I gather that at the least, CS certainly seems to attack organisms that
arrack plants...so it might be sold as a fungicide, etc. Who's to say
that Dr. Clark's principle doesn't apply to plants as well as mammals?
Microbial assault might be culpable for poor plant growth, more often
than not.
cking...@nycap.rr.com writes:
Already been done by Beck and his zapper. Sota site used that form of
ad.
Call it a tree or rose spray...
I recall the blood electifier jack labeled plant growth stimulator; it
has been stated that a little current through the soil is accelerates
growth. --Russ
I believe this determination has been suggested based on 1) a statistical
correlation between mass increase in chronic/degenerative disease and the
ongoing decrease in the earth's field, and 2) efficacy of magnet therapy
(esp. matress pads) in reversing the same maladies. --Russ
On Mon, 20 Nov
Thanks, Dean--
Now that I have a definitive explanation, two related questions pester
me: What happened to all those Rife freq's, and has anyone compared this
kind of zapper's effectiveness to straight DC? --Russ
Hi Russ,
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 12:14:50 -0600, russ e rosser
Suzy:
I have fibro and CFS, and yes - contact me off list for info on my research,
to date. But the bottom line is, there are at least 3 contributing causes to
fibro:
1) an injury to the area
2) auto-immune - stress, environmental factors, etc.
3) vaccine contamination/mycoplasmas
I have ALL
Terry,
The terms 'plant growth stimulator' and 'colloidal silver' are seen
together only because the Sota instrument of the same name can also be
used to make CS.
I should think that adding silver to the soil will inhibit normal soil
organisms and may result in growth inhibition.
Regards
Ivan.
Hi Suzy'
Remember the goiter belts because of a lack of iodine in the soil? It
wasn't solved until iodine was added to salt..Iowa is a corn growing
state and corn really depletes the soil. Especially when not grown
organically. Have you tested for mineral and/or vitamin deficiencies?.
Good luck.
Roger,
You will find this document from the EPA contradicts the FDA on many
fronts.
The references to studies of the carcinogenity of silver, and the
conclusions reached are about half way through the document.
http://www.epa.gov/ngispgm3/iris/subst/0099.htm
Ivan.
- Original Message -
- Original Message -
From: russ e rosser russros...@juno.com
Hi there Russ,
I'm afraid you have some of your facts back to front.
If the acid were then ingested, what does it do to the pH level of
the body?
As I understand it, the post-digestive state of different foods
Hi Bob,
I have found that hot water leads to a stronger Tyndal beam and greater
colour in CS of equivalent concentration. And unlike Ken (hi Ken) have
found that using seeding leads to much larger particles. Must be doing
something wrong!
Ivan.
- Original Message -
From: Robert L.
In a message dated 11/20/00 7:22:32 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes:
Date:11/20/00 7:22:32 AM EST
From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson)
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
Roger,
You will find this document from the EPA contradicts the FDA on many
fronts.
Hi Jeff,
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Laymon jlay...@ainet.com
Hello Group: Here's a portion of a conversation with a serious minded
fellow
whose arguments I was unable to adequately fend off. Perhaps someone
here on
the list could help me out with some of the issues he has
No, Tray I don't mind.
But I might have been a little more expansive (and corrected the
spelling) if I had known you were to use it in reply.
Cheers
Ivan.
- Original Message -
From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, 20 November 2000 14:05
Subject:
from:
http://mercola.com/2000/nov/19/vaccine_mandate_opposition.htm
Doctor's Group Opposes Vaccine Mandates
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS),
a leading national physician organization, is calling for a
moratorium on all government mandated vaccines and has
passed a
from:
http://mercola.com/2000/nov/19/vaccine_sids.htm
Vaccine/SIDS Causal Link
From the November 2000 Idaho Observer
Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS), Autism and Shaken Baby
Syndrome(and and many other physiological and neurological
complications) are currently epidemic throughout the
In a message dated 11/20/00 8:30:59 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes:
Subj: Re: CSSilver Leaching into Healthy Skin
Date: 11/20/00 8:30:59 AM EST
From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson)
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:silver-list@eskimo.com (Silver-List)
Hi Jeff,
-
Ihvan and all;
I also have found that seeding with CS gives the same T.E. (particle size)
as the parent.
Rigth now I am running an HVAC ARC CO2 with water at 32 deg.F. (measured)
the jug was outdoors all night and it was 20 deg.F. this morning.
When I connected the 12 kv water flew everywhere.
In a message dated 11/20/00 8:35:00 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes:
Subj: Re: CSFw: colloidal silver
Date: 11/20/00 8:35:00 AM EST
From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson)
Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
No, Tray I don't mind.
But I might have been a
It may also be the time of year in relation to the sap running, etc.
