Re: CSDistilled water...

2005-11-14 Thread cking001
Tony, The fact that you're current limited to 1 ma is saving you a lot of grief. Without that limiting, and using any old water, your current would reach runaway levels within 3 minutes of brewing. As you already know, the proof is in the pudding, and you're doing OK. If I were doing as you're

Re: CSwater oz,miracle soap

2005-11-14 Thread Ode Coyote
I'm referring to marketing. Pyramids [MLM] aren't the definition of evil, just a relatively decent description. Given a choice, I'll go with the sale of product vs the buying and selling of people. Ode At 09:31 AM 11/13/2005 -0500, you wrote: Ode, Are you refering to CS, or another

Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread Ode Coyote
Yes I did build my own house..all by myself at that. An engine hoist and winch did most of the heavy lifting. [I only weigh 150 pounds] I've known people and have been one for years and years, who built and lived in alternative housing of all sorts, used solar, wind and water mostly based on junk

Re: CSSquare or round wires?

2005-11-14 Thread Ode Coyote
It has been done. ode At 08:17 PM 11/13/2005 -0800, you wrote: I often thought there is no reason you cant use a stainless steel bowl or jar and have the bowl be the negative terminal and then you only need one silver electrode in the water. since the silver only comes off the positive

Re: CSRe: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread Ode Coyote
Living smack in the middle of tree farming/logging country, I estimated that I could have bought enough logs, cut and delivered, to build this small house for $3,000. I just couldn't figure out how to handle the tonnage by myself. ode At 10:46 PM 11/13/2005 -0600, you wrote: You may want to

Re: CSCS V diets

2005-11-14 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
Hi Harper, I've enjoyed your wisdom so much! Dumb question: are you a woman or a man? No offense meant - you mention wearing your Campfire girl uniform (I was also a Campfire girl). Then you mentioned wanting to become a man by killing a lion. I have utmost respect for anthropologists and wish

CSOff Topic List -- too quiet!

2005-11-14 Thread M. G. Devour
Volume on the Off Topic List is sporadic. Since it was discussed here yesterday, only a couple people have posted tentative messages wondering where everybody is! So, just post those OT topics to silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com and see who answers! Remember, folks: Civility is still required

CSUsing the Off Topic List...

2005-11-14 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi gang, Jill was asking for instructions for moving topics to the OT list... Right now, with the archives probably down for good, the only way to use the off topic list is to subscribe to it just like you did to this one. You'll receive it in e-mail and you'll send your posts and replies to

CSHey Marshall! Caught up yet??

2005-11-14 Thread M. G. Devour
Just thought I'd point out that Marshall is demonstrating why it is a *really* good idea to hold off sending your replies until you've caught up with all your mail! You may discover that you don't need to send some of them at all. Do that and you'll avoid resurrecting topics that have been

Re: CSCS V diets Mary

2005-11-14 Thread Siriusss
I am a woman but I did come close to being man in several societies because I was a woman doing man things therefore I was treated as a man. You are an anthropologist Mary. A medical anthropologist and so are the people on this list. Many anthropologist have honorary degrees and came into

Re: CS30-35ppm CS

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
I doubt very much you made 300 ppm of CS, CS is not stable beyond 30 or so max. The only way I know to make anything that high a concentration with pure water and silver and it remain clear is to use High Voltage and produce nitric acid, which will then combine with the silver as it is being

Re: CSRE: CS 30-35ppm CS

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Bill Keen wrote: How do they work. They use High Voltage (15,000 volts {15Kv}) of AC. One silver electrode is placed into the water. My unit has High Voltage cable with an alligator clip on the end. I just clip a Trader's Round on and bend it so that the coin is mostly under water. Do

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Connie Howard
When the hood of my car fell across my hand I was surprised to see I still had finger, I immediately soaked a wash cloth in Colodial Silver (20ppm) and DMSO and kept it wet and left it on the the rest of the day... I had no pain and no black and blue. All I'm left with is my little finger does

Re: CSMeats, etc.

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Terry Chamberlin wrote: As a rule of thumb, Reams said, “Do not eat animals that eat dead animals”. We have no trouble with avoiding vultures or jackals, we have more trouble with lobster, crab (both bottom-feeders), and pork. Dr. Reams said to avoid regular tuna (“The pigs of the ocean”),

Re: CS[List Owner] Caution...

