Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread Hugh Smitham
Hi Bob, That's funny. The Ala Carte is my stop gap. I've got a 27.5 x 3" custom in the works. I sold my Atlantis so the Salsa is my adventure bike till I have my grubby hands on the baby fat. For about $80 shipped I figured it was a small price for all day comfort. We all have our logic. I have a

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
That's a promising report, Chris. I agree it takes a couple weeks to get "worked in" to a new saddle so I'll give it some time. If it doesn't work out I'll send it on and buy another B17, I'm more curious than anything. I'll take the lighter weight and easier care if I can get it, but B17s are

Re: [RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread René Sterental
Great photos and updates Val! René On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Valerie Yates wrote: > Thanks everyone for the kind words! Yes, Patrick, it was my first tour on > the Joe. It was great! I toured on a Surly Straggler 650B last year and > that bike had no life in it. The Joe is

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
you can bring it in a bit but make sure the FD will be able to adjust inward enough to drop the chain into the small ring Los Angeles Post This Father and Son Took the Same Photo 28 Years in a Row, Last One is ...

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread Chris Halasz
Tired of Brooks leather staining pants, I eagerly grabbed a C17 at an REI garage sale a year or so ago. Sitting on it the first time I was convinced it wasn't going to work, but I like to give a new saddle a full two week tryout. I'm not sure of the biomechanics, but it seems to take about

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Mike K.
Tried measuring a few extra times. Looks to be a little more than 1/4". So it seems there's some room to bring the crank closer. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 9:40:28 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote: > > Best I can measure with a tape is 1/4" or between 6 and 6.5mm > -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread kielsun
Folks, thanks for taking the time to respond. I appreciate all of your ideas and wish I had the cash to try them all! The Jones Loop is such a great-looking and seemingly versatile bar, so I'm considering a threadless stem adapter, like the VO one, and going that route, especially since I

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Mike K.
Best I can measure with a tape is 1/4" or between 6 and 6.5mm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
how much space is between the small ring and the chainstay? Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Mike K.
Yeah. It's an MT60 front derailleur. I can manually push it out far enough to center over the outer ring. When the chain is on the inner ring, I have to adjust the derailleur screw quite a bit and the chain almost rubs the cage as though I need to push the derailleur further from the seat

[RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Can you push the derailer far enough with your hand? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Jan Heine
You bring up good points. 1. Higher mass will slow you down climbing, but the question is how much. Realistically, the differences are very small. We tested a 650B randonneur bike with 42 mm tires against a titanium road bike with 25s. Both were excellent bikes, and their speed was the same.

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread René Sterental
FWIW, I converted two Rivendell bikes to low trail forks and liked them better that way, one I sold (Hunqapillar) and the other one I'm keeping (Atlantis). I preferred their handling vs. the original handling because I wanted front loads, and in the case of the Atlantis, because it shimmied for me

[RBW] Re: Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Mike K.
Another possibility: I am using some old Suntour stem-mounted shifters. Is it possible they aren't able to pull enough cable to get the derailleur out where it needs to go? If I traded them out for newer shifters could that make a difference? I don't plan on holding on to this bike for long, so

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Valerie Yates
Thanks everyone for the kind words! Yes, Patrick, it was my first tour on the Joe. It was great! I toured on a Surly Straggler 650B last year and that bike had no life in it. The Joe is fun to ride (and pretty to view) and that adds positive energy to the experience. Richard -- yes, those are

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread jeffrey kane
Reed -- there has been a near endless run of low vs not-low discussions here and on the iBob and the 650b list. I feel like I've read them all and agonized over the damn concept myself for years. But I've never seen a more sensible and succinct assessment of the whole thing than these quickly

[RBW] Re: FS- 64cm Wisconsin borne Samuel Hillborne frameset

2016-06-14 Thread ant ritchey
some one...stop me...please... On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 10:44:18 AM UTC-7, Kainalu wrote: > > Hi! > I've got a 65 Clem coming my way in July and was expecting to be riding > this Sam around until then, but then my appendix attacked, so I'm letting > it go (my tummy still hurts, doc says

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread ant ritchey
what riv calls the big wald plus marks or mini - fine from my experience. if you're gonna really push it i highly recommend using compression straps or bungees or whatever to triangulate, securing basket to bars. although this may not be ideal for drop bar use. works incredibly well on

