Re: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 PA out - again...

2004-09-08 Thread Doug Bade
That would seem more likely, although damage should occur to more things... Doug Bade Cleveland Comms. At 10:00 AM 9/7/2004, you wrote: I have an MSR2000 on 444.550 for the local ham club / county EMA. The PA (a 110W model) is out again. We just had this repaired by the local Motorola

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MastrII base/rptr CG card problems

2004-09-08 Thread Doug Bade
provide your own pullup, H41-42 must be installed... as that is the normal source of pullup on the rx-mute control line. Doug Bade Cleveland Comms. KB8GVQ At 09:48 AM 9/7/2004, you wrote: I cannot get the CG card to work in a base/rptr MastrII. I've tried 2 dip switch and 1 versatone CG card and Pin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola oscillator

2004-09-08 Thread Doug Bade
If it is from a Purc ( which it does sound like) it is the ref oscillator for up to and including 900 mhz simulcast stations. Freq stability from it at 900 usually holds a hertz or 2 at a ghz... as long as outside temp does not fluctuate too much or quick. It takes a good day or so

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing

2004-09-18 Thread Doug Bade
I am dealing with a similar problem with a Mastr II and a NHRC controller. The audio sometimes fades out dropping to a very low level, and changes while you are listening to it on a repeater user, although it comes back all by itself. It seems to be an analog problem as opposed to just cutting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] SWR at Isolator-input

2004-10-03 Thread Doug Bade
2 watts reflected into the isolator does not sound good. It should have better return loss than that unless it is tuned wrong.. I would double check tuning and try capping it with a dummy load on the output side ( where the tx duplexer port goes) and see if it is different. An

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Control Panel PDF needed

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Bade
For others who may be looking for it, I have posted it at our website... Here is the URL; http://ohioaprs.net/files/doug/Mastr_II_Station_LBI%27s_Misc/31807d_IDA_Repeater_Control_Panel.pdf Doug KB8GVQ At 09:55 AM 10/25/2004, you wrote: In all of my Ericsson Tech CD's I cannot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Micor for 900 mhz

2004-10-27 Thread Doug Bade
No amateur manufactured radio's, however at least 12-15 models of 900 and some 800 commercial can be readily moved.. There are currently about 100 repeaters on 902/927 pairings in the US, most of which are less than 3 years old.. there is a significant effort to modify and build, and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radios for 900 mhz

2004-10-27 Thread Doug Bade
... 73's Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radios for 900 mhz Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No Amateur

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Radios for 900 mhz

2004-10-31 Thread Doug Bade
The synthesized version is not readily convertible, the crystal control conversion version is the one referred to... Doug KB8GVQ At 01:41 PM 10/31/2004, you wrote: I SAW THE DARCOM 9000 LISTED, SO HAVING ONE IN THE CABINET STILL 1. DOSE ANYONE STILL HAVE THE SOFTWARE FRO PROGRAMMING THE

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the list...

2004-11-21 Thread Doug Bade
I use omni page pro.. if you look around you can find versions for 150.00 or so that are slightly crippled, but can handle 60 pages with no trouble. Scan the pages directly into the pdf... Doug KB8GVQ At 06:16 PM 11/20/2004, you wrote: I've run into a situation, and thought I'd tap the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MastrIIe interface

2004-11-28 Thread Doug Bade
John; I am working on developing and documenting a more intrusive connection method which may turn out to be a best method however, the simpler solution would be to take control of the audio to the tx by connecting directly at the exciter door, and use discriminator or vol hi for rx

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ho! Ho! Ho!