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
You fogot to white list silver-list@eskimo.com Marshall Robert Berger wrote: Mike, for some reason your email on pork appeared on my spam list and not on my regulaor email list. HOWS COME?? Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for

Re: CSis alkaline water necessary for making good CS...?

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
White list eskimo.com, that is what I have done to make sure to get all messages from this list. Marshall Robert Berger wrote: Nenah, for some reason your posts appear on my spam list. What are you doing??? Ole Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Re: CSRe: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread Connie Howard
Ode you mention tree farming/logging country; does that mean Washington State? connie On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:06:02 -0500 Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net writes: Living smack in the middle of tree farming/logging country, I estimated that I could have bought enough logs, cut and

Re: CSMeats, etc.

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Bob, the only person that has control over your spam rejector is you. No one is doing anything wrong, you simply need to white list this mail server and the problem will go away. Marshall Robert Berger wrote: V, Barbara, Hurd Cornstoves, your emails come through as spam. What are you doing

Re: CSMeats, etc.

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
How do you do that? I have been using FireFox for about a year now for my browser, but still use Netscape for email because my Firefox does not have an email capability! Is it hidden? Marshall Barbara wrote: Nothing sinister, Ole Bob :) I'm using Mozilla Firefox for my browser, Outlook for

RE: CSFish

2005-11-14 Thread Heather King (LCA)
Silver still kills bacteria. Dead bacteria cannot process fish wastes, allowing the toxins (ammonia, nitrates, nitrites) to build up to dangerous levels. Why would you want that? Outside water is just as dependent on the bacterial synergy as is indoor tank water.

Re: CSMeats, etc.

2005-11-14 Thread Barbara
How do I do what? I'm using Outlook which is Microsoft Explorer. But Mozilla does have email program which is called Thunderbird. I have it set up too but do not use it for different reasons. Is this what you are asking for? Barbara How do you do that? I have been using FireFox for

Re: CSGod's Creation?

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Can we move this over to the off topic list? There we can discuss the writings that the Old Testament of the Bible were taken from, and how this really comes together for those who really want to know the truth. Marshall Bill Keen wrote: Wow! In MY family, the only one as dumb as a vegetable

Re: CSGod's Creation? can we move the house building topic to there too?

2005-11-14 Thread Siriusss
I really want to go into some detailed questions about how to build sustainable housing but on that list so we don't clog you up. BTW I don't get any email from that list, though I am subscribed. possibly reasons. 1. no email going out on that list. 2. I subscribed to a digest and don't

Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread Grace1way
In a message dated 11/14/2005 4:20:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, odecoy...@alltel.net writes: This should go on the off topic list I agree, but don't know how to do that. Can somebody spell it out for the rest of us how to move a subject to the off-topic list. EASY, SIMPLE steps,

CSCS for varicose veins

2005-11-14 Thread genesis4
Dear list members: A message went through the list recently about CS for varicose veins; unfortunately I can't find it. Does anyone have any experience with this? I would love to know the protocol. Thank you for your many suggestions and support. Blessings to all, Carlene -- The Silver

Re: CSPool purifier

2005-11-14 Thread Marshall Dudley
Surgeons use a silver compound for wahing hands? It must be FDA approved. So much for the FDA notices that that silver is not effective in killing germs! Marshall Robert Berger wrote: When we had our pool we changed from chlorine to bacquasil. does the name sound familiar?? It is a silver

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread sol
I'd apply EIS and DMSO. Doesn't really need to be much more than 10% DMSO, but could go higher if tolerated. Several times a day. Could also use a DMSO gel with MSM. I've always been told you ice such an injury the first 24-48 hours at least. Applying heat too soon increases pain and

Re: CSRe: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread sol
I know of a family who built a straw bale house. Never did hear how they liked it. Lot of info online I think. I have heard of bamboo blinds from china with termites in them, but that was 40 years ago at least. Most things might be already fumigated these days, but whether the crates themselves

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Linda Ellis
Well, I don't have a Godzilla - have a Zapper, and strapped that to Tom's ankles all night. Seemed to help a bit. Also used Bil's MP5K on it. I'm thinking about using the Beck TENS unit, also Linda Teri Johnston t...@welshspringers.com wrote: I would use one of V's Godzilla units on

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Linda Ellis
Thanks! I can do the CS and DMSO easily here - also the MSM. As to the ice for 24-48 hours, well, he hit his toe about 4:00 in the afternoon, and we were going out for the evening. So, it wasn't until about 11:00 the next day that we got started on anything. So, I opted to go right for

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Carol Ann
http://www.ourfootdoctor.com/ask_archive_toes.shtml Please use common sense first and foremost. Sometimes a doctors visit is necessary to keep a simple matter from becoming more serious and complicated. If the toe needs to be reset, it needs to be reset to remain functionaly and to avoid

Re: CSDistilled water...