Re: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 9 topics

2016-06-14 Thread Mary Gersemalina
bleep blorp! sent from my phone On Jun 14, 2016 3:39 PM, wrote: > rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Google > Groups >

[RBW] Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
I presume you're looking for an entire BB, but here's a 120 spindle if you need it. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bbs.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
The MAP is 650Bx42, and a 59 or 60 cm frame depending on how you measure. The VO is 700x32C. What I think of it is, it's fantastic. I'm sure Mitch's 700C randonneurs are as well. I am happy to have both, and would replace either if something terrible happened to it. On 06/14/2016 08:01

[RBW] Looking for 121mm bb spindle

2016-06-14 Thread Mike K.
Hey folks, I'm looking for a 121mm bb spindle, square taper. I have an old Hardrock I'm working on and right now it has a 124 on it now, but the front derailleur can't reach the outer ring. I've adjusted the screws on the derailleur and double and triple checked to make sure I have my shifter

Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
Sure thing Patrick. At the moment I've finally managed to patch a hole in one of the tires and have just gotten the air to stay inside. Current plan is to test them over the next week and a half and then ride them on the West Point Inn Riv Ramble if they hold up. Once I get home from that I should

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
Isn't that the truth Bill! Thanks for the advice. I think I'll finally sell that Madone and aim to train for and do my first brevet on the Hunqapillar. Then, if I like it, I'll start scheming around a low trail bike for brevets. Plus, that'll give me some good time to dream about what my ideal

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:34 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 06/14/2016 06:23 PM, Reed Kennedy wrote: > >> I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of >> their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently >> I've been reading

[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Evan Baird
I'm delighted by all the roadies buying 25c tires like they're going to have this religions experience or somthing. I just kind of sneer and explain that I never ride anything under 38mm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Evan Baird
I've been riding back to back rake comparisons for the last 2 years, and the conclusion I've come to is you'll probably get used to whatever you ride the most. IF you always carry stuff on your bike, and IF you prefer to keep it within reach, and IF you need to take your hands off the bars

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Val, Sweet! The San Juans are a stunningly beautiful and that is a wonderful and challenging route! Well done and what a great (I presume) Inaugural tour. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 8:49:09 AM UTC-6, Valerie Yates wrote: > > I just completed a credit card tour with my

Re: [RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/14/2016 06:23 PM, Reed Kennedy wrote: I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently I've been reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts on Jan Heine's blog. It's got

[RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread RichS
Michael, congratulations on your first Riv! Well done! You're gonna love it:) Richard On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:37:04 PM UTC-4, Michael Morrissey wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread RichS
Doug, Another example displaying the versatility of a Riv! On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 12:51:58 PM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote: > > In science, it's important that results are replicable - this means that > anybody doing the same experiment must get the same results. I was excited > to learn that

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Everything is best served with another bike. N+1. Always N+1. The correct question to ask yourself is NOT : "Do I need another bike?" The correct question is : "What should my next bike be?" :-) If I had the choice of doing a brevet on a drop-bar Hunqapillar that I bought for myself and

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread RichS
Valerie, Sweet looking Joe App and nice, informative ride report and pics! Looks like a great trip. In the second to last picture are the panniers the Berthoud special small model? Whatever they are I like them. What are your thoughts? Many thanks! Richard On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
Thanks very much for the thoughts, Bill! You described exactly the sort of experience I was hoping to hear about. I'm currently considering training for a couple brevets. I've never done one, and it both seems like an interesting challenge and a good training goal. At the moment the two most

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Reed asked: Does anyone have experience with both Rivvy (mid-trail, burly rigid frame, carrying stuff all over) and the more French rando / Jan sort of bike? What did you think of each? Yes I do. I think both are fine. Some people feel like it's a night and day kind of difference, and I

[RBW] Thoughts on the whole low trail thing?

