[Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread pgeorges
Hi, I requested the take over of Scid at sourceforge. I will see if this works (Scid is already flagged as APT = Abandoned Project Takeover) I did it because latest downloadable files are from 2004 and Shane and admins are unavailable, except martin skjoldebrand that seems really busy and/or wi

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
pgeorges wrote: > Hi, > > I requested the take over of Scid at sourceforge. I will see if this > works (Scid is already flagged as APT = Abandoned Project Takeover) > I did it because latest downloadable files are from 2004 and Shane and > admins are unavailable, except martin skjoldebrand that

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
Dr. David Kirkby, poniedziałek, 12 lutego 2007: >There has been several comments on the mailing list about Shane not >liking people meddling with his code. Given the code is GPL'ed, he >really should not object, but I believe he has done. So I can't help but >feel he would object to someone taking

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Jeremy White
> I agree, especially that there are two independent versions being developed. I do not understand why there are two efforts underway. Specifically, Pascal, I do not understand why you have decided to start your own effort. As far as I can tell, Dr. Kirby is leading the older and more vibrant ef

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread pgeorges
So, suppose shane never updates Scid : then Scid is a dead project, right ? Suppose there are forks (any fork is insane for me in open source world), and Shane wants to continue Scid development (in 2007 ? in 2010 ?). What can he do ? Try to catch up and merge projects with different names, tha

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
pgeorges, poniedziałek, 12 lutego 2007: >So, suppose shane never updates Scid : then Scid is a dead project, right ? >Suppose there are forks (any fork is insane for me in open source >world), and Shane wants to continue Scid development (in 2007 ? in 2010 >?). What can he do ? Try to catch up an

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread pgeorges
Jeremy White a écrit : >> I agree, especially that there are two independent versions being developed. >> > > I do not understand why there are two efforts underway. > > Specifically, Pascal, I do not understand why you have decided > to start your own effort. As far as I can tell, Dr. Kirby

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread pgeorges
Michal Rudolf a écrit : > I agree that you have some points. But I am still against one of two forks > taking Scid name. If you agree to maintain just one, I am more inclined to > support using Scid's name. > So if I understand well you propose 2 scenarios : S1 : Scid -> let it die 2 forks :

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Pascal do you have a Sourceforge ID number associated with your request? I would like to make a formal objection. It seems I'm not the only one to feel it is inappropriate. I feel Michal Rudolf's proposal, or links to the two projects is a good one. --

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
pgeorges, poniedziałek, 12 lutego 2007: >So if I understand well you propose 2 scenarios : >S1 : >Scid -> let it die >2 forks : projects A and B Suggestion: link to both A and B from Scid. Wait some time and see how both projects are doing. If one is doing better (development pace/users) put it

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
pgeorges wrote: > Michal Rudolf a écrit : > >>I agree that you have some points. But I am still against one of two forks >>taking Scid name. If you agree to maintain just one, I am more inclined to >>support using Scid's name. >> > > > So if I understand well you propose 2 scenarios : > S1 :

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread pgeorges
Dr. David Kirkby a écrit : > Pascal do you have a Sourceforge ID number associated with your request? > I would like to make a formal objection. It seems I'm not the only one > to feel it is inappropriate. > > Who are you to decide for Shane Hudson or SF staff ? Who are you to restrict someon

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
pgeorges wrote: > Dr. David Kirkby a écrit : > >> Pascal do you have a Sourceforge ID number associated with your >> request? I would like to make a formal objection. It seems I'm not the >> only one to feel it is inappropriate. >> >> > > Who are you to decide for Shane Hudson or SF staff ?

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Jeremy White
> Because, hum well, let's say I code for fun. And some mails with Mr > Kirby were far from that. Moreover he asked on newsgroup if I was simply > "wasting my time" adding some features. > Really irritated, one hour later, I started Scid-pg. > Regarding "vibrant effort", I did not check progress of

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jeremy White wrote: > I believe Dr. Kirby has been nothing but gracious and respectful > of Shane's work. > > Read this from the opening screen of ChessDB: > > ChessDB is based on Scid - http://scid.sourceforge.net/ > but has new features, enhancements and bug-fixes. > More than 90% of Ch

[Scid-users] Scid Enhancement request [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2007-02-12 Thread Ninchich, Milan MR
Hi , I am a subscriber but have forgotten how to post a message. Enhancement Request |4|5|5|5|5|8|4|2| |4|5|9|5|5|8|4|2| |4|5|5|5|5|8|4|2| |4|5|5|5|5|8|4|2| |4|5|5|5|5|8|4|2| |4|5|5|5| | | |2| |4|5|5|5| | | |2| | | | | | | | | | The request is to have a screen like the above that indicates f

Re: [Scid-users] Scid, ChessDB, Shane - Another opinion

2007-02-12 Thread Sean O'Donovan
To all concerned, As a low-activity member of this list (ie "lurker"), I would request that Pascal and David do their best to sort out their differences. Each has contributed greatly to Scid. Considering that Shane has been effectively absent for almost three years (if you exclude one website upd

Re: [Scid-users] [Chessdb-users] Scid on source forge

2007-02-12 Thread Detlef Steuer
Jerry, thx for the well thought comments. > > Further, I started out feeling that you had proposed a good feature; > Dr. Kirby wrote a response that persuaded me that it was not appropriate > for ChessDB. That´s an important point. ChessDB follows the "intentions" (in my view at least) of scid