Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-23 Thread Deepa Mohan
thOy in Tamizh has the meaning, steep, dip in (as in liquids), or setting (as in yogurt. It also means wash as in washing clothes. Wonder if these processes (er,not the washing) are done in the dalithoy dish? On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Venkat Mangudi - Silk s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-23 Thread Venkat Mangudi - Silk
Maybe Konkani is not derived from Sanskrit. Maybe it is derived from Tamil. On May 20, 2015 5:52 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Thoya is water in sanskrit. Purely human error in etymology if it has a different derivation. On 20-May-2015, at 5:44 pm, Thejaswi Udupa

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Shenoy N
On 20 May 2015 at 08:00, Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Watery and mildly spiced dal by any name .. On 20-May-2015, at 7:42 am, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote: There's a Tulu dish called Thawwe. The recipe sounds identical. Is this Daalithoy the same dish but

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Shenoy N
On 20 May 2015 at 07:42, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote: There's a Tulu dish called Thawwe. The recipe sounds identical. Is this Daalithoy the same dish but called so in Konkani? Never had. I have a Tulu neighbor. Will ask -- Narendra Shenoy http://narendrashenoy.blogspot.com

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Thejaswi Udupa
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote: There's a Tulu dish called Thawwe. The recipe sounds identical. Is this Daalithoy the same dish but called so in Konkani? Yes. Karnataka coastline staple. Mom makes a variant with ridge gourd core (or what's called the

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Come on udups, even the name means Dal + Water. :) Though yes, I was sort of exaggerating. I grew up with konkani friends (half my father’s colleagues are from Karkala, with names like Shenoy and Pai) —srs On 20-May-2015, at 5:22 pm, Thejaswi Udupa thejaswi.ud...@gmail.com wrote: And if

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thoya is water in sanskrit. Purely human error in etymology if it has a different derivation. On 20-May-2015, at 5:44 pm, Thejaswi Udupa thejaswi.ud...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you get this whole thoy meaning water angle from? thoy and thavve are cognates and neither has any relation to

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Okay Udhay - did you finally eat the damn thing or not? ᐧ

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Vinayak Hegde
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote: A konkani staple is this daal preparation, Daalithoy. Almost everyone I know gets nostalgic about it from time to time (mainly because the kids hate it, which means it rarely gets made). That sounds about right. My father

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Okay Udhay - did you finally eat the damn thing or not? ​Nope. I got scared off. :)​ ​Udhay​ -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-20 Thread Deepa Mohan
Loved the two words, Mom makes.. Some (mom) things never change. On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Thejaswi Udupa thejaswi.ud...@gmail.com wrote: Mom makes a variant with ridge gourd core

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Rajesh Mehar
I don't know if I'm revealing some secret (likely not) but Gautam John likes to leave fish fry out overnight to get a nice souring taste in... Right Gautam?

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Shenoy N
A konkani staple is this daal preparation, Daalithoy. Almost everyone I know gets nostalgic about it from time to time (mainly because the kids hate it, which means it rarely gets made). The best version is the freshly made one, with seasoning of mustard, curry leaves and, the vital ingredient,

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Alok G. Singh
Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com writes: Gautam John likes to leave fish fry out overnight to get a nice souring taste in... Works well with a nice oily fish like mackerel. Don't skimp on the oil for frying either. The fish seems to become softer and more delicate. -- Alok Corry's Law:

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Gautam John
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Alok G. Singh alephn...@gmail.com wrote: Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com writes: Gautam John likes to leave fish fry out overnight to get a nice souring taste in... Works well with a nice oily fish like mackerel. Don't skimp on the oil for frying either.

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Make dal in your cooker the usual way but along with the turmeric powder just add some asafoetida, slit green chillies and ginger. Once done, top it up with water, boil it and temper it with the usual stuff (mustard, curry leaves etc) Like a weak and watery version of the basic dal made for

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Watery and mildly spiced dal by any name .. On 20-May-2015, at 7:42 am, Rajesh Mehar rajeshme...@gmail.com wrote: There's a Tulu dish called Thawwe. The recipe sounds identical. Is this Daalithoy the same dish but called so in Konkani?

