neccessary for this?
> 
> And would passing through a GPU via devices tab in VM settings actually be 
> enough?

All depends on what game you are referring to, and what it requires processor 
and RAM wise, and the speed it requires to pass information through.

I game on Linux using Steam.

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Re: [qubes-users] Gaming on Qubes OS?

2017-01-05 Thread Jake


in a way, we're all gambling with operating systems :)

big money, no serious xen exploits!


On 01/05/2017 04:44 PM, stevenwinderl...@gmail.com wrote:

Is it actually possible to game on Linux like on Windows 7 and up or is there 
any special requirement neccessary for this?

And would passing through a GPU via devices tab in VM settings actually be 
enough?



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[qubes-users] Re: Is Fedora Really A Good Choice For QubeOS?

The real question here I think is..
What needs to be installed in an O/S to create a new Dom0?

I've asked this before, and none answers the question.

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[qubes-users] Dom0 Update failed.

Hi folks.. 

Tried to do an update on Dom0, but it's failing, and I'm not getting the 
information I need to be able to resolve the issue.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Checking for dom0 updates...
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[qubes-users] Re: Gaming on Qubes OS?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:44:30 PM UTC-5, stevenwi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is it actually possible to game on Linux like on Windows 7 and up or is there 
> any special requirement neccessary for this?
> 
> And would passing through a GPU via devices tab in VM settings actually be 
> enough?

yes it is possible to game on linux.  I game on steam on a barebones debian 
system. cs:go and dota2 are some supported games. Some games are playable with 
play onlinux scripts using wine.But in Qubes-os vms do not have 3d graphics 
rendering,  so you can't really game in qubes.  It might be possible to 
pasthrough your gpu to a vm,  but this is not officially supported and not too 
many people have been sucessful.

On another note and imo,  playing online games defeats any security you have 
every time.  There is no such thing as security on your machine if gaming 
online.  Especially when your gpu gets infected.  Gaming online is where most 
cyber criminals get started.   They are the most hacked networks.  It is where 
Edward Snowden learned to hack people,  Sabu,  Kim Dotcom was notorious in q2. 
Online gaming communities,  where only hackers are left playing, are as 
dangerous as irc or the dark web.  They don't just want to ragequite you ddos 
the game offline and steal your credit cards,  they want to destroy your 
hardware.  Especially if you are not one of them (Russian)

Some argue if you have a separate gpu that is isolated from dom0 and only loads 
in a vm then maybe this would be safe.  But I still have my doubts.

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Re: [qubes-users] Trouble reading data CD under Qubes

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:49:35 AM UTC-5, Pawel Debski wrote:
> How do I check whether it is really mounted in dom0?
> (I think it is not, but maybe I'm doing something wrong
> 
> 
> notification bubble should pop up on the screen.  I think its usually sr0 
> or something. 
> 
> What would be the right command in Konsole?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Z powazaniem / Best Regards
> 
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Meilleures salutations
> 
> Pawel Debski

hmm fdisk? blkid?

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[qubes-users] Re: Gaming on Qubes OS?

2017-01-05 Thread stevenwinderlich

Im more talking about a Windows VM here. Is it enough to pass through a GPU in 
the devices tab of the settings or is there anything else that should be done?

And how would it be performance-wise overall?

Especially with Windows 8+ cause theres no official Qubes Tools Support there.

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[qubes-users] Re: Odd failure when trying to use Asus WL-167G with Qubes (both Fedora and Debian 8 VMs). Help :(

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 7:11:09 PM UTC-5, alefo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:52:28 AM UTC+3, alefo...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Steps to reproduce:
> > 1) have WL-167G
> > 2) have a separate USB controller (aside from the one mouse and keyboard 
> > are set to)
> > 3) create a VM (we'll use a Debian 8 one, fedora has exactly same bug, at 
> > least 23rd one), make it a network VM (it'll be using a wifi usb dongle 
> > after all)
> > 4) forward the USB controller to the VM
> > 5) connect WL-167G to the usb port
> > 6) install drivers in the VM (sudo apt-get install firmware-realtek)
> > 7) restart VM
> > 8) enjoy internet for a brief time (connects okay)
> > 9) start a long download  such as Qubes fedora 24 ( sudo qubes-dom0-update 
> > qubes-template-fedora-24)
> > 10) about 10 minutes in, connection permanently dies, and stays dead until 
> > VM reboot. Dmesg does not have any new messages after connection death, and 
> > neither does sudo journalctl -u NetworkManager
> > 
> > Please help. I don't have any other wifi dongles and won't have for a 
> > while, plus now I'm really really worried they will fail like this too.
> 
> Oh, and the adapter is the v3 version, supposedly well-supported by Qubes

