Recently, there was a post on this list about loss of data with VXA drives if the
power is cycled while a tape is in the drive. Some of the statements in that post were
incorrect. One very important correction: VXA tape drives DO have the capability to
recover data after a power loss. This is
I've reset DDS-* drives by holding down the eject button for 5
seconds to soft reset the device. Can the same be accomplished on
these drives It might save your tapes.
I am having troubles with my VXA tapes and thought I'd pass on some
signs, symptoms and a warning.
The warning: Don't
Same SCSI card, same cable,
same tapes (tried several), very similar computer, same OS,
same version of Retrospect; the only thing that seems to be
different is the location of the drive.
Is it possible that you don't have an up to date ATTO driver installed?
Pam
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Title: Re: VXA vexations
re: 206 errors on Mac
Ecrix have revised the drive firmware to V2848
11/11/00in order to address some of these
problems.
Timing problems may vary from one system to another,
even with the same cable/adapter/terminator/drive
due to differences in the system clock and bus
...is Retrospect smart enough
to continue where it left off without rewinding the tape?
Yes, Retrospect is a damn good tool. As Irena said, the tape will be
rewined to check what tape it is. Then Retrospect will forward the tape to
put the new information *after* the old one.
It takes a
Hi Bob,
If you insert a VXA tape, the tape drive *must* get to the beginning of the
tape in order to read the header information. Retrospect has no way of
knowing what tape it's dealing with if the tape drive can't report the
information stored in the header.
Thanks,
Irena Solomon
Dantz Tech
Robert:
It's at www.ecrix.com/eval
The promotional offer is extended through October.
--Geoff Rainville, Ecrix.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Robert Schwalbe
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 5:04 PM
To: retro-talk
Subject: VXA
I'm running it on a beige G3 300MHz desktop. I wouldn't trust a Power
Computing system as a backup server...those are the Packard-Bell of the Mac
clone world.
Actually, most of the motherboards are the same as the Apple
equivalents. They changed other things like floppy drives and CD-ROM
to be rock stable, and so
far it hasn't been. If anyone has any advice pro or con on using the
2906, I'd like to hear it.
On 9/27/00, Jon Gardner sent an email about Re: VXA Mac Tool
I'm running it on a beige G3 300MHz desktop. I wouldn't trust a Power
Computing system as a backup server...those
Yep. And most used the 7200 as the basis for that equivalency. And the
7200 was Apple's answer to Packard Bell.
lol.
The don't wanna-be Performa? 7200 as built was as stable as anything
else. It earned it's bad reputation based soley off of the fact that
it was hard to upgrade. For it's
on 9/26/00 9:00 PM, Todd Reed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has any one had any luck using the VXA tool on a Mac? My version just
bombs with some cryptic error that it can't find the target. Doesn't
crash, but doesn't find the drive either though the drive is listed
in the window.
Yeah, it
on 9/27/00 4:18 PM, Todd Reed at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ecrix is telling me that the tool has problems running on older Macs.
I'm using a beige Power Computer 150 mhz system and the built-in SCSI.
The tool is noting that it's using the asynchronous SCSI manager.
Anyone having any luck
Jon Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] slyly asked:
So, hey, Dantz folks, when can we start
beta-testing Retrospect X?
Well, since we're on 4.3 now, I think we should have Retrospect X (ten) by
about Spring 2009. Please note that this schedule will slip as necessary to
enforce reliability standards.
Has any one had any luck using the VXA tool on a Mac? My version just
bombs with some cryptic error that it can't find the target. Doesn't
crash, but doesn't find the drive either though the drive is listed
in the window.
Todd
On 9/26/00, Geoff Rainville emailed about "VXA Mac Tool":
Does anyone have experience with the VXA autoPAK system? If so, how has it
performed for you?
Thank you for any feedback. :-)
Sincerely,
Robert Cooper
MIS Director
Renaissance TTP, Inc.
Not exactly your answer, but Yes, I DO have an autopak. I'm TRYING to run
it off an Apple Mac G4 (OS
Well i was hoping to run it from a Beige G3! Sounds like their may be some
problems though.
Thank you for your input!
Does anyone have experience with the VXA autoPAK system? If so, how has it
performed for you?
Thank you for any feedback. :-)
Sincerely,
Robert Cooper
MIS
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Robert Cooper
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 10:45 AM
To: retro-talk
Subject: Re: VXA
Well i was hoping to run it from a Beige G3! Sounds like their may be some
problems though.
Thank you for your input!
Does anyone have experience with the VXA
I've added the two OnStream drives (ADR50 and SC30) in the internal
SCSI configurations (wide connector if available). I've listed the
pricing I can get to keep the comparison prices consistent.