2005-11-14 Thread sol
Argryia? You must be making compounds, so what you are making may not be optimally effective, but it is still effective enough for your purposes. But if you are only making 8 oz at a time, I'd guess you are not drinking quantities of it daily, and are probably not even taking/using any of it

Re: CSRe: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing?? fumigating crates

2005-11-14 Thread Siriusss
Definitely. Disease is spread by contact with other. I am immune to my own germs and the germs of my loved ones and neighborhood. Thanx for the reminder. I tend to think of Chinese shipping crates as my neighborhood but I live in LA now and crates often carry more than parasites and

CSscavenger diet

2005-11-14 Thread Terry Chamberlin
Marshall said, Can you clarify this a bit. So animals that eat live animals are ok, right? What about animals that will eat dead animals, but are not feed dead animals, like pigs that are corn fed? Does it have to do with what they actually eat, or what they are willing to eat if available, that

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe? Swelling Linda

2005-11-14 Thread Siriusss
Swelling causes negative pressure on the wound which in turn tells the body to congregate immune factors to the area. If you take the swelling down you are telling your body it's own immune factors are not necessary in that area. I understand Bromelaine found in pineapple digests the

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Teri Johnston
Hi Linda, I'm not sure how different a zapper is from the Godzilla. I just placed the electrodes one on each side of the broken bone, at the break site. Did 20 minute sessions twice a day for 4 weeks. This was a non union of the radius that had not healed for 8 months. Teri At 11:56 AM

CSRe: Charcot foot broken bones and Zappers

2005-11-14 Thread Siriusss
My husband has Charcot foot (brittle bones) . His foot broke in 40 places. The Rife box at the hospital worked well but it disappeared with my big mouth. I need to buy another it for nothing else them to try it for diabetes. So many miracle toys so little money! Any ideas about Godzilla

Re: CSRe: Charcot foot broken bones and Zappers

2005-11-14 Thread Teri Johnston
Harper, Subscribe to the microelectricity list at this link http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ it will give you lots of info about infections and the Godzilla unit and others. Teri At 12:47 PM 11/14/2005, you wrote: My husband has Charcot foot (brittle bones)

CSRe: Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread laquerencia
Hi Linda, You may know this already but *ideally* your hubby should have gotten off his feet immediately, elevated the injury above the level of his heart, iced it plus apply the cs/dmso. And of couse stay off it as much as possible. When I broke a bone in my foot a few years back, dmso was

CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi, My guess is to remind you not to use the broken whatever? :) Jean *** I can't remember what the purpose of the swelling is Linda sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: I'd apply EIS and DMSO. Doesn't really need to be much more than 10% DMSO, but could go

Re: CSRe: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Nave
How To Build Your Own Log Home For Less Than $15,000 Author Robert L. Williams and his family built a 4,300 square foot house with no previous carpentry experience. He shares his building strategies and techniques, in 36 detailed chapters; you'll learn the essentials of chainsawing and squaring

Re: CSRe: Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Linda Ellis
Well, we know about elevating it, but he did this just as he was getting out of the shower and we were on our way to a party! So, it was about six hours, but he did spend all day Sunday babying the foot. He already has evidence of arthritis, and I've been after him to try some things to see

CSFirefox, was Re: CSMeats, etc.

2005-11-14 Thread sol
Marshall, I just downloaded the email program Mozilla Thunderbird, which seems to be the FireFox compatible email. It is extremely similar to Netscape Mail, but has enough differences that I guess I'll keep on with Netscape.Once I more or less learn to use a program, I have great difficulty

CSSpam etc

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Nave
Perhaps the problem is that the person is sending the e-mail to more than just the silver list (as in reply-all). If someone else's name appears first in the To field it may confuse the spam program. Just a thought... Dan Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com 11/14/2005 9:55:02 AM Bob, the

Re: CSEar Infections and amalgam fillings

2005-11-14 Thread Hurd's Cornstoves
This makes sense (written below) I notice a strange metal taste when I use my zapper. There is one natural-type dentist in our area and I plan to visit soon and see what can be done with my metal fillings. I still believe the lump in my throat and infected tonsil could be related to an old

Re: CSOff Topic List -- too quiet!

