Also, I think the sealant gets between the bead and the rim and over time it
hardens and the air doesn't seep through, whereas when you first mount the tire
it still soft and air can seep out more easily.
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"The longer the tire is mounted the better it seems to hold air; up to the
point that it gets old. Makes sense really."
This must be related to something James said about Rene Herse tires seeping
from the sidewalls when new. I guess as you pile on the miles the goop gets
coated inside the
Well, I think that maybe if I was lighter than 230 I might be able to run a
lower pressure, but I found if I go down more than 6 or 7 Lbs. the bike is
noticeably slower & tires start to roll uncomfortably @ 25lbs. (Tire
examples: in the 650B X 42-47 range)
I tried Stan's on my first attempt &
I am not at all trying to be contradictory; quite the contrary; but I think
it's well to state one's own experience if it might help others. The Great,
Flaming, Roaring cosmic principle applies: *YMMV.*
My own experience is that even very thin-casing tubeless tires don't
require pumping any more
It's all relative really; if you are running lightweight tubes & tires then you
might not see a noticable difference in weight, but any weight saving is
really just a bonus. Now if for instance you are running something like
Marathons with those thick layers of flat prevention stuff (technical
Well I can't help ya with your concerns about "tubeless proponent", I started
on the side of not wanting to ever bother with the damn things again. I'm not
now suddenly a tubeless evangelist who thinks all tubed tires are evil, I'm
just trying to learn and be open to new stuff that might work
Sorry, I guess I'm just too dense to grasp implicit assumptions in 160 post
threads that wander about a bit. Some of the recent posts have an ok boomer
feel with a side of righteous certainty about the absolute superiority of
tubeless over tubes the denial of which could only be explained by
I helped a local friend spec her Clem L purchase recently, and we went with
upgraded lighter Velocity wheels and the Conti "Basketball" tires instead of
the usual Schwalbe rubber. The bike is of course not light, but it rolls like
a dream and she (an oboe player in her 60s) cruised a hilly
Yes, you can ride lighter/plusher tires at lower pressure with tubeless for a
similar 'no flatting' result than what something like a Schwalbe with a tube
and puncture protection would offer. Sure, if you're light yourself and want to
ride thin tires with thin tubes then maybe the benefits are
"But the reality is tubeless has weight and tire advantages that are
noticeable on a ride, ..."
I keep reading assertions like this, but I don't see how its true.
Re weight:
I have two 650b bikes. One is tubeless the other has tubes. The tubes I use
are 108gr (aka 3.8oz) schwalbe SV14
Wait. Are you saying Old Dog, New Trick!?
I don't recall ever reading an opinion by Grant regarding tubeless vs.
tube. Might have missed it, but it's not an area that has as much to do
with the things I was talking about a post or two back. I do suspect *most*
"tubeless ready" rims these days
I think the argument James is presenting applies to folks like me, a 57yo guy
who's been riding tubed tires for decades and knows what the deal is with them.
As I've expressed before (probably in this thread, definitely on this forum), I
struggled to figure out tubeless tires on a bike I owned
Well, Mark you read that correctly; back in the day I read articles Grant wrote
promoting the idea that one could ride skinny tires offroad and you didn't
really need big fat tires.
That's true, but big fat tires do make it more enjoyable.
So, yes the new hilly bikes and even the Clems are
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 , masmojo wrote:"*Grant does come around to
things it just takes time. Hilly bikes are not something he would have done
25 years ago, but here we are!"*
Again, this makes it sound as though Grant is stuck in the past but, given
enough time, will eventually come
leah wrote:
"But I had these battery lights. The rechargeable Cygolite is just the worst.
It would start flickering, threatening to die on me after only 45 minutes of
use. I hate it. Plus, it’s taking up real estate on my already crowded bars. I
will say my rack light that is battery operated
Everything new isn't better (like PF30 BBs), but plenty of old things, even
good old things are not as good as some of the newer things.
The things that work will stick around and the things that can be improved on
will fade away.
Yes, rim brakes can be just as effective, (sometimes more so)
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 James / Analog Cycles wrote: *"I think if
Rivendell was being created now, rather than in 1994, Grant would have a
very different view on tubeless, disc brakes, rim profiles etc."*
I disagree. Just because someone is a certain age doesn't mean all of their
likes
Always happy to be busy building nice wheels! It's a good chunk of our
business, and it's one we love doing. I've learned so much about building
wheels in the past 23 years of doing it. It's nice to be able to bring
that bear for folks... rims, spokes, even hubs are so much better today
"Masmojo, I am confused. What is not the case with a Clem?"
Sorry, poor segways maybe.
It's not the case that the Clem was not made to be comfortable, stable AND
light weight.
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I have the red Sport version. The main difference, based on their web site, is
that it reaches peak voltage at a slightly higher speed. Standard version
starts creating current at a lower speed. Tradeoff is that the Sport has
slightly lower drag.
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Which model are you using? Sport, treking, etc.
Thanks,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
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> One alternative to a standard donohue setup is an external generator.
> Velogical, a Germany company, came out a few years ago with a modern
>
The bottom line for me - which veers off into what *I* like cuz that's how
threads travel and I feel like I shouldn't keep guessing/presuming what Leah
wants - is Clems are awesome bikes and I think worthy of fancy wheels.