I know where we live, we have a 2-4 week window for spraying for twig
borers on the pinon trees. Maybe if those spraying could keep track of
when they spray in relation to what the tree is doing and let us know.
Just some
itssu...@aol.com wrote:
If the acid were then ingested, what does it do to the pH level of the
body.
Aren't there certain pH levels that are healthy to maintain, and would
this
disrupt the long term pH level, or is it thought to correct body pH
levels?
Hydrocholric acid is what is termed
Interesting information. Do you have any cites?
Marshall
Ivan Anderson wrote:
Hi Tracy,
Another closed mind with the ability to influence the health of many!
In fact, Dr Austin's language is hardly dispassionate and I suspect his
research reflected his expectations.
Rather than
Furst and Schlauder (1977) evaluated silver and gold for carcinogenicity
in a study designed to avoid solid-state carcinogenesis. Metal powder was
suspended in trioctanoin and injected monthly, i.m., into 50 male and
female
Fischer 344 rats per group. The dose was 5 mg each for 5
rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
Chuck: Which, as Ivan has pointed out, is NOT true for typical silver nitrate
preparations. Perhaps THAT'S why, from a purely delivery perspective, only
silver compounds cause argyria. It's not the FORM of silver that causes
argyria (since, according to Ivan, the body
mama2b...@aol.com wrote:
I am not willing to put something in my stomach that's used to etch concrete
and zinc printing plates, sorry.
It is already there. That is how the stomach digests.
Marshall
--
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To join or quit
Also see http://execonn.com for how to use aspartame properly.
Marshall
Duncan Crow wrote:
Hi;
Aspartame contains phenylalanine. So does Nutra-sweet. So does Sugar
Twin...You have to read the pak.
The comment about phenylalanine being an essential neurotransmitter is true,
but
I have some new mothers on a list I am on who want to know what research
there is about the safety of soy for babies and what age is ok. And not
a study sponsored by the Milk Board, which happened in Australia. I
would appreciate any and all help. Or is it, as I suspect, an
individual thing,
wen...@aol.com wrote:
Judith and list,
I saw a television commercial recently from the Biotechnology Commission or
something similar promoting Golden Rice, which is a GE modified rice now
containing beta-carotene that will End World Hunger. At what cost, I
wonder. Lots of pictures of
brick...@aol.com wrote:
Dean The parasite eggs didn't know the difference that they were killed by
muriatic acid that was contaminated with sulphur (MSM is what sulphur) when I
sterilized the foods. I do not recommend it but I could not locate food
grade HCL locally. The place which Dr
Ivan
I use controlled current at .7 to .8 milliamps, voltage at 25.6 to start
,dropping to 6 volts as conductivity increases. The higher current setting
tends to make for a higher risk of larger particles, especially if the
water is cool but it 'usually' works fine if the temperature is kept
Judith Thamm wrote:
Dear Russ,
Putting this into much simpler language, there is an old and often
quoted folk tale that it is dangerous for a very young person whose
strength of mind is undeveloped to be in the room touching an elderly
strong willed extremely ill person; the ill person was
Not being grounded is one of the safest things to do. Even if the
transformer shorted out, if you are not gounded when using it, you would
never know it. So if you are sitting in a non-metal chair with shoes on, or
feet on a dry carpet, the likelyhood of shock is remote.
Marshall
Judith Thamm
Nick Grant wrote:
Can anyone please tell me if they have a zapper, found it useful, what
works, and doesn't work and how they use it on themselves.
Ta.
Tracy.
Our family has a zapper and uses it from time to time. However since CS is
also used I cannot say for sure that the zapper is
Robert Bartell wrote:
Yup, you got it right, Duncan --- ! .And you should have seen all the hell
raised around here when I threw out a couple of cases of Pepsi One. Can't
understand the female logic that says ok, but only after we drink up what
we have on hand -- that way it won't be wasted!
Yes. Try them see; let us know what works.
Although current is the danger, voltage pushes the current. The
(unlikely but possible) danger of a transformer shorting is the sudden
jump from 9-12 to 115V, which would multiply the current commensurably.
Batteries couldn't do that; their max.
Consumer reports Dec. 2000 issue, page 63 Recalls:
Taco Bell Home Originals taco shells and taco dinner mix
Contains a bioengieered variet of cornnot approved for use in food for human
consumption.
Products: 2.5 to 2.9 million Taco Bell Home Originals Taco Shells and Taco Bell
Home Originals
Thanks, Ivan. I postulated my inferences as such, which is why I invited
critique. I hope Suzy saw this.
Now, you're saying that tart-tasting pineapple slices, if thoroughly
disrupted, would test as more basic than mild-tasting oatmeal?
--Russ
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:56:30 +1300 Ivan
See http://hometown.aol.com/pganzel/foods.htm for a list of which foods are
acid and which are base ash.
Marshall
russ e rosser wrote:
If the acid were then ingested, what does it do to the pH level of
the body?
