Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Jobst Schmalenbach" Actually, from what I see you posted in both text AND html . At the risk of adding to this thread, but perhaps adding something of value, you can decode some of Outlook's more cryptic emissions using the 'tnef' program. TNEF is an MS plot to piss

email ettiquite (was Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!)

2001-02-01 Thread Ian Tester
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Terry Collins wrote: Michael wrote: A blank email? haha No - it said two things 1 - he is one of those misguided {:-) people who likes the idea of Slug meetings on Monday (subject line). 2 - he is one of the forsaken {:-) who posts in html. or three:

[OT] Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Stephen Robert Norris
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 06:26:50PM -0800, Mehmet Ozdemir wrote: Monday (or earlier in the week) also makes it extremely easy to book restaurants (they tend to fall over themselves if they can get more than 10 people in on Monday night) but the after-SLUG bar scene is a lot tamer.

RE: [SLUG] Need help with XSession Colors

2001-02-01 Thread Jill Rowling
Yes, but if you diff the two rgb.txt are they the same? -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Elec. Eng. Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!

2001-02-01 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 09:52:16AM +1100, Peter G. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Michael wrote: [snip] Yuk ! For this, my most sincere apologies to all concerned. I had not realised that "option" had not been turned off in this so-called mail tool. In fact, as I check now, it still

Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Mehmet Ozdemir
Monday (or earlier in the week) also makes it extremely easy to book restaurants (they tend to fall over themselves if they can get more than 10 people in on Monday night) but the after-SLUG bar scene is a lot tamer. Please not a tuesday as I'll have to tape The Bill, and it's just not the

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Rick Welykochy
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Norman Widders wrote: oh would you now ? since when did we lose the right to choose? when the desktop was monopolised back in 1991 -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread David
definitely like the idea of different foci. I would love to have a meeting for like minded people who are not rank beginners, but aren't in the guru class either. On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Ken Yap wrote: |If you feel strongly about any particular day please |let us know either via the mailing

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Norman Widders
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: oh would you now ? since when did we lose the right to choose? Anyway, anyone need a job? *grin* Id prefer that people be MS employees rather than work-for-the-dole employee's Dean "Money is money" Hamstead Ken Yap wrote: |- Forwarded

Re: [SLUG] ** CRITICAL **: Couldn't open playlist font

2001-02-01 Thread Arunava Sen
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: Getting this error in XMMS: Have you tried changing the playlist font in Preferences - options tab to other fonts? Arunava -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] Matrox G450 and matroxfb

2001-02-01 Thread John Ferlito
Anyone using this following combination? X 4 with matrox dirvers from matrox site matroxfb and a MAtrox G450 Current problem is that everything looks fine in console. Then I switch to X and that works fine but when I switch back instead of a normal blinking cursor I've got a big blinking

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Ken Yap
I think this satire came at just the right moment. http://satirewire.com/news/0101/linux_quit.shtml -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Dean Hamstead
Holly said "I have alot of respect for" not "*we* have" i also dont think we should confuse the calibre of software with the calibre of its programmers. Clearly MS doesnt =) Marketing is all about making yourself look good, and one of the easiest ways is to make others look bad. Like in politics

Re: [SLUG] Re: [ANN] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Craige McWhirter
It's OK, I just let it slide ;) I will hit you up for an after SLUG beer though ;) On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:42:01 Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Jeff Waugh" Dudes! This is like a one-time event only! Clubie bat "didn't read all my mail" email posted earlier. - Jeff -- [EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
How does this marry with: "And the recent security problems with Linux, coupled with the lack of key enterprise elements in the new kernel, really call into question whether Linux should be used at all," Miller [Microsoft's group product manager for competitive strategies] added. from

Re: [SLUG] Re: [ANN] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Jeff Waugh" Dudes! This is like a one-time event only! Clubie bat "didn't read all my mail" email posted earlier. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- The Unix Way: Everything is a file.