2004-12-03 Thread Doug Bade
I have some GE Mastr III 860 amps, which I am selling, which are rated at 110w on 26-28vdc.. +10dbm drive. They make 100 or better on 927.9875 and below. Most do 110w. Size is comparable to a Mastr II station PA. Asking what I consider to be quite reasonable The Maxtrac Exciter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II question

2004-12-22 Thread Doug Bade
The main problem to watch for is heat/swr issues on the PA as it is potentially going to cook itself at full rated power with a high duty cycle... It will make full power and full sensitivity in 52/53 mhz, but I would de-rate the PA by a bit to protect it if it is going to be on a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II question

2004-12-22 Thread Doug Bade
Kevin; I would watch the voltage feed to the PA as just as important as the specific power level.. The GE power Supply idles high ~15v but drops into the lower 12.x volts under full load, you can watch it load down as you increase power. An Astron RS50 for instance may be set

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 meg stuff

2004-12-23 Thread Doug Bade
Jed; There are several models which can do this... Motorola Spectra 900 for one, GE TMX9315, Motorola Maxtrac 900 with help... GE MDX 900 mhz with some additional hardware. The Spectra is probably the easiest of the lot... Some Kenwood 900's can do too, as well as Motorola GTX.. ALL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Low Band GE MVP ?

2005-01-05 Thread Doug Bade
30-36 36-42 42-50 are the splits. If you are going to use them for amateur, I suggest not trying to move a mid split to 10m or 6m, but only use the adjacent one Doug KB8GVQ At 11:57 AM 1/5/2005, you wrote: Anyone have at least one or two low band GE MVP Radios they'd like to sell (or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Master II history dates

2005-01-25 Thread Doug Bade
Basing on sales we did in or around the beginning and the end of the productions and digging into the memory banks ... Someone may be able to pinpoint closer butthis should be pretty close... 1971 I believe was the first Mastr II mobile production, State of Ohio took delivery of about

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 Mhz Ham

2005-02-03 Thread Doug Bade
Hello Steve; There is a pretty large group of builders assembled in one place, and hopefully the list owner here will not mind the link post as O.T., but the group is 900 centric and focused with some 700 list members... it is here at yahoogroups and it is called AR902MHZ. It is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Rx Freq Drift

2005-02-07 Thread Doug Bade
It is not normal for ICM re-stuffs to drift like that. I would suggest checking and monitoring the comp line and the 10v reg supply. Both could exert that much error on the FO that quickly... more likely suspect. Doug KB8GVQ At 03:19 PM 2/7/2005, you wrote: I recently rebuilt my 440

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola 900 MHz Canopy and Amateur 900 MHz Repeater????

2005-02-12 Thread Doug Bade
Amateur radio is co-secondary with all part 15 users ( which includes WISP users) . We are all secondary to primary licensee's in the Alarm industry who bought licenses in this band. They are the only licensed primary users I am aware of. All else secondary on a reasonable non-interfering

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Micor Repeater is PART 95 Type Accepted

2005-03-04 Thread Doug Bade
it chooses. Tube equipment like Progline, etc were dropped as they were not compliant with emissions standards as we went to 25k channel standards. Nothing more... Let us consider relevant portions of this discussion instead of red herrings Doug Bade Cleveland Comms. At 11

Re: [Repeater-Builder] db products matching feedline question....

2005-03-14 Thread Doug Bade
I think you need to multiply the physical wavelength by the velocity factor... which is about ~.8 - .88 or so depending on the specific cable...on the longest frequency.. Doug At 05:19 PM 3/14/2005, you wrote: I'm rebuilding a db-252 corner reflector for use on 2 meters. The original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MVP mobile tuning slugs

2005-03-16 Thread Doug Bade
Sometimes on the top part is cracked and you can push/turn them out from the bottom side up by removing the assembly More often than not they are not cracked all the way through... And always use plastic proper fitting tools to turn them, never ceramic... Doug Yahoo! Groups Links

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New poll for Repeater-Builder

2005-03-25 Thread Doug Bade
Building is about building.. craftsmanship... pride...education, and god forbid maybe even just ... the fun of it I think maybe you should just find another choir to preach to Doug Bade KD8B At 10:23 AM 3/25/2005, you wrote: Thought police again! What happened to free

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GTX mobiles for 900?