As I understand it, the post-digestive state of different foods
determines
itssu...@aol.com wrote:
For over a year, all but two of the clients have presented with the
primary
diagnosis of chronic fatigue and/or fibromyalgia. Additional diagnoses
are
consistently: (1) Arthritis, Neurally mediated hypotension, (3) sleep
apnea,
and (4) frequently depression (after
Robert L. Berger wrote:
Ihvan and all;
I also have found that seeding with CS gives the same T.E. (particle size)
as the parent.
Particle size is very dependent on concentration. When you start with distilled
water, you get the smallest possible particles, and at the end of the run you
are
Marshall,
Actually, I think the yellowjackets know betterthe little tiny sugar ants
that invade my kitchen on periodic assaults won't touch Diet Pepsi - no
interest whatsoever. Kinda makes ya wonder
Jules
--
The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.
In a message dated 11/20/00 10:27:04 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:
I still maintain that there is a BIG difference between how a single atom
ion of
silver, such as you have in compounds, acts as opposed to the multi-atom
clump of
atoms ion that is in CS. The multiclump atoms are self
In a message dated 11/18/2000 22:50:26 Central Standard Time,
dtmil...@midiowa.net writes:
I have a zapper (several, actually).
I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my
chronic, debilitating, sinus condition).
Are you talking about Dr. Clark's zapper used to rid
Well the packets contain sugar with aspartame, so it should still be attractive
to sweet loving ants.. For the yellow jackets you may have to add some sugar to
it, or maybe put aspertame in a non-diet soda. I wouldn't expect carpenter ants
to go after sweets, but for some reason they do take the
rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
Marshall: I can only quote Ivan with regard to the mechanism of silver
absorption into the body. My background is NOT in physiology or related
fields so I can't comment further. If others, versed in the appropriate
fields would like to contribute their thoughts,
In a message dated 11/20/00 1:09:28 PM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:
I have read, and challenged, his postings several times. I don't beleive
he has
ever provided any experimental evidence, or cites for his opinion.
I disagree with them. Once I do some tests I hope to get done in the
Hi Russ,
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 02:13:34 -0600, russ e rosser
russros...@juno.com wrote:
Now that I have a definitive explanation, two related questions pester
me: What happened to all those Rife freq's,
Rife and Clark found differenct frequency ranges that kill parasites.
I don't personally have
Hi MamaBear,
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:58:17 EST, mama2b...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/18/2000 22:50:26 Central Standard Time,
dtmil...@midiowa.net writes:
I have a zapper (several, actually).
I've found it useful (it's the only thing that's cleared up my
chronic, debilitating,
Regarding the Trouble in Iowa Group,
I was diagnosed with Fibro more than 10 years ago. SInce that time I have
researched it and reseached it. There is a diagnostic test for it. Only 3
labs that I am aware of now do the test called the PCR. A radio MD named
Dr. Gabe Mirkin says that he cures
Hi Serita, I do remember the iodine deficiency situation, and would wonder if
maybe we have something similar going on again, with other mineral or dietary
deficiency. Hopefully, we will be able to get to the bottom of it, and find
out what the cause is. Thanks. suzy
Hi Suzy'
Remember the
Hi Ivan,
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:18:17 +1300, Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
wrote:
Roger,
You will find this document from the EPA contradicts the FDA on many
fronts.
The references to studies of the carcinogenity of silver, and the
conclusions reached are about half way through the document.
Hi again, Ivan,
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:18:17 +1300, Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
wrote:
Roger,
You will find this document from the EPA contradicts the FDA on many
fronts.
The references to studies of the carcinogenity of silver, and the
conclusions reached are about half way through the
Hi Serita,
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 05:59:31 -0600 (CST), serit...@webtv.net wrote:
Remember the goiter belts because of a lack of iodine in the soil? It
wasn't solved until iodine was added to salt..Iowa is a corn growing
state and corn really depletes the soil. Especially when not grown
In a message dated 11/20/00 3:39:22 PM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes:
From the report:
Investigators have hypothesized that this toxicity is related to a
silver-induced selenium deficiency that inhibits the synthesis of the
seleno-enzyme glutathione peroxidase. In animals supplemented
Frances,
Soy is not safe. Please read :
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz
Ivan.
- Original Message -
From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; alt-health-rife
alt-health-r...@egroups.com; food 4 thought
food4thou...@topica.com
Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2000
Dean T. Miller wrote:
Hi again, Ivan,
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:18:17 +1300, Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
wrote:
Roger,
You will find this document from the EPA contradicts the FDA on many
fronts.