Re: [SLUG] notebook trackball

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Joshua Burvill" Thanks Ken and Jeff, your suggestions proved correct, although I did have some fun trying to figure out why my changes to /etc/X11/XF86Config were not having any effect, until I realised that this was caused by having stored a copy of that file in /root, which

Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Anand Kumria" If you feel strongly about any particular day please let us know either via the mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Erp. I should have read all my email before replying to the unthreaded thread... Keep it Friday. Mondays suck for more people than

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Ken Yap
|- Forwarded message from Holly Lindsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "If we can't beat them, try to get them to join us?" Hahaha, we won. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] gdm Configuration

2001-02-01 Thread Dennis Gray
I ran into a problem with GDM on my office Linux server yesterday and ended up reinstalling it. I am now getting a problem when I try to connect with X-Win32. I can see the machine in the list of xdmcp hosts but after I select this machine, the RedHat logo starts to display then the session

[SLUG] Meeting Dates

2001-02-01 Thread Dennis Gray
I put my hand up for Monday meetings. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Crossfire
Jeff Waugh was once rumoured to have said: So, you get some weirdarse email when you're on a LUG committee... (Boring stuff snipped at the end, including the "Microsoft is an equal opportunity employer" line. Obviously we're now part of this equality.) - Jeff - Forwarded message

[SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
So, you get some weirdarse email when you're on a LUG committee... (Boring stuff snipped at the end, including the "Microsoft is an equal opportunity employer" line. Obviously we're now part of this equality.) - Jeff - Forwarded message from Holly Lindsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date:

Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!

2001-02-01 Thread Peter G. Martin
Michael wrote: A blank email? haha No - it said two things 1 - he is one of those misguided {:-) people who likes the idea of Slug meetings on Monday (subject line). Correct. No apology.And BTW, it was in response to an invitation from Anand. I thought I'd keep it brief.

Re: [SLUG] Re: [ANN] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Craige McWhirter
Fridays are good for the social aspect but on the other hand I often don't make the meetings on Friday as there are just too many pubs between Circular Quay and UTS. I guess it comes down to how many people aren't making Fridays compared to how many more/less would make other weeknights. --

Re: [SLUG] bind problems??

2001-02-01 Thread Marty
31-Jan-2001 11:55:19.972 named shutting down 31-Jan-2001 11:55:19.972 USAGE 980902519 980901597 CPU=0.69u/0.32s CHILDCPU=0u/0s 31-Jan-2001 11:55:19.972 NSTATS 980902519 980901597 A=162 SOA=80 PTR=977 MX=8 ANY=3 31-Jan-2001 11:55:19.972 XSTATS 980902519 980901597 RR=471 RNXD=51 RFwdR=219

Re: [SLUG] Home network question - /etc/hosts not understood

2001-02-01 Thread luke
On 29 Jan, chesty wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:11:47PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At home we have 2 machines, on a local ethernet network. Both are running Red Hat 6.2, and both have very similar config files (with the appropriate substitutions for machine names and static IP

Re: [SLUG] Re: [ANN] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Marty
I like Fridays so I don't have to think about getting up for work the next morning. i had to skip dinner at the jan meeting in order to get home so i would get my daily requirement of beauty sleep... :) it would be nice to be able to hang around, go to dinner, pub etc.etc. without the hassle

Re: [SLUG] Reposting, stillneedhelpwiththisproblem.

2001-02-01 Thread William Shui
ok, I"ll give it a try. On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 01:21:59AM +1100, Anand Kumria wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 05:16:09AM +1100, Alex Salmon wrote: hi I dont really know the problem here but i may be able to put u on track. I once built me self a linux distro from scratch i had

RE: [SLUG] ICMP redirects.

2001-02-01 Thread Howard Lowndes
I agree that ping in rh7.0 is more verbose. It shows the times in msec or in usec where relevant. It also now shows min/avg/max/mdev -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com "...well, it worked before _you_ touched

Re: [SLUG] Sun Hardware from ComputerBank.