Steve Rothman, the Eliant 820 is an Exabyte drive utilizing an 8mm
helical scan tape. The VXA-1
, August 3, 2000 4:36 AM
To: retro-talk
Subject: RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)
I've added the two OnStream drives (ADR50 and SC30) in the internal
SCSI configurations (wide connector if available). I've listed the
pricing I can get to keep the comparison prices consistent.
Steve
Hey Gowan...wanna buy a few hundred Syquest 200s? How about 5.25" MO's?
:)
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 7:28 AM
Subject: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)
Steve said:
My previous
Andrew said:
Hey Gowan...wanna buy a few hundred Syquest 200s? How about 5.25" MO's?
:)
Yuck yuck. Yep, we've scrapped plenty of SyQuests too. A perfect example to
prove my point! The most widely accepted industry standard at one time, yet
driven out of business by Iomega's product. Could it
Le 02/08/2000 a 09:22 -0400 , Gowan Fenley ecrivait :
Hey, you can always shoot for the lowest common denominator and invest in
Travan!
And loose your data...
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Mark said:
Gowan, what type of throughputs are you getting and what spec machine do
you use as a server?
Server is a Dell Poweredge 1300 with a single Pentium 3/450 and 256Mb RAM.
Throughput ranges from 171Mb/sec on local volumes down to 2Mb/sec on a fully
throttled (20% cpu time) remote mail
Oh yes - also compare after store is enabled.
-gf
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on 8/2/00 6:22 AM, Gowan Fenley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, if you want to look at single vendor proprietary platforms, you
don't have to look farther than Apple
...or Microsoft, or Intel, or AMD.
Sorry, had to get those "digs" in there somewhere ;-). Apple's not the only
(The only single-tape solution
in my price range is VXA, which sounds very nice, but there is NO WAY
I will go with a new, single-vendor solution...)
You really have to look at risk vs. cost in this case. You can get into a
VXA drive with a few tapes for $600-$700 and have an immediate
At 15:37 +0200 8/2/00, Xavier HUMBERT - Labo Informatique wrote:
Le 02/08/2000 a 09:22 -0400 , Gowan Fenley ecrivait :
Hey, you can always shoot for the lowest common denominator and invest in
Travan!
And loose your data...
We use a Travan system where I work and we are planning
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Steve Rothman
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:18 AM
To: retro-talk
Subject: Re: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)
(The only single-tape solution
in my price range is VXA, which sounds very nice, but there i
Steve said:
...In my particular case, I need to specify everything I need for a two year
time span (which in
my case means two drives plus all tapes and cleaning tapes, etc.) on a
single purchase order.
... I cannot tolerate the risk that my VXA drives may go bad a year from now
and that no one
Steve: You're killing me here. A two-year tape purchase in advance, but we
won't get the sale?
Now that you're mentioning tape...
Your promotional drive prices are very nice. The "External Retrospect
Bundle" for $750 is slightly better than the LaCie DDS-3 + Retro
avail from MacWarehouse for
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Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 12:11 PM
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Subject: RE: VXA drive (was DDS-3 vs DDS-4?)
Steve: You're killing me here. A two-year tape purchase in advance, but we
won't get the sale?
Now that you're mentioning
I added cost/GB numbers to the end of this nice chart, hope my math is ok.
It looks like the media cost of VXA is about in the middle -- not
great, not a bargain.
DDS-3, which happens to be the format I am comparing to VXA, is tied
to be the second cheapest - the only format cheaper is the
May I add one other drive to this list? What does anyone here think of this
drive from OnStream (http://www.onstream.com)? Other than having a few
(three in one machine), I have no connection to OnStream. They seem to work
well, I just hadn't seen much mention here in the time I've been
Hello Jakob,
VXA is distributed in Sweden through Giga AB, in Stockholm. Their website is
www.gigatrading.se.
There are also several resellers in Sweden:
Desknet Datateknik AB (www.desknet.se), Logical Solutions AB (www.logical.se),
United Business Machines UBM AB (www.ubm.se).
For more
Thanks for all the comments on VXA, it really sounds like the way to go, so
I'm going to be getting one when I get my new G4.
Thanks again,
Brian
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I have had a VXA drive here for about 3 months. Aside from some long
seek (finding the beginning of the tape) times if you crash Retrospect
in the middle of a backup and the fact that it is noisy compared to the
DDS3 drive I was using, It is very fast (~30% faster than DDS3) and
reliable (several
I've got all the individual posts dating back to 6/23/99.
Brad.
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I bought a VXA drive from Ecrix 2 days ago, very easy to set up with
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