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
I've been a Rivvy sorta guy for the last ten years, owning several of their bikes and numerous others built up in Riv-inspired ways. Recently I've been reading through back issues of Bicycle Quarterly, and back posts on Jan Heine's blog. It's got me wondering about this whole alternate-universe

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
Sounds like a plan. Thanks again to Jeff for the generous experiment! And Joe, if you do keep it, all I ask is a detailed review! Best, Reed On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > I'll make sure it gets to Reed if I don't end up making a 'buy' deal with >

Re: [RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread dougP
Kinda funny when you think about a Rivendell photo appearing on a triathlon blog. Next we'll see moustache bars replacing aeros. :-) dougP On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 2:07:19 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: > > He links to the original. A heads up would have been polite I suppose. > >

[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT: Looking for a 46cm Noodle Bar

2016-06-14 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Jack. I have one in excellent condition. Would $30 + shipping work? If so drop a line: hbclick at yahoo.com On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 2:31:39 PM UTC-6, Jack Barnes wrote: > > Like the title says, looking to buy a 46cm Nitto Noodle H-Bar. > > I have too many bars already to justify a

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread Robert Liebermann
I'm very loving butterfly bars on my 84 trek 830. http://hujev.net/image/med/700_4151.jpg (One drawback - no easy mirror location: and I don't like that s*Shh*s*Ha*aA *A*kkK*k*y kraut mirror!)

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Avery Wilson
Picture for reference: https://www.instagram.com/p/BGpqSWXTfyF/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread rodo...@verizon.net
I tried one and never made friends and have moved over to my new comfy Selle Anatomica. All the best. Roderick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Avery Wilson
I tried this and wasn't really comfortable with the flex, but that's a matter of personal opinion. I now use a Surly front rack with my large Wald, and it's perfect. The outer rails of the platform on the surly rack line up perfectly with the thicker wires of the Wald 139. Fortuitous. :) --

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Brad
On my Quickbeam, I use a large wald basket on a Nitto Mini (32F). I trimmed the rack down (clip off the top rim and fold the vertical pieces down) so that it cleared my handlebars. I use a platrack like Leslie, but I don't use the supports. Even the platform makes a big difference in how stiff

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Lungimsam
1. What does the higher mass do in regards to climbing? Help or hinder? I wonder at what point the mass is nullified by hysteresis, s-losses, and planing, supple tires, etc.? One could do alot of mixed variables tests to see how it all shakes out. 2. Also, what about tire sidewall deformation

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Peter White
Ah! The larger tire has more mass, so it would spin up slower. Other than that, I'm not qualified to give an opinion. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > Spin-up: > Starting from a stop and getting the bike revved-up to cruising speed > where one abandons

Re: [RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread cyclotourist
He links to the original. A heads up would have been polite I suppose. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:03 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > This would be the original image: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8622476729 > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Shoji Takahashi <

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Jack Barnes
I used a large Wald on a Mark's Rack for awhile, secured w/ loads of zipties. I had the same concerns initially, but it worked fine for moderate loads. I used the Lindsay method for modifying the Wald basket, which makes the basket a bit shallower, which means you probably won't overload it.

Re: [RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread cyclotourist
This would be the original image: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8622476729 On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > The article referenced by Jan features a French-blue Rivendell Road with > resist nomads: >

Re: [RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread cyclotourist
Hey, that picture does look familiar! Thanks for the heads up, Shoji! On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > The article referenced by Jan features a French-blue Rivendell Road with > resist nomads: >

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Lungimsam
Spin-up: Starting from a stop and getting the bike revved-up to cruising speed where one abandons standing on their pedals and takes their seat. "Spinning-up" the tires/bike from the stop to cruising speed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Leslie
FWIW, I use a Platrack on top of my rack, to which the basket is then attached, giving a better platform. https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/7729133174/in/album-72157623199721925/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/22755349636/in/album-72157623199721925/ I would suggest

[RBW] Re: Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
It is my opinion that an arbitrarily small support rack for a really large Wald basket will be fine. The failure mode you might experience if you load the basket too much will be sag. The unsupported parts of the basket will bend and droop. This is why some folks recommend a real porteur

[RBW] WTB/WTT: Looking for a 46cm Noodle Bar

2016-06-14 Thread Jack Barnes
Like the title says, looking to buy a 46cm Nitto Noodle H-Bar. I have too many bars already to justify a brand-spankin-new H-Bar, without checking here first. I can trade either a VO Rando Bar (48cm) or a Mark's Bar

Re: [RBW] Re: Separation anxiety at an all time high!!