2005-11-14 Thread Lea Ann
I posted a message to the OT list at least 2 hours ago and it hasn't shown up in my e-mail folder yet... any ideas? Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:01 AM Subject: CSOff Topic

CSRe: CS bromelain connie

2005-11-14 Thread Siriusss
Not stupid! Use it as you would aspirin for pain and swelling. You can take it internally and crush it and apply it topically like for toothaches and oral surgery. breast cancer surgery or arthritis pain. It works very much aspirin but does not inhibit prostaglandin production.

Re: CSRe: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, We lived in such a house made from bamboo blind while living in the Western Highlands of Papua, New Guinea in the 1950's. Actually we lived in three different such houses. Certainly nothing was fumigated! We did live one year in a frame house. Do not recall that we had any fewer colds and such

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe? Swelling Linda

2005-11-14 Thread Connie Howard
QUESTION: Is the bromelaine being digested or applied locally? Probably a stupid question but better to ask then assume the answer. connie On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:40:03 EST siriu...@aol.com writes: Swelling causes negative pressure on the wound which in turn tells the body to congregate immune

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Nave
Try alternating hot and cold water soaks. Works better than hot soaks alone and speeds up healing. If hot water is causing swelling, you can use alternating cold and warm soaks or cold and room temp alternations. Put ice onto one bucket and hot water in another and alternate foot. Just don't

Re: CSCS for varicose veins

2005-11-14 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
If I remember, all they basically said was apply some CS a few times a day everyday for a few weeks, and it might help. I've been looking into serrapeptase, though (an enzyme), and that looks like it might be more effective for this purpose, although not free like CS. A regimen of 6 grams

CSCS:.to Ode re log house

2005-11-14 Thread Harold MacDonald
About 35 years ago,my bitter half and I built a Log house/cabin in the Cariboo country of B.C. from scratch.To hoist the logs,I rigged what is called a cargo boom on a nearby tree ,Using some pulleys ,wire rope[cables] hooked to the bumper of the car ,my wife would ease the car forward

CSConcentration of CS Rule of Thumb

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Nave
If my math is right, here is a rule of thumb that you can use for approximating the maximum concentration of CS when you make it... The maximum concentration for 1 cup of CS made at 1 milliamp for one hour would be approximately 17ppm. Reasoning: Each Coulomb of electricity will deposit

Re: CSWhat to do about a broken toe?

2005-11-14 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Linda, Likely there are 10,000 treatments, most of them good. Finding the few that you can implement is the hard part. If you had some genuine Dr. Christopher black salve, it would help, I feel sure. When I had the spider bite, I continued to work most days. Due to the swelling

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #725

2005-11-14 Thread Peter Rebaudo
Marshall wrote How do you do that? I have been using FireFox for about a year now for my browser, but still use Netscape for email because my Firefox does not have an email capability! Is it hidden?

Re: CSCS for varicose veins

2005-11-14 Thread Acmeair
Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: If I remember, all they basically said was apply some CS a few times a day everyday for a few weeks, and it might help. I've been looking into serrapeptase, though (an enzyme), and that looks like it might be more effective for this purpose, although not free like CS.

CSRe: CS Maker for Emergencies

2005-11-14 Thread Dan Nave
Using my Rule of Thumb for CS Calculations we know that you can get about a maximum of 17ppm of silver in 1 cup of water at 1ma for 1 hour. That is, 17ppm max in an hour (under these conditions). I assume that there is sufficient conduction to reach saturation at 1ma immediately. 17ppm

RE: CSFlu Immunization, vaccines in general, and Hep C

2005-11-14 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Frank, I believe I got this valuable information from Brooks Bradley who does research all the time. My wife had a chronic UTI that reoccurred about ever 3 to 4 weeks; usually requiring a Dr. visit and expensive antibiotic Rx--Since we read of this addition of Gatorade (2 parts) to CS (1 part),

RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2005 #633

2005-11-14 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Sol, No glitch--the pages are side by side with the numbers at bottom and page 25 is on the right side. Thanks for all the excellent info and ideas you together with the many other Experts share with us seekers--they're much appreciated. Sincerely, ___

Re: CS varicose veins

2005-11-14 Thread Marshalee Hallett
For what is is worth, varicose veins and hemorrhoids, same thing actually, respond to Vitamin E. Try 1200 IU a day to start. Worked for me. Marshalee --- genes...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Dear list members: A message went through the list recently about CS for varicose veins; unfortunately I

Re: CSRe: CS Maker for Emergencies

2005-11-14 Thread Grace1way
Hi guys: I don't understand any of this technical stuff, but have been making CS for years with my home-made kit--three 9-V batteries snapped together, alligator clips connecting the free leads of the batteries to silver wires, and putting the wires in a glass measuring jar of tap water.