2005-04-01 Thread Doug Bade
Dave; The GTX 900 mobiles can be used for links and such. They are not designed for that duty cycle however. The front end filters are difficult to replace, but can be done and will need to be done if you rx anywhere besides the 927 end of the band.. I know of 2 users for sure who use

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GTX mobiles for 900?

2005-04-01 Thread Doug Bade
wrote: At 12:04 PM 4/1/2005, Doug Bade wrote: Dave; What kind of erp do you need on the link? Is it close/Line of Sight? You may be able to operate at exciter levels in which case any of the mobile options will work great. About 3-5 miles, with yagis. I would figure 1W or less

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GTX mobiles for 900?

2005-04-01 Thread Doug Bade
and some tweaking. Probably cheaper than the 900 GTX and it will be +_5khz... Doug KD8B At 12:19 PM 4/1/2005, you wrote: At 12:04 PM 4/1/2005, Doug Bade wrote: Dave; What kind of erp do you need on the link? Is it close/Line of Sight? You may be able to operate at exciter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Delay line chip (DAD4096) for Kendecom Mark 4

2005-04-02 Thread Doug Bade
What is the exact part number ??? I bought some bucket brigade chips many years ago from digikey, and can check what I have left, which was most of an IC tube as I recall.. Doug KD8B At 11:52 AM 4/2/2005, you wrote: Ted, I'd almost beg to buy some of your chips if you can find them.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] What is it?

2005-04-11 Thread Doug Bade
It's model name was RP3A if I am not mistaken, made originally for the MVP mobile to turn it into a repeater. It was built to replace the factory cg board. It has no remote control or cw functions. Just repeat audio control and carrier control. It used a comm spec TS32 for encode and decode.

[Repeater-Builder] Delay Line IC's

2005-04-14 Thread Doug Bade
I found my stash of delay line IC's. I do not know if they are of help as the numbers look different than I recall of those requested, but here goes.. 6) MN3102 Clock Driver Chip 4) MN3206 BBD 3) MN3207 BBD 5) MN3208 BBD 2) MN3209 BBD 1) MN3214 BBD Any of value to anyone, let me

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm stunned...

2005-04-28 Thread Doug Bade
A better more specific link.. http://www.expandedspectrumsystems.com/prod7.html Sorry Doug KD8B At 05:50 PM 4/28/2005, you wrote: Here is an interesting option we may want to look at to replace crystals. I have experience using one of these on 17.6125 with an external ovenized oscillator

Re: [Repeater-Builder] I'm stunned...

2005-04-29 Thread Doug Bade
It uses what looks like a JFET type VCO oscillator running with a dc controlled/varicap pll on board. I used it to replace a 17.6125 reference oscillator on a synthesized 900 station. The output is multiplied in this case and used to sync lock a free running 70.45 RX L.O injection

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for Doug B from the 902 group

2005-05-12 Thread Doug Bade
The Millicom version 100w amp was called an ESP2100 or ESP220 in the SEA world. I do not have docs on it as I thought we might. Sorry. I can tell you the radio was turned down to 5w to drive it so as to run it linear properWe had tried some other amps over time but the emission mask was

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II/Rangr info needed

2005-05-17 Thread Doug Bade
I have not heard of anyone moving a 800 Rangr to 902 but anything is possible if you want to try hard enough( although many may not be worth it :-) ) The 800 Station can be moved if it is a crystal controlled TX and rx version. The synthesized one will not move without major surgery... Docs

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr II Comp Lines

2005-06-02 Thread Doug Bade
One other possibility is that the I.F. stages are aligned improperly which to a trained ear ( distortion/flat-topping of part of the sine wave to what you are hearing) could be mistaken for off frequency . If the IF alignment was performed at some time with the channel element not set

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Simulcast: Anyone done this for ham repeaters

2005-06-06 Thread Doug Bade
GPS disciplined oscillators are only about $300.00 to $400.00 ea. on the used market today The HP Z3801a series have been appearing for the last few years, retired from Cellular. 10 Mhz at about 1 Hz at a gHz or better. Drive a Flex Crystal oscillator or better yet a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Master II DCS with Frequency Comp Input Line (poor mans dcs)