2001-02-01 Thread Dean Hamstead
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/OpenBSD/260/0/4662866/ or http://lists.openresources.com/OpenBSD/sparc/msg00561.html multiple mail archives =) looking at it now some stuff is pretty vague. Oh well, having done about 5 network installs i may be of some help. boot.net gets the machine going

Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Michael wrote: A blank email? haha No - it said two things 1 - he is one of those misguided {:-) people who likes the idea of Slug meetings on Monday (subject line). 2 - he is one of the forsaken {:-) who posts in html. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} Ph(02) 4627 2186 Fax(02) 4628

RE: [SLUG] ICMP redirects.

2001-02-01 Thread Visser, Martin (SNO)
ICMP Redirects are a normal occurence when you have a single default gateway/router configured and there are other accessible routers. If the default router believes you should you use a more direct next hop router, it will let you know. You want to dump out your route table ("netstat -r") and

Re: [SLUG] Sun Hardware from ComputerBank.

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Dean Hamstead wrote: Just a suggestion. Network install the lot. That is a distinct possibility as they all have NICs built in. FGI - they also have SCSI built in as well. Debian supports sparc doesnt it =) I hear suse does. So I hear Is anyone interested in my "steps to installing a

Re: [SLUG] Sun Hardware from ComputerBank.

2001-02-01 Thread Dean Hamstead
Just a suggestion. Network install the lot. Will make your lives a lot easier. Just grab a linux xmachine (i386 even) and set up rarp, bootparams nfs etc. plug the sparcs in and let them install. No disks (discs) no fuss. That is, if they all have nics. Debian supports sparc doesnt it =) I hear

Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!

2001-02-01 Thread Michael
A blank email? haha - Original Message - From: "Peter G. Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2001 8:28 Subject: [SLUG] Yea Mondays! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Timing a program

2001-02-01 Thread Jason Rennie
Jason Rennie was once rumoured to have said: Is there a simple utility to find the execution time of a program ? yes. surprisingly enough its called 'time'. Actaully i found this about half an hour later, it is a bit hidden being in section n of the manual. I had forgotton about apropos

Re: [SLUG] Home network question - /etc/hosts not understood

2001-02-01 Thread chesty
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 09:27:49AM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the strace showed that the slow host *does* read the file /etc/host.conf first - it just doesn't seem to find the information it wants there! (Since the NIS stuff starts, afterwards.) If you aren't using nis, you may as

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Jason
Jeff Waugh wrote: So, you get some weirdarse email when you're on a LUG committee... (Boring stuff snipped at the end, including the "Microsoft is an equal opportunity employer" line. Obviously we're now part of this equality.) I got the exact same email with slight variations on numerous

Re: [SLUG] Need help with XSession Colors

2001-02-01 Thread Sonam Chauhan
Jill Rowling wrote: Yes, but if you diff the two rgb.txt are they the same? Yes, I did. They just differ in whitespace. Regards, Sonam -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] Problem with RedHat Network update agent

2001-02-01 Thread Jin Ting Liew
Hi, I've just installed Redhat 7 on my modest home server and cannot get the Redhat update agent to work properly. It downloads the list of available packages and does some sorting, but then stops at exactly 62% when removing packages marked for skipping from the list. All I do is start up

[SLUG] Too much security!!

2001-02-01 Thread Jin Ting Liew
After reading an article on Linux security some time ago, I put some extra security measures on my server (the same one that has the problem with Redhad network update agent). This included protecting /etc/lilo.conf. I am not sure what i did to it, but even as root or in single user mode i

Re: [SLUG] ICMP redirects.

2001-02-01 Thread chesty
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 07:14:54PM +1100, Rodos wrote: When I do a ping it shows a response of "Redirect Host(New nexthop:" and then the address of the machine which I am usually trying to ping. If you're on hosta and you're trying to ping hostb, and you get a message saying Redirect

[SLUG] Driver for Ensoniq Maestro 3i PCI audio drive

2001-02-01 Thread Jin Ting Liew
me again... does anyone know where I can find a driver for the laptop sound card mentioned in the subject? I use Redhat 7 - it's sndconfig program can detect the soundcard, but then tells me that it is not supported. Ensoniq has been taken over by Creative, but neither make Linux drivers

Re: [SLUG] You get the weirdest email when you...