The references to studies of the carcinogenity of silver, and the
conclusions reached are
You might find this interesting. MS is related to the lack of a
horizontal magnetic field.
http://www.link.lviv.ua/~vasya/MSfactor.html
Marshall
Duncan Crow wrote:
In Japan Dr. Nakagawa, the head of Isuzu Hospital in Tokyo claims
Magnetic Deficiency Syndrome is a contributory cause of
Hi Roger,
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:47:24 EST, rogalt...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 11/20/00 3:39:22 PM EST, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes:
From the report:
Investigators have hypothesized that this toxicity is related to a
silver-induced selenium deficiency that inhibits the synthesis of
That's precisely what I don't assume: A. Einstein U. affirmed that ALL
monocellular pathogens (beginning with HIV) were killed by a few uA of
*LVDC*. Owing to the simplicity and universal availability of LVDC, I
think it's in humanity's best interest to examine the notion.
If your problem is
Hi Ya'all.
Evidentially you are not reading my mail.
Dr Bill Biagioli packed a deep leg ulcer caused by Saph A (SP) that had eaten
about 3/4 of the man's tendon with gauze soaked in 10 ppm CS. In 5 weeks time
the ulcer was healed and the tendon regenerated.
I posted that note because on man
Hi Ole Bob,
It was I that emailed about a leg ulcer and the use of CS. The ulcer is
healing very slowly due to the location, etc, but, it's doing SOMETHING!
I've had the ulcer since early Sept and although the antibiotics and other
remedies rendered it sterile, nothing actually started it down the
Hi all,
Someone had just posted a note questioning what form of advertising they
would use to sell CS .
I received a full color CS brochure (8 1/2 X 11) today in the mail by
HomeCure, no envelope, just folded over with one piece tape at ends. Its 8
pages with a www addy: www.homecure.com.
A
HREF=http://www.alternativemedicine.com/digest/issue38/38042.shtml;Click
here: Reversing Arthritis with the Jaffe-Mellor Technique/A
I came across this interesting read on treating arthritis, fibro., MS, lupus,
etc. I plan on looking into it for my arthritis. Anyone familiar with this
That comment about mineral deficiency is very valid. Much of the continent is
in need of mineral supplementation at ground level, and right on up through the
food chain. When I reply to peoples' concerns I assume too much...like they
have already checked for dietary deficiencies.
Good call
And, get this, Cancer tumours have been shown to shrink considerably, and
even disappear with Selenium supplementation alone at up to 800 mg/day.
Normally we'd take 50-100 mg./day for health.
Several others, vitamin E, and alkaline foods (alkalinizing your system)
have also had profound benefit.
To our resident intellectuals on this site:
You are appreciated.
We love you.
Stay with us!
Keep double checking your work!
ZURICH, Switzerland - The nation recently mourned the death of one of
its brightest shining intellectual stars. Johan Unterwald was
described by college professors as
I too have been part of the problem and in the future will stick a little
more closely to CS. Occassionally, I have to take a day off from the list
and when I return, there can be upwards of 60-70-80 messages to glean
through. I read them all and its time consuming. Not to say that the
Dear Jeannie:
I am beginning to think there are more of us who are affected than who are
not. Iowa is one of the states that got the no kill polio vaccine, and I
cannot find the web site I previously found that information at. I think
that it is probably a mycroplasma or post-polio effect,
Lets go into your post which posits several different things that I can answer
and possibly, with others, point you in a direction to explore for your answers.
- Original Message -
From: itssu...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 4:11 PM
Johannus, Are you inferring that all of these sick and incapacitated people in
Iowa need to be treated by psyciatrists and psycologists?
- Original Message -
From: johannus faustus
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2000 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: CS(OT)
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, russ e rosser wrote:
Yes. Try them see; let us know what works.
Although current is the danger, voltage pushes the current. The
(unlikely but possible) danger of a transformer shorting is the sudden
jump from 9-12 to 115V, which would multiply the current
Some of you may find some seeds of wisdom and some insights into the D.O.D. in
this current article: Robert
Jonathan Dowling knew his research was interesting. He just
didn't realize how interesting until government intelligence
officials tracked him down.
Hello. Would anyone have any helpful thoughts on avoiding the knife and
getting pain relief for a mild hernia brought on by weight-lifting 15 years
ago.
The support belt hardly works for my husband anymore and it looks as though
surgery is a viable option.
Thank you,
Janet
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Dear Friends,
Our 8 year old female sheltie had been getting progressively sicker by the
day the last three months. Breathing problems, shortness of breath,
lethargy, no appetite, etc.
The vet said that according to the x-rays, she appears to have a growth on
the trachea. My father, also a
I wonder if this event helped influence the decision to sell surplus foods,
medicines and vaccines to Cuba and other third world countries. Recycling our
rejects? ==
Robert
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From: Marshall Dudley
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000
Wow Terry -- A good one, much food for thought here. Have to re-read this
again!
Many thanks! Robert Bartell
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From: annho...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: CSReversing Arthritis with the Jaffe-Mellor
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