2005-07-08 Thread Doug Bade
I think your notes on how it is hooked are close but not exact( at least not the way we have done them in the past) . The comp line needs to be connected inside the element, A 2C effectively needs to be made into a 5C( or better yet use a 5C channel element). The comp line is a dc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Mobile repeaters

2005-07-28 Thread Doug Bade
If you jump up to the 902 band, there is an established Itinerant Repeater Pair in SERA Land and some other states which are patterned after SERA's Bandplan... In many of those areas 927.4875/902.4875 is available for Mobile or Portable Repeater OperationsUnspecified locations and tones..

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 10 Meter Repeater

2005-08-01 Thread Doug Bade
I would disagree on the later comment as in the commercial world it would be quite incorrect We have been using telco 2 wire and 4 wire DC control and Tone control lines for years. I know of some dispatch operations which use them hundreds of miles, while not the cheapest method, it still

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Name that Duplexer!

2005-08-01 Thread Doug Bade
They look like Telewave products judging by the color Doug KD8B I've uploaded pictures to: http://community.webshots.com/user/wa4ort. Can anybody identify them for us? Next question... where can I find a manual so I can tune them? Thanks, -- de WM4B Mike Kathleen,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Using ICOM Commercial radios as repeaters/links etc

2005-08-19 Thread Doug Bade
Jim; There is a factory option cable pigtail which an be added that will put most everything you could need on a external db25 connector... It can be ordered from an Icom dealer. You could build it but I suspect you would have more problems with the internal connector than is worth

Re: [Repeater-Builder] APRS string/transmissions interspersed with voice

2005-08-22 Thread Doug Bade
Physically, yes, practically and without bothering your users, probably not Taking packets off the input of the receiver ( mic-e type packets) is one thing as you can put a tnc on the repeater to mute the tx audio while it is receiving mic-e type bursts( wiring a mute

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait T800 Series I Repeaters

2005-08-26 Thread Doug Bade
When you import the file into your burner you may be importing it incorrectly... Two formats are common, Intel and Motorola. If you have a copy of hex workshop, look at the file and see if it is an s19 Motorola record image. I went through this as I programmed a lot of the T800's a while back

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Diplexer for UHF/VHF Repeating...

2005-11-14 Thread Doug Bade
I think you may have got the wrong answer to the wrong question. TX RX makes band couplers for UHF and VHF rated about 1000w each port. That is what they call a diplexer Diplexer is not a term they have in their catalog... They come in UHF/VHF and UHF/800-900 . The answer they gave

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diplexer for UHF/VHF Repeating...

2005-11-14 Thread Doug Bade
I have found that most amateur band couplers or diplexers do not seem to operate well in full duplex 100 watt 2x environments for very long. In RX systems, is one thing, but under long TX power keys they seem to heat up and dis-assemble themselves internally. The commercial versions

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Diplexer for UHF/VHF Repeating...

2005-11-14 Thread Doug Bade
Kevin; Their perspective is the commercial world and dual band single antenna repeater systems do not really exist in these bands using that narrow view. split in at the bottom and split out at the top they do, but not a dual band antenna. You are quite correct that it is not an

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Diplexer for UHF/VHF Repeating...

2005-11-14 Thread Doug Bade
talking about four freqs through the feedline/antenna. Perhaps this is why TXRX said they couldn't or wouldn't provide something. Or am I all wrong about the bandwidth issue? I'm looking at it from a duplexer point-of-view. Bob M. == --- Doug Bade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Diplexer for UHF/VHF Repeating...