2001-02-01 Thread Norman Widders
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Jason wrote: howdy, as a direct competitor, i feel that the less publicity given to their spam, the better, i've seen that ridiculous posting 4 times today and i wonder how many other poor folks have had it injected/forwarded into their mailboxes :( /thread /torqumada

RE: [SLUG] upgrade your bind8 to 8.2.3 at least

2001-02-01 Thread avant
Thats it. ipchains -A input -p tcp -j DENY -s ! 192.168.0.0/16 --destination-port 53 Im sick and tired of all these recent issues with bind8. /avant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Yap Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2001 10:22 AM To:

[SLUG] Doco for RH update - where?

2001-02-01 Thread Howard Lowndes
Where does one find the doco for Redhat's update procedures. I have found the up2date program but there is no man page or info page. I can get up2date to run but it downloads a load of .hdr files and I need to know what these are and how to work them. All help appreciated. -- Howard.

Re: [SLUG] upgrade your bind8 to 8.2.3 at least

2001-02-01 Thread John Ferlito
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 09:17:00PM +1100, avant wrote: Thats it. ipchains -A input -p tcp -j DENY -s ! 192.168.0.0/16 --destination-port 53 Im sick and tired of all these recent issues with bind8. I perfer named.conf: options { listen-on {192.168.0.1;};}; works even if your firewall is

[SLUG] what version

2001-02-01 Thread Ben Donohue
hi slugs, what's the command to find out what version of linux you are running. i've got some old redhat boxes fired up and want to see what they've got. thanks ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

[SLUG] RedHat 6.2 question regarding WHO command..

2001-02-01 Thread andrewtr
Guys, Hope I'm not wasting your time, but I just can't seem to get the WHO command working properly. I suspect that it's got to do with PPP. I can only see users who login with a unix shell (ie ppp users don't appear). My work around until now has been last|grep ogg which is OK, but I

Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra ADSL and recurrent recurrent lost connections.

2001-02-01 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 11:24:45PM +1100, Angus Lees uttered: \begin{Richard Piper} It's been hopeless for the last few days, up and down all the time, terrible speed and latency. I would have to agree. i think its time we all had a chat with our friendly ombudsman.. You _can't_

[SLUG] Segmentation Fault

2001-02-01 Thread George Ferizis
Hi all, I have a small problem with my machine. Executing "ps afx" will cause a segmentation fault. This will only occur if the machine is on for a while. It lead me to believe initially that ps cannot deal with how many processes it running, but after thinking for more then 10 seconds I

[SLUG] file listing problem

2001-02-01 Thread Sonam Chauhan
Hello Sluggers: Here's a frustrating one Sluggers... A system monitoring program periodically needs to generate a list of filename with each files timestamps prepended to it: sample output 15:15,151500.data 15:46,154501.data 16:45,154501.data 16:55,061500.data ...

Re: [SLUG] what version

2001-02-01 Thread Tom Massey
Ben Donohue wrote: hi slugs, what's the command to find out what version of linux you are running. i've got some old redhat boxes fired up and want to see what they've got. Try 'cat /proc/version' - I think that should work. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] Re: Telstra ADSL and recurrent recurrent lost connections.

2001-02-01 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 10:53:31PM +1100, Howard Lowndes uttered: I think you will find that that only applies if both parties are members of TIO Ltd, but otherwise, why not? AAAHHH. That must be it. We can't talk to ombudsman about Telstra. It's all making sense now. :-/ -- Howard.

Re: email ettiquite (was Re: [SLUG] Yea Mondays!)

2001-02-01 Thread Jon Biddell
Is there some sort of "How to not look stupid on the internet with MS OutLook" FAQ somewhere? Could help ALOT of people ;) There is only one way - use it !! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] what version

2001-02-01 Thread Crossfire
Ben Donohue was once rumoured to have said: hi slugs, what's the command to find out what version of linux you are running. i've got some old redhat boxes fired up and want to see what they've got. To get kernel revision information, use uname -a. If you're runnign RedHat, your redhat

