Re: [RBW] s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread James Warren
Looks good. I'll be around. -Jim W. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam. I'm pretty sure theres campsites up there. I think we picked the date of Aug 5.

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field

2013-08-01 Thread Matt Beebe
It's not actually clear which frames on the current geometry chart show the effective rather than actual TT lengths. I know for example that the Hunqapillar TT lengths listed are definitely not effective length though, I don't even think they are actual length. Matt On Thursday, August

[RBW] Re: Zurich bike shop recos?

2013-08-01 Thread SMP
Just in case anybody is interested, here is a video of the Velostatt bike shop in Berne http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtOFo02-PQM. On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 6:54:27 PM UTC+2, SMP wrote: Nice! Guess that makes 3 of us :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Zurich bike shop recos?

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
If your in Berne visiting the Einstein Museum is a must, fabulous. It's the entire third floor of the Historical Museum. Michael On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:40:47 PM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote: Well. I have wondered if the lady-friend and I are the only Riv owners on the continent. Glad to

[RBW] Re: Zurich bike shop recos?

2013-08-01 Thread SMP
I was only there for about an hour to see Velostatt and walk around a bit, but my train stops in Berne on my way to work just about every day. Perhaps on another evening I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the recommendation! On Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:02:18 PM UTC+2, Michael Hechmer

Re: [RBW] Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-01 Thread SMP
Oh no, I just posted a long reply with some clever easy on/off mounting options, but the post got deleted. Can anyone find it in their inbox? On Thursday, August 1, 2013 1:26:12 AM UTC+2, joe b. wrote: Sorry, I missed the part about mounting to a front rack and understand wanting to keep

Re: [RBW] FS: Kalloy Seatpost, Rivendell Hat, VO Bottom Bracket, Dia Compe Downtube Shifters

2013-08-01 Thread Johnny Alien
Shifters and cap are gone. The seatpost and bottom bracket are still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread allenmichael
Manny, Sounds fantastic. Where should we meet up? I'll be leaving from near downtown SF, Powell Bart area. Should I meet you down on the Embarcadero. Will you be pedi-cabbing that day? Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: During the Rumble Mike and

Re: [RBW] s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread Dan McNamara
I might be able to do that. Need to see about being late to work on Tuesday. Would need to meet up in Marin somewhere on Monday. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:41 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam. I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field

2013-08-01 Thread James Warren
The following frames do not have expanded geometry: Atlantis, AHH, Roadeo. The following do: Hillborne, Hunqapillar, Bombadil, San Marcos, Betty Foy The expanded ones are identified in the chart by their 6 degree toptube slope (if they have a TT.) Any in that category should be showing just

[RBW] Re: s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread William
Being an East Bay guy, I'm thinking about doing it *because *of the BART strike. How will you SF or Marin folks swing it in *spite of* a BART strike? Ferry!? That would be epic. I've taken a Ferry S24O LINK TO PROOF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo On Thursday, August 1, 2013

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Marc Irwin
It's not a crazy idea. I have been involved in similar plans before. It is really important to establish a date and place early and, as was mentioned geography can make a difference. FYI the Geographical Center of the Conterminous

Re: [RBW] Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
If we are serious, we should have a procedure like this: People bid by offering their area at a certain time, so for example, someone might bid Juneau, Alaska on the December 27-29, 2012. A bid in this case should be interpreted as volunteering to do the local organization, such as it is, which

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Liesl
good to see some excitement! My guess is that just about anywhere besides our own respective home states would involve some sort of driving/flying/training--so as long as it's near a major airport, etc, location actually is less critical than one might think. That said, location has to have

[RBW] Perspective

2013-08-01 Thread LeahFoy
I promised my little boys a bike ride in the cooler hours of a hot Nevada day. My 7 yr old is SO proud of his new Specialized Hotrock in 24 in. wheels. It's candy apple red and has been outfitted with a bell and kickstand. Come fall, I will put on a rack. My 4 yr old (rides two wheels) is

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field

2013-08-01 Thread Matt Beebe
Hi Jim, I measured a 58 and and a 62, though my measurements may have been off by half a centimeter give or take.The 58 seems to have a 61cm actual TT length, and the 62 has a 63cm actual TT length.Doing some trigonometry the 58 Hunq has about a 63cm effective TT and the 62 has about a