2005-11-14 Thread Doug Bade
Ken; For me, impending failure usually starts with rx desense out of nowhere, followed by heat to the touch, followed by noticeable power output drops... I never really saw it on packet systems as the short duty cycle helps the heat issue, but many multiband antenna's exhibit less

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS in USA

2005-11-29 Thread Doug Bade
Paul; The Manufacturer specs for the radio will indicate what services it is type accepted for. I would start with them as they are still in business, even though it is an older model. There was a list (I think it may have been a hyper link) published at one time on the Mastr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Old duplexer tuning question

2005-12-20 Thread Doug Bade
There are some extremely broadband linear amps you can find on Ebay and such that amplify up to 1w from dc to 1ghz with 30-40db gain which can be driven off the gen port of your monitor for extra dynamic range. Calibration obviously goes, but when you are trying to see the bottom of the range,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Generator heater

2006-01-14 Thread Doug Bade
Sometimes going to a cold weather oil like synthetic can help immensely.. More often than not it will reduce starting drag in cold weather to help enough... Doug KD8B At 11:35 AM 1/14/2006, you wrote: Assuming you've tried your friendly auto-supply ... How about a call right to the Mfgr (or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE TMX RADIO

2006-01-22 Thread Doug Bade
I have a mod board for them to move them to ham band No software mods have been published and goodness knows many of us tried. I built a hardware solution... MDX and MTD use the same mod board.contact me off list if you wish for further details Info on the mod can bee found on my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Parkinson Repeater Controller

2006-02-26 Thread Doug Bade
Skipp; For openers it has no identifier I do have specific knowledge of them, we used many of them over the years The TS32 decode time was the biggest Achilles heel.. Doug KD8B At 12:47 PM 2/26/2006, you wrote: Re: Parkinson Repeater Controller If anyone in the group has or knows a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE

2006-02-26 Thread Doug Bade
Joe M; I do not believe there has ever been a factory MLS 1 programming tool for PC based programming.. While you can program a MLS 2 with the PC based MLS software, that software does not talk to an MLS1 You may be able to write a suitable eprom with an pc prom burning tool set,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MLS1 GE

2006-02-26 Thread Doug Bade
recall correctly, that is http://www.hallelectronics.com/ Joe M. Doug Bade wrote: Joe M; I do not believe there has ever been a factory MLS 1 programming tool for PC based programming.. While you can program a MLS 2 with the PC based MLS software, that software does not talk

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Receiver Tuning

2006-03-05 Thread Doug Bade
In a Mastr II if everything is correct, you should perceive no difference from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suspect the IF alignment is off. You do not need a sinnader to check this. Most Mastr II are 11.2 mhz IF , some are 9.4 Close couple a strong 5kz deviation 1khz tone at

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bandpass Cavity Insertion Loss

2006-03-11 Thread Doug Bade
All test cables and connectors on them exhibit loss, especially as frequency goes up .You need to account for these losses by knowing what they are at the freq you are working on, and even the service monitor is not perfectly constant across it's bandAlways do a loop check

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Switching PL on and of on a TS-32

2006-03-21 Thread Doug Bade
The PTT input of the ts-32 controls encode If it is connected to your rx mute gate it would track carrier input The factory recommendation Coy referred to as I recall was for gating tx tone off rx tone, which was connecting OUT 1 or 2 ( whichever is the correct polarity) to the ptt

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Switching PL on and of on a TS-32

2006-03-21 Thread Doug Bade
Cancel that remark NO PTT on that board.. I was off on that comment... one of the other boards. grrr.. I went and looked at the schematic.. The factory app note used a clamping diode or transistor maybe on the encoder side of the circuit on board of the ts32 at the network in front

Re: Fw: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Spacing?

2006-04-06 Thread Doug Bade
Ian; I do not think you suppled enough info for us to answer that. While isolators are always a good idea at sites where there are multiple transmitters, the specifics of why in the preceding discussion is for specific problems due to exact offset paired repeaters in the same site

Re: Fw: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Frequency Spacing?