[SLUG] routing problem

2001-02-01 Thread David Kempe
Hey sluggers, I have a strange routing problem atm and am wanting a few pointers. Lets say the machine in question has 5 NICs connected to 5 subnets. Also a modem. Thats 6 interfaces in total. Now everything seems normal in ifconfig and route. All the routes are there, the subnet masks are normal

Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Heracles
Anand Kumria wrote: If you feel strongly about any particular day please let us know either via the mailing list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday and Saturday nights are my only nights within 100km of Sydney. Earlier in the week would prevent me from attending at all. Stay

RE: [SLUG] meetings

2001-02-01 Thread Adrian
Friday meetings are good for me; can't come Mondays Personally, weekend meeting are better for me as I work week nights Regards Adrian - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Phone: +61 (0)4 0720 8910 Facsimile: +61 (0)4 0720

[SLUG] Introductory Linux course

2001-02-01 Thread Geoffrey Robertson
If any new sluggers would like to enrol in a TAFE Linux course there are a few places left in some afternoon classes. Details: http://slug.org.au/tafe2000.shtml enroling _now_ geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread David
I have an interest in intermediate workshops in the inner city. I can see some value in getting together to work through various configuration problems or such like on maybe a monthly or fortnightly basis. I plugged this idea once before, but at the time it fell over. Anyone interested I can

[SLUG] meetings

2001-02-01 Thread Geoffrey Robertson
Friday meetings are good for me; carn't come Mondays geoffrey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug

Re: [SLUG] Driver for Ensoniq Maestro 3i PCI audio drive

2001-02-01 Thread Dean Hamstead
www.alsa-project.org if its supported, alsa will likely cover it (dont build a box without it) Dean Jin Ting Liew wrote: me again... does anyone know where I can find a driver for the laptop sound card mentioned in the subject? I use Redhat 7 - it's sndconfig program can detect the

[SLUG] It helps if people give valid email adresses: Sparc HW -[Fwd: Returnedmail: Host unknown (Name server: gateway.localnet: host not found)]

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Sorry folks, but they are following up on a message off the Slug list and I figure someone else would have asked. To: Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrator wrote: $2753 Sparc 10 (each w/ 20" monitor) $50 6 full-height external disk

Re: [SLUG] routing problem

2001-02-01 Thread David Kempe
Actually now i dig into it, that address space is owned by SUN. That may be the cause of the problem then hrmmm would that be right? dave@sumo:~$ whois 192.9.0.0 Sun Microsystems, Inc (NETBLK-SUN) Mail Stop UNWK14-301 901 San Antonio Road Palo Alto, CA 94303 US Netname: SMI-NETS

Re: [SLUG] Next meeting date?

2001-02-01 Thread Ken Yap
And to be brief - having more activities depends on people being willing to take on the role of organising and running these activities, and assisting others if you can not take a major roll. In the case of a SIG meeting it shouldn't take more than one responsible person present to facilitate.

[SLUG] I am evil

2001-02-01 Thread Michael (Micksa) Slade
http://knobbits.org/gtk-random-themes.patch http://knobbits.org/gtk-patch.png Mick. -- ---===---===---===---===-+-===---===---===---===---===---===---===---== Michael (Micksa) Slade | "I don't want you playing with something [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that has such bizarre hair" - Marge

Re: [SLUG] what version

2001-02-01 Thread Ben Donohue
hi slugs and thanks all, yes i was looking for just the redhat version... however the wonderful thing about this list is that now i've learnt how to find the kernel version as well, which i'd probably be looking for soon anyway. ben Tom Massey wrote: Steve Kowalik wrote: On Thu, Feb 01,

RE: [SLUG] meetings

2001-02-01 Thread Jan Schmidt
Mondays are OK, Fridays are better, but I wouldn't come along to more than about 2 slug meetings a year on a saturday... Saturday's are too busy with other things to tie them up with a regular meeting. J. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] file listing problem

2001-02-01 Thread Herbert Xu
Sonam Chauhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using find in the following manner seemed to work beautifully: find dir -name pattern -printf "%AH:%AM,%f\n" However, the find -format specification outputs data based on file *access* time instead of file *creation* times. Firstly there is no

[SLUG] SLUG Stuff. [Was: Next meeting date?]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Terry Collins" Slug is going to need more activities of a wider nature to keep people interested. And to be brief - having more activities depends on people being willing to take on the role of organising and running these activities, and assisting others if you can not take a

SLUG Activities [Was: Re: [SLUG] SLUG Stuff. [Was: Next meeting date?]]