Re: [RBW] Perspective

2013-08-01 Thread Lyle Bogart
:-) that is just awesome. . . Lyle F Bogart DPT 156 Bradford Rd Wiscasset, ME 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 1 August 2013 11:07, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I promised my little boys a bike ride in the cooler hours of a hot Nevada day. My 7 yr old is SO proud of his new

Re: [RBW] Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-01 Thread Ron Mc
I agree with every sentiment above - they look cool, the hardware is neat, but the $90 needs to be strongly considered. A Wald basket is a better buy, but not near as cool. But then again, a Nitto mini rack and a front bag adds up to a lot more than $90. I could share your dilemma and

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fitting - A Mine Field

2013-08-01 Thread Shaun Meehan
I've got a 64cm LHT that replaced a 68cm Atlantis. There is probably 1 or 2 more cm of seatpost showing on the Trucker but I feel more comfortable on it. With spacers on the steerer the vertical relationship beween the saddle and the bars is the same as on the Atlantis (bars slightly higher than

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread allenmichael
I would be an especially poor organizer, but I would love to participate. bidding system seems like a good idea but we should settle on a date and location early while the idea has some momentum. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:40:24 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote: Do you think we could

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread iamkeith
Oh! I like this idea. Either Bellingham or Colorado Springs both work well for me (As well as any two places I could think of, actually. East coast would be pretty difficult.) A couple of suggestions: 1. Plans/itineraries, if this actually happens, should be firmed up by early- to

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I think it's a great idea. Speaking from this person's perspective, the things (to me) that make for a good location for a rally: - First and foremost, the allure of the location (in terms of adventure, natural beauty and rideability). If it lacks grandeur, so will the ride (I'm afraid) -

Re: [RBW] s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread Manuel Acosta
Wow didn't think anyone would be interested. Well here would be the loose details. Meet sometime in the afternoon at the Ferry Building, Pier 1. Maybe 11ish. Ride up to Railroad grade to the top of the West Point Inn. Down to the Pantol Station where is first come first serve at the Pantol

[RBW] Re: s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread allenmichael
I'm in. Details sound great. Pier 1 at 11 am. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam. I'm pretty sure theres campsites up there. I think we picked the date of Aug 5.

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Manuel Acosta
Bay Area is always a good place in the summer. What better place to have a Rivendell Jamboree then in the place where Rivendell Bicycle Works. I place my bid for China Camp beautiful campground that leaves the option of plenty of different level riding abilities for those not looking to go

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 11:29 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I think it's a great idea. Speaking from this person's perspective, the things (to me) that make for a good location for a rally: - First and foremost, the allure of the location (in terms of adventure, natural beauty and rideability). If it

Re: [RBW] s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
So this is an adventure where we're not riding to the campground after dark? If so, I'm IN. But I have terrible night vision, so if we're riding in the dark, I can't go. For me, riding in the dark on trails is very much akin to riding with my eyes shut. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Manuel

[RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
I've been thinking about riding the Great Divide. But I'd need a lot of persuading to know why I would want to use one of my Atlanti instead of a bike with a front suspension and disk brakes. I've heard a lot about washboards; would a big soft tire really be enough cushioning? On Wed, Jul 31,

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Ryan
Oh...sorry that's not mine...haven't posted mine...that is Cyclotourist's bike:) He often posts here and is the owner of a very lovely pair of blue rivendells..an A/R and a Road. Mine is Harvest Gold...have been swapping some things out and the Ciussis..which do work...may be replaced by

Re: [RBW] s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread William
Duh, I missed the detail. You said Tam, and I read Diablo. I'm out. Gotsta work On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:38:03 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Wow didn't think anyone would be interested. Well here would be the loose details. Meet sometime in the afternoon at the Ferry Building,

[RBW] Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread LeahFoy
In reading the thread about bike fit, I was reminded about another closely related topic: choosing a bike. I was in the market for a new bike, and after a lifetime of Target bikes, a REAL bike from an LBS seemed like a lofty goal. I hit the only LBS with a brand name I recognized - Trek.