I have an issue like this sometimes on an old lappy wifi.  Not sure what causes 
it,  but maybe a problem with the kernel.  see if you reloading the module 
helps instead of rebooting. thats what I have to do.  but I can go weeks 
without it happening before it happens.  Making think something happens in the 
air.   but might have to make a bug report to fedora or debian.

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[qubes-users] Re: [FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 6:12:57 PM UTC-5, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 4:15:08 PM UTC-4, Douglas Harding wrote:
> > I have reinstalled 4 times. Every time it was from a fresh install. 
> > 
> > A red "FAILED" pops up stating `[FAILED] Failed to start Load Kernel 
> > Modules`
> > 
> > Then I get failed messages at the bottom:
> > 
> > `nouveau :01:00.0: gr: failed to load fecs_inst`
> > `nouveau :01:00.0: DRM: Pointer to flat panel table invalid`
> > 
> > then it freezes so I have to do a hard reset.
> > 
> > The only issue I could think of (because nouveau) is that it's my graphics 
> > card, as nVidia has issues. However, when attempting to use the guide on 
> > the official Qubes website -- I do not have the ability to click 
> > `“failsafe” boot menu`as the only thing that shows up is:
> > 
> > `Qubes, with Xen hypervisor`
> > `Advanced Options for Qubes (with Xen hypervisor)`
> > 
> > When I follow "Advanced" I don't have options... However, [FAILED] is no 
> > longer red, it's just grey.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > What I have tried:
> > 
> > * reinstall several times
> > * make sure VT-D is enabled
> > * I hit "e" to do a temp edit the grub, added "failsafe" after "quiet boot" 
> > * I'm unable to access any logs, command sends me to the grub command 
> > prompt. 
> > * unplugging all but 1 monitor
> > 
> > -
> > Specs: 
> > 
> > CPU: i5-4570k
> > GPU: GTX 970
> > RAM: 24GB (well over the min. requirements)
> > SSD: 240GB (plenty of space)
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone offer assistance on this? Qubes has been my favorite distro to 
> > use out of the several I had been testing over the last few months. 
> > 
> > Thank you for your time,
> > Douglas Harding
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've been getting this message ever since loading 3.2 from scratch. It 
> doesn't appear to have any effect though.
> 
> Does anyone know the implication of this? Should I fix?
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick
> Dallas

I believe its harmeless.

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[qubes-users] Re: Gaming on Qubes OS?

On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 7:12:09 PM UTC-5, stevenwi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Im more talking about a Windows VM here. Is it enough to pass through a GPU 
> in the devices tab of the settings or is there anything else that should be 
> done?
> 
> And how would it be performance-wise overall?
> 
> Especially with Windows 8+ cause theres no official Qubes Tools Support there.

I've had no success passing through a pci device to a windows hvm.  But it give 
it a shot and try.

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Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 Update failed.

2017-01-05 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

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On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 04:01:11PM -0800, Drew White wrote:
> Hi folks.. 
> 
> Tried to do an update on Dom0, but it's failing, and I'm not getting the 
> information I need to be able to resolve the issue.

It's simple. You selected arbitrary subset of update, apparently
excluding packages required by those you've selected.

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Re: [qubes-users] Trouble reading data CD under Qubes

2017-01-05 Thread Unman

On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 04:11:21PM -0800, raahe...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, January 5, 2017 at 5:49:35 AM UTC-5, Pawel Debski wrote:
> > How do I check whether it is really mounted in dom0?
> > (I think it is not, but maybe I'm doing something wrong
> > 
> > 
> > notification bubble should pop up on the screen.  I think its usually 
> > sr0 or something. 
> > 
> > What would be the right command in Konsole?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Z powazaniem / Best Regards
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Meilleures salutations
> > 
> > Pawel Debski
> 
> hmm fdisk? blkid?
> 
Or the obvious:
mount -l
findmnt

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Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared

2017-01-05 Thread Otto Kratik

On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote:

> I'd expect to see the .desktop files.
> Here's a sample - save it as xfce4-terminal.desktop:

Thanks for your efforts to assist with this. I copied the text you posted and
saved it as a .desktop text file as you suggested, and then moved it into the
/usr/share/applications folder of dom0, and then rebooted.