2001-02-01 Thread Craige McWhirter
A Debian SIG would be quite useful. There's so much to the Debian world and mostly stuff that would only interest the enthusiasts. The odd "Debian brainstorming session" seperate from the main SLUG meeting would go a long, long way IMHO. If there's interest, I'd be more than happy to be the

[SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Alister Waller
How about a Newbies/Basic training/help/install day?? Things like security, routing, networking, installations, blah blah blah Could maybe wrap it around a BBQ and make it nice and informal. We have a room here at work (west ryde, close to train), classroom size, air-conditioned that

[SLUG] Apache and Virtual Servers

2001-02-01 Thread Simon Bryan
Hi, I need some help with the concept of virtual servers using Apache. I have SuSE set up using Apache, this worked fine with the doc root set to /usr/local/apache/htdocs I wanted to (and succeeded) setup AUC on this system as well, it likes to default the doc root to /home/httpd. So I setup a

Re: [SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Crossfire
Alister Waller was once rumoured to have said: How about a Newbies/Basic training/help/install day?? Things like security, routing, networking, installations, blah blah blah On a similar note, once I've got netfilter worked out, I'd happily run a weekend 'introduction to firewalling' -

[SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Craige McWhirter" A Debian SIG would be quite useful. There's so much to the Debian world and mostly stuff that would only interest the enthusiasts. The odd "Debian brainstorming session" seperate from the main SLUG meeting would go a long, long way IMHO. We've discussed SIGs a

RE: [SLUG] what version

2001-02-01 Thread Jill Rowling
Also, uname -a gives interesting info with various distros and unices. - Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Craige McWhirter
I think splitting the list is a bad idea, so perhaps SIG was the wrong choice of words. I was thinking that it would be more like a regular "Debian Fest" style meeting open to all SLUGgers who wanted to rabbit on about Debian or just rub shoulders with like interested people in a more social

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Ken Yap
|We've discussed SIGs a few times now, and each time came to the conclusion |that 'splitting' SLUG would lead to bad things. By SLUG you mean the mailing list? |Dude! Rock out! :) Thanks heaps for offering - perhaps we should have a |little Debian fest (read: Come over and we'll show you wtf

Re: [SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Marty
On a similar note, once I've got netfilter worked out, I'd happily run a weekend 'introduction to firewalling' - I just haven't had the time lately to look at netfilter. i had a read of rusty's docs on it the other night (http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org/unreliable-guides/) and he is very

Re: [SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Crossfire
Marty was once rumoured to have said: On a similar note, once I've got netfilter worked out, I'd happily run a weekend 'introduction to firewalling' - I just haven't had the time lately to look at netfilter. i had a read of rusty's docs on it the other night

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Ken Yap" By SLUG you mean the mailing list? Both SLUG and the mailing list - It has come up a few times in conversations about other groups, so I always keep it in mind. I don't think it's a dangerous idea at all to have a SIG. People will gravitate to fora that interest them so

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Marty
We've discussed SIGs a few times now, and each time came to the conclusion that 'splitting' SLUG would lead to bad things. why? random get togethers specialising on a particular topic would be great... it is only if it becomes regular and, say, slug-debian people stop coming to slug that you

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Craige McWhirter" A Debian SIG would be quite useful. There's so much to the Debian world and mostly stuff that would only interest the enthusiasts. The odd "Debian brainstorming session" seperate from the main SLUG meeting would go a long, long way IMHO.