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Michael Hechmer
I really like the way this is developing. To me central has nothing to do with geography and everything to do with access. From where I am in Vermont it's easier to get to Seattle than it is to Ashville, even though it's three times as far. I like the idea of the PNW. As much as I love the

Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Lyle Bogart
Anne, I've been contemplating riding the Great Divide for a couple of years now--time has been the big issue--but I will certainly ride either my Atlantis or my Rawland Drakkar (set up very much like the Atlantis, but fixed gear) when I do. I've extensively ridden both bikes over washboards and

[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Mike Schiller
I'd love to ride the Great Divide. Not sure you need suspension/discs but 2 wide knobby tires would make it a lot more enjoyable. The whole thing is a big chunk to bite off but a 1 week section could be really fun. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
I like the idea of the Pacific Northwest too. We've already heard from Bellingham, but what about the Portland folks? On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: I really like the way this is developing. To me central has nothing to do with geography and

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Montclair BobbyB
You know, I should have anticipated a response from you, Steve :) First, I did include rideability in my location criteria... I should probably have also included cultural/historical significance, too. For example, the Great Allegheny Passage has the romance of old train lines, industrial

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
Is a 2 knobby two inches including knobs? Or is a 2 knobby a 2 tire and then knobs put on? On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: I'd love to ride the Great Divide. Not sure you need suspension/discs but 2 wide knobby tires would make it a lot more

[RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread Zack
I have a good story - the same but different. I got back into cycling as an adult when a friend gave me a 54 cm Trek 520 touring bike. I am 6'3. The bike is great, but it was OBVIOUSLY too small for me. I rode it anyway, used it for transportation, and loved it. I decided I wanted to get a

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 12:44 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: You know, I should have anticipated a response from you, Steve :) First, I did include rideability in my location criteria... I should probably have also included cultural/historical significance, too. For example, the Great Allegheny Passage

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Mike Schiller
a few mm isn't that big a deal if you are on something close. I'd choose the widest tire you can fit with room for mud. ~mike On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:44:35 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Is a 2 knobby two inches including knobs? Or is a 2 knobby a 2 tire and then knobs put on? On

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Peter Morgano
Agreed, I love a nice long ride but there had better be a shower and comfy bed on the other side. Even as a boy scout I hated camping. I just don't get the appeal but to each their own. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 08/01/2013 12:44 PM, Montclair

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread dougP
The transportation issue can be a bit daunting for those who've not traveled much with their bike. However, there are several options: 1. Fly take your bike as checked luggage. Most expensive; requires partial dis-assembly of the bike; hazards of baggage handlers. 2. Fly ship your bike

[RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread dougP
LeahFoy: Your experience with bike shops is one that repeats often. For some reason we expect bike shop people to be above selling what's on the floor but alas, in many cases, it just ain't so. Fortunately you found Rivendell. I've mused on how much better the bike shop experience could be

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Reid
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:41:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Bay Area is always a good place in the summer. What better place to have a Rivendell Jamboree then in the place where Rivendell Bicycle Works. I place my bid for China Camp beautiful campground that leaves the option of

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
Doug, you're right, but also the employees in these offending bike shops need to have a better idea of what kind of bike suits what kind of riding, instead of steering everyone to racy carbon fiber bikes with low handlebars and narrow tires. After all, LeahFoy clearly explained what she wanted her

[RBW] Re: Perspective

2013-08-01 Thread dougP
Don't we always take better care of our kids than ourselves? Your sacrifice is admirable :-). dougP On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:07:38 AM UTC-7, LeahFoy wrote: I promised my little boys a bike ride in the cooler hours of a hot Nevada day. My 7 yr old is SO proud of his new Specialized

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
It sounds like some people want motel lodging. If we go to China Camp, where would those people stay, and how expensive would it be? The Bay Area is a pricey area. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Reid reidp...@earthlink.net wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:41:32 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta

[RBW] Re: s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread dougP
Shucks, I shoulda just come north with Jim last Sunday instead of coming home! dougP On Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:41:14 AM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote: I'm in. Details sound great. Pier 1 at 11 am. Michael Allen On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: During

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread Ron Mc
comfortable, useful, efficient, fast - I'm sorry, you'll have to pick one - we don't have a pigeonhole for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

[RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Lynne Fitz
You buy the King cages when your VO cages break. Like both of mine. Although, if I could weld aluminum, or whatever it is you do, they could be repaired. On Monday, May 20, 2013 6:08:56 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Finally a nice wire cage that keeps bottles from falling out the side.