2016-06-14 Thread masmojo
I got a Bosco not being used, but both sets of Albas are mounted on bikes. You know honestly the aluminum ones are fractionally lighter, but I like my steel ones better. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Peter White
Please define spin up? On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Lungimsam wrote: > What role does tire pressure and width play in difficulty/ease of tire > spin up? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Lungimsam
What role does tire pressure and width play in difficulty/ease of tire spin up? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
I'll make sure it gets to Reed if I don't end up making a 'buy' deal with Jeff first. Thanks for the road test! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Peter White
I remember being told this by one of the technical people from Michelin some 35 years ago at the east coast trade show - what is now Interbike in Las Vegas. They knew back then that very high pressures gave you no advantage. So this tendency for tire manufacturers in the past 30 years to rate

[RBW] Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Howard Hatten
I used a large wald attached to a nitto mini on my recent trip from Pittsburg to DC. Zip ties. I have drop bars and the only problem I had was a shimmy when I rode hands on the interrupters. With hands on the hoods it rode fine. I limited my weight to 10 lbs or less. I think if I was using one

[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Shoji Takahashi
The article referenced by Jan features a French-blue Rivendell Road with resist nomads: http://trstriathlon.com/talking-tires-with-joshua-poertner/ (I think this is David's bike, and I hope he's compensated given the reference to photopin license. His Flickr feed shows up as no commercial

[RBW] Wald Big Basket + Nitto small front racks

2016-06-14 Thread Minh
First off, i will not comment on how i secure my basket to my front racks. Second, is there any guidance (common sense or otherwise) about using the bigger wald basket on the smaller nitto racks (either M12, Nitto Mini, Mark's)? Should i limit myself to bulky but not heavy loads? I find

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Great pics, Val. Still smiling after climbing those hills-- says a lot! tailwinds, shoji On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-4, Valerie Yates wrote: > > I see what you are saying. :) It does feel rather like a dream. Here are > a few pics that my trip-mates took and shared. I plan

[RBW] FS- 64cm Wisconsin borne Samuel Hillborne frameset

2016-06-14 Thread Kainalu
Hi! I've got a 65 Clem coming my way in July and was expecting to be riding this Sam around until then, but then my appendix attacked, so I'm letting it go (my tummy still hurts, doc says absolutely no rolling until July). Included in the sale is everything seen in the photos ("SHORT"

[RBW] Re: Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thank you, Jan! What you said about the vibrations in the body (and thus the brain) and your being sore all over after testing, got a big "Yes!" from me, as I've found my brain energy is sucked out rapidly with stiffer tires. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 10:51:58 AM

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread RJM
For trail I would go with a flat bar, maybe stick those little bar ends on. I did a 6 hour MTB race and I rode a flat bar and the only thing I wish I added was those ergo bar end things where you can just grip on the end of the bar. I grip there now just using the end of the bar but those

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread Jeff Lesperance
I'll be sending my Cambium C17 out to Joe. I'll ask when he's done with it, to make it available to Reed if he wants to try it, and so on and so forth. On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Justin August wrote: > >

[RBW] Suspension Losses - Now Confirmed by Other Research

2016-06-14 Thread Jan Heine
In science, it's important that results are replicable - this means that anybody doing the same experiment must get the same results. I was excited to learn that recently, Joshua Poertner (formerly of Zipp, now of Silca) has replicated our results on tire pressure: Higher tire pressures don't

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
Sorry, Jack, those Noodles left on a Bridgestone RB-1 many years ago. I don't ride far/hard enough to make road bikes with drops work for me. I'm not really a cyclist, I'm more of a "ride arounder" ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread Hugh Smitham
I'm using the Jones bars on my 1995 Salsa Ala Carte. I really like them. One issue I'll mention, getting the bars up high enough were a challenge. I had a judy xc rockshox and the steerer was cut. I asked the forum where I could get a 1" threadless rigid fork? It was Joe Bunik that directed me

Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for the photos and the additional *apercus*. I'm particularly interested in your dirt surface impressions. Hell, y'all may just convert me to JAs/Clems/etc. and Wald baskets! But I will keep my drop bars, thank you. And by no means too many photos. Meshing this thread with the long stays