It doesn't seem to have had any effect, though it's hard to tell since the xfce
"start menu" doesn't appear to even have a "system tools" menu entry to begin
with, unlike the kde plasma one. There is a "System" menu at the very top, but
that contains a whole gigantic mess of shortcuts from every VM I have, all
jumbled together in one big chaotic list. However, clumped together midway
through that menu are the few dom0 shortcuts I still have (apper, DispVM
Browser etc) and there doesn't seem to be any new item referencing the xfce4
terminal.

Is there anything else I can try at this point? I've noticed that I keep
getting notified that Qubes Dom0 updates are available, but whenever I run sudo
qubes-dom0-update it reports no packages to download, nothing to update.

Any other ideas or suggestions would be more than welcome. Thanks.

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[qubes-users] Re: Windows 7 Install Hangs At Starting Page

2017-01-05 Thread pixelite25

I am having the same issue but I never modified any 'conf file'. I am 
attempting to install Windows 7 Pro 64bit. The VM starts and I get the 
"Starting Windows" animating/glowing icon, which loops forever but no progress 
ever gets made beyond that.

I am at a loss as what to do, seeing that I've followed all instructions 
carefully and have no interactivity at this stage of the process. Thanks.

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[qubes-users] Re: Windows 7 Install Hangs At Starting Page

2017-01-05 Thread '01v3g4n10' via qubes-users

On Friday, January 6, 2017 at 2:55:17 AM UTC, pixel...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am having the same issue but I never modified any 'conf file'. I am 
> attempting to install Windows 7 Pro 64bit. The VM starts and I get the 
> "Starting Windows" animating/glowing icon, which loops forever but no 
> progress ever gets made beyond that.
> 
> I am at a loss as what to do, seeing that I've followed all instructions 
> carefully and have no interactivity at this stage of the process. Thanks.

I was having the same issue, but these instructions worked for me.
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2488

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[qubes-users] Re: Windows 7 Install Hangs At Starting Page

2017-01-05 Thread pixelite25

Just noticed your reply a bit down the list...will try that 16 step procedure 
and see if it works. Thanks!!

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Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 Update failed.

On Friday, 6 January 2017 11:39:36 UTC+11, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki  wrote:
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> On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 04:01:11PM -0800, Drew White wrote:
> > Hi folks.. 
> > 
> > Tried to do an update on Dom0, but it's failing, and I'm not getting the 
> > information I need to be able to resolve the issue.
> 
> It's simple. You selected arbitrary subset of update, apparently
> excluding packages required by those you've selected.
> 

It checked dependencies, it found there were none required. If they were 
required, it would have gotten the dependencies for the packages I requested to 
install. That is how it works because I didn't tell it to NOT get the 
dependencies.

If you look at the versions, it said I already have version 10 installed, so it 
skipped it. Why did it skip subversion 10 and not install 12 when it's supposed 
to update and do subversion 12?

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[qubes-users] PCIe Passthrough

Hi folks,

I'm wanting to assign a PCIe Socket to a guest before power-on, so it's never 
assigned to Dom0, is there any way to achieve this?

Or am I stuck only assigning a device to the guest after it's powered on?

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[qubes-users] Trouble seeing software installed in template vm in an appvm that uses the template

2017-01-05 Thread Brian LoBue


Hi All,

I've installed ruby in a fedora 24 template vm via "sudo yum install 
ruby". Everything seems fine at that point. "which ruby" points to 
"/usr/bin/ruby". When I start an appvm that is based on the fedora 24 
template vm "which ruby" indicates that no application is available. I'm 
guessing I've missed something obvious. Is there something I need to do 
to update the appvm's after installing software on the templatevm? Any 
help would be appreciated.


Thanks

Brian

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[qubes-users] Re: Trouble seeing software installed in template vm in an appvm that uses the template