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I've used the Nitto butterfly cages, the VO similars as well as the VO retros, and the King Irises, and I've managed to break two Nittos and (IIRC) one VO but never a King, even with almost 30 oz double wall steel bottles (= long and heavy). The King's don't look as shiny but IMO they are the best

[RBW] WTT: Good condition 622X60 mm Liteskin Big Apples for lighter 700C knobbies

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
May also be willing to trade a pair of 622X35, folding Kojaks for same. The BAs are almost new (may in fact be unused, but I got them second hand) and the Kojaks have less than 1,000 miles. I'm looking for sub 600 gram tires in a width of at least 45, best would be 55 mm. The whole point of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread LeahFoy
Also, there is a certain attitude one often encounters in some shops. My sister and her husband lived downtown in a big city when her husband was going through law school. He used a bicycle to get around, and one day, it needed some repair work. Heather took the bike in to the shop, and will

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 01:58 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I've used the Nitto butterfly cages, the VO similars as well as the VO retros, and the King Irises, and I've managed to break two Nittos and (IIRC) one VO but never a King, even with almost 30 oz double wall steel bottles (= long and heavy). The

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Well, they are comparable for the use of heavy bottles, right? At any rate, I prefer a duller finish with worry free strength than shiny and cool with less strength. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 08/01/2013 01:58 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I've used

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Lee Chae
There's a Motel 6 and a Travelodge in San Rafael, about 4 miles from the campgrounds. There's also an Embassy Suites less than 2 miles away from it. The first two seem to be around $70/night for a king bed, and the Embassy Suites about $170 (all current rates). Admin Jim Cyclofiend has been known

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 02:07 PM, LeahFoy wrote: I wheeled the little 16 in Trek Jet to the counter and waited. There was one other customer in the whole store and 3-4 employees working. I stood at that counter for almost 20 minutes. They joked with each other, and paid attention to the lycra-clad male

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 02:13 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, they are comparable for the use of heavy bottles, right? No. You should NOT put heavy bottles into the Nitto Butterfly, It's totally unsuited. As you well know. At any rate, I prefer a duller finish with worry free strength than shiny

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I don't know if Target Schwinns are as bad as Walmart specials, but working at Stevie's that specializes in everyday riders and older bikes I get all sorts of customers wanting to put right cheap chain store bikes that are -- how to express it sufficiently strongly -- amazingly badly built; like

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
No, no, no: my point is that you CAN and even MUST compare them in regard of this use, in which case you will choose the Iris and not the Butterfly. I've no problem getting bottles out of my 5 Iris cages -- better work on that forearm and grip strength. Patrick Moore, who is being deliberately

[RBW] Re: Perspective

2013-08-01 Thread Ron Mc
good answer dad. On Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:07:38 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: I promised my little boys a bike ride in the cooler hours of a hot Nevada day. My 7 yr old is SO proud of his new Specialized Hotrock in 24 in. wheels. It's candy apple red and has been outfitted with a bell

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Christopher Chen
I think the Portland group is strong enough to possibly bid for something next year. ODOT is working to complete the sections of the Historic Columbia River Highway so we can ride from Portland to Hood River without using the interstate: I think that would be an excellent option--there are nice

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread JL
This is a great idea. It would be wonderful if it caught on and rotated cities like NAHBS does. I am from the bay area but bellingham gets my vote. July dates work well. Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
How about if we say that we'll vote on the place and time one week from today, or something like that? That gives everyone a chance to offer different alternatives, so we don't settle on the first idea that is suggested. Manny's China Camp proposal sounds great, but a Pacific Northwest gathering

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I'd try to go if it's Portland as I have family there. The Bay Area is possible as well and perhaps even Bellingham (it's trickier for me). I have to be in Boise, ID on July 11-13 so I'd love the Jamboree to be the next weekend as I could make it an extended trip and cycle both in Boise and at the

[RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Zack
Iris cages are, in my experience, the best for carrying kleen kanteen insulated bottles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place that would have rooms for those who want to sleep indoors and a lawn for those who want to throw a sleeping bag on the ground. The Coastal Mountain Sport Haus http://coastalmountainsporthaus.com is in the coast range west of Portland, so not

[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I rode a bunch of the Montana section last year on my Disc Trucker with 26x2 Schwalbe Mondial tires. Some of it was pretty arduous, with rocks the size of baby heads nested in a bed of loose sandy stuff (mostly accumulated at the bottoms of big hills). It was doable for me, but I think a 2.3

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
Babyhead rocks, and sand, and steep hills? The Defense of 2.3 Knobbies and Disk Brakes rests, your honor. I like underbiking, but not that far under. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I rode a bunch of the Montana section last year on my