Which is going to translate to my upcoming custom, another frame I
Masmojo, I am confused. What is not the case with a Clem?
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 6:38:59 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
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> Ted, you are right both can be achieved (usually at high cost) if that is
> the goal, that's just not the case with a Clem.
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"it's designed around being a comfortable, smooth, stable ride & in that
context light weight is sort of antithema."
I'm not sure what antihema means but I think the implication is that light
weight is somehow at odds with a comfortable, smooth, stable ride.
I don't think that
Joe, Harsh? Maybe a little bit and maybe not 100% unintentionally.
As I said weight reduction on ANY bike is a good thing, but my point is the
Clem certainly doesn't seem like it's designed with an eye towards weight
saving, it's designed around being a comfortable, smooth, stable ride & in
Hey Roberta,
As you wrote "It's a trade off between utility and weight, I know." you've
clearly got a good handle on this thing.
Years ago (when they stocked toe clips) I went by RBW to pick between
regular and long soma dual gate toe clips. As I was eyeing the two
alternatives the guy
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:42:07 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:
> For true weight weeniedom you need to get out a kitchen scale and weigh the
> bag and saddles. I suspect leaving off the bag saves more weight than
> swapping to a no spring saddle.
Hi, Ted.
According to website, he saddle saves 3/4
"I applaud your efforts, but it's a bit like buying a chunk of lead &
complaining that it weighs too much."
I doubt you intended it, but that seems a little harsh. Nobody is trying to
make an ultralight Clem (and she *is* getting a different bike later), Leah's
just looking to improve a bike
For true weight weeniedom you need to get out a kitchen scale and weigh the bag
and saddles. I suspect leaving off the bag saves more weight than swapping to a
no spring saddle.
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Yes, I swapped my saddle and removed my Carradice Junior bag. It was still
heavy but so much better.
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> On Apr 12, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Leah Peterson wrote:
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Lightening our Rivendells...it’s what #RivSisters are doing this year. Yes,
Annie, I think you’re going to be so pleased, even with a little weight
savings. Roberta switched out her saddle yesterday from sprung to not sprung
and was amazed just at how great a difference that made.
I never
Leah, I've always thought the stock Clem L is a bit weighty. Mine is the 2016
version so I think it's the shorter version (though not the prettier sparkly
blue color like yours). But still it's heavier than I want it to be. Sure, it
climbs well, can haul weight, and is super on dirt roads. This
"And red spoke nipples too."
Absolutely!
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And red spoke nipples too
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"Leah, you seem to be getting all the cool mods on your bike. I'm a lil
envious. Who knew bikes could be so customized?"
Right?? I suspect her example is about to make the build on my
soon-to-be-here-hopefully custom MUCH more expensive. I have a basic silver
wheelset planned for it and
I love that video, it's so funny. I'm guessing you could entertain yourself
well as a child. I had one of each, my younger son would play and become
his toys...loved hearing him voice his action figures. My older son would
look at me like, what are we doing next? Ha
I have rarely ridden at
Son wide flange? Wide flange -> shorter axel stubs-> better aesthetics.
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Leah, you seem to be getting all the cool mods on your bike. I'm a lil
envious. Who knew bikes could be so customized?
Doug
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 1:27:54 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
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> Ooh, dynamo. I forgot to add that I got that with my wheel set, too! New
> wheels
Ooh, dynamo. I forgot to add that I got that with my wheel set, too! New wheels
new lights who dis?!?
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> On Apr 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, DHans wrote:
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> Wow, that is way cool, Eric. German engineering is so good and innovative,
> Doug
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>> On Friday, April 10, 2020 at
Wow, that is way cool, Eric. German engineering is so good and innovative,
Doug
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 1:18:44 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
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> One alternative to a standard donohue setup is an external generator.
> Velogical, a Germany company, came out a few years ago with a modern
>
One alternative to a standard donohue setup is an external generator.
Velogical, a Germany company, came out a few years ago with a modern
interpretation of the old bottle generators used in years past:
http://www.velogical-engineering.com
I’ve been using one for about six months now, and I’m
I'm pro Cheviot. Great name, great sheep. I liked Saluki, too.
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When I took my bikes in for service at REI the mechanics would always ask,
“Well, why is this one a Clem Smith Jr and this one a Clementine? What’s the
difference?” Oh, the naming thing was just so hard.
I was never fond of “Betty Foy”, either. But I loved the color scheme. I think
they did a
Way to go Leah!
A friend and I can't stop laughing at your remarks
We are both big Riv fans as well but that is a strange name in my view.
Put in the situation of reporting it stolen might cause the policeman to want
to do a breathalyzer test on the one reporting.
Laughter is good medicine,Paul
I decided to use the lightest rear rack (aluminum old school Trek USA) in my
rack collection during my quarantine Clem build. The build began as a Boeshield
frame spray so I really got a feel for the weight of the frame. Mines a 59, so
large. I’m sticking to only one rack, no fenders. Utility
I’m not fully committing to this yet. Roberta and I get into trouble because we
talk on Marco Polo and then we get ideas and then we like each other’s ideas
and the next thing we know our wallets are on fire.
So, I am ordering a Cheviot, and I am spending extra $ to build it with light
parts.
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