[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread Justin August
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 10:58:06 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: > > I bent mine already. > > https://flic.kr/p/H7ww3z > > > -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Valerie Yates
I see what you are saying. :) It does feel rather like a dream. Here are a few pics that my trip-mates took and shared. I plan to assemble my photos in an album in the next few days or so and will include a link. Lizard Head Pass:

Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I'll be very interested to hear your impressions of the improvement in ride between tubed and tubeless. In my very limited experience with 1.35 mm Kojaks, going from tubed to tubeless (light but otherwise standard butyl tubes) is almost like swapping said Kojaks with tubes for Compass Elk Pass

Re: [RBW] New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread Reed Kennedy
Gorgeous bike! And yeah, give the fatties a try. I didn't have much fun in traffic with the heavy 700 x 2.15" Marathons that Riv likes so much, but when I put a set of Schwalbe Big Ones on, wow! They still spin up nice and quick, and I feel like a human hovercraft. Just converted them to tubeless

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam / SimpleOne Sizing?

2016-06-14 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have an 89cm PBH anfd Grant has put me on a 61.5cm road bike. I am surprised he recommended a 61cm for you. Anyway I chose a 60cm Q for possible off-road riding. I have not found the lower TT to help or hinder when off-road. For one thing, this bike probably won't be used in the gnarliest

Re: Zip ties (WAS Re: [RBW] Re: Wald Basket??)

2016-06-14 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Just to resurrect the zip tie thread: the current BQ has a nice story of a ride from Cholula to Mexico City featuring a Firefly "Enduro All Road". Beautiful photos of Mexico, and nice studio photos of the Firefly bike-- featuring five or so black zip ties. This being a $8,900 bike (complete

[RBW] Re: New bike day! Apppaloosa!

2016-06-14 Thread RoadieRyan
Congrats -new bike day is the best. And as someone who went from 700x38c to 700x47c tires I saw go as fat as you can, its a blast. On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 1:37:04 PM UTC-7, Michael Morrissey wrote: > > >

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
I am highly partial to Albastache bars, and on a "too small" bike, would give Moustache bars a go. I think I have a pair if you're interested in trying (but they are 26.0mm, so need road brakes/shifters). Their positioning for what you describe is perfect for my version of the same type of

Re: [RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread René Sterental
Val... without photos we can't really tell if this trip exists or you just dreamed it! :-) Glad you had such a great experience! René On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Valerie Yates wrote: > I just completed a credit card tour with my Joe Appaloosa and wanted to > share my

[RBW] Re: Dialing in stem for rough stuff

2016-06-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Well described, Mark. The challenge of a bike that does 8+ hours a day on whatever, from paved to singletrack and the Hunqapillar is 100% there except for a few nit-picks. I'm am absolutely nit picking here. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 8:23:49 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer

Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts on Cambium?

2016-06-14 Thread René Sterental
Manny!!! How did you do that? On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:36 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: > "I bent mine already." > > Of course you did! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Moore
*I had front and rear panniers and a front basket for a total of 22 pounds of gear for the week. I didn't even notice the extra weight. The bike was very stable both on slow uphills and fast descents and was very fun to ride because I was so comfortable.* Valerie: very interesting writeup of the

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread Philip Kim
Ahearne MAP bars are awesome. Jones bars are probably favorite off-road bars, and slowly creeping on my favorite pavement bars. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 8:36:35 AM UTC-4, kielsun wrote: > > I hesitated posting this here, but it's definitely a Riv-inspired > conundrum. I'm building up a

[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Ebisu All-Purpose

2016-06-14 Thread S. Greco
I saw the one listed on ebay in person at French Fender Day this last fall . . . it is truly gorgeous. It's painted to match the owners wife's Alex Singer. They made a really awesome pair - the bikes as well as the owners. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Joe Appaloosa on tour

2016-06-14 Thread Valerie Yates
I just completed a credit card tour with my Joe Appaloosa and wanted to share my experience. I did the San Juan Skyway going clockwise from Durango CO. I loved the low gears, which made climbing easy, and the upright position, from which I could enjoy the spectacular scenery. I swapped the

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam / SimpleOne Sizing?