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Another similar but different idea... Bridal Veil Lodgehttp://www.bridalveillodge.comin the Columbia Gorge. Once upon a time they had a campground, but now it's only indoor lodging. I spoke to them last year and they said they've talked about opening up for camping but haven't gotten the ball

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Jim Mather
For the Bay Area, there are hostels in the Marin headlands and in Pt. Reyes. You can reserve them as a group, but you'd need to do it soon, I'm sure. jim m wc ca On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if we could find some sort of BB type place

[RBW] CO Canal/GAP Trail Week of Aug 12-19

2013-08-01 Thread WETH
Would any 'RBW Friends' be interested in joining me to ride part or all of the CO Canal http://www.bikewashington.org/canal/ and/or GAP Trailhttp://www.atatrail.org/ sometime between August 12-19? A friend and I had scheduled the week of August 12th to cycle the CO Canal. We were going to

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Anne Paulson
I suggest that we provide an actual motel/inn option, rather than hostels. Some people prefer privacy. Also, if we have a motel option, people can reserve on their own, rather than an organizer reserving a block at a hostel and then finding people cancelling. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Jim

[RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread franklyn
My wife and I just came back from a trip to the San Juan Islands, and many riding options are available. On Lopez Islandhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157634583984583/with/9260436668/, we stayed at a private campgroundhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/9260477134/that also

[RBW] Re: Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Matt Beebe
I have ridden the northern part of the divide, using 40mm tires fully loaded on a regular touring bike, and I would definitely not hesitate to do it on an Atlantis.Parts of it were gnarly, but they were not that long and were actually kind of fun.I found that those washboard roads go

[RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.

2013-08-01 Thread Tom Virgil
A ride up Camp Pendleton from Oceanside in late afternoon or early evening is a very nice experience. A call to the Public Affairs Officer (PAO) at (760)-725-5799 or e-mail mcb.cpen.com...@usmc.mil can help clarify access. There are no longer blanket long term closures, but some USMC

[RBW] Re: s240 Mt Tam (Paging Mike Allen)

2013-08-01 Thread brianweee
Pantoll station has a Hike or Bike campsite! $5 per person. I S240ed with a friend recently :) On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: During the Rumble Mike and I talked about doing an overnighter up Mt.Tam. I'm pretty sure theres campsites up there. I think we

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Tonester
The BMW Moto guys have rallies every year and tend to bias towards one coast or another on alternate years. A great idea! I think that a train ride to a cool location would be the bomb! On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:28:28 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: I really like the way this is

Re: [RBW] Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-01 Thread SMP
@Peter - Yes, definitely more expensive than NYC. I think the rack seems to be the best bet. @Joe - The dropout was a nice, unexpected touch, upon the arrival of my frame. Although zip ties are one way of doing it, it's not as 'easy on/easy off' as I would like. I am wondering if something

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Cecily Walker
I'm just up the road from Bellingham in Vancouver, BC and I'm willing to help however I can. And hey - maybe by the time the rally happens, I'll have my Betty Foy! ;-) Cecily (frequent lurker who pops her head in now and again) On Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:42:58 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

[RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-01 Thread Tom Virgil
You ask if this is a terrible idea. Your bike is drop dead gorgeous. I also think the crates are wonderfully crafted. But I think the crates are substantial, wooden things with metal corners (perhaps, not the Autumn, but it is angular). They are quite elegant. I don't want to crash with

Re: [RBW] Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.

2013-08-01 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Hugh, count me in. A great way to end the summer. On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, hsmitham wrote: Ok I booked it cause I was afraid it would be gone! So I'm all the way in. Mike sorry you can't but this was short notice so I sort of expected this would happen with some. Anyway we can work on

Re: [RBW] Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.