Re: CSCS:.to Ode re log house

2005-11-14 Thread Lea Ann
Hi Harold, Just curious, was this a typo or a funny? If it wasn't meant to be a funny it could be used that way! :-) Blessings, Lea Ann - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: CSCS:.to Ode re

CSnew member

2005-11-14 Thread Chad
Hi, I am a new member and I'm looking for information about colloidal silver. In the long run its probably cheaper to make it yourself correct? My g/f got anxious/impatient and bought a 16oz. bottle of it at 24ppm. Is it safe for me to dilute it down w/ distilled water into another jar half

CShep vaccines to max

2005-11-14 Thread Betsy Coffey
I was at a support group for people with auto immune disease. WE had a guest speaker that was a doctor. He shared some interesting information regarding hep vaccines. HE said that there are cases where it has triggered flares in people with lupus like illnesses.He also said that adolescents that

Re: CSCS for varicose veins

2005-11-14 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
Thanks for the mention of proline. I'll have to look at it again. -Ken Bagwell Acmeair res00...@gte.net wrote: Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: If I remember, all they basically said was apply some CS a few times a day everyday for a few weeks, and it might help. I've been looking into

Re: CSRe: CS bromelain connie

2005-11-14 Thread Ken Nancy Bagwell
2 grams a day is great, but bromelain is kind of expensive at 2 grams a day. Then, what if there are other supplements you would want to take in addition to bromelain? Costs gets up there. -Ken Bagwell --- siriu...@aol.com wrote: Not stupid! Use it as you would aspirin for pain and

Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable housing??

2005-11-14 Thread T J Garland
I would also investigate Radiant Barrier by Innovative Insulation in Texas, and Geobond in Kansas City. - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 12:30 AM Subject: Re: CSOde? Anyone? Ecologically sustainable

Re: CSRe: CS Maker for Emergencies

2005-11-14 Thread T J Garland
I'm first--- DON'T DO IT ANYMORE!! God knows what you are making!!! - Original Message - From: grace1...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:11 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: CS Maker for Emergencies Hi guys: I don't understand any of this

Re: CShep vaccines to max

2005-11-14 Thread T J Garland
More evidence to NEVER let them stick a needle in you. - Original Message - From: Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: CShep vaccines to max I was at a support group for people with auto immune disease. WE had

CSRE: CS hep vaccines to max

2005-11-14 Thread Sam L
Hi Betsy. If you go to the GlaxoSmithKline website and look at the hep b vaccine for children, they are still using thimerosal also know as mercury in there vaccines. When is this madness going to end??? A link to their web site. http://www.gsk.com/products/vaccines.jsp Sam L. --- On Mon

Re: CShep vaccines to max

2005-11-14 Thread Barbara
Yes! The same is true for your pets. They are suffering from all those vaccines too. Barbara - Original Message - From: T J Garland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:47 PM Subject: Re: CShep vaccines to max More evidence to NEVER let

CSRe: HIV

2005-11-14 Thread andy andraschko
Hi to all, My name is Andy Andraschko and I am a new member (silent so far) of this group, I am listening and learning. Very interesting comments and ideas. I am using and producing it for the best part of 2 years now and have never been sick since (usually twice a year colds and flu). I also make

CSCayenne pepper

2005-11-14 Thread oldgl...@bigcountry.net
Hi Bil, I once had a Rat Terrier who had been run over, maybe by the tractor (he had a great fear of a cloud and would seek me out), or maybe by someone driving down the road. Anyway, I found him sitting by the back door one night with such an odd expression that I bent over to pet him. When I

CSRe: HIV

2005-11-14 Thread andy andraschko
Hi to all, My name is Andy Andraschko and I am a new member (silent so far) of this group, I am listening and learning. Very interesting comments and ideas. I am using and producing it for the best part of 2 years now and have never been sick since (usually twice a year colds and flu). I also make