2006-04-06 Thread Doug Bade
Sorry to the group for that nonsense on the bottom attachment in my previous reply...NOT sent intentionally.. something embedded in the reply from the first message I do not think it originated in my system, but apologize non the less... Doug At 11:25 AM 4/6/2006, you wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Building a Voter System

2006-04-23 Thread Doug Bade
Bill, There are many approaches but for simplicity and if cost is not an issue, Dedicated Auxiliary Receivers like GE Mastr II or Motorola Spectra TAC with 600 ohm line outs and voting tone cards are tough to beat. Connected by dedicated phone lines to the voter ( most all are good to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Wanted

2006-04-23 Thread Doug Bade
Mick; I would say that was way out of line. From an engineering standpoint your described system has little to do with a mobile environment which is what the original poster implied with asking for a mobile duplexer to which a split antenna system is impossible to make work

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Wanted

2006-04-23 Thread Doug Bade
Randy; Do not feel responsible for what happened. Anyone who proposes something unusual should be prepared to justify it to this group and should have some evidence to back it or else a really thick skin.:-) Too many folks on this list been there, done that to listen to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

2006-04-28 Thread Doug Bade
Speaking of 6 meter conversions, I have received (2 ) 4 can pass reject 300 khz duplexers for 72-76 mhz. My thoughts are to cut them in half and lengthen them about a foot..My question is how important would it be if the new addition section was copper but was not silver plated inside, as the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

2006-04-28 Thread Doug Bade
Mike; These are actually 66-88 also but tuned to 72-76 and very close spaced. They have 2 notch threaded rod stubs on each can. I was amazed to see how close spaced they were on the freq's in them. I did find some information on home plating but looks like the better part of $500.00

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 6 meter low band Duplexers

2006-04-28 Thread Doug Bade
-88MHz)... Let me know how your project goes, as I was considering the same thing. 73 Mike Perryman www.k5jmp.us -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Bade Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:36 AM To: Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mastr III HB station

2006-05-07 Thread Doug Bade
Kevin; The Mastr III station manuals currently document the process of hooking an external controller to a Mastr III. If it truly is a Mastr III as opposed to a Mastr IIe there is a quite a difference. I would suggest you get a manual for it and it should have the interface in it,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question

2006-05-09 Thread Doug Bade
I am not familiar with a tdx 800, but all members of the TMX 800 family have a same or similar VCO which is not capable of going to 902-928 without surgery, and as there are many more suitable candidates, it would be a labor of love at best. We have converted some members of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater location fees

2006-05-31 Thread Doug Bade
Anywhere from Free to cost of electric to $2000.00 a month. Locale is very influential It is extremely variable... I have sites of $25.00 a month for hams, and $950 a month for paging carriers 2 way systems. Major cities can easily double that depending on the site, rural areas can

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mastr II Station

2006-12-20 Thread Doug Bade
Bill; The station backplane is the same ... The 4 big molex connectors which connect the shelf are almost of not exactly identical in either control shelf styles... Most conversion info deals with changes at the backplane or on the repater door assy...not the controller.. In most

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 800 Slimline 20kHz Mod ?

2007-02-19 Thread Doug Bade
I think you are referring to the repeater which will be 1 channel normally... Program it to the nearest 12k5 step and warp the tcxo on freq It should be able to net on freq... Only reason you need to match steps would be in a multifreq or mobile as the step size would be required to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] pc-board design program wanted

2007-02-19 Thread Doug Bade
Kieht; For non production, amateur, and student use, Express PCB and PCB Express offer free cad programs to do boards they support internally. Launch ordering right inside,...simple layout tools.. Tough to beat for easy learning curve and one-off assy's.. A few days turn to get them

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE

2007-02-28 Thread Doug Bade
Ralph; Best case for nowit can be modified for 900 rx with information available at this time.. even that is a lot of work Many better donor radios to work with that are already in 900... Most radios with 800 brick VCO's do not move well.. many will rx, but most to none will

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 220VAC Astron

2007-03-28 Thread Doug Bade
The secondary DC after capacitors in a normal astron ( using its correct input voltage ) is about 26 vdc after filtering and across the capacitors.. If you run a 220 astron at 120vac , the voltage would be half or so, or ~13vdc. This is not enough overhead to regulate but the regulator will