2013-08-01 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Oh no, I just thought of something that may prevent me from going...Homer can't swim. On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, Curtis McKenzie wrote: Hugh, count me in. A great way to end the summer. On Wednesday, July 31, 2013, hsmitham wrote: Ok I booked it cause I was afraid it would be gone! So

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Donald Lee
Thanks Chris. I'll pick up an Iris next time I'm in Walnut Creek. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Peter
Hi everyone. Please tell me what tire and width of tire you'd recommend for a novice commuter riding on wet (rainy) and poor city streets. I find that I don't feel very safe on wet streets and thus suffer a loss of confidence unless I ride quite slowly--obviously I want to keep riding and

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread David Hays
I'm also a BMW motorcycle rider. I go to the Watkins Glen, New York finger Lakes rally every year Labor Day weekend. It's run the the Finger Lakes BMW Club. The national rally run by the BMW Motorcyles Owners of America(BMWMOA) moves across the country in three consecutive years I

[RBW] Re: Jenny's fixie FS

2013-08-01 Thread jenny klug
oh my goodness! this makes me happier than you could imagine. hope to see you guys around the neighborhood sometime! thanks again, --jenny @ RBW On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 5:00:38 PM UTC-7, Donald Lee wrote: I should thank you Jenny, rest assured the kids will have great times after they

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Liesl
On Thursday, August 1, 2013 2:15:51 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: How about if we say that we'll vote on the place and time one week from today, or something like that? That gives everyone a chance to offer different alternatives, so we don't settle on the first idea that is suggested.

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I can't answer the question directly, but this indirect information may be worth the stating: I long ago found that treadless tires, particularly Fat Boys, were much more likely to slip on wet streets than other tires I used on the same bikes, these including similarly wide (nominal 35, more like

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 12:16 AM, Peter wrote: Hi everyone. Please tell me what tire and width of tire you'd recommend for a novice commuter riding on wet (rainy) and poor city streets. I find that I don't feel very safe on wet streets and thus suffer a loss of confidence unless I ride quite

[RBW] Re: Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Ryan
Hi Peter I ride commute regularly (spring,summer,fall) on Panaracer Paselas...either 26 X 1.5 or 700c X 35mm @70-80psi. These have a round profile and a nice chevron-type tread. If your Cannondale is a touring bike , the 700c size might work, but how fat a tire you can use dpends on

Re: [RBW] Re: Crazy Idea: Riv National Jamboree

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
If this is to be a national get together, can we have it in the exact geometrical center of the country? Just kidding about that, but somewhere more or less accessible to the majority of participants would be nice to consider. Colorado? Of course, if most of the interested parties are in the

[RBW] Re: FS: Kalloy Seatpost, Rivendell Hat, VO Bottom Bracket, Dia Compe Downtube Shifters

2013-08-01 Thread Johnny Alien
All that's left is the seatpost. It's brand new and a pretty decent post and pretty lightweight. 27.2 X 300 And only $15 shipped!! http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/null_zpsdb5c0e7e.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/null_zps1e13b4b8.jpg On Wednesday,

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Christopher Chen
I would ride the biggest Schwalbe Marathon's you can. I currently run 700C x 38, but I think your C-dale will probably only take up to 28s? In either case, I've done some accidental test runs, and they're pretty good (as long as you stay on the tread--the sidewalls don't corner too well on wet

[RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
http://lawandordermag.epubxp.**com/i/144260/54http://lawandordermag.epubxp.com/i/144260/54 Very much worth reading, and thanks to the boblister who posted it on that list. I think it worth posting on this one. I, an urban commuter since roughly 1967, learned new things. Note that, with a bit of

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I believe -- this is a suggestion, not a pronouncement -- that tread and rubber quality are more important than width. Come to think of it, I also commuted with 26X32 mm Paselas and, while I did not find these sturdy, they posed no problem in the rain. Note that I don't ride often in the rain,

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Christopher Chen
Yes, this is true, Patrick, but he said he rides on some crappy (or poor) roads, where volume matters. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I believe -- this is a suggestion, not a pronouncement -- that tread and rubber quality are more important than

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread hsmitham
Steve, I like being able to get the bottles out while I am riding, and I couldn't do that with the King Iris, and god knows I tried. -more beer curls will help :-) ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Tires for wet roads

2013-08-01 Thread Patrick Moore
I agree to a point, though I've commuted on bad city pavement (eastern Copper, NE, and adjacent streets, including the Fairgrounds, here in ABQ, NM -- pretty rough stuff) with Paselas, and in fact much narrower, with no problems wet or dry (175, with loads). I want to point out the option of

Re: [RBW] Re: NITTO-esqe new King cages on Riv now for cheap!

2013-08-01 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/01/2013 06:59 PM, hsmitham wrote: Steve, I like being able to get the bottles out while I am riding, and I couldn't do that with the King Iris, and god knows I tried. -more beer curls will help :-) That wouldn't help: you have to pull straight out to extract a bottle from a King

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