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Rajesh Mehar
There's a Tulu dish called Thawwe. The recipe sounds identical. Is this Daalithoy the same dish but called so in Konkani?

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-19 Thread Thaths
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:46 PM Shenoy N sheno...@gmail.com wrote: A konkani staple is this daal preparation, Daalithoy. Almost everyone I know gets nostalgic about it from time to time (mainly because the kids hate it, which means it rarely gets made). The best version is the freshly made

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Rashmi Dhanwani
So I discovered some sambhar that's been sitting in the fridge for at least a month. It's been in a closed container and not been taken out of the fridge. I am not sure the container is airtight. It doesn't smell rotten. Opinions on whether it's OK to eat? You are in South India with its rivers

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Arjun Guha
Heat it, give it a good stir, and if you don't smell a rat, take a taste and make the call. Udhay. Dude. Really? Arjun. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Nima Srinivasan nimava...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it depends on what your end goal is and how much of a sambar snob you are. My mom

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Gautam John
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: Opinions on whether it's OK to eat? Sterilise it and eat it? [Is this a thought/science experiment?]

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Nima Srinivasan
I guess it depends on what your end goal is and how much of a sambar snob you are. My mom will claim oosi ponna naatham (the soul wrenching smell of food gone bad) within 4 hrs 8 minutes and 23 seconds of it being made. In BLR - I'd say that you should be good for a few days. You are pushing it

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I did eat some roast chicken that was lying in an office fridge for a few weeks - and survived without any ill effects. But that was over 15 years ago and I think I was just lucky. It is not an experiment I’d personally try on myself. Feeding it to your dogs is potential cruelty to animals -

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Mahesh Murthy
Sambaar (and not 'sambhar', Udhay) by definition has organic material in it, and hence significant numbers of bacteria etc. Leaving this stuff to stew for a month in a cool and non-hermetically-airtight place is stuff of petri-dish experiment, and I for one wouldn't subject my stomach to it, even

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Deepa Mohan
Followed the thread, and the net result seems to be: It's up to you. The state of food also depends on how soon after preparation it was put in there. But perhaps you are referring to a deer species in your refrigerator? On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Madhu Menon
On 18 May 2015 at 20:01, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: So I discovered some sambhar that's been sitting in the fridge for at least a month. It's been in a closed container and not been taken out of the fridge. I am not sure the container is airtight. It doesn't smell rotten. No.

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Thaths
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:31 AM Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: So I discovered some sambhar that's been sitting in the fridge for at least a month. It's been in a closed container and not been taken out of the fridge. I am not sure the container is airtight. It doesn't smell rotten.

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Vatha kozhambu, especially the thickened to almost paste like consistency variant, has an almost indefinite shelf life - not that it lasts very long, you wouldn’t forget to use it up. On 19-May-2015, at 1:59 am, Thaths tha...@gmail.com wrote: To begin with, is it Sambaar or one of it's

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Thaths
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:17 AM Suresh Ramasubramanian sur...@hserus.net wrote: Vatha kozhambu, especially the thickened to almost paste like consistency variant, has an almost indefinite shelf life - not that it lasts very long, you wouldn’t forget to use it up. The vatha kuzhambu is

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Aditya Kapil blue...@gmail.com wrote: Is Lavanya in Coimbatore? ​Heh. Right to the heart of the matter. :)​ ​Udhay -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] Food spoilage question

2015-05-18 Thread Aditya Kapil
Is Lavanya in Coimbatore? On 18 May 2015 8:01 pm, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: So I discovered some sambhar that's been sitting in the fridge for at least a month. It's been in a closed container and not been taken out of the fridge. I am not sure the container is airtight. It