2016-06-14 Thread S. Greco
As a Simpleone owner who has had both a 62 and 60 I will say that you should seriously consider tire size before picking one if you are between sizes. The 62 would probably be no problem if you are running tires similar to that of your Roadeo - but if you plan on taking advantage of the

[RBW] Re: Dialing in stem for rough stuff

2016-06-14 Thread Mark Reimer
For what it's worth, most modern MTBs have very short stems relative to a rider's normal 'road' stem length. I was out mountain biking with a club a few weeks back and most people were running stems around 1-2cm shorter or more compared to road setups. I think the reasoning is that it makes the

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

2016-06-14 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Just to give a counter point to Richard's off-road observations, I have found long chainstays to be wonderful off-road. Now I have not ridden a bike with 21 inch CS like the 60cm Cheviot, but I have ridden 17 to 19 inch CS bikes. I have also ridden Surly bikes with rear dropouts/drop-ins where

Re: [RBW] Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread Eric Daume
How about a Surly Open bar? It has a decent amount of rise, and is usefully wider than a Clarence or Mary. Eric On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, kielsun wrote: > I hesitated posting this here, but it's definitely a Riv-inspired > conundrum. I'm building up a late 80s Rockhopper

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Jack B
Okay Joe, then do you have a 46 Noodle you'd like to sell me? ;-) On Tuesday, June 14, 2016, Joe Bernard wrote: > You're right on about the B135 and narrowness. Years ago I switched to > them from 46 Noodles thinking they would be similar in width at the brake > hoods, but

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Joe Bernard
You're right on about the B135 and narrowness. Years ago I switched to them from 46 Noodles thinking they would be similar in width at the brake hoods, but they felt MUCH narrower. I think Noodles are hard to beat for comfort in a drop bar (disclaimer: I don't use drops at all anymore). --

[RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Have you considered standard MTB bars? I've tried drops. I've tried cruiser bars. I've tried Albatross bars. I always go back to a traditional MTB bar with about 10 degrees of pullback and 38mm of rise. There's a reason most MTB's that get ridden off-road use that type of bar. A Jones

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Jack B
Yeah the B135 sounds like it would be a good fit, except for the limited width. 45cm in itself is almost wide enough, but that's measured c to c at the bar ends, right? That style of bar is going to be much narrower at the flats, I'd think. Sounds like I had my terminology wrong earlier when I

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Patrick Moore
+ 1 for the B 135 -- shortish reach and very comfortable upsweep. The Noodle sweeps back but not up; reach (I take it that Riv means effective reach) is 95 mm. So if you can stomach 1 more cm of reach, the B 135 may well be your boy. I see that Ben's Cycles has a 45 cm width model. So, yes, the

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Lungimsam
By "on the flats", are you meaning "tops", "ramps", or "drops"? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

2016-06-14 Thread Jon in central Colorado
Kielsun, Thanks for your input.Interesting. On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 6:17:29 AM UTC-6, kielsun wrote: > I've only spent about five minutes on a 60 Cheviot, so take this for FWIW, > but I did so immediately after finishing a ride on my 56 Sam. The Cheviot > felt super stable (in a good

Re: [RBW] Noodle bars: Any upsweep on the flats?

2016-06-14 Thread Tim Gavin
Nitto B135 Randonneur bars have shorter reach (105 mm) than the B132 and/or Grand Cru Randonneur bars (120 mm). Not as short-reach as the Mark's bar, but the B135 does have nice upswept flats and a nice amount of flare through the drops. I use the B135 on two bikes. Tim On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at

[RBW] Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

2016-06-14 Thread kielsun
I hesitated posting this here, but it's definitely a Riv-inspired conundrum. I'm building up a late 80s Rockhopper and having trouble finding the right handlebar setup. It will primarily be a trail and off-road camping bike with knobbies. I have my Sam for road riding and don't want much

[RBW] Re: Any benefits to the longer CS's?

2016-06-14 Thread kielsun
I've only spent about five minutes on a 60 Cheviot, so take this for FWIW, but I did so immediately after finishing a ride on my 56 Sam. The Cheviot felt super stable (in a good way), almost like I was an alligator and could feel my tail trailing predictably behind me as I turned--a weird

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