RE: [Repeater-Builder] 220VAC Astron

2007-03-28 Thread Doug Bade
Gary; I know the 120v versions are as you say, 120 only ( at least every Astron non -switcher I ever worked on) , I just did not know if the 220 versions may use a split primary transformer.. The 120 versions definitely do not allow for mod to 220.. :-) Fortunately, many

Re: [Repeater-Builder] 900 MHz Repeater

2007-05-13 Thread Doug Bade
Luke; If you are not already a member, there is a yahoogroup called ar902mhz which is dedicated to 900 conversion information.. There is also documentation in the Batlabs site on the subject of 900Maxtrac Conversion, proably here too at repeater-builder Many repeaters have been

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater to TNC

2007-05-21 Thread Doug Bade
The commercial version of the KPC3+ has some very nice modem like feature sets which make it look like basically a serial port over rf... That firmware may be better suited for your application. Doug KD8B At 06:57 PM 5/20/2007, you wrote: I was wondering if anyone in the group has ever

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Racom model 1401 cw ider manual needed !!

2007-05-22 Thread Doug Bade
The factory may email it if you ask nice...if not let me know and I can provide a copy from my archives. I will see if I can PDF it if the factory cannot send it... especially if you are polite and say it is for ham radio 216-351-1755 Racom Products in Cleveland Ohio (a long time ago in a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Racom model 1401 cw ider manual needed !!

2007-05-22 Thread Doug Bade
The manager of the operation bought it about a year ago to keep it going, and moved it to a new location Doug KD8B At 10:25 AM 5/22/2007, you wrote: Doug Bade wrote: The factory may email it if you ask nice...if not let me know and I can provide a copy from my archives. I will see if I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Still searching: SEA ESP1000 Repeater

2007-06-08 Thread Doug Bade
We have some that might be available... Contact me private if you wish... Doug KD8B At 12:16 AM 6/7/2007, you wrote: I am still in the market for a SEA ESP1000 repeater so I can beguin the 222-225 MHz NBFM conversion project. I would prefere one with the Reference oscillator, but it may not be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT - Received repeater audio on IC-208H

2007-06-08 Thread Doug Bade
I used an external speaker on mine and it made a world of difference.. the internal one really is pretty bad... Doug KD8B At 03:33 PM 6/8/2007, you wrote: A regular user of our linked repeater system has an ICOM IC-208H. He frequently has trouble understanding transmissions, and we think

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Would You Do This?

2007-06-19 Thread Doug Bade
I would seriously look at the possibility of building an offsite data center DR facility as it seems like it has the start for it assuming fiber connectivity can be brought in.. You may be able to generate some serious revenue to pay the rent so to speak.. A building like this has some

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR III - Conversion to Amateur Radio

2007-06-19 Thread Doug Bade
Externally controlling a Mastr III is documented in the current station service manual. It may be in some of the older LBI's. It is not quite as easy as a Mastr II to hook up, but I would address the freq programming first as that needs to work before the rest matters... I was not able to move

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR III - Conversion to Amateur Radio

2007-06-19 Thread Doug Bade
. Also the last thing I would think about is kluging an outboard controller to an M3 when is has most everything built in. Steve Doug Bade wrote: Externally controlling a Mastr III is documented in the current station service manual. It may be in some of the older LBI's. It is not quite

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR III - Conversion to Amateur Radio

2007-06-21 Thread Doug Bade
To add to this, the transmitter is dip switch so the rx is the problem at this point it looks like the tx will go wherever needed. My tx module has modulation issues too but that is another matter... Doug KD8B At 12:00 PM 6/21/2007, you wrote: I just checked this am.. Mine do not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR III - Conversion to Amateur Radio

2007-06-21 Thread Doug Bade
everything work OK in software. The pots inside the module are for LF mod (CG tone, DCG, etc) and HF mod - higher end audio frequencies. The DSP in the system module also can very much affect transmit audio. Steve NU5D Doug Bade wrote: To add to this, the transmitter is dip switch so the rx