Re: [SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Marty
Migrating like that is a bit insane IMO [you wouldn't want to do a straight 1 to 1 migration, otherwise you don't gain any of netfilter's real benefits] - and that really wouldn't be the point of me giving such a talk - there is theory behind all this madness, as well as some general

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Craige McWhirter wrote: I think splitting the list is a bad idea, so perhaps SIG was the wrong choice of words. I was thinking that it would be more like a regular "Debian Fest" style meeting open to all SLUGgers who wanted to rabbit on about Debian or just rub shoulders with like

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Terry Collins" What a load of f%king crap. Which, funnily enough, was somewhat based on comments you made a while ago. There is already one, by invitation only, list of ex-sluggers operating because these people were cheesed off with the noise on the Slug list. That disappoints

Re: [SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Crossfire
Marty was once rumoured to have said: your right though. you definately need to adjust the way you approach filtering when migrating from ipchains - netfilter. BTW: for those that care, the most important point is the way the chains work. my understanding of the situation is thus: Yes.

Re: [SLUG] Meeting Suggestion.

2001-02-01 Thread Marty
Uh, no. [Not sure about the diagram, but you've missed the important change]. i think that the way the chains work is an important change... but stateful filtering is a pretty big step (pity that is playing catch up with IP filter and most commercial firewalls) That skript kiddie can no

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Ken Yap" |What is dangerous here is that A* offers to run a SIG anf B* wants to |turn it into a Fest. Well said Terry. Is it human nature to want to complicate things? In any case, if A has made an offer, it should be accepted on those terms, and nobody but A should try to bid

RE: [SLUG] Segmentation Fault

2001-02-01 Thread Jill Rowling
Hehe (sorry) it reminds me of one of our PCs at home which had a memory fault whenever it got hot. 1: If I typed a command that was intrinsic to the shell, fine. 2: If I typed a command that had to go to disk, find the program and load it into memory, it segfaulted. If I repeated 2: it didn't

Re: [SLUG] Driver for Ensoniq Maestro 3i PCI audio drive

2001-02-01 Thread Mehmet Ozdemir
www.alsa-project.org if its supported, alsa will likely cover it (dont build a box without it) I just recently installed the lastest alsa drivers on a dell latitude (meastro3 equipped) with great success, although the sound is a little scratchy. Regards Mehmet Ozdemir This message

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Ken Yap" |What is dangerous here is that A* offers to run a SIG and B* wants to |turn it into a Fest. Well said Terry. Is it human nature to want to complicate things? In any case, if A has made an offer, it should be accepted on those terms, and

[SLUG] Re: Cannot get a proggy to run

2001-02-01 Thread Angus Lees
\begin{Howard Lowndes} [root@keep bin]# /usr/local/bin/streamserver bash: /usr/local/bin/streamserver: No such file or directory [root@keep bin]# ldd /usr/local/bin/streamserver /usr/bin/ldd: /usr/local/bin/streamserver: No such file or directory [root@keep bin]# file

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread David
New lists are, IMNVHO, a bad idea. Physical SIG's are a good idea. Cross fertilisation will stop if SLUG splits up, but dedicated RH users can happily go watch debian users hands-on if the mood takes them, etc. Personally, I will happily delete lots of stuff I'm not interested in for the sake

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="David" Personally, I will happily delete lots of stuff I'm not interested in for the sake of not missing something I need, but didn't know about. Sounds like everyone is happy with physical SIG stuff, but as per usual, not lists. Your above argument has to be one of the happier

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Terry Collins" What a load of f%king crap. Which, funnily enough, was somewhat based on comments you made a while ago. Yep, if you are going to have one meeting, then have one list. However, if someone wants to start a SIG, then let the sig have it's own

[SLUG] Pascal, anyone?

2001-02-01 Thread DaZZa
This one's for the programming guru's. I have a piece of source code. It's written in Pascal - Delphi, to be precise. I've managed to find and install FPC {Free Pascal Compiller}, unpack the source {RAR archive - yuck!}, and view the nice source files BUT I can't figure out how to compile the

Re: [SLUG] MetaSLUG [Was: SLUG Activities]

2001-02-01 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who="Terry Collins" Let's discuss what we can *do*, not how we can or can't talk about it. If the list continues talking about Craig's offer. it will just be picking the entrails until nothing is left. Generally, Terry. Less semantics, more stuff. So - a CC to Slug committee to

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