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MASTR III - Conversion to Amateur Radio

2007-06-21 Thread Doug Bade
. Steve NU5D Doug Bade wrote: To add to this, the transmitter is dip switch so the rx is the problem at this point it looks like the tx will go wherever needed. My tx module has modulation issues too but that is another matter... Doug KD8B At 12:00 PM 6/21/2007, you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TS64 as repeater controller

2007-06-26 Thread Doug Bade
A TS64 is an encoder/decoder. A TP3200 is the tone panel... Doug At 01:12 PM 6/26/2007, you wrote: I thought the TS-64 is a tone panel/ controller. We have added them to a R-100 repeater to give them a group of users for a GMRS group we had here at one time. - Original Message -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Pagers for telemetry

2007-07-10 Thread Doug Bade
You need to check the receiver board to see what band it is on as the labels on the case may be totally inaccurate... the receiver part number will have a letter combination in it to determine the range. NRF is 900 mhz NRE is uhf NRD is vhf There are several bandsplits in VHF and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Rohn 25g Tower

2007-07-29 Thread Doug Bade
I think the idea is you want the legs of the tower to extend below the concrete into mother earth to keep lightning from arcing ( or trying to) through the concrete on the bottom if it gets a direct strike... Then add the appropriate grounding rods outside the concrete and it will not likely

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rohn 25g Tower

2007-07-29 Thread Doug Bade
I guess as long as you are spaced correctly it could be added afterwards, but I would do it first to make life simplergetting boring bits around the tower leg would be more annoying than it is worth... If you have the tower up, deal with it but if you have a choice :-)... just measure

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-901 Ham Mod

2007-07-31 Thread Doug Bade
Mike; I have looked at it, here is the dilemma. The channels are pre-programmed into the tx and rx decks. There are rotary channel switches to select the channel( at least in the ones I have) . Valid channel numbers are 1-400. 401 unlocks the vco. Both tx and rx react same.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 5793

2007-09-19 Thread Doug Bade
Well at least if it is Flex system on a national carrier this is probably true... Some of the older systems at 900 like ours, which is POCSAG uses disciplined oscillators locked to the master which may or may not be on exact freq as it IS set and stable but not by GPS Freq error is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread Doug Bade
I would be quite surprised if you are NOT having desense with a Mastr II and a 6 can notch only duplexer at 600 khz Typically a 6 can reject only duplexer is not sufficient isolation at 600khz for 2 meters with a solid state PA.. Vertical separation or a pass/reject duplexer will be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-26 Thread Doug Bade
There was some notes I read somewhere that the channel steps on the 220 version was limited and in this country we could not access ALL freq's on 15/20 khz band plans.. just some... I think I read it was 12k5or 10k0 or something like this, and channel stepped which did not match all of our

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Tait 220 equipment

2007-09-26 Thread Doug Bade
--- In mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jed Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That souds like a plan Yeah 220 stuff is getting very very hard to find for sure On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Doug Bade wrote: There was some notes I read somewhere

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MII Receiver

2007-12-07 Thread Doug Bade
I should correct that, the copper coils on the rx side are separated, the tx exciter is the double assy.. Same problem however was on each, getting them in to range with sufficient tuning and energy to still pass the correct multiplier through... I ended up checking the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] MII Receiver

2007-12-07 Thread Doug Bade
While I have never seen or heard of a case, it may be possible.. However, it is most likely not the case. I suspect insufficient drive from the oscillator chain through to the mixer.. The copper helical bandpass filter at the end of the L.O. chain will not tune without mods, getting them into

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE MastrII Auxiliary Receiver

2007-12-11 Thread Doug Bade
Adam; I would look at the caps in the 10v regulator area and make sure they are modern newer capacitors, the other thing is that there was a mod on some IFAS boards that had a capacitor in the Audio transformer feedback loop that was changed from a cap to a resistor or from a resistor

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